Problem With PC gamings perception

Here are some counter-arguments against PC gaming:

- enthusiast PC gaming is expensive

- work with drivers, updates, graphics options, ect.

- misses out on certain multi-plats

- digital downloads offer no advantages over retail shipping

- too much RTS and MMO games

- elitist community

- PC games tend to be boring so luckily there are some console portsand FPS games on it :P

nameless12345

-Nobody is forcing you to spend thousands on a l33t PC with a 1.21 gigawatt flux compacitor. That's barely a counter arguement.....

-That is also barely a counter arguement. Updating your graphics drivers once a month is not hard. You simply download and install, it take's no more then 10 minutes. I know it's so painfully long, frequent, and hard isn't it?*Sarcasm*

-Those are the most popular genre's on PC and millions play them so I don't see what's the problem. PC is a different audience.

-That's a bad thing if you're an avid PC gamer.

That doesn't really apply to PC since you don't see Nvidia and AMD going around saying here's $50 million make mean epic high end game only for PC so I can sell more GPUs. Like you see for consoles and their first party exclusives which make most of their exclusives. If a game can't be played on any other platform then it's an exclusive. Controller support is pratically in every multiplat available for the PC and even some PC exclusives of course you're not going to see gamepad support for something like Shogun 2 Total war or ArmA 2, but you can see it for others I can name a lot off the back of my head that have gamepad support. The average PC gamer plays at 1080p anyway. I don't see many PC gamers going woot I have 1600p monitor (those are expensive as hell) and those types are for the mega enthusiast. I don't really see the big deal with drivers sinc it's easy as heck to do and barely consumes a lot of time. Upgrading for PC hardware is required depending on what settings you want. You can still play games with older hardware with reasonable settings but don't be an idiot and think your 9800Gt will do BF3 on ultra with 1080p and maintain a high fps.

NoodleFighter

When something is exclusive, you CAN'T PORT IT because you have no legal right to.

If you can port it, but just never bothered to because sales don't justify it, to me that's not exclusive.

I always dread upgrading drivers, because sometimes a program will stop working and it can be a PITA.

Likewise hardware upgrades, you never know, sometimes pieces of hardware just don't operate well together.

WoW used to crash for me, because the mobo didn't like the graphics card.

Almost all games on 360 are upscaled to 1080.

When I first bought my 360, I was actually surprised that games could look that good on such cheap, compact hardware.

As a technologist I don't really differentiate between PC and console.

They're all just machines to me.

I prefer to game on consoles because they're "cute" and fun to use.

Don't really care if some of the graphics effects aren't top notch, they still look and run great for me.

And I'm one of the few people who actually LIKES the concept of motion gaming, I'm planning on setting up a place for Kinect in my home.

[QUOTE="NoodleFighter"]

That doesn't really apply to PC since you don't see Nvidia and AMD going around saying here's $50 million make mean epic high end game only for PC so I can sell more GPUs. Like you see for consoles and their first party exclusives which make most of their exclusives. If a game can't be played on any other platform then it's an exclusive. Controller support is pratically in every multiplat available for the PC and even some PC exclusives of course you're not going to see gamepad support for something like Shogun 2 Total war or ArmA 2, but you can see it for others I can name a lot off the back of my head that have gamepad support. The average PC gamer plays at 1080p anyway. I don't see many PC gamers going woot I have 1600p monitor (those are expensive as hell) and those types are for the mega enthusiast. I don't really see the big deal with drivers sinc it's easy as heck to do and barely consumes a lot of time. Upgrading for PC hardware is required depending on what settings you want. You can still play games with older hardware with reasonable settings but don't be an idiot and think your 9800Gt will do BF3 on ultra with 1080p and maintain a high fps.

ZombieKiller7

When something is exclusive, you CAN'T PORT IT because you have no legal right to.

If you can port it, but just never bothered to because sales don't justify it, to me that's not exclusive.

I always dread upgrading drivers, because sometimes a program will stop working and it can be a PITA.

Likewise hardware upgrades, you never know, sometimes pieces of hardware just don't operate well together.

WoW used to crash for me, because the mobo didn't like the graphics card.

Almost all games on 360 are upscaled to 1080.

When I first bought my 360, I was actually surprised that games could look that good on such cheap, compact hardware.

As a technologist I don't really differentiate between PC and console.

They're all just machines to me.

I prefer to game on consoles because they're "cute" and fun to use.

Don't really care if some of the graphics effects aren't top notch, they still look and run great for me.

And I'm one of the few people who actually LIKES the concept of motion gaming, I'm planning on setting up a place for Kinect in my home.

Okay Gears 2/3, Halo 3/Reach, Alan Wake, Forza series, Crackdown 1/2, Fable 2, the and the truck load of kinect games aren't exclusives because they all can be ported to Windows if microsoft wanted too.

