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#51 aka_aj03
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[QUOTE="aka_aj03"][QUOTE="Pimpshigity21"]

Yes...millions of people will pay $400 to play one $30 movie. That makes total sense to me...especially in this economy. Just wait for Batman...all for the low price of $430 plus tax.

Hey, on the other hand, congratulations cows...you will finally be able to put your PS3 to good use...after spending months playing 360 games on your powerful PCs.

Grasping at straws 101.

Pimpshigity21

Did you even watch the commercial... Dark Knight was only a glimpse part of powerful package PS3 have to offer... Bluray is just another plus for us.

Blu-ray is the reason the PS3 is losing this gen. Don' you realize that?

If people want the movie really bad, there are chaper alternatives to the PS3 available now.

How it is losing... with 16.84 millions vs 22.5 millions console sold.. i think it doing just fine. Why are you still saying PS3 has no game.. factually it has AAAA and AAA games, this is not 2006 anymore.
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#52 RuinedMachine
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[QUOTE="mmirza23"][QUOTE="Pimpshigity21"]Well, MS cand drop the price of the 360 by $50 less when the PS3 is lowered to $50 more.

But these are that-ifs...in the here and now, the 360 is $200 less...and at these current prices, MS is making a profit while Sony is losing money.

Pimpshigity21

Exactly and therein lies the problem for Sony, they had 2 options, either release the PS3 with that price tag at the same time as 360 or if they were gonna wait a year, release it in the same price range. They did neither and now you can see the results.

I think they should have released two versions of the PS3...one with a Blu-ray player, and the other one with a DVD. After a couple of years they could have pulled a switcharoo and made Blu-ray a requirement to develop for the PS3 (kinda what MS is trying to do with the 360 hard drive). I don't know if this would have put them in 1st place (ahead of the Wii), but I can almost guarantee you that they would be ahead of the 360.

But they really wanted to push the Blu-ray format at all costs. We are now seeing the price Sony paid for such a greed driven blunder.




So what you're saying is that Sony should have *&^%ed over its customers like MS did?
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#53 Mordred19
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Must get Dark Knight on Bluray! :O
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#54 aliasfreak
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[QUOTE="nintendo-4life"][QUOTE="mmirza23"] You can but that blu ray player may not support profile 2.0mmirza23
and what the hell is profile 2? :|

Profile 2.0 supports BD-live internet connection, 1.1 added the PIP for commentary and 1 was the initial profile. The PS3 is one of the very few players that can upgrade profiles VIA firmware update which is why its considered the best blu ray player out.

This Samsung player has it and is only $250, possibly cheaper elsewhere.

http://www.circuitcity.com/ssm/Samsung-BDP-1500-BD-Live-Ready-Blu-ray-Disc-Player-BDP1500/sem/rpsm/oid/213558/rpem/ccd/productDetail.do

As far as the other post of mine that you replied to, yep, people's eyes are different, but if something was vastly superior visually, I'd think it would be obvious to everyone. Don't get me wrong now, I'm not trying to put BR down, I'm just kind of a stickler for word choice. If I had a PS3, I would probably invest the little extra if the sound really is that much better. I have noticed that on some DVDs the sound isn't that great.

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#55 Rahnyc4
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how is this system war caliber?
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#56 beast667
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TC, theres no way Batman will push consoles, but at least you have a nice avatar :D
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#57 wolverine4262
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huh... Thats funny b/c I just got done watching The Dark Knight... in HD.... on my 360....
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#58 mmirza23
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[QUOTE="mmirza23"][QUOTE="nintendo-4life"] and what the hell is profile 2? :|aliasfreak
Profile 2.0 supports BD-live internet connection, 1.1 added the PIP for commentary and 1 was the initial profile. The PS3 is one of the very few players that can upgrade profiles VIA firmware update which is why its considered the best blu ray player out.

