Project Ouya finishes kickstart goal of nearly $1Million, in less than 24 hours.

[QUOTE="Blake135"]

[QUOTE="Mr_BillGates"]

Lol. Putting phone hardware in a home console is just retarded. This is a $99 junk. Will be forgotten in a couple months once people figured it can only play lowly Angry Birds and other terrible Android games with a couple weeks of development put into them. Don't expect high profile developers to jump in, as Android is still second fiddle to iOS.

santoron

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:lol: Thank you for the lulz!

Just passed 2 million in funding on day one. I'd say there's a demand!

[QUOTE="santoron"]

[QUOTE="Midnightshade29"] You can just plug your laptop or desktop into the tv and plug a controller in to... instant console only with PC graphics apps and capiblitites... Oh and a pc will have terabyte drives, more than one usb, graphics cards, and a real Intel/AMD x86-64bit cpu. I think I will take the pc over this. If only people knew...oh and a pc is open source already.Midnightshade29

You're missing the whole point of the device. You don't have to remind me of what a PC can do... I have several. This product aims to enhance the reach and capabilities of the mobile developers, an industry segment that has absolutely exploded in size and capability in the last four years. This gives them the ability to make games for large screeens and with traditional control methods (controller included, kb/m support built into ICS with ability to hook up via bluetooth or usb). There's a significant overlap between the PC and Mobile indie scenes, but there's also a large number that are exclusive to each.

Yes, your PC will play games at this level with ease, but that doesn't negate the promise of an open platform system for $99. Anyone that can't think of some excellent uses for this hardware is being obtuse, or lives solely in their bedroom.

Targeting people that want Andriod games with a controller on a open hackable and customizable mini console ? Why does it have to be labeled *casual* or *hardcore* its essentially another way to play games, you might not like it but clearly others find the idea awesome. And as the developers have said hey if this becomes big maybe we might make one with even better hardware.

I still don't understand the point of this? who is this aimed at? Casuals? The poor market who can't afford a pc? Any old pc will play these games, even ones with cheapo integrated graphics and single core cpus form 6-7 years ago. So whats the point? All this can be done on a pc. As a consumer this doesn't target hardcore gamers, so why care? I could care less about mobile devs, thats not my scene, for handhelds I prefer traditinal handheld games like on vita, psp, ds line...I have tons of ipod games, and guess what I don't play them at all, which makes me wonder who this is targeting as its not core gamers thats for sure.Midnightshade29

It's aimed at gamers.:|

It's based on a popular development platform, and aims to expand the reach of Android capable developers (mostly small and independent devs as a focus) from your pocket to your TV. And it aims to do so with decent hardware at a very good price. This isn't replacing your PC, nor is it trying to. If you watched their pitch you'd see that they are excited by the huge interest in Android development (and the open source nature of the platform) but believe gaming is better on bigger screeens and with physical inputs. Sounds reasonable to me... actually sounds much like what I hear around here all the time. So what's the harm of another option? And why can't you have "core" gaming on such a device?

An open console platform? How cool is that? :D

[QUOTE="Jynxzor"]Considering it's sitting at 2 million with 16k investors unless everyone donated more than $1200.00 they have some people with intersts vested in the system beyond purchasing it. For example I have a feeling Mojang slung a good chunk of cash this machines way just in-case it hits stride it's one more avenue for him to cram Minecraft down everyones gullet.Midnightshade29

Considering Minecraft announced themselves exclusive to the 360 months before release, I'd venture that they signed a non-compete agreement of the sort we've seen often with XBLA at that time. I have no idea if that was ever confirmed though.

so i just read it. it's... mobile gaming. on a console. i don't see this ending well, consoles by small groups never do. but at least it's android enabled, so if you have access to the android market, you can probably buy those games and make them work.BrunoBRS

That's the big issue, though: while I'm sure it'll be running CM9+ within nanoseconds of release, the out-of-the-box experience is a walled garden. Everything has to go through Ouya's storefront, so all of a sudden "OMG $99 console best deal evar!!!!!" turns into "do I really want to buy all these games for the second/third/fourth time just so I can play them on my TV?"

