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#1 EliteShadowDog
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Most agree and some are on the fence. But let it be know Natal has tremendous upside and will be amazing and set a new standard in motion control gaming.

One thing most people are not realizing is you can scan in anything you want into your games. Another thing is it will not be limited like the Wii or Move with it's set controllers. With natal you can have games come packaged with specific devices for the game if the developers choose. Or you can scan in your own in relation to the game.

Here are examples. Say you play a fishing game. The game may come packaged with a Rod or better yet you could scan in your own. Here is another great example. Take a game like Rockstar table tennis. That game was really good. Well with Natal you can scan in your own ping pong paddle. Or it could come package with one just to really immerse you in the game.

Natal is going to have endless possibilities. And never be limited to a specific controller or anything. I can not wait to see how creative developers are going to be. I was really amazed to hear about the latest game in development. It's a river rafting game that the whole family can play. That sounds so fun. You can all line up like your in a boat and each has a paddle and you go down the river and get in some crazy river rafting adventures. Now I know people will say that sounds ***. ok but look at it like this. Gaming is about fun. And I can truly see some real laughs and quality time being spent have a ball playing games like this with family and friends.

Natal really has a ton of potential and it will never be limited as to what it can really do. It's up to developers to get creative and really bring some amazing stuff out.

One thing I know some have had concerns about is maybe it will be laggy. Well rest assured. Recent demos have been said to be much better then what was even shown at E3 last year. They are saying now it is very smooth and not much to any lag at all. And it is expected to get even better closer to launch. And I hear that they are keeping the chip in now so that should really eliminate any lag fears.

NO DOUBT PROJECT NATAL FTW!!!!!!!!!

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Not interested in Natal and Move. I am interested in the reaction of Lems and Cows here when (and I'm consciously not using 'if' here) both turn out to be disappointing.

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#3 II_Seraphim_II
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Not interested in Natal and Move. I am interested in the reaction of Lems and Cows here when (and I'm consciously not using 'if' here) both turn out to be disappointing.

NielsNL
Thats how I feel to. Atleast with MOVE we know to expect Wii HD, so obviously it will have some sort of success. On the other hand with Natal anything can happen. I really need to see the price point, and just how accurate it is. But I guess if the only games they make are ones that don't require a lot of accuracy and precise movements, Natal could do very well.
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[QUOTE="NielsNL"]

Not interested in Natal and Move. I am interested in the reaction of Lems and Cows here when (and I'm consciously not using 'if' here) both turn out to be disappointing.

II_Seraphim_II

Thats how I feel to. Atleast with MOVE we know to expect Wii HD, so obviously it will have some sort of success. On the other hand with Natal anything can happen. I really need to see the price point, and just how accurate it is. But I guess if the only games they make are ones that don't require a lot of accuracy and precise movements, Natal could do very well.

like the TC said, you can scan anything you want and put it into a game, that means if you are playing a baseball game you get your bat and scan it, not to mention this will also work with the menus, netflix, and all those little things. Project Natal is going to be a major hit IMO, so much so that windows next operating system will have it incorporated into it.

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#5 slikonebtz
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scanning items or not how willnatal work with a platformer/action/fps/tps/adventure game?

scan in a normal pad me thinks

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#6 ActicEdge
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I can just imagine how much of a disaster it will be when people inevitable scan stuff that is not meant for indoor use. I think NATAL will be successful, I just don't know how successful.

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#7 C-Lee
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Nah, probably not.
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#8 killzowned24
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Be amazed at this milo scan demo!! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=my5sxc5Sras Too bad PS3 does it better and it already out:) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z3n9mVOteNM
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#9 forza420
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[QUOTE="killzowned24"]Be amazed at this milo scan demo!! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=my5sxc5Sras Too bad PS3 does it better and it already out:) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z3n9mVOteNM

its all hype. they said the same things about Wii before it came out and we were like "wowzerz!1" but look what happened. Flop! i dont trust Natal or Move..looks like they are just trying to cash in on the whole motion sensor craze
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I would hardly go so far as to call the Wii a " flop " man.

for me its the epitomy of success this gen..

still hate it tho...

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Now that I also own a Wii and find that I actually like motion, I am pretty anxious to see how Move turns out on PS3. If Natal ends up being successful, then I will probably look into it as well one day if I pick up a 360 again. As it stands now, I am selling mine.

