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#1 horrowhip
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Back when Crysis came out Gametrailers said they spent "$5000 upgrading their PC and it still couldn't run Crysis on High"

Any Hermit who had Crysis knew GT was either incompetent or lying.

Well... now the truth comes out.

http://www.gametrailers.com/player/32574.html

http://www.gametrailers.com/player/32572.html

Compare what you see there to IGN's screenshots of the PC version of Assassin's Creed.

Assassin's Creed: Director's Cut Edition Screenshot

Assassin's Creed: Director's Cut Edition Picture

Assassin's Creed: Director's Cut Edition Screenshot

Notice something wrong with GT's videos?

They don't have shadows. None at all. If GT thinks they can get away with lying through their teeth and making stuff up to lower scores on a game then they have another thing coming.

And to Lemmings/Cows who argued with me about it, THIS is why I said GT is complete **** for PC reviews. They clearly don't give a **** about the PC and lying to the PC users on their website doesn't worry them at all.

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#2 cobrax25
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wooh, the PC version of assasins creed has way more collor.
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#4 cobrax25
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Crysis got 8.8 on GT, so nice : )wok7

and it got shooter GOTY here.

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#5 chikenfriedrice
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wooh, the PC version of assasins creed has way more collor.cobrax25

yeah it does...looks pretty sweet (from the IGN pics)...too bad the game was so boring

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#6 BioShockOwnz
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Damn, what kind of rig is GameTrailer's running that gameplay from?:? It looks awful. They really have to upgrade their hardware. I love Assassin's Creed, so I'm pretty excited to play it on PC. I hope Ubisoft doesn't screw it up.
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#8 DireToad
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It's a known fact that GT and PC don't compute.
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#9 horrowhip
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Crysis got 8.8 on GT, so nice : )

LoL whiny Hermits, stick to places that only do PC's so their opinions can be completely biased when its comes to Gaming.

wok7

yeah but their ONLY reason for lowering the score a full 1.2 points was because "It can't run on anything" despite the fact that they didn't even try.

Sorry but GT is complete BS.

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#10 Ragnarok1051
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Crysis got 8.8 on GT, so nice : )

LoL whiny Hermits, stick to places that only do PC's so their opinions can be completely biased when its comes to Gaming.

wok7

Maybe it got an 8.8 because they couldn't figure out if PC could do HD.

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#11 horrowhip
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Damn, what kind of rig is GameTrailer's running that gameplay from?:? It looks awful. They really have to upgrade their hardware. I love Assassin's Creed, so I'm pretty excited to play it on PC. I hope Ubisoft doesn't screw it up.BioShockOwnz

They said they upgrade for Crysis on two occassions. Once before it came out and they supposedly upgraded to an 8600 GT(which is crap and proves how dumb they are) and then supposedly(although I just proved they lied) they upgraded to a Core 2 Quad, 4 GB of RAM and an 8800 GTX. And even then "they could only run on medium"

Sorry but they lied through their freaking teeth and I can't do anything but say I told you so to everyone who didn't believe me when I said GT was lying.

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#12 SonicLucas
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PC gaming (besides MMO's to me, I just cant see the point.) when my 360 got the RRoD I thought about PC gaming (since I hAD no good wii games yet) THANKFULLY my friend snapped me out of it.
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#13 horrowhip
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Crysis got 8.8 on GT, so nice : )

LoL whiny Hermits, stick to places that only do PC's so their opinions can be completely biased when its comes to Gaming.

wok7

yeah cause IGN, GS, Eurogamer and so many other places only do PC :roll:

I just don't deal with places that put the PC on a complete backburner and ignore EVERY game that comes out for it minus one or two. Meanwhile they review everything that comes onto consoles...

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#14 horrowhip
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PC gaming (besides MMO's to me, I just cant see the point.) when my 360 got the RRoD I thought about PC gaming (since I hAD no good wii games yet) THANKFULLY my friend snapped me out of it.SonicLucas

why?

the PC has all the best games...

And most versions of games are better on PC.

You have your choice of control scheme, you have the best graphics, you have user content, the PC is great...

So why would your friend "snap you out of it."

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#15 Blommen
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Damn AC looks fine on pc:shock:
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I see nothing wrong with GT.
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#17 horrowhip
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I see nothing wrong with GT.Willy105

really... it isn't completely obvious comparing their screenshots to the ones that IGN took using their SECONDARY PC(first one had some bug that made the game not run on it) which had a 3.4 GHz Pentium 4 CPU, 512 MB Radeon X1900, and 2 GB of RAM that GT is WAY behind on the graphics.

And they specifically told everyone that they upgraded to top of the line for their Crysis review with an 8800, Quad Core and 4GB of RAM.

Clearly... GT lied.

