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#1 Spartan070
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People keep calling the PS1 or the PS2 the best console ever.  They are far from the top of that list.  People need to realize that the having the best library of games =/= being the best console.  I can understand it being the best choice but that doesn't make it the best console.  That's like saying the Toyota Camry is the best car ever.  I'm not trying to nit-pick, I just wish that someone would say it has the best library instead of making it sound like some technical achievement.  May to celebrate mediocrity....
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how can you rate consoles?
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The best console as far as games go will always be the SNES. The amount of quality games compared to crap was just awesome.
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#4 Big_Greg
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People keep calling the PS1 or the PS2 the best console ever.  They are far from the top of that list.  People need to realize that the having the best library of games =/= being the best console.  I can understand it being the best choice but that doesn't make it the best console.  That's like saying the Toyota Camry is the best car ever.  I'm not trying to nit-pick, I just wish that someone would say it has the best library instead of making it sound like some technical achievement.  May to celebrate mediocrity....Spartan070

If a console has the best library then that means it is the best console. If toyota does what its supposed to do better than any other motor company than that makes it the best. Your logic isn't making any sense.

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#5 Spartan070
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how can you rate consoles?hyruledweller
By their hardware, not their software.
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#6 _LiquidFlame_
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PS2 might be, 2400 game titles I mean really.
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#7 Big_Greg
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[QUOTE="hyruledweller"]how can you rate consoles?Spartan070
By their hardware, not their software.

You can rate it by its software also. I believe part of what you're saying is right.

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PS2 is the best because it has the best library. Want to get technical? PS2 had add-on no system before it had. It also had longer gameplay (not saying better). PS2 beat every console in every catergory you can think of. It's unanimous that PS2 is the best system to date.
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#9 Spartan070
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If a console has the best library then that means it is the best console. If toyota does what its supposed to do better than any other motor company than that makes it the best. Your logic isn't making any sense.

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So if the N-Gage and the GBA magically switched libraries the N-Gage would be better? You should rate consoles on their hardware, libraries on their software and your choice on both. I used to own a Camry by the way, obviously you didn't pick up on that part....
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#10 Spartan070
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PS2 might be, 2400 game titles I mean really._LiquidFlame_
Completely missed the point.
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#11 _LiquidFlame_
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Thats why I have one, but no 360 or PS3 or PSP or Wii or DS. Only me and my PS2 and my old GBASP.
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PS2 is the best because it has the best library. Want to get technical? PS2 had add-on no system before it had. It also had longer gameplay (not saying better). PS2 beat every console in every catergory you can think of. It's unanimous that PS2 is the best system to date.shungokustasu
*cough* every category? *cough*
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PS2 is the best because it has the best library. Want to get technical? PS2 had add-on no system before it had. It also had longer gameplay (not saying better). PS2 beat every console in every catergory you can think of. It's unanimous that PS2 is the best system to date.shungokustasu
Longer Gameplay? Also from a technical standpoint the PS2 cleans other systems' toilets, what are you talking about? Also judging by your first sentence you obviously didn't read my OP...
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if it has the best library then its the best console. xbox had the best hardware last gen but it was far from being close to the best console of last gen or any gen. ps2 is the best of all time with snes and ps1 tied for second.
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Thats why I have one, but no 360 or PS3 or PSP or Wii or DS. Only me and my PS2 and my old GBASP._LiquidFlame_
Well you should base your choice on both hardware and software but you can't say the hardware is better because the software is, that doesn't make sense.
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It depends on the criteria you use. Some people like to use the software library while others like to brag about the hardware. If you use the latter, then the PS2 probably wouldn't come out as victor.
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if it has the best library then its the best console. xbox had the best hardware last gen but it was far from being close to the best console of last gen or any gen. ps2 is the best of all time with snes and ps1 tied for second.Me-Ur-Daddy
No, if it has the best library then it's your best choice, that has nothing to do with the system itself. Your choice is obviously based more on the software than the hardware.
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#18 peenatrick
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Spartan-you must have an opinion on the best console.  How about which aspects one should look at to rate it the best.  Please share with us.
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[QUOTE="shungokustasu"]PS2 is the best because it has the best library. Want to get technical? PS2 had add-on no system before it had. It also had longer gameplay (not saying better). PS2 beat every console in every catergory you can think of. It's unanimous that PS2 is the best system to date.Spartan070
Longer Gameplay? Also froma technical standpoint the PS2 cleans other systems' toilets, what are you talking about? Also judgingbyyour first sentence you obviously didn't read my OP...