This Samsung player has it and is only $250, possibly cheaper elsewhere.

http://www.circuitcity.com/ssm/Samsung-BDP-1500-BD-Live-Ready-Blu-ray-Disc-Player-BDP1500/sem/rpsm/oid/213558/rpem/ccd/productDetail.do

As far as the other post of mine that you replied to, yep, people's eyes are different, but if something was vastly superior visually, I'd think it would be obvious to everyone. Don't get me wrong now, I'm not trying to put BR down, I'm just kind of a stickler for word choice. If I had a PS3, I would probably invest the little extra if the sound really is that much better. I have noticed that on some DVDs the sound isn't that great.

Yeah Samsung and Sony players are usually supporting the 2.0 profile, very few for cheaper prices than the PS3. That is a good deal though, again I think price is the biggest problem, if Sony is actually sticking to the 10 year plan then they dont need to worry about what's going on now, however if that doesnt work then they really have problems right now and will never make the money back on this PS3 investment and would need to rethink everything for PS4..
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#59 one_on_one
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Even though The Dark Knight is not a PS3 system seller, The Dark Knight blu ray is the best item to get for the PS3 all year. I'm buying it on DVD though but will be renting the blu ray version and getting it later on if there's a good deal or goes on sale. Blu rays are just too expensive right now.

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#60 Pimpshigity21
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[QUOTE="Pimpshigity21"][QUOTE="mmirza23"]

Exactly and therein lies the problem for Sony, they had 2 options, either release the PS3 with that price tag at the same time as 360 or if they were gonna wait a year, release it in the same price range. They did neither and now you can see the results.

RuinedMachine

I think they should have released two versions of the PS3...one with a Blu-ray player, and the other one with a DVD. After a couple of years they could have pulled a switcharoo and made Blu-ray a requirement to develop for the PS3 (kinda what MS is trying to do with the 360 hard drive). I don't know if this would have put them in 1st place (ahead of the Wii), but I can almost guarantee you that they would be ahead of the 360.

But they really wanted to push the Blu-ray format at all costs. We are now seeing the price Sony paid for such a greed driven blunder.



So what you're saying is that Sony should have *&^%ed over its customers like MS did?

Did I not make that clear?

Edit: Sorry dude, I just realized id actually did not make myself clear at all.

What I meant to say is they should have released Sony games in DVD at launch...and then, a couple of years later, released them in both DVD and Blu-ray (not only in Blu-ray). For the DVD only PS3 owners, they could have offered a Blu-ray add on.

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#61 Leo-Magic
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Dark Knight record breaking most watch trailer online... record breaking summer 08 box office... and finally it will be record breaking Dark Knight bluray seller. Hope you all watch the Sony new ads with PS3/Dark Knight... this will deliver huge PS3 sales for the holiday... i won't be surprise if they bring out Dark Knight PS3 bundle.



"Sony has launched a series of TV commercials to lure consumers to buy the Playstation 3. As always these ads are very well put together and one of them features clips from "The Dark Knight" on Blu-ray." aka_aj03
SEE, this is the reason why ps3 games never sell well.
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#62 Hexagon_777
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This thread needs this:

It's a Blu-Ray player that plays games!

It's a Blu-Ray player that also plays games! :lol:

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#63 Pimpshigity21
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[QUOTE="Pimpshigity21"][QUOTE="aka_aj03"] Did you even watch the commercial... Dark Knight was only a glimpse part of powerful package PS3 have to offer... Bluray is just another plus for us. aka_aj03

Blu-ray is the reason the PS3 is losing this gen. Don' you realize that?

If people want the movie really bad, there are chaper alternatives to the PS3 available now.

How it is losing... with 16.84 millions vs 22.5 millions console sold.. i think it doing just fine. Why are you still saying PS3 has no game.. factually it has AAAA and AAA games, this is not 2006 anymore.

Losing means being in last place. Being in last place sucks...being in last place after being in first place and dominating the maket sucks even more.

The ultimate in suckage = 16.8 million vs 130+ million

Now that ultimate suckage would not suck so much if there was a possibility that the 16.8 could possibly turn into 130 somewhere down the line...but the thing is, the PS3 sales have actually slowed down...while the 360s have picked up.

But hey, Batman will come to the rescue. Just wait.