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#12 forza420
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[QUOTE="balfe1990"]

I would hardly go so far as to call the Wii a " flop " man.

for me its the epitomy of success this gen..

still hate it tho...

i didnt mean it that way..that was the wrong wording,sorry about that. what i meant was it wasnt what it was cracked up to be. remember the star wars lightsaber motion game rumors? that never happened.
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the wii controllers are most interesting and useful when using the pointer, the actual motion is pretty limiting and atleast for me more of a distraction then an immersive experience. Especially as i usually sit down when gaming, so swinging my arm back and forth is pretty uncomfortable. The only time i've felt that motion is more fun, is when playing with others or playing a sports game like wii sports golf. natal focuses exclusively on motion, which while fun at parties and such, will be an annoyance when gaming seriously and pretty much rules out sitting down and chilling (some aspects could be exciting such as head tracking to lean etc. but i haven't seen this yet). Move is going to be similar to the wii controls, regardless of how accurate the motion is the pointer is going to be the most useful aspect, but 3 years too late. neither excite me at all.
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I can just imagine how much of a disaster it will be when people inevitable scan stuff that is not meant for indoor use. I think NATAL will be successful, I just don't know how successful.

ActicEdge

I can just imagine how much of a disaster System Wars will be when Natal is finally released and the public notices that the E3 09 trailer was a crapload of BS.

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Seriously it maybe good for fittness games but not for gaming.

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#16 II_Seraphim_II
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[QUOTE="II_Seraphim_II"][QUOTE="NielsNL"]

Not interested in Natal and Move. I am interested in the reaction of Lems and Cows here when (and I'm consciously not using 'if' here) both turn out to be disappointing.

SlimWifi

Thats how I feel to. Atleast with MOVE we know to expect Wii HD, so obviously it will have some sort of success. On the other hand with Natal anything can happen. I really need to see the price point, and just how accurate it is. But I guess if the only games they make are ones that don't require a lot of accuracy and precise movements, Natal could do very well.

like the TC said, you can scan anything you want and put it into a game, that means if you are playing a baseball game you get your bat and scan it, not to mention this will also work with the menus, netflix, and all those little things. Project Natal is going to be a major hit IMO, so much so that windows next operating system will have it incorporated into it.

I'm talking about accuracy, not what you can scan into it. For instance, if the game tells me to wave in order to perform an action, will Natal be able to distinguish between a wave and someone bobbing their head side to side? What if someone walks into the room and waves? Will it misinterpret that as me waving? That's the type I want to know. being able to scan objects is great and all, but I want to know about the elements that are most useful for gaming; How responsive is it? How accurate is it? What's the margin of error?
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[QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

I can just imagine how much of a disaster it will be when people inevitable scan stuff that is not meant for indoor use. I think NATAL will be successful, I just don't know how successful.

LordQuorthon

I can just imagine how much of a disaster System Wars will be when Natal is finally released and the public notices that the E3 09 trailer was a crapload of BS.

i don't know i'm pretty sure it can get your entire clothing collection from your warddrobe and fit them perfectly to your body, and i'm pretty sure you could scan a skateboard and it perfectly scans the layout, ignoring your fingers and such...
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#18 forza420
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i just thought about something concerning NATAL. i dont think its a good idea that you can scan "anything" if you understand what i mean.. theres alot of weirdos/creeps out there...i hope this scanning stuff doesnt have to do anything with online gaming.
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#19 II_Seraphim_II
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Seriously it maybe good for fittness games but not for gaming.

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:lol: that guy looks like such a tool lol. Those shades have "TOOL" written all over them :lol: and that stupid smirk and his hairst.yle aren't helping either :P

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I'm not sure where you are getting this "most agree" statement from. I've yet to make any decision about it since I haven't seen it in action. And I mean really gameplay. Same goes for the move.

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#21 Modern_Unit
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It is more appealing than move or 3DS according to some Yahoo article (ask me for link, too lazy to post it now). But i could care less about it. MS should instead be investing in new IPs because as of right now, PS3 has the games IMO

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Im not interested but i have to give MS credit for trying something diferent.

