PS3 Can Actually Exceed 360 in sales by end of this YEAR!!!

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#51 HuusAsking
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Not this again! Fact is that the PS3 has ALREADY outsold the 360.

PS3 had been out for 20 months with and average of 655,500 units per month sold

Xbox 360 has been out for 32 months with an average of 593,343 units per month sold.

Do you see how the PS3 number is bigger??? Yeah, that means they are ahead.

You MS fanboys keep hiding behind the 1 year head start and claim you are "ahead". Whatever! If thats what you need to do to convince yourself that you didnt flush $500 down the toilet.

Eventually, Yes, the PS3 will surpass the 360 in TOTAL SALES, and then the tears will flow. Overcoming a one year headstart and smashing the Xbox into historic system failure along with the Dreamcast and Gizmodo. Ohhhh maaan, LOL

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(20months)(655,500units/month)=13,110,000 total units sold(PS3)

(32months)(593,343units/month)=18,986,976 total units sold(360)

do you see how the 360 number is bigger that means the 360 has sold more consoles and are ahead in sales.

So with your numbers the 360 is ahead by 5,876,976 consoles sold, again with your numbers the PS3 is outselling the 360 by 62,157 consoles a month. So it would take the PS3 roughly 7 and a half years to tie in sales with the 360, assuming there is no change in your numbers.

Edit: I do think the PS3 will pass the 360 in sales in a couple years, I just wanted to see how this guys numbers would play out so I figured I would post it.

Two years is too late. We'll be in the eighth generation by then.
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#52 Ragashahs
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no 08 will definetly negate the year head start 360 had but 09 is when PS3 offically overtakes 360 but by then MS will already be hard at work with next xbox
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#53 ThisCurse
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Not this again! Fact is that the PS3 has ALREADY outsold the 360.

PS3 had been out for 20 months with and average of 655,500 units per month sold

Xbox 360 has been out for 32 months with an average of 593,343 units per month sold.

Do you see how the PS3 number is bigger??? Yeah, that means they are ahead.

You MS fanboys keep hiding behind the 1 year head start and claim you are "ahead". Whatever! If thats what you need to do to convince yourself that you didnt flush $500 down the toilet.

Eventually, Yes, the PS3 will surpass the 360 in TOTAL SALES, and then the tears will flow. Overcoming a one year headstart and smashing the Xbox into historic system failure along with the Dreamcast and Gizmodo. Ohhhh maaan, LOL

Hypochondria9

(20months)(655,500units/month)=13,110,000 total units sold(PS3)

(32months)(593,343units/month)=18,986,976 total units sold(360)

do you see how the 360 number is bigger that means the 360 has sold more consoles and are ahead in sales.

So with your numbers the 360 is ahead by 5,876,976 consoles sold, again with your numbers the PS3 is outselling the 360 by 62,157 consoles a month. So it would take the PS3 roughly 7 and a half years to tie in sales with the 360, assuming there is no change in your numbers.

Edit: I do think the PS3 will pass the 360 in sales in a couple years, I just wanted to see how this guys numbers would play out so I figured I would post it.

No pun intended, but I used to teach Remiadial Math........... So let me break this down to the lowest commmon denominator for you all.

PS3 - 20 months of sales = 13,110,000 units sold (20 months X 655,500)

Xbox360 20 months of sales =11,866,860 units sold (20 months X 593,343)

PS3 = ahead in sales period. You HAVE to compare 20 months to 20 months. Again, MS fanboys try to confuse numbers by throwing that 12 month head start in there. No, not working for you buddy.

And it wont be long before PS3 overcomes the 360 in TOTAL sales. I mean the 360 is fizzling out being the oldest system and MGS4 will push tons of new sales.

Not that I care one way or the other which company "wins" or makes more money, I just want the facts to be seen. So many bullcrap claims on here and I cant ignore them all.

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#54 Riverwolf007
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[QUOTE="Hypochondria9"][QUOTE="ThisCurse"]

Not this again! Fact is that the PS3 has ALREADY outsold the 360.

PS3 had been out for 20 months with and average of 655,500 units per month sold

Xbox 360 has been out for 32 months with an average of 593,343 units per month sold.