I did read your OP. I'm calling it wrong. Any system before the PS2 could not compare to it in any catergory. It had the whole package. Why did PS2 beat the systems after it? they may had more power, but they couldn't produce the games like the PS2.
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"best library of games =/= being the best console"?

seriously, I'm lost
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It depends on the criteria you use. Some people like to use the software library while others like to brag about the hardware. If you use the latter, then the PS2 probably wouldn't come out as victor.crazyjames1080
With the exception of hardware power, name criteria PS2 doesn't win in?
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#22 Spartan070
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People, I put in my OP that it very well may be the best choice and have the best library, you aren't bringing anything new to the thread. If it's the best "choice" then fine but you can't say it's the best "console" specifically and solely because of that.
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[QUOTE="crazyjames1080"]It depends on the criteria you use. Some people like to use the software library while others like to brag about the hardware. If you use the latter, then the PS2 probably wouldn't come out as victor.shungokustasu
With the exception of hardware power, name criteria PS2 doesn't win in?

Console = hardware. That's the point of the tread....which is rapidly flying over your head...
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PS2 isnt THE best, its one of the best next to NES & SNES.  I mean so many good games for it. Hell i still collect PS1 games, last week i got Megaman Legends.
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[QUOTE="Spartan070"][QUOTE="shungokustasu"]PS2 is the best because it has the best library. Want to get technical? PS2 had add-on no system before it had. It also had longer gameplay (not saying better). PS2 beat every console in every catergory you can think of. It's unanimous that PS2 is the best system to date.shungokustasu
Longer Gameplay? Also froma technical standpoint the PS2 cleans other systems' toilets, what are you talking about? Also judgingbyyour first sentence you obviously didn't read my OP...

I did read your OP. I'm calling it wrong. Any system before the PS2 could not compare to it in any catergory. It had the whole package. Why did PS2 beat the systems after it? they may had more power, but they couldn't produce the games like the PS2.



dude, your sig is killing me. akuma owns.

seriously Street Fighter is probably or arguably the best game ever  made. definately the best fighter ever made.
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[QUOTE="shungokustasu"][QUOTE="crazyjames1080"]It depends on the criteria you use. Some people like to use the software library while others like to brag about the hardware. If you use the latter, then the PS2 probably wouldn't come out as victor.Spartan070
With the exception of hardware power, name criteria PS2 doesn't win in?

Console = hardware. That's the point of the tread....which is rapidly flying over your head...

Ok, so you think the most powerful console is the best? LOL at that logic. I'm done with this thread...
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[QUOTE="crazyjames1080"]It depends on the criteria you use. Some people like to use the software library while others like to brag about the hardware. If you use the latter, then the PS2 probably wouldn't come out as victor.shungokustasu
With the exception of hardware power, name criteria PS2 doesn't win in?



If you wanted to be critical, the Online capability.
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[QUOTE="Spartan070"][QUOTE="shungokustasu"]PS2 is the best because it has the best library. Want to get technical? PS2 had add-on no system before it had. It also had longer gameplay (not saying better). PS2 beat every console in every catergory you can think of. It's unanimous that PS2 is the best system to date.shungokustasu
Longer Gameplay? Also froma technical standpoint the PS2 cleans other systems' toilets, what are you talking about? Also judgingbyyour first sentence you obviously didn't read my OP...

