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#101 mrjam0
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[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"] Its not like PCs are astronomically more complex or harder to use. People just THINK they are harder to use. Most PC things are fully automated now, and you're not going to get viruses unless you go to malicious sites or read anonymous e-mail. In that case, its the end user's fault.Jandurin
Viruses aside, which is a difficult enough problem these days be they the end users fault or not (which I'm inclined to say, fault or not, it's still an obstacle), PCs ARE several times harder to put together and keep working than consoles. They ARE. Don't even try to argue it.

OH HE'S GONNA ARGUE IT

that's just what they do

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[QUOTE="Jandurin"][QUOTE="Vandalvideo"] Its not like PCs are astronomically more complex or harder to use. People just THINK they are harder to use. Most PC things are fully automated now, and you're not going to get viruses unless you go to malicious sites or read anonymous e-mail. In that case, its the end user's fault.mrjam0

Viruses aside, which is a difficult enough problem these days be they the end users fault or not (which I'm inclined to say, fault or not, it's still an obstacle), PCs ARE several times harder to put together and keep working than consoles. They ARE. Don't even try to argue it.

OH HE'S GONNA ARGUE IT

that's just what they do

OH NO HE DIDNT!!

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#103 Vandalvideo
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[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"] PCs require little to no upkeep as long as the end user isn't going to all kinds of malicious sites. I haven't had a SINGLE problem with my nearly 2 year old PC since I built it, not a single one. I don't even have any kind of heavy duty anti-viruses or spyware blockers. These things are exercises in tedium and are not required.Cute_Red_Panda

Seriously, I thought we went over this? No way you can say PC is just as easy to build as a console. You have to be delusional to say otherwise.

Did I say that PCs are just as easy? I just said that PCs aren't astronomically harder than consoles. Besides, if you don't want to build it yourself you always have the option of having someone put it together for you. Building one is not hard.
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Did I say that PCs are just as easy? I just said that PCs aren't astronomically harder than consoles. Besides, if you don't want to build it yourself you always have the option of having someone put it together for you. Building one is not hard.Vandalvideo
When my disc drive breaks in my 360, I know what I have to do to fix it.

What about when my motherboard goes on my PC.

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When my disc drive breaks in my 360, I know what I have to do to fix it. What about when my motherboard goes on my PC.Jandurin
Yeah, to fix it you call up Microsoft, wait a week for the box to get there, wait another three weeks to get it back, etc. Atleast with PCs you have the OPTION of not sending it in at all, and trouble shooting the problem. Then again, like I said, I haven't had a single problem with my 2 year old PC since I built it.
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Did I say that PCs are just as easy? I just said that PCs aren't astronomically harder than consoles. Besides, if you don't want to build it yourself you always have the option of having someone put it together for you. Building one is not hard.Vandalvideo

I built my PC also, and it was way harder then my consoles. I think it's the main reason why people game more on console than PC.

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OMG... Sh*t like this gets me mad. Go F**King play your video games! PC is not better then Xbox 360. Xbox 360 is not better then PC. Nothing is better then something else. I haven't played a game other then WoW on my PC for months.. Why? Because nothing interests me! I' m waiting for GTA on my 360. I'm waiting for stuff on PC as well. Get over it. I have built 4 Computers it isn't easy for everyone just stop your complaining. If PC was so much better in your opinion why are you here ranting when you could be playing your all so great PC.

Now if you excuse me I have to go to work and have a life. Not saying you don't I'm just saying you should go live it if you have it.

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[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"] Did I say that PCs are just as easy? I just said that PCs aren't astronomically harder than consoles. Besides, if you don't want to build it yourself you always have the option of having someone put it together for you. Building one is not hard.Cute_Red_Panda

I built my PC also, and it was way harder than my consoles. I think it's the main reason why people game more on console than PC.

Once again, I didn't say that building a PC is as easy as playing consoles, I said that its not astronomically harder. Building a PC is incredibly easy, and everyone has the basic skill set to build one. People only think that the PC is some beast that is super hard to put together, but its not. If you can make a club sandwhich and toast, you have the basic motor skills to put together a PC. All you need to do is read an instruction manual. GOD FORBID YOU READ AN INSTRUCTION MANUAL! Then again, if you don't feel the need to put it together, you can just have someone put it together for you.
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Yeah, to fix it you call up Microsoft, wait a week for the box to get there, wait another three weeks to get it back, etc. Atleast with PCs you have the OPTION of not sending it in at all, and trouble shooting the problem. Then again, like I said, I haven't had a single problem with my 2 year old PC since I built it.Vandalvideo
What if, like my roommate, your graphic card goes, your previously silver processor is black, and your computer doesn't turn off without a hard shutdown?