[QUOTE="BrunoBRS"]so i just read it. it's... mobile gaming. on a console. i don't see this ending well, consoles by small groups never do. but at least it's android enabled, so if you have access to the android market, you can probably buy those games and make them work.Slow_Show

That's the big issue, though: while I'm sure it'll be running CM9+ within nanoseconds of release, the out-of-the-box experience is a walled garden. Everything has to go through Ouya's storefront, so all of a sudden "OMG $99 console best deal evar!!!!!" turns into "do I really want to buy all these games for the second/third/fourth time just so I can play them on my TV?"

True. The average gamer won't see obvious avenues to access non Ouya specific titles. However, they are touting themselves as a friendly system to rooting/hacking/modding the software and hardware (going as far as to say rooting willNOT void your warranty). If that's something you want, simple instructions will likely be available within hours of launch.

Yup. $99 with no games. It's too open as well. No developers will support it. Just look at Android platform. No decent game developers will release their games on it. You want to play garbage Android games? Use your already low quality Android tablet.

Macho Man is rolling in his grave.

Yup. $99 with no games. It's too open as well. No developers will support it. Just look at Android platform. No decent game developers will release their games on it. You want to play garbage Android games? Use your already low quality Android tablet.

Mr_BillGates

Says the guy with an Apple logo for an avatar, I sense some butthurt.

Yup. $99 with no games. It's too open as well. No developers will support it. Just look at Android platform. No decent game developers will release their games on it. You want to play garbage Android games? Use your already low quality Android tablet.

Mr_BillGates

You saw the OS and you just can't move past it, can you? Shame.

any one remember the phantom game console at e3 2004?

That's damn brilliant news. Very interesting to see how it turns out. skrat_01

[QUOTE="Mr_BillGates"]

Yup. $99 with no games. It's too open as well. No developers will support it. Just look at Android platform. No decent game developers will release their games on it. You want to play garbage Android games? Use your already low quality Android tablet.

Whiteblade999

Says the guy with an Apple logo for an avatar, I sense some butthurt.

this needs to be kickstarted? who's developing this? So if this fails and doesn't work out all the people would have donated for nothing?

this needs to be kickstarted? who's developing this? So if this fails and doesn't work out all the people would have donated for nothing?

Chris_Williams

It's received $1.2 million+ over itsfunding goal in a little over a day, with another 4 weeks to go. I don't think you have to worry about it coming to market.

[QUOTE="Whiteblade999"]

[QUOTE="Mr_BillGates"]

Yup. $99 with no games. It's too open as well. No developers will support it. Just look at Android platform. No decent game developers will release their games on it. You want to play garbage Android games? Use your already low quality Android tablet.

Mr_BillGates

Says the guy with an Apple logo for an avatar, I sense some butthurt.

This isn't competing with any existing iOS product you twit. Save the fanboy blather for when Apple at leasts considers a comparable product. This is what iOS devs have been clamoring for with AppleTV for the last two+ years, but Apple hasn't (yet?) delivered.

[QUOTE="Chris_Williams"]

this needs to be kickstarted? who's developing this? So if this fails and doesn't work out all the people would have donated for nothing?

santoron

It's received $1.2 million+ over itsfunding goal in a little over a day, with another 4 weeks to go. I don't think you have to worry about it coming to market.

[QUOTE="santoron"]

[QUOTE="Chris_Williams"]

this needs to be kickstarted? who's developing this? So if this fails and doesn't work out all the people would have donated for nothing?

Chris_Williams

It's received $1.2 million+ over itsfunding goal in a little over a day, with another 4 weeks to go. I don't think you have to worry about it coming to market.