Do you see how the PS3 number is bigger??? Yeah, that means they are ahead.

You MS fanboys keep hiding behind the 1 year head start and claim you are "ahead". Whatever! If thats what you need to do to convince yourself that you didnt flush $500 down the toilet.

Eventually, Yes, the PS3 will surpass the 360 in TOTAL SALES, and then the tears will flow. Overcoming a one year headstart and smashing the Xbox into historic system failure along with the Dreamcast and Gizmodo. Ohhhh maaan, LOL

ThisCurse

(20months)(655,500units/month)=13,110,000 total units sold(PS3)

(32months)(593,343units/month)=18,986,976 total units sold(360)

do you see how the 360 number is bigger that means the 360 has sold more consoles and are ahead in sales.

So with your numbers the 360 is ahead by 5,876,976 consoles sold, again with your numbers the PS3 is outselling the 360 by 62,157 consoles a month. So it would take the PS3 roughly 7 and a half years to tie in sales with the 360, assuming there is no change in your numbers.

Edit: I do think the PS3 will pass the 360 in sales in a couple years, I just wanted to see how this guys numbers would play out so I figured I would post it.

No pun intended, but I used to teach Remiadial Math........... So let me break this down to the lowest commmon denominator for you all.

PS3 - 20 months of sales = 13,110,000 units sold (20 months X 655,500)

Xbox360 20 months of sales =11,866,860 units sold (20 months X 593,343)

PS3 = ahead in sales period. You HAVE to compare 20 months to 20 months. Again, MS fanboys try to confuse numbers by throwing that 12 month head start in there. No, not working for you buddy.

And it wont be long before PS3 overcomes the 360 in TOTAL sales. I mean the 360 is fizzling out being the oldest system and MGS4 will push tons of new sales.

Not that I care one way or the other which company "wins" or makes more money, I just want the facts to be seen. So many bullcrap claims on here and I cant ignore them all.

What does the PS3 get for outselling the 360? Is there a special award for second place now?
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Not this again! Fact is that the PS3 has ALREADY outsold the 360.

PS3 had been out for 20 months with and average of 655,500 units per month sold

Xbox 360 has been out for 32 months with an average of 593,343 units per month sold.

Do you see how the PS3 number is bigger??? Yeah, that means they are ahead.

You MS fanboys keep hiding behind the 1 year head start and claim you are "ahead". Whatever! If thats what you need to do to convince yourself that you didnt flush $500 down the toilet.

Eventually, Yes, the PS3 will surpass the 360 in TOTAL SALES, and then the tears will flow. Overcoming a one year headstart and smashing the Xbox into historic system failure along with the Dreamcast and Gizmodo. Ohhhh maaan, LOL

ThisCurse

I understand the point you are making, but you are holding on to close. "Next-gen starts when we say it does" does not dismiss the fact in total sales the 360 is ahead of the PS3. This is a fact and it can't be dismissed.

What you are saying is the PS3 has outsold the 360 in "X" time period. This is a fact and it can't be dismissed.

You were on point until your wrote:

"You MS fanboys keep hiding behind the 1 year head start and claim you are "ahead". Whatever! If thats what you need to do to convince yourself that you didnt flush $500 down the toilet.

Eventually, Yes, the PS3 will surpass the 360 in TOTAL SALES, and then the tears will flow. Overcoming a one year headstart and smashing the Xbox into historic system failure along with the Dreamcast and Gizmodo. Ohhhh maaan, LOL"

Why would you contradict yourself?

Why would you even comment on total sales when your logic is based off of period sales? Which one are you trying to push? Total sales or period sales?

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#56 black_awpN1
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You realize NPD only covers US, not WW. so it could even though NPDs say other wise. WW is what really matters.
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#57 ff7isnumbaone
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360 will decrerase sale while ps3 was increase dramatically. I think lemmings have the illusion that 360 will same as or better than it is now.
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#58 AgentA-Mi6
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You realize NPD only covers US, not WW. so it could even though NPDs say other wise. WW is what really matters.black_awpN1
Any number that doesnt favor the 360 over th3 Ps3 does not count on system wars, its a rule.
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#59 tmntPunchout
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Nope not this year...
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Not this again! Fact is that the PS3 has ALREADY outsold the 360.