And you bought your system pre-built?

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[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"]Yeah, to fix it you call up Microsoft, wait a week for the box to get there, wait another three weeks to get it back, etc. Atleast with PCs you have the OPTION of not sending it in at all, and trouble shooting the problem. Then again, like I said, I haven't had a single problem with my 2 year old PC since I built it.Jandurin

What if, like my roommate, your graphic card goes, your previously silver processor is black, and your computer doesn't turn off without a hard shutdown?

And you bought your system pre-built?

Then its probably user error for placing it in a highly dusted area with poor ventallation OR overclocking. I've never had a video card give out on me and I'm pretty rough with my rigs.
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[QUOTE="Jandurin"][QUOTE="Vandalvideo"] Its not like PCs are astronomically more complex or harder to use. People just THINK they are harder to use. Most PC things are fully automated now, and you're not going to get viruses unless you go to malicious sites or read anonymous e-mail. In that case, its the end user's fault.Vandalvideo
Viruses aside, which is a difficult enough problem these days be they the end users fault or not (which I'm inclined to say, fault or not, it's still an obstacle), PCs ARE several times harder to put together and keep working than consoles. They ARE. Don't even try to argue it.

PCs require little to no upkeep as long as the end user isn't going to all kinds of malicious sites. I haven't had a SINGLE problem with my nearly 2 year old PC since I built it, not a single one. I don't even have any kind of heavy duty anti-viruses or spyware blockers. These things are exercises in tedium and are not required.

PCs require little to no upkeep...

im gonna stop here first. that's a lie, and ur not convincing ANYONE

I haven't had a SINGLE problem with my nearly 2 year old PC since I built it, not a single one. I don't even have any kind of heavy duty anti-viruses or spyware blockers. These things are exercises in tedium and are not required

speak for urself. there are millions who have THAT VERY PROBLEM. its mind bottleing that hermits try to convince people tht PC gaming takes close to, or on the same level of contribution as consoles.

let me break it down for u incase u haven't played a console in a while...

step one. buy the console

step two. buy the game

step three. hook it up to ur tv

step four. put the game in the drive

step five. enjoy

enlighten me if pc gaming is that simple

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I built my PC also, and it was way harder then my consoles. I think it's the main reason why people game more on console than PC. Cute_Red_Panda
It's the only real reason. People claim other things, but most of it is that they game to game. They don't game to build a questionably working machine to play games that may or may not be compatible.
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#114 Vandalvideo
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im gonna stop here first. that's a lie, and ur not convincing ANYONEspeak for urself. there are millions who have THAT VERY PROBLEM. its mind bottleing that hermits try to convince people tht PC gaming takes close to, or on the same level of contribution as consoles. let me break it down for u incase u haven't played a console in a while...step one. buy the console step two. buy the gamestep three. hook it up to ur tstep four. put the game in the drivestep five. enjo enlighten me if pc gaming is that simplemrjam0
Horrible and utterly wrong. PC gaming requires little to no upkeep, and thats a fact. As long as you aren't neglecting your PC by placing it in a poorly ventalliated area with lots of dust it will be fine. Most drivers, patches, and updates are FULLY AUTOMATED, and you don't need to perform any kind of rigorous upkeep. Anti-virus software IS NOT needed as long as you refrain from malicious sites and anon e-mails. Let me break it down for you: Step 1) Purchase the PC Step 2) [Optional] Have the parts sent to your local best buy and they will assemble it for you. Step 3) Take home and plug into TV Step 4) buy game and put in Step 5) Sit through a very short installation process.
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Then its probably user error for placing it in a highly dusted area with poor ventallation OR overclocking. I've never had a video card give out on me and I'm pretty rough with my rigs.Vandalvideo
no overclocking. Maybe poorly ventilated. Still, though, it's much HARDER to replace a PC than a console.
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[QUOTE="Cute_Red_Panda"]

[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"] Did I say that PCs are just as easy? I just said that PCs aren't astronomically harder than consoles. Besides, if you don't want to build it yourself you always have the option of having someone put it together for you. Building one is not hard.Vandalvideo

I built my PC also, and it was way harder than my consoles. I think it's the main reason why people game more on console than PC.