$950k was the goal, and while I completely agree w/ you that any Kickstarter has to be greeted with a skeptical eye, this one looks on the level withindustry excutives and designers at its core, and several current developers as its largest contributors. If you have real curiosity, I encourage you to check out their presentation. Most of the excess funds will simply go to meeting the advance orders they're commited to. Any pledge currently at $99 includes the console, and they've had to expand the limit twice already. In fact, it seems they're going to run into a wall soon where they simply can't commit to anymore pre-launch consoles well before the funding drive is over.

Ouya for emulation, honestly that's what I expect this console to become: an emulation device. Still, will be interesting to see what else hackers do with it.killeer2007

So, no hope for developers at all? Kind of sad to see how many people preach game design over graphics in this forum, but when something comes along to enable easy access to development and distribution, most are tripping over each other to discount it.

People are on crack trying to analyze this thing like it's intended as an assualt on the Big 3 market share.

You wanna know who this thing is aimed at? Hobbyist developers, tinkerers, hackers, nerds, and ultimately gamers. It's the opposite approach of big money corporate culture, which is to throw money and marketing at consumers and hope it sticks, then earn back the cash through royalties and hardware after years of billion dollar losses.

This is an open platform funded by the community it's aimed at with the hopes of getting the ideas of open source, f2p, and indie dev into the market where enthusiasts will drive the platform, rather than big money.

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Traditional gaming consoles, like the Xbox 360 or the Nintendo Wii, have always been closed platforms, meaning developers have to use expensive development kits to publish games. The Ouya is open, which means anyone can release a game on it, and the consolemakers even encourage hackers to meddle with the hardware.

"We've internally always called this the people's console," Uhrman said. "And that was one of the reasons we wanted to take it to Kickstarter so quickly-to get the support and feedback of gamers and developers as we continue to develop the product and take it to market. We always said that if there was a strong sign of demand, we would really change the world, and that if people wanted this, they would come out in droves."

http://venturebeat.com/2012/07/10/ouya-founder-we-never-anticipated-that-it-would-blow-up-like-this-exclusive-interview/

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TNW: Can you tell us about the vision behind Ouya?

JU:Ouya is our love letter to gamers. We know that in recent years, there has been a brain drain towards mobile in the gaming industry. For gamers, hardware is still very expensive, while it is hard for developers to bring their games to the living room, where gamers would like to play them. That's what we want to solve: we want to bring back games to the TV. We also want to challenge the status quo, and bring openness where it didn't exist.

TNW: What do you mean by openness?

JU:Everyone we talked to is embracing the idea of openness, and loves that approach. By the way, every single console comes with a debug console. You don't need to buy any expensive SDKs; all the tools you need will be available in the console. It will allow you to root the device without voiding the warranty. We're even working on the idea of a "plant" which will restore your profile after rooting your device, basically reversing the root.

And because it's on Android you'll understand the source code well and how it works. If people are interested, we may even publish the hardware design. This is really an open console - we're even going to have standard screws in the console and the controller so you can open it up!

TNW: Why now?

JU:We think the timing is perfect.The hardware that is available today has been out there for seven or eight years. There was no new hardware announced at E3, and the console cycle has become very long.

People are even trying to say consoles are dead - and we obviously disagree.I think one of the reasons that this idea is getting so well accepted is that people are looking for something new and different which can really challenge the status quo and can bring great creative content back to the television.

http://thenextweb.com/gadgets/2012/07/10/ouyas-founder-julie-uhrman-this-is-our-love-letter-to-gamers-interview/

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Cool idea. Not aimed at supplanting PC, mobile, or console. It's a concept project based around open-source development and affordable hardware. I think it's a f*cking amazing idea. Obviously this thing is really taking off.

From their kickstarter page FAQ.

"Is this just about playing mobile and tablet games on my TV?

No. Nope. Nyet. Nein. Can we say it more clearly?

OUYA was not created merely to host ports of existing Android games. We?ve built this badboy to play the most creative content from today?s best known AAA game designers as well as adored indie gamemakers.

