PS Vita seems to be really fast in terms of multitasking

Thanks to all that ram built into the handheld, the PS Vita seems to be a really fast piece of machinery that seems to set up the LiveArea UI and play other games as well. Here's a video of the demonstration:

http://www.allgamesbeta.com/2011/11/playstation-vita-games-hands-on.html

He's getting the screen dirty.

Wow it get's me excited even though i'm not going to buy it for a while :P Never owned a PsP I'd say now it's the best time to enjoy all those games I've never played.

He's getting the screen dirty.

RandomWinner

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He's getting the screen dirty.

e_stone001

I think thats job for 3rd parties ;] thru i hope its easy to clean it like iPhone

RIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIDDDDDDDDDGGGGGGGGGGGGGGEEEEEEEEEEEEE RACER!!!

Yea it seems pretty speedy

i wonder will it have in game music?

also, will the Vitaload times be that fast?

Nice... I hear that the Vita is easy to develop for unlike the PS3.Banjo_Kongfooie

i wonder will it have in game music?PSP107

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He's getting the screen dirty.

ShadowriverUB

I think thats job for 3rd parties ;] thru i hope its easy to clean it like iPhone

There's no reason to not buy a PS Vita. The US currency is worth basically nothing right now. $250 is a serious bargain.

What's so impressive about that video? What I find far more impressive is the guts it took for Sony to price their memory cards like they did.

My phone has the same amount of ram as the vita. This thing is severely overrated in terms of power,it is using smartphone specs, if I'm not mistaken, ps3>Smartphones by a lot in processing power.Kaszilla

[QUOTE="Kaszilla"]My phone has the same amount of ram as the vita. This thing is severely overrated in terms of power,it is using smartphone specs, if I'm not mistaken, ps3>Smartphones by a lot in processing power.thatisfalse

My phone has the same amount of ram as the vita. This thing is severely overrated in terms of power,it is using smartphone specs, if I'm not mistaken, ps3>Smartphones by a lot in processing power.Kaszilla

RAM =/= Power but "Possibilities in same time", Phone have ton of services that game console don't need and using of RAM, not to mantion lot of application made for are made to run on older phones with lower RAM, specially if you talking about Android (that it don't have much games as iPhone which have 2 lines of devices)

Needs more Harvest Moon. Then i'm sold.

Needs more Harvest Moon. Then i'm sold.

D4W1L4H

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Needs more Harvest Moon. Then i'm sold.

e_stone001

[QUOTE="e_stone001"][QUOTE="D4W1L4H"]

Needs more Harvest Moon. Then i'm sold.

D4W1L4H

rear touchscreen is not much effective for pointing as front touch screen since it's hard to point something from the rer with one try, on other hand rear touch pad is good for gesture detecting without covering th screen

Looks very nice, I havnt seen any games so far that I'd want for it ( uncharted 3 left a bad taste in my mouth ) but the system is looking killer.

What's so impressive about that video? What I find far more impressive is the guts it took for Sony to price their memory cards like they did.

Giant_Panda

Thanks to all that ram built into the handheld, the PS Vita seems to be a really fast piece of machinery that seems to set up the LiveArea UI and play other games as well. Here's a video of the demonstration:

http://www.allgamesbeta.com/2011/11/playstation-vita-games-hands-on.html

Needs more Harvest Moon. Then i'm sold.

D4W1L4H

Rune Factory > Harvest moon ~

Just saying :cool:

[QUOTE="thatisfalse"][QUOTE="Kaszilla"]My phone has the same amount of ram as the vita. This thing is severely overrated in terms of power,it is using smartphone specs, if I'm not mistaken, ps3>Smartphones by a lot in processing power.e_stone001

[QUOTE="e_stone001"][QUOTE="thatisfalse"]the Vita is a dedicated gaming device. even if a smartphone was as powerful as the Vita, spec for spec, it still wouldn't come close to matching it gaming wise. btw, I follow smartphone news pretty closely, I don't think we're getting a 4 core phone anytime soon, a year and a half is my guess.ronvalencia

[QUOTE="ronvalencia"][QUOTE="e_stone001"] Exactly. Smartphones are getting popular, but as for gaming wise, the Vita dominates it because more hardcore gamers will buy a dedicated device rather than a casual device for ppl that just wanna play Angry Birds.e_stone001

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Needs more Harvest Moon. Then i'm sold.