I did read your OP. I'm calling it wrong. Any system before the PS2 could not compare to it in any catergory. It had the whole package. Why did PS2 beat the systems after it? they may had more power, but they couldn't produce the games like the PS2.

A) Oh course it beats older systems performance wise... B) The console itself doesn't produce games, devs do.
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[QUOTE="shungokustasu"][QUOTE="Spartan070"][QUOTE="shungokustasu"]PS2 is the best because it has the best library. Want to get technical? PS2 had add-on no system before it had. It also had longer gameplay (not saying better). PS2 beat every console in every catergory you can think of. It's unanimous that PS2 is the best system to date.xxThyLordxx
Longer Gameplay? Also froma technical standpoint the PS2 cleans other systems' toilets, what are you talking about? Also judgingbyyour first sentence you obviously didn't read my OP...

I did read your OP. I'm calling it wrong. Any system before the PS2 could not compare to it in any catergory. It had the whole package. Why did PS2 beat the systems after it? they may had more power, but they couldn't produce the games like the PS2.



dude, your sig is killing me. akuma owns.

seriously Street Fighter is probably or arguably the best game ever made. definately the best fighter ever made.

Thank You.
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[QUOTE="Me-Ur-Daddy"]if it has the best library then its the best console. xbox had the best hardware last gen but it was far from being close to the best console of last gen or any gen. ps2 is the best of all time with snes and ps1 tied for second.Spartan070
No, if it has the best library then it's your best choice, that has nothing to do with the system itself. Your choice is obviously based more on the software than the hardware.

you dont make sense, when people say it is the best console they mean because it had the best games. nobody buys a system just to stare at it and look at its spec sheets.
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[QUOTE="shungokustasu"] Ok, so you think the most powerful console is the best? LOL at that logic. I'm done with this thread...

Dude, console = hardware, not just in terms of power but everything about it. Innovation, layout, connections, drives, features, everything. The PS2 is a horrendous system in comparison to the others. Who said I only meant power?
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[QUOTE="Spartan070"][QUOTE="Me-Ur-Daddy"]if it has the best library then its the best console. xbox had the best hardware last gen but it was far from being close to the best console of last gen or any gen. ps2 is the best of all time with snes and ps1 tied for second.Me-Ur-Daddy
No, if it has the best library then it's your best choice, that has nothing to do with the system itself. Your choice is obviously based more on the software than the hardware.

you dont make sense, when people say it is the best console they mean because it had the best games. nobody buys a system just to stare at it and look at its spec sheets.

Then people should say "it's the best choice," not "it's the best console."
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[QUOTE="Spartan070"][QUOTE="shungokustasu"] Ok, so you think the most powerful console is the best? LOL at that logic. I'm done with this thread...

Dude, console = hardware, not just in terms of power but everything about it. Innovation, layout, connections, drives, features, everything. The PS2 is a horrendous system in comparison to the others. Who said I only meant power?

Horrendous? So you saying the PS3 is the best console? It offers more than any console to date.
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SNES is the best ever.
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[QUOTE="shungokustasu"][QUOTE="Spartan070"][QUOTE="shungokustasu"] Ok, so you think the most powerful console is the best? LOL at that logic. I'm done with this thread...

Dude, console = hardware, not just in terms of power but everything about it. Innovation, layout, connections, drives, features, everything. The PS2 is a horrendous system in comparison to the others. Who said I only meant power?

Horrendous? So you saying the PS3 is the best console? It offers more than any console to date.

Either the PS3 or the 360. Very possible it's the PS3.  Also have to factor in the year in which it launched.
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having the best library of games =/= being the best console.Spartan070
:| I disagree
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If you are condemning the PS2, you could also criticise the inferior multi platform's, and arguably worse split screen titles.
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[QUOTE="Spartan070"][QUOTE="shungokustasu"] Ok, so you think the most powerful console is the best? LOL at that logic. I'm done with this thread...