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i am not a huge fan of natal but i am glad we are moving forward with controls . we need to advance how we interact with games . right now weather you use key board and mouse or a game pad we are very limited . People who fight this are only holding back gaming. they want to stick with the limitations because they fear change so badly

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I'm not into the whole motion sensing thing to be honest. With the Wii it works perfectly cause the console revolves around it. As an add-on I really don't have any interest in it though. Haven't on any console in the past and won't in the future. It needs to have the console revolve around that playstyle if it wants to be successful. On top of that, I still prefer the standard controller over my Wii-mote.

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The only thing I see it blowing is peoples money. No controller means epic fail.

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Project Natal is the big white elephant in the room that Cows refuse to acknowledge.
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[QUOTE="SlimWifi"]

[QUOTE="II_Seraphim_II"] Thats how I feel to. Atleast with MOVE we know to expect Wii HD, so obviously it will have some sort of success. On the other hand with Natal anything can happen. I really need to see the price point, and just how accurate it is. But I guess if the only games they make are ones that don't require a lot of accuracy and precise movements, Natal could do very well.II_Seraphim_II

like the TC said, you can scan anything you want and put it into a game, that means if you are playing a baseball game you get your bat and scan it, not to mention this will also work with the menus, netflix, and all those little things. Project Natal is going to be a major hit IMO, so much so that windows next operating system will have it incorporated into it.

I'm talking about accuracy, not what you can scan into it. For instance, if the game tells me to wave in order to perform an action, will Natal be able to distinguish between a wave and someone bobbing their head side to side? What if someone walks into the room and waves? Will it misinterpret that as me waving? That's the type I want to know. being able to scan objects is great and all, but I want to know about the elements that are most useful for gaming; How responsive is it? How accurate is it? What's the margin of error?

Yes allegedly Natal can easily distinguish faces, body parts, voices, new players, and how many people are in the room.

Obviously MS werent gonna bring out a " revolutionary " product that couldn't distinguish between a wave and a head bob...theres nothing advanced about that man, that would be an utter failure.

there was noticeable lag in the early stages but was to be expected and supposedly it ain't an issue any more..

as for accurate, Natal is gonna be incredibly powerful and intelligent and makes hundereds of decisions and estimates about movements in a milisecond..

for the record i think Natal is far more ambitious and innovative than that PS Move thing (ITS JUST A FANCY WII WAND PEOPLE!!!)

the problem is that could be its downfall as the amazing technology of Natal won't be accepted this early in the game, people will just write it off because they're not really familiar with it

Shame....

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#28 xX-Incubus-Xx
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Seriously it maybe good for fittness games but not for gaming.

LegatoSkyheart

I love the power glove, it's so bad.

As for NATAL, all I have to say is Have you ever wondered what the bottom of a avatars shoe looks like, BAM!

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Seriously people don't even know the price of Natal yet, let alone if it'll be as good as it's being hyped.

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[QUOTE="II_Seraphim_II"][QUOTE="SlimWifi"]

like the TC said, you can scan anything you want and put it into a game, that means if you are playing a baseball game you get your bat and scan it, not to mention this will also work with the menus, netflix, and all those little things. Project Natal is going to be a major hit IMO, so much so that windows next operating system will have it incorporated into it.

balfe1990

I'm talking about accuracy, not what you can scan into it. For instance, if the game tells me to wave in order to perform an action, will Natal be able to distinguish between a wave and someone bobbing their head side to side? What if someone walks into the room and waves? Will it misinterpret that as me waving? That's the type I want to know. being able to scan objects is great and all, but I want to know about the elements that are most useful for gaming; How responsive is it? How accurate is it? What's the margin of error?

Yes allegedly Natal can easily distinguish faces, body parts, voices, new players, and how many people are in the room.

Obviously MS werent gonna bring out a " revolutionary " product that couldn't distinguish between a wave and a head bob...theres nothing advanced about that man, that would be an utter failure.

there was noticeable lag in the early stages but was to be expected and supposedly it ain't an issue any more..

as for accurate, Natal is gonna be incredibly powerful and intelligent and makes hundereds of decisions and estimates about movements in a milisecond..

for the record i think Natal is far more ambitious and innovative than that PS Move thing (ITS JUST A FANCY WII WAND PEOPLE!!!)

the problem is that could be its downfall as the amazing technology of Natal won't be accepted this early in the game, people will just write it off because they're not really familiar with it

Shame....

Early testing of NATAL showed little no lag but they got rid of the built in processor in favor of emulation and now they have problems with lag. You have your story backwards.

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Seriously people don't even know the price of Natal yet, let alone if it'll be as good as it's being hyped.