That said, we believe many existing Android games will feel bigger and better on a TV with a real controller. And we?ve heard from developers like Brian Fargo and Adam Saltsman that the controller will be the most exciting reason to develop for OUYA. We hope they speak for all developers when they say OUYA will inspire new forms of gameplay. "

...Cool idea. Not aimed at supplanting PC, mobile, or console. It's a concept project based around open-source development and affordable hardware. I think it's a f*cking amazing idea. Obviously this thing is really taking off.

gamecubepad

Great post (not just the summation I'm quoting BTW). If people stop trying to defend their plastic of choice for a moment and LOOK at what this is I'd think we'd see a lot more gamers behind it.

Great post (not just the summation I'm quoting BTW). If people stop trying to defend their plastic of choice for a moment and LOOK at what this is I'd think we'd see a lot more gamers behind it.

santoron

Thanks. It's a inspiring idea, and frankly, I don't think it's going to have to see massive sales or popularity to justify it as a successful venture. There's just tons of potential for this thing.

With all the money they're gonna cut from the Kickstarter, I think they should fund development and/or aquisition of a few indie titles. A pack-in title(s) that really sell the controller and the hardware in the same manner Wii Sports did for the Wiimote and the Wii.

I applaude the success that the Ouya has turned out to be, but the free-to-play games and open source really is a double-edged sword, in my opinion. Surely, this will attract a large number of developers, but I can't shake the feeling of seeing pay-to-win games in the Ouya's future.

[QUOTE="FPSfan1985"][QUOTE="ShadowDeathX"] It is a different kind of console though. It is pretty much a mobile phone into the shape of a console. I might get one because it would make a great network streamer and I love the open source environment. Don't expect it to play full fledged console games.Mr_BillGates

"Good" Android game.

Yup. Crap platform + crap games = crap.

Have you played Infinity blade? Thats far from crap, and angry birds is actually fun.

[QUOTE="santoron"]

Great post (not just the summation I'm quoting BTW). If people stop trying to defend their plastic of choice for a moment and LOOK at what this is I'd think we'd see a lot more gamers behind it.

gamecubepad

Thanks. It's a inspiring idea, and frankly, I don't think it's going to have to see massive sales or popularity to justify it as a successful venture. There's just tons of potential for this thing.

With all the money they're gonna cut from the Kickstarter, I think they should fund development and/or aquisition of a few indie titles. A pack-in title(s) that really sell the controller and the hardware in the same manner Wii Sports did for the Wiimote and the Wii.

Great minds think alike, apparently. The pitch stated explicitly that they hoped to have excess capital to fund some exclusive (though obviously not first party) titles that the manufacturers feel will really show off the consoles potential from day one. Right now it's already looking like that'll be a reality.

Great minds think alike, apparently. The pitch stated explicitly that they hoped to have excess capital to fund some exclusive (though obviously not first party) titles that the manufacturers feel will really show off the consoles potential from day one. Right now it's already looking like that'll be a reality.

santoron

Awesome. I get a massive hippy vibe from this console. Love the concept, and the fact that it's founder is a woman makes it all the more intriguing. No doubt this thing is gonna cause disruption in the industry as a highly-versitile computing device. Get OnLive to support the platform and things open up even more.

What's exciting for me is that the advancement of indie games onto the TV. MS has their indie platform along with XBLA, PC has tons of support, and of course phones have tons of games too. Indie games are to me, what gaming would be like if everything wasn't immediately whored-out to 3D gaming with the advent of the PSX and N64. It's a cherished style of gaming that's made a monsterous comeback, made obvious by huge success of projects like Humble Indie Bundle.

Games, or preferably sequels/variants I'd like to see on the Ouya:

1- Trine

2- Braid

3- Limbo

4- Super Meat Boy

5- Machinarium

Add in anything from Dream.Build.Play.