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#64 micky4889
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This thread needs this:

It's a Blu-Ray player that plays games!

It's a Blu-Ray player that also plays games! :lol:

Hexagon_777
Is that really any different than this? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X6Tq2Kdd6jg
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#65 Robobie16
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[QUOTE="DJ_Lae"]Selling consoles with movies is like people buying a Dodge Calibur because it has a cooler in the glovebox.RuinedMachine




Yeah I mean who the hell likes movies? Movies are lame. Espcially The Dark Knight.

So is your face

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#66 fenwickhotmail
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Am I the only one who thought this film is overated? :(
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#67 Hexagon_777
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[QUOTE="Hexagon_777"]

This thread needs this:

It's a Blu-Ray player that plays games!

It's a Blu-Ray player that also plays games! :lol:

micky4889

Is that really any different than this? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X6Tq2Kdd6jg

It doesn't convey that it's a movie player that just so happens to play games but it still made me smile. :D

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#68 micky4889
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[QUOTE="micky4889"][QUOTE="Hexagon_777"]

This thread needs this:

It's a Blu-Ray player that plays games!

It's a Blu-Ray player that also plays games! :lol:

Hexagon_777

Is that really any different than this? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X6Tq2Kdd6jg

It doesn't convey that it's a movie player that just so happens to play games but it still made me smile. :D

No it conveys that it's JUST a movie player show me one reference made to a game in that ad ? you cant

At least in the ps3 one they are advertising both blu-ray and games

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#69 HappyAppe
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I'll be definitely getting Dark Knight on Bluray, as my roomate already owns a PS3 and 1080p TV to watch it on. However, I don't see it raising PS3 sales very much, as there exist cheaper players in the market.

People will go for the cheaper models I think.

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#70 Hexagon_777
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[QUOTE="Hexagon_777"][QUOTE="micky4889"]Is that really any different than this? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X6Tq2Kdd6jgmicky4889


It doesn't convey that it's a movie player that just so happens to play games but it still made me smile. :D



No it conveys that it's JUST a movie player show me one reference made to a game in that ad ? you cant At least in the ps3 one thet are advertising both blu-ray and games

The thing is, there was never a big debate about whether people buy the 360 because it plays movies or because it plays current generation games. With the PS3 on the other hand, there has always been that question, especially since it launched as the cheapest Blu-Ray on the market. The picture above gives people who poke fun at it for that more fuel.

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#71 mmirza23
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[QUOTE="Pimpshigity21"][QUOTE="aka_aj03"][QUOTE="Pimpshigity21"]

Blu-ray is the reason the PS3 is losing this gen. Don' you realize that?

If people want the movie really bad, there are chaper alternatives to the PS3 available now.

How it is losing... with 16.84 millions vs 22.5 millions console sold.. i think it doing just fine. Why are you still saying PS3 has no game.. factually it has AAAA and AAA games, this is not 2006 anymore.

Losing means being in last place. Being in last place sucks...being in last place after being in first place and dominating the maket sucks even more.

The ultimate in suckage = 16.8 million vs 130+ million

Now that ultimate suckage would not suck so much if there was a possibility that the 16.8 could possibly turn into 130 somewhere down the line...but the thing is, the PS3 sales have actually slowed down...while the 360s have picked up.

But hey, Batman will come to the rescue. Just wait.

Well year over year PS3 sales have increased well over 100%, however that's only good enough to still be last in sales, the 360 price drop really hurt the PS3 sales momentum this year. Even if PS3 sales get to 130, the other consoles wont be far behind(wii might sell more than 130) which in turn means Sony still lost major market share.
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#72 I_Helios_I
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Selling consoles with movies is like people buying a Dodge Calibur because it has a cooler in the glovebox.DJ_Lae
lmfao! It will move PS3's though.
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#73 blazinpuertoroc
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that was a pretty cool ad...They actually showed games!
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#74 WilliamRLBaker
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At least in the ps3 one they are advertising both blu-ray and gamesmicky4889
And your exadgerating the 360 ad wow! one ad! amongest many ad's just like that! just LIKE IT that are advertising games as well. where as the ps3 ad is just a box that says it all so plays games, no where in the 360 commercial are games mentioned BY DESIGN because its highlighting the 360s movie capabilities but there are a few other ad's highlighting its other parts like games...ect the ps3 ad is just a box where it says hey its a blu ray player it plays movies...but it all so plays games.
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#75 aka_aj03
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[QUOTE="aka_aj03"][QUOTE="Pimpshigity21"]

Blu-ray is the reason the PS3 is losing this gen. Don' you realize that?