Once again, I didn't say that building a PC is as easy as playing consoles, I said that its not astronomically harder. Building a PC is incredibly easy, and everyone has the basic skill set to build one. People only think that the PC is some beast that is super hard to put together, but its not. If you can make a club sandwhich and toast, you have the basic motor skills to put together a PC. All you need to do is read an instruction manual. GOD FORBID YOU READ AN INSTRUCTION MANUAL! Then again, if you don't feel the need to put it together, you can just have someone put it together for you.

"Bolded"

Some may just need a instruction book for that as well. :) j/k sorta

Building a PC just has that overly technical sound to it but I get what you are saying.

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#117 Vandalvideo
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[QUOTE="Cute_Red_Panda"] I built my PC also, and it was way harder then my consoles. I think it's the main reason why people game more on console than PC. Jandurin
It's the only real reason. People claim other things, but most of it is that they game to game. They don't game to build a questionably working machine to play games that may or may not be compatible.

If you have a relatively modern rig it will play all new PC games. Compatability is no longer an issue.
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#118 Vandalvideo
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[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"]Then its probably user error for placing it in a highly dusted area with poor ventallation OR overclocking. I've never had a video card give out on me and I'm pretty rough with my rigs.Jandurin
no overclocking. Maybe poorly ventilated. Still, though, it's much HARDER to replace a PC than a console.

Not really. You can walk or drive down to your local bestbuy's geek squad and you can have them repair it for you. (Or any other store that does it for significantly less). You don't have that month queue time. Oh and you have the option of fixing it yourself as well.
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#119 SeanBond
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Thank God...

For a minute there I was worried that a console vs. PC thread wouldn't turn into a thread about why PCs are much harder (or not much harder) to maintain than consoles. :lol:

This is one of my favorite topics to argue, as both sides offer pretty hilarious insights (or exaggerations ;))

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[QUOTE="Jandurin"][QUOTE="Cute_Red_Panda"] I built my PC also, and it was way harder then my consoles. I think it's the main reason why people game more on console than PC. Vandalvideo
It's the only real reason. People claim other things, but most of it is that they game to game. They don't game to build a questionably working machine to play games that may or may not be compatible.

If you have a relatively modern rig it will play all new PC games. Compatability is no longer an issue.

lol...Okay Vandal. I can't believe you still hold this false argument. Compatability is an issue. I still can't play Crysis on high settings, and I build my computer 8 months ago.

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#121 mrjam0
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[QUOTE="mrjam0"]im gonna stop here first. that's a lie, and ur not convincing ANYONEspeak for urself. there are millions who have THAT VERY PROBLEM. its mind bottleing that hermits try to convince people tht PC gaming takes close to, or on the same level of contribution as consoles. let me break it down for u incase u haven't played a console in a while...step one. buy the console step two. buy the gamestep three. hook it up to ur tstep four. put the game in the drivestep five. enjo enlighten me if pc gaming is that simpleVandalvideo
Horrible and utterly wrong. PC gaming requires little to no upkeep, and thats a fact. As long as you aren't neglecting your PC by placing it in a poorly ventalliated area with lots of dust it will be fine. Most drivers, patches, and updates are FULLY AUTOMATED, and you don't need to perform any kind of rigorous upkeep. Anti-virus software IS NOT needed as long as you refrain from malicious sites and anon e-mails. Let me break it down for you: Step 1) Purchase the PC Step 2) [Optional] Have the parts sent to your local best buy and they will assemble it for you. Step 3) Take home and plug into TV Step 4) buy game and put in Step 5) Sit through a very short installation process.

i would like to direct everyone's atttention to this post, and tell me what u think

(notice that i didint take the time to directly respond to u. u and i both know y)

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#122 Vandalvideo
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lol...Okay Vandal. I can't believe you still hold this false argument. Compatability is an issue. I still can't play Crysis on high settings, and I build my computer 8 months ago.Cute_Red_Panda
maybe not high, but you CAN play Crysis. Arguement won and over. If you have a modern rig you can run all modern PC games. End of story.
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[QUOTE="Jandurin"][QUOTE="Vandalvideo"]Then its probably user error for placing it in a highly dusted area with poor ventallation OR overclocking. I've never had a video card give out on me and I'm pretty rough with my rigs.Vandalvideo
no overclocking. Maybe poorly ventilated. Still, though, it's much HARDER to replace a PC than a console.