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#18 SSCyborg
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Crysis got 8.8 on GT, so nice : )

LoL whiny Hermits, stick to places that only do PC's so their opinions can be completely biased when its comes to Gaming.

wok7

What I would like to know is why AC can't run on their computers. I thought PC's can't do HD.

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#19 shadow_hosi
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Crysis got 8.8 on GT, so nice : )

LoL whiny Hermits, stick to places that only do PC's so their opinions can be completely biased when its comes to Gaming.

wok7

my opinion is bias? and yours is purley neutral right?

unlike you wok. i play more than console games. i have a wii ds x360 high end pc. i have every console/handneld nintendo has made as well as xbox and ps1/2. i am far from biased. and the pc does indeed have higehr standards when it comes to reviews. even if they arent in HD amirite?

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#20 shadow_hosi
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[QUOTE="wok7"]

Crysis got 8.8 on GT, so nice : )

LoL whiny Hermits, stick to places that only do PC's so their opinions can be completely biased when its comes to Gaming.

SSCyborg

What I would like to know is why AC can't run on their computers. I thought PC's can't do HD.

awww u beat me to it :(

yeah whats with their rig? i can run crysis in very high and get very-very-very good framerate except for a few parts where its slowdown (i can deal with it cus its so pretty) but they struggle lesser games >_>

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#21 SSCyborg
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[QUOTE="SSCyborg"][QUOTE="wok7"]

Crysis got 8.8 on GT, so nice : )

LoL whiny Hermits, stick to places that only do PC's so their opinions can be completely biased when its comes to Gaming.

shadow_hosi

What I would like to know is why AC can't run on their computers. I thought PC's can't do HD.

awww u beat me to it :(

yeah whats with their rig? i can run crysis in very high and get very-very-very good framerate except for a few parts where its slowdown (i can deal with it cus its so pretty) but they struggle lesser games >_>

:P I'm quick.

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#22 shadow_hosi
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:P I'm quick.

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your a crafty lil bugger aint ya :P

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Wow, if you don't like them that much why do you go back to dig into what you obviously think is a load of "BS"? I rarely return to sites I don't trust, I have no need and better things to do with my time.

Seriously they focus on console games, and in that arena they do just fine. They obviously don't care for PC games, but you know there are plenty of other sites that do, and I'm sure they got thier hands full with the systems they do focus on anyway.

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#24 SSCyborg
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[QUOTE="SSCyborg"]

:P I'm quick.

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#25 Danm_999
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Seriously they focus on console games, and in that arena they do just fine. They obviously don't care for PC games, but you know there are plenty of other sites that do, and I'm sure they got thier hands full with the systems they do focus on anyway.

-RPGamer-

Which is fine if the charge here was incompetance. If they don't want to focus on the PC, don't review games for it.

Don't blatently lie and mislead consumers. There is no defense for this.

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#26 shadow_hosi
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[QUOTE="-RPGamer-"]

Seriously they focus on console games, and in that arena they do just fine. They obviously don't care for PC games, but you know there are plenty of other sites that do, and I'm sure they got thier hands full with the systems they do focus on anyway.

Danm_999

Which is fine if the charge here was incompetance. If they don't want to focus on the PC, don't review games for it.

Don't blatently lie and mislead consumers. There is no defense for this.

i love your sig

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#27 -RPGamer-
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[QUOTE="-RPGamer-"]

Seriously they focus on console games, and in that arena they do just fine. They obviously don't care for PC games, but you know there are plenty of other sites that do, and I'm sure they got thier hands full with the systems they do focus on anyway.

Danm_999

Which is fine if the charge here was incompetance. If they don't want to focus on the PC, don't review games for it.

Don't blatently lie and mislead consumers. There is no defense for this.

And you don't think many sites/publications don't carry similar agenda, lies etc?

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#28 Dystopian-X
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This reminds me AC for PC is almost here. Nice.
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#29 renger6002
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[QUOTE="wok7"]

Crysis got 8.8 on GT, so nice : )

LoL whiny Hermits, stick to places that only do PC's so their opinions can be completely biased when its comes to Gaming.

Ragnarok1051

Maybe it got an 8.8 because they couldn't figure out if PC could do HD.

ouch, that was uncalled for.

cheap shot.

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#30 Danm_999
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[QUOTE="Danm_999"][QUOTE="-RPGamer-"]

Seriously they focus on console games, and in that arena they do just fine. They obviously don't care for PC games, but you know there are plenty of other sites that do, and I'm sure they got thier hands full with the systems they do focus on anyway.

-RPGamer-

Which is fine if the charge here was incompetance. If they don't want to focus on the PC, don't review games for it.

Don't blatently lie and mislead consumers. There is no defense for this.

And you don't think many sites/publications don't carry similar agenda, lies etc?

Probably, but what's that got to do with any of this? Some other review sites might editorialize, but it's a rare thing to see people outright lying about the type of system their using to discourage people from buying a game.