Dude, console = hardware, not just in terms of power but everything about it. Innovation, layout, connections, drives, features, everything. The PS2 is a horrendous system in comparison to the others. Who said I only meant power?



pick a console:

Console A: great hardware, crap games

Console B: crap hardware, great games.

pick one.
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[QUOTE="Me-Ur-Daddy"][QUOTE="Spartan070"][QUOTE="Me-Ur-Daddy"]if it has the best library then its the best console. xbox had the best hardware last gen but it was far from being close to the best console of last gen or any gen. ps2 is the best of all time with snes and ps1 tied for second.Spartan070
No, if it has the best library then it's your best choice, that has nothing to do with the system itself. Your choice is obviously based more on the software than the hardware.

you dont make sense, when people say it is the best console they mean because it had the best games. nobody buys a system just to stare at it and look at its spec sheets.

Then people should say "it's the best choice," not "it's the best console."

see you are nitpicking, and you just wasted time out of our collective precious lives. WHEN PEOPLE SAY ITS THE BEST CONSOLE ITS BECAUSE IT IS. we buy consoles to play its games, and thats what everyone is saying it had the best library, this thread was the biggest waste of time and you should seriously take a second thought before you hit that new topic button again
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[QUOTE="Spartan070"having the best library of games =/= being the best console.secretsaiyan007
:| I disagree

Console = everything about the hardware, innovation, layout, connections, drives, features, everything. Library = quantity and quality of games available for system. Choice = based on both.
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[QUOTE="Spartan070"][QUOTE="shungokustasu"][QUOTE="Spartan070"][QUOTE="shungokustasu"] Ok, so you think the most powerful console is the best? LOL at that logic. I'm done with this thread...

Dude, console = hardware, not just in terms of power but everything about it. Innovation, layout, connections, drives, features, everything. The PS2 is a horrendous system in comparison to the others. Who said I only meant power?

Horrendous? So you saying the PS3 is the best console? It offers more than any console to date.

Either the PS3 or the 360. Very possible it's the PS3. Also have to factor in the year in which it launched.

There is no 360 or PS3. PS3 wins. It offers more than the 360. You state console=hardware; therefore, PS3 is the best console. Also, why can't you understand that people say 'best console' means the best console to have a great library?
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[QUOTE="xxThyLordxx"][QUOTE="Spartan070"][QUOTE="shungokustasu"] Ok, so you think the most powerful console is the best? LOL at that logic. I'm done with this thread...

Dude, console = hardware, not just in terms of power but everything about it. Innovation, layout, connections, drives, features, everything. The PS2 is a horrendous system in comparison to the others. Who said I only meant power?



pick a console:

Console A: great hardware, crap games

Console B: crap hardware, great games.

pick one.



Console B, games are about GAMEPLAY, not staring at the graphics all day.
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[QUOTE="Spartan070"][QUOTE="Me-Ur-Daddy"][QUOTE="Spartan070"][QUOTE="Me-Ur-Daddy"]if it has the best library then its the best console. xbox had the best hardware last gen but it was far from being close to the best console of last gen or any gen. ps2 is the best of all time with snes and ps1 tied for second.Me-Ur-Daddy
No, if it has the best library then it's your best choice, that has nothing to do with the system itself. Your choice is obviously based more on the software than the hardware.

you dont make sense, when people say it is the best console they mean because it had the best games. nobody buys a system just to stare at it and look at its spec sheets.

Then people should say "it's the best choice," not "it's the best console."

see you are nitpicking, and you just wasted time out of our collective precious lives. WHEN PEOPLE SAY ITS THE BEST CONSOLE ITS BECAUSE IT IS. we buy consoles to play its games, and thats what everyone is saying it had the best library, this thread was the biggest waste of time and you should seriously take a second thought before you hit that new topic button again

My time is never wasted, I never have anything to do. Nevertheless, nit-picking or not, my point stands. Console = everything about the hardware, innovation, layout, connections, drives, features, everything. Library = quantity and quality of games available for system. Choice = based on both.
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[QUOTE="xxThyLordxx"][QUOTE="Spartan070"][QUOTE="shungokustasu"] Ok, so you think the most powerful console is the best? LOL at that logic. I'm done with this thread...