Not really. You can walk or drive down to your local bestbuy's geek squad and you can have them repair it for you. (Or any other store that does it for significantly less). You don't have that month queue time. Oh and you have the option of fixing it yourself as well.

You can fix your Xbox 360 if it RRODs. It is just a solder job.Only problem is it voids your warranty.. OMG! Same thing with PC Hardware components. Why do it tho? BFG has 3 Year Warranty free new Graphics card.. OMG! Same thing with Xbox 360. Oh my head hurts.. Im confused!!!

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You can fix your Xbox 360 if it RRODs. It is just a solder job.Only problem is it voids your warranty.. OMG! Same thing with PC Hardware components. Why do it tho? BFG has 3 Year Warranty free new Graphics card.. OMG! Same thing with Xbox 360. Oh my head hurts.. Im confused!!! Antikyth3ra
Solder your 360 and break the warranty. BRILLIANT! The towel method is just as bad, as it only gives you a few days at most of added play time.
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Horrible and utterly wrong. PC gaming requires little to no upkeep, and thats a fact. As long as you aren't neglecting your PC by placing it in a poorly ventalliated area with lots of dust it will be fine. Most drivers, patches, and updates are FULLY AUTOMATED, and you don't need to perform any kind of rigorous upkeep. Anti-virus software IS NOT needed as long as you refrain from malicious sites and anon e-mails. Let me break it down for you: Step 1) Purchase the PC Step 2) [Optional] Have the parts sent to your local best buy and they will assemble it for you. Step 3) Take home and plug into TV Step 4) buy game and put in Step 5) Sit through a very short installation process.Vandalvideo
Yep. As long as you know exactly what you're doing, when to wait, what to order, what you need for the games you want to play, what mouse and keyboard to use, which brands are better, PC gaming is only twice as difficult as console gaming.

As long as you're already an expert, it's almost similar, relative to how hard it is for a non-expert, in terms of difficulty.

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Thank God...

For a minute there I was worried that a console vs. PC thread wouldn't turn into a thread about why PCs are much harder (or not much harder) to maintain than consoles. :lol:

This is one of my favorite topics to argue, as both sides offer pretty hilarious insights (or exaggerations ;))

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It's the only misconception still worth arguing in SW.
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[QUOTE="Cute_Red_Panda"]lol...Okay Vandal. I can't believe you still hold this false argument. Compatability is an issue. I still can't play Crysis on high settings, and I build my computer 8 months ago.Vandalvideo
maybe not high, but you CAN play Crysis. Arguement won and over. If you have a modern rig you can run all modern PC games. End of story.

You just don't get it...

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Yep. As long as you know exactly what you're doing, when to wait, what to order, what you need for the games you want to play, what mouse and keyboard to use, which brands are better, PC gaming is only twice as difficult as console gaming.As long as you're already an expert, it's almost similar, relative to how hard it is for a non-expert, in terms of difficulty.Jandurin
PC gamers didn't start out as experts. I built my first PC without any kind of formal training or experience with just a simple manual and nothing more. I didn't know any of the information you just said someone may need to know. PC gaming isn't astronomically more difficult than consoles. You have the option of building it yourself, which isn't hard, or the option of having someone build it for you. OMG ONE MORE STEP! TEH HORROR!
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[QUOTE="Merkaba"]

If it isn't played with a mouse and keyboard, I'd rather "miss out."

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like a woman??

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hahaha owned, sig worthy

How is that owned? It doesn't even make sense...

Women prefer PC gaming so I'm a woman? Ok...

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PC gamers didn't start out as experts. I built my first PC without any kind of formal training or experience with just a simple manual and nothing more. I didn't know any of the information you just said someone may need to know. PC gaming isn't astronomically more difficult than consoles. You have the option of building it yourself, which isn't hard, or the option of having someone build it for you. OMG ONE MORE STEP! TEH HORROR!Vandalvideo
And, maybe you were one of the lucky ones that built your first PC without making too many mistakes. I bet it got a hell of a lot easier since.

Oh, wait. Each time you buy a console, it always works with the games for that console? Wow, in your world, that's like negative steps.