Joedgabe

Rune Factory = Harvest moon ~

Just saying :cool:

Fixed, They're both excellent games.

I'm very excited about it even though I'm not sure if I'll get it at launch.

There's no reason to not buy a PS Vita. The US currency is worth basically nothing right now. $250 is a serious bargain.

DerpyMcDerp

Counter argument (and just my opinion, not fact) I have no reason to since I'd rather play the IPs on the Vita on my PS3 since they, at the moment, don't differ enough from recent console installments (LBP2 just came out this past year, UC3, KZ3) and overall I wish it had more unique titles worth the high admission price ($330-$350 with tax after one game and a memory card) in addition to the fact that I can't fit a device of the Vita's size anywhere to travel with, and that the multmedia functions are far better, and easier to use, on my smartphone.

This argument can be made against the 3DS as well to some extent.

I really don't think US consumers are going to respond very well to the Vita post-launch month/hype. Just IMO.

[QUOTE="thatisfalse"][QUOTE="Kaszilla"]My phone has the same amount of ram as the vita. This thing is severely overrated in terms of power,it is using smartphone specs, if I'm not mistaken, ps3>Smartphones by a lot in processing power.e_stone001

To be fair, pretty much all casual and hardcore gamers didn't pick the PSP as their main dedicated handheld gaming device, so the Vita has a huge uphill battle against the 3DS, not smartphones.

There's no reason to not buy a PS Vita. The US currency is worth basically nothing right now. $250 is a serious bargain.

DerpyMcDerp

15 trillion dollar debt :o I'd say spend your money while it still holds the illusion of value, who knows maybe by next year it will be 50 dollars to a yen. I'm so moving out of the U.S before that happens :| wonder if i'll find a future in south america.

[QUOTE="Kaszilla"]My phone has the same amount of ram as the vita. This thing is severely overrated in terms of power,it is using smartphone specs, if I'm not mistaken, ps3>Smartphones by a lot in processing power.thatisfalse

[QUOTE="e_stone001"][QUOTE="thatisfalse"]the Vita is a dedicated gaming device. even if a smartphone was as powerful as the Vita, spec for spec, it still wouldn't come close to matching it gaming wise. btw, I follow smartphone news pretty closely, I don't think we're getting a 4 core phone anytime soon, a year and a half is my guess.bonesawisready5

To be fair, pretty much all casual and hardcore gamers didn't pick the PSP as their main dedicated handheld gaming device, so the Vita has a huge uphill battle against the 3DS, not smartphones.

What's so impressive about that video? What I find far more impressive is the guts it took for Sony to price their memory cards like they did.

Giant_Panda

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[QUOTE="e_stone001"] Exactly. Smartphones are getting popular, but as for gaming wise, the Vita dominates it because more hardcore gamers will buy a dedicated device rather than a casual device for ppl that just wanna play Angry Birds.e_stone001

To be fair, pretty much all casual and hardcore gamers didn't pick the PSP as their main dedicated handheld gaming device, so the Vita has a huge uphill battle against the 3DS, not smartphones.

yea but the really good, popular developers and publishers will never commit fully to $5 or less apps.

I mean, look at how much profit Nintendo just made off Super Mario 3D Land. It has sold 300k in NA in about one week, and about two weeks in Japan netted 450k. That's 750k in a short time. That is nearly $30 million. Considering almost all 3DS game budgets are no more than $2 million, and that isn't even counting Europe, why would you ever invest in a cheap app when you can push these units?

I know indie devs can't, but shouldn't they want to attain such lofty goals? I'm sure thatgamecompany, Q-Games, are happy Sony has helped them sell so well on PSN/PSP/PS3

I mean, compare the profits between Super Street Fighter IV on iOS and 3DS, Resident Evil iOS games and Resident Evil on 3DS, and its no wonder Capcom is supporting the 3DS like nuts.

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What's so impressive about that video? What I find far more impressive is the guts it took for Sony to price their memory cards like they did.

tormentos

This shouldn't be a surprise. Sony forces a new format of some type on us every gen

PS1 used CDs, PS2 used DVDs, PS3 used BRs, PSP with Memory Stick Duo and UMD, PSP go with a different Memory Stick Duo

Sometimes this works out for us, other times it is a pain.

They wanted all these formats to become standard in other markets like computers, cameras, tvs, etc.