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Seriously people don't even know the price of Natal yet, let alone if it'll be as good as it's being hyped.

Lionheart08
True. Is The Move priced yet? Haven't heard anything...unless I'm living under a rock:P
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[QUOTE="II_Seraphim_II"][QUOTE="SlimWifi"]

Thats how I feel to. Atleast with MOVE we know to expect Wii HD, so obviously it will have some sort of success. On the other hand with Natal anything can happen. I really need to see the price point, and just how accurate it is. But I guess if the only games they make are ones that don't require a lot of accuracy and precise movements, Natal could do very well.II_Seraphim_II

like the TC said, you can scan anything you want and put it into a game, that means if you are playing a baseball game you get your bat and scan it, not to mention this will also work with the menus, netflix, and all those little things. Project Natal is going to be a major hit IMO, so much so that windows next operating system will have it incorporated into it.

I'm talking about accuracy, not what you can scan into it. For instance, if the game tells me to wave in order to perform an action, will Natal be able to distinguish between a wave and someone bobbing their head side to side? What if someone walks into the room and waves? Will it misinterpret that as me waving? That's the type I want to know. being able to scan objects is great and all, but I want to know about the elements that are most useful for gaming; How responsive is it? How accurate is it? What's the margin of error?

it scans your whole body. and pretty much puts you into the game.so if you kick. it kicks, you jump, it jumps. your buddy can jump into the game and it will put him into the game. i think natal will be used for mostly party games. but those games will be so much better then what move or wii can do. its gonna force people that likes these type of games to buy it. imo. sports, fitness,partygames. prolly learning kids games. like dora, elmo ect ect. natal will sell a ton and imo will be alot of fun for everyone to play.
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[QUOTE="noodlevixen"][QUOTE="Lionheart08"]

Seriously people don't even know the price of Natal yet, let alone if it'll be as good as it's being hyped.

True. Is The Move priced yet? Haven't heard anything...unless I'm living under a rock:P

thought i read, a move controller plus a motion game for 99 bucks.
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Motion controls FTL. Natal and Move will be total failures, cash-in minigame propellers that might ensnare a few Wii gamers but won't do anything for any of us in System Wars. Are you really excited about sitting in your chair pretending to white water raft, TC? Making rowing motions with your hands is only tolerable if you're actually rowing in real life, in a river, and get a real tangible experience out of it. Next it'll be Natal Potty Trainer, sit on the throne, drop a deuce, pretend to wipe. Good job little Johnny. It's like they try and think which mundane activity could be most easily translated into some silly gestural controls. Natal Squeegee Man could be fun, you could try and guess which cars would pay and which cars wouldn't, then you could Squeegee their windows and when people spit on you, you could try and avoid it. It would have a little Morale meter for all the people calling you a bum and telling you to get a life.
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[QUOTE="balfe1990"]

[QUOTE="II_Seraphim_II"] I'm talking about accuracy, not what you can scan into it. For instance, if the game tells me to wave in order to perform an action, will Natal be able to distinguish between a wave and someone bobbing their head side to side? What if someone walks into the room and waves? Will it misinterpret that as me waving? That's the type I want to know. being able to scan objects is great and all, but I want to know about the elements that are most useful for gaming; How responsive is it? How accurate is it? What's the margin of error?xX-Incubus-Xx

Yes allegedly Natal can easily distinguish faces, body parts, voices, new players, and how many people are in the room.

Obviously MS werent gonna bring out a " revolutionary " product that couldn't distinguish between a wave and a head bob...theres nothing advanced about that man, that would be an utter failure.

there was noticeable lag in the early stages but was to be expected and supposedly it ain't an issue any more..

as for accurate, Natal is gonna be incredibly powerful and intelligent and makes hundereds of decisions and estimates about movements in a milisecond..

for the record i think Natal is far more ambitious and innovative than that PS Move thing (ITS JUST A FANCY WII WAND PEOPLE!!!)

the problem is that could be its downfall as the amazing technology of Natal won't be accepted this early in the game, people will just write it off because they're not really familiar with it

Shame....

Early testing of NATAL showed little no lag but they got rid of the built in processor in favor of emulation and now they have problems with lag. You have your story backwards.

I beg your forgiveness...

but with at least 6 months till launch, MS MIGHT get around to ironing out that little problem...