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[QUOTE="Jandurin"]Yep. As long as you know exactly what you're doing, when to wait, what to order, what you need for the games you want to play, what mouse and keyboard to use, which brands are better, PC gaming is only twice as difficult as console gaming.As long as you're already an expert, it's almost similar, relative to how hard it is for a non-expert, in terms of difficulty.Vandalvideo
PC gamers didn't start out as experts. I built my first PC without any kind of formal training or experience with just a simple manual and nothing more. I didn't know any of the information you just said someone may need to know. PC gaming isn't astronomically more difficult than consoles. You have the option of building it yourself, which isn't hard, or the option of having someone build it for you. OMG ONE MORE STEP! TEH HORROR!

becasue BUILDING IT counts as one more step:roll:

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#132 Vandalvideo
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Oh, wait. Each time you buy a console, it always works with the games for that console? Wow, in your world, that's like negative steps.Jandurin
Ehhhhhh wrong. I had tons of problems getting BC to work with the PS3, despite the box claiming it was fully BC. (Prior to removal of emotion engine). As long as you have a modern rig, you can play all modern PC games. There are only three things you need to know to not screw up a rig. A) ZOMG electricity is bad........ Thats about it.
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[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="Jandurin"]Yep. As long as you know exactly what you're doing, when to wait, what to order, what you need for the games you want to play, what mouse and keyboard to use, which brands are better, PC gaming is only twice as difficult as console gaming.As long as you're already an expert, it's almost similar, relative to how hard it is for a non-expert, in terms of difficulty.mrjam0

PC gamers didn't start out as experts. I built my first PC without any kind of formal training or experience with just a simple manual and nothing more. I didn't know any of the information you just said someone may need to know. PC gaming isn't astronomically more difficult than consoles. You have the option of building it yourself, which isn't hard, or the option of having someone build it for you. OMG ONE MORE STEP! TEH HORROR!

becasue BUILDING IT counts as one more step:roll:

No, having someone build it for you counts as one more step.
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#134 Merkaba-
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[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="Jandurin"][QUOTE="Vandalvideo"] Its not like PCs are astronomically more complex or harder to use. People just THINK they are harder to use. Most PC things are fully automated now, and you're not going to get viruses unless you go to malicious sites or read anonymous e-mail. In that case, its the end user's fault.mrjam0

Viruses aside, which is a difficult enough problem these days be they the end users fault or not (which I'm inclined to say, fault or not, it's still an obstacle), PCs ARE several times harder to put together and keep working than consoles. They ARE. Don't even try to argue it.

PCs require little to no upkeep as long as the end user isn't going to all kinds of malicious sites. I haven't had a SINGLE problem with my nearly 2 year old PC since I built it, not a single one. I don't even have any kind of heavy duty anti-viruses or spyware blockers. These things are exercises in tedium and are not required.

PCs require little to no upkeep...

im gonna stop here first. that's a lie, and ur not convincing ANYONE

I haven't had a SINGLE problem with my nearly 2 year old PC since I built it, not a single one. I don't even have any kind of heavy duty anti-viruses or spyware blockers. These things are exercises in tedium and are not required

speak for urself. there are millions who have THAT VERY PROBLEM. its mind bottleing that hermits try to convince people tht PC gaming takes close to, or on the same level of contribution as consoles.

let me break it down for u incase u haven't played a console in a while...

step one. buy the console

step two. buy the game

step three. hook it up to ur tv

step four. put the game in the drive

step five. enjoy

enlighten me if pc gaming is that simple

Step five should say: Enjoy for five minutes and get bored and go back to Team Fortress 2 which you've already invested 1000+ hours in but is still limitlessly more fun than anything on xbox/any shooter played with a gamepad.

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#135 mrjam0
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[QUOTE="mrjam0"]

[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="Jandurin"]Yep. As long as you know exactly what you're doing, when to wait, what to order, what you need for the games you want to play, what mouse and keyboard to use, which brands are better, PC gaming is only twice as difficult as console gaming.As long as you're already an expert, it's almost similar, relative to how hard it is for a non-expert, in terms of difficulty.Vandalvideo

PC gamers didn't start out as experts. I built my first PC without any kind of formal training or experience with just a simple manual and nothing more. I didn't know any of the information you just said someone may need to know. PC gaming isn't astronomically more difficult than consoles. You have the option of building it yourself, which isn't hard, or the option of having someone build it for you. OMG ONE MORE STEP! TEH HORROR!

becasue BUILDING IT counts as one more step:roll:

No, having someone build it for you counts as one more step.

and having that person hold ur hand through updating and adding parts to ur pc

mmm hmmm :roll:

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#136 Cute_Red_Panda
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[QUOTE="Jandurin"]Oh, wait. Each time you buy a console, it always works with the games for that console? Wow, in your world, that's like negative steps.Vandalvideo
Ehhhhhh wrong. I had tons of problems getting BC to work with the PS3, despite the box claiming it was fully BC. (Prior to removal of emotion engine). As long as you have a modern rig, you can play all modern PC games. There are only three things you need to know to not screw up a rig. A) ZOMG electricity is bad........ Thats about it.