And those agendas usually have economic motives. GT probably rated this one badly because they don't like PC games. There's really no other explanation.

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#31 kenshinhimura16
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My PC costed me 1.5k which if I remove the import taxes to my country should be near 1k in the US and I can run Crysis on HIGH. But not V.High. BTW, I have a DC of 2.33, 2G RAM and 8800GTS gfx Nvidia card at 512 mb.
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Probably, but what's that got to do with any of this? Some other review sites might editorialize, but it's a rare thing to see people outright lying about the type of system their using to discourage people from buying a game.

And those agendas usually have economic motives. GT probably rated this one badly because they don't like PC games. There's really no other explanation.

Danm_999

What does common mentality have to do with this thread? Oh I don't know how about everything? And is it rare to see them out right lie, or rare to catch them doing so? My wild stab in the dark for a guess would be the latter.

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#33 Hoobinator
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They got outed.

*Smokes cigar*

I love it when liars and those blatantly misleading peopple get shown up.

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#34 Danm_999
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What does common mentality have to do with this thread? Oh I don't know how about everything? -RPGamer-

Very little. See, intent is a big issue here.

Let's take the whole Kane and Lynch scandal. The buzz would be Jeff was fired for not bowing to Eidos as per their agreement with GameSpot. That's bad, transparent and pretty straightforward in terms of motivation.

GT on the other hand decided to tell everyone they'd bought a $5000 PC and were having immense difficulty running Crysis. In this, there is no accountability process, no clear motive and if it had not been for their severe stupidity, it'd never have been found out.

And what does this have to do with anything anyway? Are you saying it's acceptable for them to lie because others do it too? That we should just move on?

Crap like this doesn't just obscure the truth from we consumers, it actually takes us further away from the truth, because it takes us down the path of a lie.

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#35 -RPGamer-
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[QUOTE="-RPGamer-"]

What does common mentality have to do with this thread? Oh I don't know how about everything? Danm_999

Very little. See, intent is a big issue here.

Let's take the whole Kane and Lynch scandal. The buzz would be Jeff was fired for not bowing to Eidos as per their agreement with GameSpot. That's bad, transparent and pretty straightforward in terms of motivation.

GT on the other hand decided to tell everyone they'd bought a $5000 PC and were having immense difficulty running Crysis. In this, there is no accountability process, no clear motive and if it had not been for their severe stupidity, it'd never have been found out.

And what does this have to do with anything anyway? Are you saying it's acceptable for them to lie because others do it too? That we should just move on?

Crap like this doesn't just obscure the truth from we consumers, it actually takes us further away from the truth, because it takes us down the path of a lie.

Yeah, I'm pretty much saying move on, so they don't care for PC gaming it's not like this is something new (I clearly recall hermits getting their panties in a twist when it first got reviewed). I'm not saying it's ok, I'm saying nothing you complain about right here is going to stop them from doing as they please. If you want to accomplish anything from this redundant rant, take it to their site where at least you might be heard by the actual people of the site.

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#36 Dante2710
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hermits complaining about the score? meh.......u should be complaining about AC`s poor optimization for pc.....not a goddamn score
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#37 ice144
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[QUOTE="Danm_999"][QUOTE="-RPGamer-"]

What does common mentality have to do with this thread? Oh I don't know how about everything? -RPGamer-

Very little. See, intent is a big issue here.

Let's take the whole Kane and Lynch scandal. The buzz would be Jeff was fired for not bowing to Eidos as per their agreement with GameSpot. That's bad, transparent and pretty straightforward in terms of motivation.

GT on the other hand decided to tell everyone they'd bought a $5000 PC and were having immense difficulty running Crysis. In this, there is no accountability process, no clear motive and if it had not been for their severe stupidity, it'd never have been found out.

And what does this have to do with anything anyway? Are you saying it's acceptable for them to lie because others do it too? That we should just move on?

Crap like this doesn't just obscure the truth from we consumers, it actually takes us further away from the truth, because it takes us down the path of a lie.

Yeah, I'm pretty much saying move on, so they don't care for PC gaming it's not like this is something new (I clearly recall hermits getting their panties in a twist when it first got reviewed). I'm not saying it's ok, I'm saying nothing you complain about right here is going to stop them from doing as they please. If you want to accomplish anything from this redundant rant, take it to their site where at least you might be heard by the actual people of the site.

What is this? An intellectual debate between two people? Quick, delete your posts before the trolls come!

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GT on the other hand decided to tell everyone they'd bought a $5000 PC and were having immense difficulty running Crysis. In this, there is no accountability process, no clear motive and if it had not been for their severe stupidity, it'd never have been found out.

And what does this have to do with anything anyway? Are you saying it's acceptable for them to lie because others do it too? That we should just move on?

Crap like this doesn't just obscure the truth from we consumers, it actually takes us further away from the truth, because it takes us down the path of a lie.