If people want the movie really bad, there are chaper alternatives to the PS3 available now.

Pimpshigity21

How it is losing... with 16.84 millions vs 22.5 millions console sold.. i think it doing just fine. Why are you still saying PS3 has no game.. factually it has AAAA and AAA games, this is not 2006 anymore.

Losing means being in last place. Being in last place sucks...being in last place after being in first place and dominating the maket sucks even more.

The ultimate in suckage = 16.8 million vs 130+ million

Now that ultimate suckage would not suck so much if there was a possibility that the 16.8 could possibly turn into 130 somewhere down the line...but the thing is, the PS3 sales have actually slowed down...while the 360s have picked up.

But hey, Batman will come to the rescue. Just wait.

where the **** you get 130 million 360 consoles. Look at the numbers before you type.. PS3 is only 6 millions shy from 360. Hey i will be watching The Dark Knight in full HD, after that I will playing R2 and LBP online coop with my friends.
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#76 Lem_President
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no.......im afriad DVD sales will gobble up most of the sales.

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[QUOTE="rybe1025"]We heard this all before with Spider Man. If games for a game console like MGS4 and RfoM and LBP can not do it then why would a movie push the sales for a game console? A person can buy a blu-ray for $150 so no reason to spend $400.HoldThePhone
Why not pay the extra for gee...iono, a current HD game console as well?

You're not paying "extra" you're paying nearly three times as much. That's like saying why buy mcdonalds when you can pay a little extra and get a lobster dinner. You'd either want one or the other.
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#78 signore
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Selling consoles with movies is like people buying a Dodge Calibur because it has a cooler in the glovebox.DJ_Lae
I dont think so, its smart. My first DVD player was a PS2. If a father/mother wanted a blu ray player... and they know their kids would like a console for christmas it kills 2 birds with 1 stone. Anybody who bashes Sony for this is ignorant and would a horrible business man
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#79 Singularity22
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Ill be getting this for the Blu ray player on my REAL HD gaming rig.
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#80 DanteSuikoden
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Selling consoles with movies is like people buying a Dodge Calibur because it has a cooler in the glovebox.DJ_Lae

I think it would be more effective than the 160GB Uncharted Bundle

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#81 JediRiff
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Who cares I'm getting it on DVD.Ragnarok1051
My thoughts exactly.
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#82 JediRiff
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Am I the only one who thought this film is overated? :(fenwickhotmail
You're probably one of the few, yes... :)
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#83 FragTycoon
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Anyone else notice that they are starting to advertise movies as blu-ray w/o mentioning dvd?

Link

They have a DVD/Blu-ray as well

Link

Just something I noticed.

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#84 Innovazero2000
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e

Anyone else notice that they are starting to advertise movies as blu-ray w/o mentioning dvd?

Link

They have a DVD/Blu-ray as well

Link

Just something I noticed.

FragTycoon

Yeah I noticed that too, but they really need to lower the price of the movies...or it will never take off. People aren't going to throw $25-35 for a freakin movie every time.

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#85 W1NGMAN-
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Whether it moves systems or not, all I know is that I'll be enjoying The Dark Knight at midnight tonight in beautiful Hi Definition :D
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#86 FragTycoon
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e[QUOTE="FragTycoon"]

Anyone else notice that they are starting to advertise movies as blu-ray w/o mentioning dvd?

Link

They have a DVD/Blu-ray as well

Link

Just something I noticed.