[QUOTE="e_stone001"][QUOTE="bonesawisready5"]

To be fair, pretty much all casual and hardcore gamers didn't pick the PSP as their main dedicated handheld gaming device, so the Vita has a huge uphill battle against the 3DS, not smartphones.

bonesawisready5

yea but the really good, popular developers and publishers will never commit fully to $5 or less apps.

I mean, look at how much profit Nintendo just made off Super Mario 3D Land. It has sold 300k in NA in about one week, and about two weeks in Japan netted 450k. That's 750k in a short time. That is nearly $30 million. Considering almost all 3DS game budgets are no more than $2 million, and that isn't even counting Europe, why would you ever invest in a cheap app when you can push these units?

I know indie devs can't, but shouldn't they want to attain such lofty goals? I'm sure thatgamecompany, Q-Games, are happy Sony has helped them sell so well on PSN/PSP/PS3

I mean, compare the profits between Super Street Fighter IV on iOS and 3DS, Resident Evil iOS games and Resident Evil on 3DS, and its no wonder Capcom is supporting the 3DS like nuts.

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[QUOTE="e_stone001"] True, but smartphones are actually picking up and sales are spreading rapidly. That's why more developers are also going mobile these days to get some of the market.MFDOOM1983

yea but the really good, popular developers and publishers will never commit fully to $5 or less apps.

I mean, look at how much profit Nintendo just made off Super Mario 3D Land. It has sold 300k in NA in about one week, and about two weeks in Japan netted 450k. That's 750k in a short time. That is nearly $30 million. Considering almost all 3DS game budgets are no more than $2 million, and that isn't even counting Europe, why would you ever invest in a cheap app when you can push these units?

I know indie devs can't, but shouldn't they want to attain such lofty goals? I'm sure thatgamecompany, Q-Games, are happy Sony has helped them sell so well on PSN/PSP/PS3

I mean, compare the profits between Super Street Fighter IV on iOS and 3DS, Resident Evil iOS games and Resident Evil on 3DS, and its no wonder Capcom is supporting the 3DS like nuts.

You're comparing 100,000 games and apps and the revenue they create (some are ad supported too, something handheld games can't do) to like, console libraries of 100-500 titles total?

I'm guessing you're using that old article showing mobile games made more money than DS/PSP from a month ago, right? Its a small gap, like $500 million. Oh and by the way, that doesn't include 3DS software at all, nor does it include the holidays where Nintendo titles sell best, or anything from the Vita Japan launch.

That doesn't include $64 million from Ocarina of Time 3D, nor does it include about $50-$100 million more from other games without even mentioning the $40 million-$50 million Nintendo made in two weeks with Super Mario 3D Land, or the $50-$100 million Mario Kart 7 will likely make before 2011 is over. (and $20-$30 million from Star Fox)

So, like 4 Nintendo titles on the 3DS alone will likely close that gap of Android/iOS making $500 million more than DS/PSP. That study didn't include anything 3DS or Vita, the markets are shifting to a new generation. Of course PSP and DS software sales would be lower. The only reason you have $1.9 billion in revenue on software on smartphones is because there are 30,567 developers releasing cheap games all getting a small piece of the pie.

Whereas you have about 100-500 developers getting even bigger pies altogether on the Vita and 3DS.

And if you're talking about this http://www.neowin.net/news/mobile-phone-gaming-makes-more-money-than-portable-consoles then I will correct you that that study DOES NOT include anything from the 3DS or Vita. Its much closer than that, infact I'd say it will favor DS/PSP/3DS/Vita before years end, and in 2012 I'm sure it will be back in Sony/Nintendo's favor since they are simply starting a new gen

[QUOTE="MFDOOM1983"][QUOTE="bonesawisready5"]

yea but the really good, popular developers and publishers will never commit fully to $5 or less apps.

I mean, look at how much profit Nintendo just made off Super Mario 3D Land. It has sold 300k in NA in about one week, and about two weeks in Japan netted 450k. That's 750k in a short time. That is nearly $30 million. Considering almost all 3DS game budgets are no more than $2 million, and that isn't even counting Europe, why would you ever invest in a cheap app when you can push these units?

I know indie devs can't, but shouldn't they want to attain such lofty goals? I'm sure thatgamecompany, Q-Games, are happy Sony has helped them sell so well on PSN/PSP/PS3

I mean, compare the profits between Super Street Fighter IV on iOS and 3DS, Resident Evil iOS games and Resident Evil on 3DS, and its no wonder Capcom is supporting the 3DS like nuts.

bonesawisready5

You're comparing 100,000 games and apps and the revenue they create (some are ad supported too, something handheld games can't do) to like, console libraries of 100-500 titles total?