Oh, and your PC is already pretty meh. I'm a consolite and I have more hardware than that.lowe0

And now that the proof's posted, the accusers suddenly fall silent. Comedy GOLD.lowe0

[QUOTE="lowe0"]And now that the proof's posted, the accusers suddenly fall silent. Comedy GOLD.lawlessx

Ah, I always find these threads to be hilarious. But, wasn't the whole point of lowe posting that was because people believed he didn't have the PC he claimed to have? And he went and posted a screenshot, proving he had the PC all along. Seems to me he proved his case.

Pfftt this is what my case looks like! Azza Solano :)

NoodleFighter

Those logo differences seem to be greatly exagerated, on the posters for games I have seen it the same size but is is less noticable, the reason, there is no single PC maker. With Sony and Microsoft they are single companies but with PCs you don't have any company trying to push it. MS don't care since they have the 360 and WIndows (which is what all PC games run on). And, all, I will say every one of those perhipherals could be developed and run on a console. Why, money, it is cheaper to develop new technology on a PC than a console. mike_on_mic

Did you pay attention to what you just wrote :P.

[QUOTE="lowe0"]And now that the proof's posted, the accusers suddenly fall silent. Comedy GOLD.lawlessx

There're still people who actually believes PC gaming is dying... (because VGChartz numbers and the lack of retail games on big stores): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iYkfVCF5n8E

:(

requires hardware upgrades, driver updates, it has no exclusives (exclusive is a marketing term denoting a game being held back from other platforms on purpose to drive hardware sales, not simply being unavailable due to low interest), controller support is based on the game, gaming on the couch with a PC is both inconvenient, inelegant and suboptimal (TV's only go up to 1080p, your PC gets better resolution on a monitor), I'm sure there's PC games have local multiplayer but they are relatively few and not widely known.ZombieKiller7

I have had my current gaming rig since March 2009, I have updated drivers for the video and sound card exactly once each in that time. I have added hardware, but haven't changed any hardware in it either.

If the PC has no exclusives, what do you call the Silent Hunter series, DCS: Black Shark and DCS: A-10, Flight Simulator X (and 2004, both of which has a booming payware market), Train Simulator 2012 (formely Railworks 2), Company of Heroes, Men of Assault (all versions) et. al.? Many here would like to know what you call those few games I listed if they are not exclusives (and there are others too mind you).

I don't know why MS doesn't just make a Xbox PC hybrid game system. Maybe next-gen?

There're still people who actually believes PC gaming is dying... (because VGChartz numbers and the lack of retail games on big stores):

:(

RyuRanVII

:lol: I love how the video poster call you a deluded fanboy on youtube :D Man people on youtube are dumb.

[QUOTE="lawlessx"][QUOTE="lowe0"]And now that the proof's posted, the accusers suddenly fall silent. Comedy GOLD.lowe0

[QUOTE="nameless12345"]

[QUOTE="Xtasy26"]

Then what would you consider acheap gaming system? See the problem with your argument is that while gaming PC's cost more it offeres MORE value such as FULL HD 1080P, DX 11, Tesselation, Keyboard and mouse which pwns controls. Not to mention Steam which blows away Xbox Live and PSN.

Xtasy26

I don't know. PC hardware tends to get outdated rather quickly and looses on value fast. You can buy the best PC today but it'll be average at best in two years. On the other hand, a console lasts you atleast five years without the need for any upgrades.

PC gaming is cheap only if you're a retro gamer or if you're not demanding.

Your statment doesn't make sense or either that you don't know much about PC gaming. My system in my sig minus the GPU and CPU was buit in 2008. I had a HD 4870 back then and it would still run most games in FULL HD 1080P in DX9/10 in 2011. And it wasn't the best PC in 2008. Whether it's average at best is irrelavant to the discussion because a PC with a HD 4870 will easily mow down the Xbox 360 and PS3.

so you upgraded in only 3 years? Also if the 4870 is so great why do you even need to upgrade?

so you upgraded in only 3 years? Also if the 4870 is so great why do you even need to upgrade?

dontshackzmii

People upgrade many times for preference or want even more power, or upgraded monitors with a bigger resolution. Lots of reasons. Most times its not a need but soley a want.

[QUOTE="nameless12345"]

Here are some counter-arguments against PC gaming:

- enthusiast PC gaming is expensive

- work with drivers, updates, graphics options, ect.

What's the big deal about drivers about all of them except GPU drivers will upgrade automatically, even then is it that hard to just go to AMD or Nvidias website enter what base model GPU or just let the webiste manually detect your GPU and give you the latest drivers. Graphics options won't be that hard if games will detect what hardware you have and automatically set the settings for you. Other then that it's not that hard to determine graphics settings some you just have to experiment with for at most 5 minutes in game.

- misses out on certain multi-plats

Neutral arguement since the same can said for consoles.

- digital downloads offer no advantages over retail shipping

- too much RTS and MMO games

what's wrong with MMOs?

- elitist community

What do you mean by this?

- PC games tend to be boring so luckily there are some console ports and FPS games on it :P

Such as >.>

NoodleFighter

Those games look kinda sad when compared to what consoles got.

Alienware_fan

Thanks for sharing your opinion, I guess. Regardless, all the systems get good games. It just seems that PC gets more high-scoring exclusives (in this generation).