Box never claimed it was fully BC. Stop with the fabrications. They even had a list of games that werent b/c at the beginning of the PS3 launch.

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Step five should say: Enjoy for five minutes and get bored and go back to Team Fortress 2 which you've already invested 1000+ hours in but is still limitlessly more fun than anything on xbox/any shooter played with a gamepad. Merkaba-
Quake Team Fortress > all of these new crappy Team Fortresses.
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#138 mrjam0
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[QUOTE="mrjam0"]

[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="Jandurin"][QUOTE="Vandalvideo"] Its not like PCs are astronomically more complex or harder to use. People just THINK they are harder to use. Most PC things are fully automated now, and you're not going to get viruses unless you go to malicious sites or read anonymous e-mail. In that case, its the end user's fault.Merkaba-

Viruses aside, which is a difficult enough problem these days be they the end users fault or not (which I'm inclined to say, fault or not, it's still an obstacle), PCs ARE several times harder to put together and keep working than consoles. They ARE. Don't even try to argue it.

PCs require little to no upkeep as long as the end user isn't going to all kinds of malicious sites. I haven't had a SINGLE problem with my nearly 2 year old PC since I built it, not a single one. I don't even have any kind of heavy duty anti-viruses or spyware blockers. These things are exercises in tedium and are not required.

PCs require little to no upkeep...

im gonna stop here first. that's a lie, and ur not convincing ANYONE

I haven't had a SINGLE problem with my nearly 2 year old PC since I built it, not a single one. I don't even have any kind of heavy duty anti-viruses or spyware blockers. These things are exercises in tedium and are not required

speak for urself. there are millions who have THAT VERY PROBLEM. its mind bottleing that hermits try to convince people tht PC gaming takes close to, or on the same level of contribution as consoles.

let me break it down for u incase u haven't played a console in a while...

step one. buy the console

step two. buy the game

step three. hook it up to ur tv

step four. put the game in the drive

step five. enjoy

enlighten me if pc gaming is that simple

Step five should say: Enjoy for five minutes and get bored and go back to Team Fortress 2 which you've already invested 1000+ hours in but is still limitlessly more fun than anything on xbox/any shooter played with a gamepad.

ROFL!!!!!!! i thought we got rid of u. weve taken over this thread

that was THE WORST responce i have ever heard. words cannot describe it

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#139 billbradsky
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What about the fact that you have to buy an operating system. How about the need for a monitor and speakers. Or are those costs non-existent?
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#140 Merkaba-
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ROFL!!!!!!! i thought we got rid of u. weve taken over this thread

that was THE WORST responce i have ever heard. words cannot describe it

mrjam0

Obviously I struck a nerve with you. The truth hurts, doesn't it?

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#141 Hippopotymus
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Well excuse me for not wanting to spend the time to build a computer, I choose having a life rather than a computer.
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#142 ImOldGreg
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[QUOTE="Merkaba-"][QUOTE="mrjam0"]

[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="Jandurin"][QUOTE="Vandalvideo"] Its not like PCs are astronomically more complex or harder to use. People just THINK they are harder to use. Most PC things are fully automated now, and you're not going to get viruses unless you go to malicious sites or read anonymous e-mail. In that case, its the end user's fault.mrjam0

Viruses aside, which is a difficult enough problem these days be they the end users fault or not (which I'm inclined to say, fault or not, it's still an obstacle), PCs ARE several times harder to put together and keep working than consoles. They ARE. Don't even try to argue it.

PCs require little to no upkeep as long as the end user isn't going to all kinds of malicious sites. I haven't had a SINGLE problem with my nearly 2 year old PC since I built it, not a single one. I don't even have any kind of heavy duty anti-viruses or spyware blockers. These things are exercises in tedium and are not required.