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#37 clone01
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eh, i'll wait and see. could be cool, maybe not. time will tell.

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#38 dream431ca
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What is with these threads?? The titles alone are silly.

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Say you play a fishing game. The game may come packaged with a Rod or better yet you could scan in your own.

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Has the Wii taught you nothing? These types of grand motion control ideas don't work now and they never will.

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#40 ironcreed
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Motion controls FTL. Natal and Move will be total failures, cash-in minigame propellers that might ensnare a few Wii gamers but won't do anything for any of us in System Wars. Are you really excited about sitting in your chair pretending to white water raft, TC? Making rowing motions with your hands is only tolerable if you're actually rowing in real life, in a river, and get a real tangible experience out of it. Next it'll be Natal Potty Trainer, sit on the throne, drop a deuce, pretend to wipe. Good job little Johnny. It's like they try and think which mundane activity could be most easily translated into some silly gestural controls. Natal Squeegee Man could be fun, you could try and guess which cars would pay and which cars wouldn't, then you could Squeegee their windows and when people spit on you, you could try and avoid it. It would have a little Morale meter for all the people calling you a bum and telling you to get a life.Hahadouken

LOL, good stuff. I know exactly where you are coming from, as I used to feel the same way. Motion certainly is not for everyone. Hell, I NEVER thought I would embrace it. However, as a new Wii owner, I actually find it kind of refreshing to have a new way of playing in addition to playing with a traditional controller. Keeps things interesting.

For instance, I always thought Wii Sports looked beyond ridiculous. While I still find the Miis to be incredibly lame, I actually find the game quite fun. Very simplistic, but still fun due to the simple fact that I am up on my feet, controlling the game with my body instead of a bunch of buttons. It is just different and is providing me with a great change of pace, which I needed.

Like I said, though, I know where you are coming from and I respect your opinion. I am just at the point to where I am wanting something different and my mind is open to the prospects of new ways of doing things. I know my traditional controller is not going anywhere anytime soon, nor are the games for it. Motion is just another way of interacting with games and I think with the right minds and in the right hands, it can lead to some pretty incredible stuff down the road. Most importantly, I just want to have fun and think that motion just gives gamers another way of playing beyond sitting down with a controller or hunched over a keyboard and mouse. Nothing wrong with that.

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#41 deactivated-63f6895020e66
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"Blow everything away"?

That sounds worse than RRoD D:

*giggles*

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#42 ithilgore2006
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Wow you're not overhyping this is the slightest.

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#43 kuraimen
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With the RROD thing, I wouldn't be surprised if it blows everything up indeed :P
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#44 SlimWifi
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http://nexus404.com/Blog/2010/04/14/analyst-sees-xbox-slim-with-natal-250gb-hd-for-299-project-natal-and-xbox-360-slim-expected-in-2010/

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#45 ForsakenWicked
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[QUOTE="forza420"][QUOTE="killzowned24"]Be amazed at this milo scan demo!! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=my5sxc5Sras Too bad PS3 does it better and it already out:) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z3n9mVOteNM

its all hype. they said the same things about Wii before it came out and we were like "wowzerz!1" but look what happened. Flop! i dont trust Natal or Move..looks like they are just trying to cash in on the whole motion sensor craze

Totally agree with you Forza. Plus, weren't lems and cows just bashing motion controls since, according to them, they're just a fad? How come they're now hyping motion controllers for their platform?
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#46 arto1223
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I don't care too much for either Natal or Move, but if I had to say which one will likely produce better gameplay... I would say Move. The precision that it will offer and the fact that it has buttons mean that it has more potential.

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#47 TJORLY
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Motion controls ruined Nintendo. Whose to say the same wont happen with MS?

They made Natal to appeal to the casual idiots. You can whine all day about it 'enhancing the game experience' (and why? Games work perfectly with controllers.) and some such bs, but at the end of the day, it was made to tap into the Wii's market.

And if its successful? We'll have something even worse than the Wii. Because at least the Wii has buttons.

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#48 LordRork
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They probably should have released it with the next xbox...it will sell, but only to a select market.

And ultimately, Natal blows nothing away - the games that work with it should. Natal could be the most awesome advancement ever, but it will mean nothing if the games aren't good enough.

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#50 Kan0nF0dder
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To use an excellent simspons quote: "I didn't think it was possible for something to both SUCK and BLOW at the same time" Natal will certainly BLOW