I have a feeling that Kickstarter is going to be pivotal in getting any sort of exclusive, or timed-exclusive onto this thing. We shall see.

The problem with everyone able to develop for OUYA will be the sheer amount of poor quality games. Your gonna have to wade through a ton of sh!t before you find something worth playing, because there's no sort of system in place to filter out the crap. It's the same problem the android phones have, there's a huge amount of crappy games and a handful of good ones. Excited for OUYA though, great idea imo.

The problem with everyone able to develop for OUYA will be the sheer amount of poor quality games. Your gonna have to wade through a ton of sh!t before you find something worth playing, because there's no sort of system in place to filter out the crap. It's the same problem the android phones have, there's a huge amount of crappy games and a handful of good ones. Excited for OUYA though, great idea imo.

Majistrate

I believe they have a *store* or online *market* so you can sort it I assume by ratings and popularity. In any case this has 28 days to go with them FAR REACHING their target funding Hoping they do some good things with the extra cash.

*cough* Phantom *cough*

This console is doomed from the start, because I can have the same experience from my PC

*cough* Phantom *cough*

This console is doomed from the start, because I can have the same experience from my PC

FireEmblem_Man

The Phantom was a great idea, but too ahead of it's time, too cumbersome, and too costly to really take off.

This is thing is obviously dirt cheap to produce, has a plethora of uses, and has the benefit of a standard game controller, open source android development, and Kickstarter to back it up. If they end up with $5 million in funding over the next month, they can literally use that to produce anywhere from 20,000-50,000 units, and still have cash left over. This thing has profit written all over it.

2.5 million I don't even I recon they MIGHT reach close to 4-5 Million if they keep uping the limit on the console they are making but honestly I see them hitting a wall sooner or later to try and keep up with demand.

2.5 million I don't even I recon they MIGHT reach close to 4-5 Million if they keep uping the limit on the console they are making but honestly I see them hitting a wall sooner or later to try and keep up with demand.

Blake135

They could always go for securing exclusive games.

*sighs* Yet another casual garbage.

[QUOTE="Mr_BillGates"]

[QUOTE="FPSfan1985"] A console is a console. I couldn't care less about playing "full fledged consoles games" I just want good games.musalala

"Good" Android game.

Yup. Crap platform + crap games = crap.

Have you played Infinity blade? Thats far from crap, and angry birds is actually fun.

I can't believe there are people that are exited about this thing. They put a tegra3 on a box, a crappy CPU that you find on phones and people started pouring money on it. Why what's the point of this?

I can't believe there are people that are exited about this thing. They put a tegra3 on a box, a crappy CPU that you find on phones and people started pouring money on it. Why what's the point of this?

edidili

Read past comments cbf explaning.

[QUOTE="edidili"]

I can't believe there are people that are exited about this thing. They put a tegra3 on a box, a crappy CPU that you find on phones and people started pouring money on it. Why what's the point of this?

Blake135

Read past comments cbf explaning.

I did and the exitement still doesn't make sense to me. It is a tablet/phone hardware assembled in a box. The kind of hardware which becomes extremely outdated in a year. Nothing new or revolutionary. Something which already exists bundled inside much more useful devices. No reason why there should be a separate box near the TV for this.

[QUOTE="FireEmblem_Man"]

*cough* Phantom *cough*

This console is doomed from the start, because I can have the same experience from my PC

gamecubepad

The Phantom was a great idea, but too ahead of it's time, too cumbersome, and too costly to really take off.

This is thing is obviously dirt cheap to produce, has a plethora of uses, and has the benefit of a standard game controller, open source android development, and Kickstarter to back it up. If they end up with $5 million in funding over the next month, they can literally use that to produce anywhere from 20,000-50,000 units, and still have cash left over. This thing has profit written all over it.

Okay, so how many kickstarter projects actually took off and sold over millions? Yes some ideas are "interesting" but there are some that are not worth the investment. I could practically do all those "promised" features on a desktop PC. There has to be a reason why business investors think that it isn't worth the money, especially when the market of console gaming is still huge.