Innovazero2000

Yeah I noticed that too, but they really need to lower the price of the movies...or it will never take off. People aren't going to throw $25-35 for a freakin movie every time.

It will always be higher then DVD retail price but I do see it going down after the holiday milkage :P

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#87 Hexagon_777
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[QUOTE="DJ_Lae"]Selling consoles with movies is like people buying a Dodge Calibur because it has a cooler in the glovebox.signore
I dont think so, its smart. My first DVD player was a PS2. If a father/mother wanted a blu ray player... and they know their kids would like a console for christmas it kills 2 birds with 1 stone. Anybody who bashes Sony for this is ignorant and would a horrible business man

Anyone who bashes Sony for this is ignorant and would make a horrible business man? Please. The PlayStation 3 is last in hardware sold, last in software sold and Sony is not making a profit on the PlayStation 3, unlike Microsoft and Nintendo with the Xbox 360 and Wii respectively. Perhaps they are utilising the loss leader pricing strategy but if they are, it certainly isn't working out for them.

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#88 AgentA-Mi6
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The Ps3 has Too many games, its a waste to buy the system for a movie. I dont think many will.
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I am a hardcore gamer as much as I am a movie enthusiast. PS3 with Dark Knight grants me two things : 1) An HD console for my hardcore gaming needs. 2) The best possible blu-ray movie you can get for the Holidays. I'd rather have Dark Knight Blu-Ray than Spiderman bundled with the PS3, to be honest. And the Dark Knight is no mere film either.
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#90 ChiSoxBombers
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[QUOTE="DJ_Lae"]Selling consoles with movies is like people buying a Dodge Calibur because it has a cooler in the glovebox.CubanBlunt

Whats your point, people will still by it.

Yeah, you wont believe the number of people who buy ps3's for not only games, but MOVIES also. HD is sweeping the nation, most people want to use their HDTV's to watch movies in HD as well, and the only HD movie player out there is Blu-Ray. hence, the ps3 will easily find some sales via the Dark Knight release. i know i'll be getting it on BluRay
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#91 vags-k
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i will get it on blu ray tonight at midnight

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#92 iam2green
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i'm getting this on DVD tomorrow. i don't think it does anything to ps3. the price should drop on it. 360 and wii r both around 200 while the ps3 is still at 400. blu ray players r cheaper then that. i think that is really the only reason why the ps3 was 600 when it first came out.
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#93 foxhound_fox
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I like to play games on my gaming consoles.
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#94 LittleHands134
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People actually buy movies?
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#95 metalpower08
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[QUOTE="DJ_Lae"]Selling consoles with movies is like people buying a Dodge Calibur because it has a cooler in the glovebox.Teufelhuhn
It has a cooler in the glovebox?!? :o

AWESOME WHERE CAN I BUY ONE!!!???
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#96 Shattered007
Member since 2007 • 3139 Posts

In that case couldn't the 360 ad that you'll be able to view The Dark Knight on Netflix too?

[QUOTE="Teufelhuhn"][QUOTE="DJ_Lae"]Selling consoles with movies is like people buying a Dodge Calibur because it has a cooler in the glovebox.metalpower08
It has a cooler in the glovebox?!? :o

AWESOME WHERE CAN I BUY ONE!!!???


Meh, I prefer the Charger better....

Does that have a cooler in the glove compartmeny too?

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#97 W1NGMAN-
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I like to play games on my gaming consoles.foxhound_fox

What is this 1993? Seriously get with the times, these consoles can do a lot more then just play games.

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#98 Hexagon_777
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[QUOTE="foxhound_fox"]I like to play games on my gaming consoles.W1NGMAN-

What is this 1993? Seriously get with the times, these consoles can do a lot more then just play games.

So consoles are becoming more and more like PCs yet consolites say that PC gaming is dying. I sense irony.

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#99 deactivated-5d6e91f5c147a
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People actually buy movies?LittleHands134
We're both in the same boat with that question my friend.
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#100 mr_mozilla
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:? So, is there anyone who hasn't already seen Dark Knight? And who the hell pays over 30 bucks for a movie anyway.