I'm guessing you're using that old article showing mobile games made more money than DS/PSP from a month ago, right? Its a small gap, like $500 million. Oh and by the way, that doesn't include 3DS software at all, nor does it include the holidays where Nintendo titles sell best, or anything from the Vita Japan launch.

That doesn't include $64 million from Ocarina of Time 3D, nor does it include about $50-$100 million more from other games without even mentioning the $40 million-$50 million Nintendo made in two weeks with Super Mario 3D Land, or the $50-$100 million Mario Kart 7 will likely make before 2011 is over. (and $20-$30 million from Star Fox)

So, like 4 Nintendo titles on the 3DS alone will likely close that gap of Android/iOS making $500 million more than DS/PSP. That study didn't include anything 3DS or Vita, the markets are shifting to a new generation. Of course PSP and DS software sales would be lower. The only reason you have $1.9 billion in revenue on software on smartphones is because there are 30,567 developers releasing cheap games all getting a small piece of the pie.

Whereas you have about 100-500 developers getting even bigger pies altogether on the Vita and 3DS.

And if you're talking about this http://www.neowin.net/news/mobile-phone-gaming-makes-more-money-than-portable-consoles then I will correct you that that study DOES NOT include anything from the 3DS or Vita. Its much closer than that, infact I'd say it will favor DS/PSP/3DS/Vita before years end, and in 2012 I'm sure it will be back in Sony/Nintendo's favor since they are simply starting a new gen

i see, reason why PC gaming DOOMED is becouse market populated with F2P, Flash game and Facebook game...

...is it?

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[QUOTE="MFDOOM1983"]Mobile games brought in more revenue than PSP, ds and 3ds this year(not including November sales). If you put a good game on ios chances are that you'll succeed. Crappy versions of console games from capcom is not how you judge the space.MFDOOM1983

You're comparing 100,000 games and apps and the revenue they create (some are ad supported too, something handheld games can't do) to like, console libraries of 100-500 titles total?

I'm guessing you're using that old article showing mobile games made more money than DS/PSP from a month ago, right? Its a small gap, like $500 million. Oh and by the way, that doesn't include 3DS software at all, nor does it include the holidays where Nintendo titles sell best, or anything from the Vita Japan launch.

That doesn't include $64 million from Ocarina of Time 3D, nor does it include about $50-$100 million more from other games without even mentioning the $40 million-$50 million Nintendo made in two weeks with Super Mario 3D Land, or the $50-$100 million Mario Kart 7 will likely make before 2011 is over. (and $20-$30 million from Star Fox)

So, like 4 Nintendo titles on the 3DS alone will likely close that gap of Android/iOS making $500 million more than DS/PSP. That study didn't include anything 3DS or Vita, the markets are shifting to a new generation. Of course PSP and DS software sales would be lower. The only reason you have $1.9 billion in revenue on software on smartphones is because there are 30,567 developers releasing cheap games all getting a small piece of the pie.

Whereas you have about 100-500 developers getting even bigger pies altogether on the Vita and 3DS.

And if you're talking about this http://www.neowin.net/news/mobile-phone-gaming-makes-more-money-than-portable-consoles then I will correct you that that study DOES NOT include anything from the 3DS or Vita. Its much closer than that, infact I'd say it will favor DS/PSP/3DS/Vita before years end, and in 2012 I'm sure it will be back in Sony/Nintendo's favor since they are simply starting a new gen

Two years ago the PSP fell off the face of the earth in NA/EU and died a slow painful death at retail with a terrible revision (PSP Go) and people were already plotting Nintendo's next move as 2009/2010 the DS starting looking long in the tooth.

2010 especially was a transition year just like this one. I'm saying that if 4 Nintendo games for the 3DS make up that $500 million difference, then adding in all Vita and other games for the 3DS should make it more in favor of 3DS/DS/PSP/Vita

Talk to me when Vita/3DS are in their prime in late 2012, or all of 2013 and we'll see how its going then. I think mobile phones have got a bigger cut, yes. But I wouldn't be surprised to see it go back to 65% or 70% in favor of 3DS/Vita after 2013. Will it go back to 80%? Probably not. I'm sure you could make the same argument for FB games and flash gaming killing off PC gaming, but they co-exist