PCs require little to no upkeep...

im gonna stop here first. that's a lie, and ur not convincing ANYONE

I haven't had a SINGLE problem with my nearly 2 year old PC since I built it, not a single one. I don't even have any kind of heavy duty anti-viruses or spyware blockers. These things are exercises in tedium and are not required

speak for urself. there are millions who have THAT VERY PROBLEM. its mind bottleing that hermits try to convince people tht PC gaming takes close to, or on the same level of contribution as consoles.

let me break it down for u incase u haven't played a console in a while...

step one. buy the console

step two. buy the game

step three. hook it up to ur tv

step four. put the game in the drive

step five. enjoy

enlighten me if pc gaming is that simple

Step five should say: Enjoy for five minutes and get bored and go back to Team Fortress 2 which you've already invested 1000+ hours in but is still limitlessly more fun than anything on xbox/any shooter played with a gamepad.

ROFL!!!!!!! i thought we got rid of u. weve taken over this thread

that was THE WORST responce i have ever heard. words cannot describe it

indeed, I think I just threw up alittle in my mouth...

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#143 beinss
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There are so many reasons that statement is false. First of all, I like playing in front of a TV. Especially a 64 inch HDTV. Secondly, there are some games on the 360 that you can't find on the PC. luigigreen

You can easily hook up your PC to a TV. And there may be some games but certainly not alot. (Im sure Halo 3 will move to Pc).

In response to the TC, im not sure why people buy 360s, i mean a console is a console but u can use the console controller on a PC. Free online, Free Mods, Better Graphics (comparable to the PS3), and no RRoD. However i avoid PC gaming because 1. i hate Windows. and 2. I dont want to deal with viruses and malware.

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#144 deactivated-5e836a855beb2
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In response to the TC, im not sure why people buy 360sbeinss
Ease of use. TC was correct.

Laziness.

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#145 Vandalvideo
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[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="Jandurin"]Oh, wait. Each time you buy a console, it always works with the games for that console? Wow, in your world, that's like negative steps.Cute_Red_Panda

Ehhhhhh wrong. I had tons of problems getting BC to work with the PS3, despite the box claiming it was fully BC. (Prior to removal of emotion engine). As long as you have a modern rig, you can play all modern PC games. There are only three things you need to know to not screw up a rig. A) ZOMG electricity is bad........ Thats about it.

Box never claimed it was fully BC. Stop with the fabrications. They even had a list of games that werent b/c at the beginning of the PS3 launch.

It claimed that it was backwards compatible on the box, and many times my games would freeze while I was playing them like SMT, which was on the list.
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#146 Vandalvideo
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and having that person hold ur hand through updating and adding parts to ur pc mrjam0
Once again, patches drivers and general updates are FULLY automated now.
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#147 Vandalvideo
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1. i hate Windows. and 2. I dont want to deal with viruses and malware.beinss
Then use Wine and avoid malicious sites.
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#148 ImOldGreg
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[QUOTE="mrjam0"]

ROFL!!!!!!! i thought we got rid of u. weve taken over this thread

that was THE WORST responce i have ever heard. words cannot describe it

Merkaba-

Obviously I struck a nerve with you. The truth hurts, doesn't it?

nope just looking at your post does

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#149 Cute_Red_Panda
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[QUOTE="Cute_Red_Panda"]

[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="Jandurin"]Oh, wait. Each time you buy a console, it always works with the games for that console? Wow, in your world, that's like negative steps.Vandalvideo

Ehhhhhh wrong. I had tons of problems getting BC to work with the PS3, despite the box claiming it was fully BC. (Prior to removal of emotion engine). As long as you have a modern rig, you can play all modern PC games. There are only three things you need to know to not screw up a rig. A) ZOMG electricity is bad........ Thats about it.

Box never claimed it was fully BC. Stop with the fabrications. They even had a list of games that werent b/c at the beginning of the PS3 launch.

It claimed that it was backwards compatible on the box, and many times my games would freeze while I was playing them like SMT, which was on the list.

If it was on the list, that means it wasn't compatible.

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#150 Vandalvideo
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If it was on the list, that means it wasn't compatible.Cute_Red_Panda
Sorry I misread your post. The fact of the matter was, that despite the box saying it was backwards compatible, many of the games that I attempted to play would either freeze during play or not work altogether. I had the same problem when I attempted to play some BC wii games. I bought Killer 7 expecting it to be fully BC and I discovered I needed a memory card and a GC controller. I spent the next hour and a half yelling at people in IRC about it not working.