Dude, console = hardware, not just in terms of power but everything about it. Innovation, layout, connections, drives, features, everything. The PS2 is a horrendous system in comparison to the others. Who said I only meant power?



pick a console:

Console A: great hardware, crap games

Console B: crap hardware, great games.

pick one.



Spartan070 please choose a console.
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#45 Me-Ur-Daddy
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[QUOTE="Spartan070"][QUOTE="shungokustasu"][QUOTE="Spartan070"][QUOTE="shungokustasu"] Ok, so you think the most powerful console is the best? LOL at that logic. I'm done with this thread...

Dude, console = hardware, not just in terms of power but everything about it. Innovation, layout, connections, drives, features, everything. The PS2 is a horrendous system in comparison to the others. Who said I only meant power?

Horrendous? So you saying the PS3 is the best console? It offers more than any console to date.

Either the PS3 or the 360. Very possible it's the PS3.  Also have to factor in the year in which it launched.

you do know that xbox launched a year after ps2 ? so its the same damn thing just in reverse, you are trying to imply the xbox was the best last gen cus it had better hardware, now you are saying the ps3 could be the best but you have to factor in the later launch. i see a double standard, and a fanboy.
If you are condemning the PS2, you could also criticise the inferior multi platform's, and arguably worse split screen titles.
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a lot of games were better on ps2, for example the GTAs off the top of my head.
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#46 Spartan070
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People, I own a PS2 and both versions of the PS1, and a collective 80 some games for them. I love the PS2. Nevertheless, people of much banter, my point still stands. You guys act like I hate the PS2 or something...
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#47 Spartan070
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[QUOTE="xxThyLordxx"][QUOTE="xxThyLordxx"][QUOTE="Spartan070"][QUOTE="shungokustasu"] Ok, so you think the most powerful console is the best? LOL at that logic. I'm done with this thread...

Dude, console = hardware, not just in terms of power but everything about it. Innovation, layout, connections, drives, features, everything. The PS2 is a horrendous system in comparison to the others. Who said I only meant power?



pick a console:

Console A: great hardware, crap games

Console B: crap hardware, great games.

pick one.



Spartan070 please choose a console.

I own 20 consoles, including both of the early Playstations.:|
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#48 secretsaiyan007
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[QUOTE="secretsaiyan007"][QUOTE="Spartan070"]having the best library of games =/= being the best console.Spartan070
:| I disagree

Console = everything about the hardware, innovation, layout, connections, drives, features, everything. Library = quantity and quality of games available for system. Choice = based on both.

When you say best console in this industry, it includes both the hardware and software. But I, like most people believe that software>hardware. So when a console has the best software, it usually means its the best console.
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#49 frustatedgibbon
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N64 has all my favourite games ever, so its best for me. the GC was the best for me this gen, because i love nintendo games and they had some other amazing exclusives too (rogue leader, eternal darkness, resi 4 for a while), but theres no denying the PS2 had the biggest quantity of quality titles, but i just prefered the GC's exclusives. but im definately getting a PS2 ASAP for okami, SOTC, FF12, ico, kingdom hearts etc. b xx
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#50 Spartan070
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[QUOTE="Me-Ur-Daddy"][QUOTE="Spartan070"][QUOTE="shungokustasu"] Horrendous? So you saying the PS3 is the best console? It offers more than any console to date.

Either the PS3 or the 360. Very possible it's the PS3. Also have to factor in the year in which it launched.

you do know that xbox launched a year after ps2 ? so its the same damn thing just in reverse, you are trying to imply the xbox was the best last gen cus it had better hardware, now you are saying the ps3 could be the best but you have to factor in the later launch. i see a double standard, and a fanboy.

Then you need glasses. And yes the Xbox was miles better as a console than the PS2, the Gamecube, not so much.