You gonna have to donate more to this project in order for it to sell.

[QUOTE="Blake135"]

[QUOTE="edidili"]

I can't believe there are people that are exited about this thing. They put a tegra3 on a box, a crappy CPU that you find on phones and people started pouring money on it. Why what's the point of this?

edidili

Read past comments cbf explaning.

I did and the exitement still doesn't make sense to me. It is a tablet/phone hardware assembled in a box. The kind of hardware which becomes extremely outdated in a year. Nothing new or revolutionary. Something which already exists bundled inside much more useful devices. No reason why there should be a separate box near the TV for this.

Extremely developer friendly, comes with Software to make your own games, fully hackable doesn't void warrenty, comes with controller to play andriod games(and other games) So Essentially I could make a emulator and it would be all fine and dandy or someone could idk make it so Half Life 1 runs on it or IDK the list is endless Im not saying this is ZOMG PHUUCK EPIC NEWS but its still a neat and cool system that is still JUST taking baby steps I mean the thing still has 28 days to go. The IDEA is what I wanted the RUMORED Steambox to be a fully customizable console, im HOPING if they get enough support and customers that they might make one that rivals modern consoles, i would kill for something like that I hate the way MS SOny and Nintendo are heading. At the end of the day it is just a neat little piece of tech that doesn't cost you much and iv seen people pay hundred's more for things that are way more stupid.

So Valve isn't making a Linux based console. These guys are. :o

''Extremely developer friendly''

Like the PC? That still doesn't mean squat. Developers will make the game if it pays off no matter how friendly or unfriendly it is. I wouldn't call Android the paradise of developers btw. It's far from it.

comes with Software to make your own games,Blake135

Like every other platform and I doubt this one will have better tools than what MS or others gives to the devs.

fully hackable doesn't void warrentyBlake135

Emulators are not going to carry a console. Sure is great for the enthusiast but way too much work for the average Joe. Plus everyone has a laptop anyway which has much better performance with emulators. Why would they want another separate box for that?

comes with controller to play andriod games(and other games)Blake135

Every console comes with controllers and android games suck. They only exist because they can run on a phone but if they were for sale on steam or xbox live nobody would buy them.

''Extremely developer friendly''

Like the PC? That still doesn't mean squat. Developers will make the game if it pays off no matter how friendly or unfriendly it is. I wouldn't call Android the paradise of developers btw. It's far from it.

[QUOTE="Blake135"]

Like every other platform and I doubt this one will have better tools than what MS or others gives to the devs.

[QUOTE="Blake135"]

Every console comes with controllers and android games suck. They only exist because they can run on a phone but if they were for sale on steam or xbox live nobody would buy them.

edidili

Games will be better BECAUSE there is a controller and a system with static hardware to develop for instead of touchscreen only garbage.

All I'm seeing is something that we can already do with the PC, only more Casual.

It's like a SUPER CASUAL PC.

''Extremely developer friendly''

Like the PC? That still doesn't mean squat. Developers will make the game if it pays off no matter how friendly or unfriendly it is. I wouldn't call Android the paradise of developers btw. It's far from it.

[QUOTE="Blake135"]

Like every other platform and I doubt this one will have better tools than what MS or others gives to the devs.

[QUOTE="Blake135"]fully hackable doesn't void warrentyedidili

Emulators are not going to carry a console. Sure is great for the enthusiast but way too much work for the average Joe. Plus everyone has a laptop anyway which has much better performance with emulators. Why would they want another separate box for that?

comes with controller to play andriod games(and other games)Blake135

Every console comes with controllers and android games suck. They only exist because they can run on a phone but if they were for sale on steam or xbox live nobody would buy them.

Don't know what to tell you dude clearly this aint for you, it has a good backing and people want something like this i was only listing some things off the top of my head.