Danm_999

I have a couple questions.

When did GT say that they spent $5000 upgrading their PC to play Crysis? A link would be nice, but if you could even tell me where to look (one of their weekly shows, or a Crysis video, etc.), I'll try to find it myself.

Even if they did do a massive PC upgrade, what's to say that it's their only PC that they use or that they were even using their best rig to get the video they posted? Or that they weren't using an older build of the game than IGN had that didn't have shadows enabled? Or there wasn't a glitch with the different software they used for the capture that necessitated turning shadows off?

How do two videos of an unfinished game prove they don't have a top of the line PC?

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#39 killab2oo5
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[QUOTE="-RPGamer-"][QUOTE="Danm_999"][QUOTE="-RPGamer-"]

Seriously they focus on console games, and in that arena they do just fine. They obviously don't care for PC games, but you know there are plenty of other sites that do, and I'm sure they got thier hands full with the systems they do focus on anyway.

Danm_999

Which is fine if the charge here was incompetance. If they don't want to focus on the PC, don't review games for it.

Don't blatently lie and mislead consumers. There is no defense for this.

And you don't think many sites/publications don't carry similar agenda, lies etc?

Probably, but what's that got to do with any of this? Some other review sites might editorialize, but it's a rare thing to see people outright lying about the type of system their using to discourage people from buying a game.

And those agendas usually have economic motives. GT probably rated this one badly because they don't like PC games. There's really no other explanation.

o.o They gave Crysis an 8.8...in my eyes thats considered great.I'm pretty sure they didn't deduct those points from the game just because of the requirements.
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#40 SimpJee
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[QUOTE="Willy105"]I see nothing wrong with GT.horrowhip

really... it isn't completely obvious comparing their screenshots to the ones that IGN took using their SECONDARY PC(first one had some bug that made the game not run on it) which had a 3.4 GHz Pentium 4 CPU, 512 MB Radeon X1900, and 2 GB of RAM that GT is WAY behind on the graphics.

And they specifically told everyone that they upgraded to top of the line for their Crysis review with an 8800, Quad Core and 4GB of RAM.

Clearly... GT lied.

ALSO, they rated Kane and Lynch pretty high which leads me to believe their reviews are all bought anyway :P

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#41 Nagidar
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[QUOTE="wok7"]

Crysis got 8.8 on GT, so nice : )

LoL whiny Hermits, stick to places that only do PC's so their opinions can be completely biased when its comes to Gaming.

Ragnarok1051

Maybe it got an 8.8 because they couldn't figure out if PC could do HD.

Oh snap! Thats GOTTA hurt. :lol:

Wok is friggin legendary around here. :lol:

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#42 r_gam3
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it just goes to show PC gaming generally is lame. on consoles the game is judged not the hardware. PC gaming, so needs to die.
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#43 leonhead
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About the 5000-6000 gaming PC they could be in Australia, but then it should cost like 3000 at most...hmm Maybe indonesia?
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#44 mingo123
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that game looks so good.....but yeh GT doesnt give a F about pc :D
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#46 Zeliard9
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it just goes to show PC gaming generally is lame. on consoles the game is judged not the hardware. PC gaming, so needs to die.r_gam3

The hardware in consoles isn't judged because it's unified and two years behind in technology.

The hardware is judged when it comes to the PC, because if you're a videogame website aiming to be all-encompassing and cover the PC as well, then you may want to make sure you have a rig that's up-to-date enough to be able to play Assassin's Creed with shadows "on".

It's the simple things.

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#47 horrowhip
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hermits complaining about the score? meh.......u should be complaining about AC`s poor optimization for pc.....not a goddamn scoreDante2710

IGN and IGN AU have been quoted saying the game runs really well and is well optimized.

IGN said they were able to max it with a X1900XT, Pentium 4 3.4 GHz and 2GB of RAM. Their CPU was below recommended specs and they still got playable framerates on the highest settings.

IGN AU said that it ran at a MUCH smoother framerate than the console versions, enough for it to be completely obvious.

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I think it depends on what your definitions are for "high" or "max" settings. According to 1up, not even the newest graphics cards coming out are capable of running Crysis completely maxed out.

Yet if you listen to hermits here, they all say they have the 8800 GT and a $200 rig and claim they run Crysis on max.

So who do you believe?

Really....who cares?

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#50 ChinoJamesKeene
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I think it depends on what your definitions are for "high" or "max" settings. According to 1up, not even the newest graphics cards coming out are capable of running Crysis completely maxed out.

Yet if you listen to hermits here, they all say they have the 8800 GT and a $200 rig and claim they run Crysis on max.

So who do you believe?

Really....who cares?

ZIMdoom

Never heard any hermit here claiming they play Crysis on Ultra Settings at high res with a 8800GT. It just not doable atm. alot of poeple play on high to medium though.