PS3 had been out for 20 months with and average of 655,500 units per month sold

Xbox 360 has been out for 32 months with an average of 593,343 units per month sold.

Do you see how the PS3 number is bigger??? Yeah, that means they are ahead.

You MS fanboys keep hiding behind the 1 year head start and claim you are "ahead". Whatever! If thats what you need to do to convince yourself that you didnt flush $500 down the toilet.

Eventually, Yes, the PS3 will surpass the 360 in TOTAL SALES, and then the tears will flow. Overcoming a one year headstart and smashing the Xbox into historic system failure along with the Dreamcast and Gizmodo. Ohhhh maaan, LOL

ThisCurse
I have both the PS3 and 360. Now with that said, lets really look at the numbers you mentioned. I will trust your numbers, since I don't feel like looking them up, and doing the math. Your claiming a 60,000 console advantage for the PS3 each month, Right? Now, times that by ten and you will get 600,000. Now, time that by ten again and you will get the 6 million lead Microsoft has over the PS3. That's 8 years, 4 months. Unless something happens and goes Sony's way,they might not catch the 360. The way Sony is shooting themselves in the foot every time I turn around. That might not happen. Now, to the point, We don't know what is going to happen with the two consoles, and all this is pure speculation. Lets wait and see what happens, and stop putting our very uneducated, and uninformed opinions out there. Both the 360, and PS3 might go belly up by the end of the year, for all we know. Probably not, but come on, We have no idea whats going to happen.
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#61 loftus42
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[QUOTE="Hypochondria9"][QUOTE="ThisCurse"]

Not this again! Fact is that the PS3 has ALREADY outsold the 360.

PS3 had been out for 20 months with and average of 655,500 units per month sold

Xbox 360 has been out for 32 months with an average of 593,343 units per month sold.

Do you see how the PS3 number is bigger??? Yeah, that means they are ahead.

You MS fanboys keep hiding behind the 1 year head start and claim you are "ahead". Whatever! If thats what you need to do to convince yourself that you didnt flush $500 down the toilet.

Eventually, Yes, the PS3 will surpass the 360 in TOTAL SALES, and then the tears will flow. Overcoming a one year headstart and smashing the Xbox into historic system failure along with the Dreamcast and Gizmodo. Ohhhh maaan, LOL

ThisCurse

(20months)(655,500units/month)=13,110,000 total units sold(PS3)

(32months)(593,343units/month)=18,986,976 total units sold(360)

do you see how the 360 number is bigger that means the 360 has sold more consoles and are ahead in sales.

So with your numbers the 360 is ahead by 5,876,976 consoles sold, again with your numbers the PS3 is outselling the 360 by 62,157 consoles a month. So it would take the PS3 roughly 7 and a half years to tie in sales with the 360, assuming there is no change in your numbers.

Edit: I do think the PS3 will pass the 360 in sales in a couple years, I just wanted to see how this guys numbers would play out so I figured I would post it.

No pun intended, but I used to teach Remiadial Math........... So let me break this down to the lowest commmon denominator for you all.

PS3 - 20 months of sales = 13,110,000 units sold (20 months X 655,500)

Xbox360 20 months of sales =11,866,860 units sold (20 months X 593,343)

PS3 = ahead in sales period. You HAVE to compare 20 months to 20 months. Again, MS fanboys try to confuse numbers by throwing that 12 month head start in there. No, not working for you buddy.

And it wont be long before PS3 overcomes the 360 in TOTAL sales. I mean the 360 is fizzling out being the oldest system and MGS4 will push tons of new sales.

Not that I care one way or the other which company "wins" or makes more money, I just want the facts to be seen. So many bullcrap claims on here and I cant ignore them all.

Now go take a business math course and you will find, that those 12 months DO NOT disappear. No matter how you spin the numbers. Now if you had said since the PS3 had been out, your argument would hold a little more weight, but it still would leak water like a spaghetti strainer. Go rethink your argument, and come back. You might find a small error in your thinking.
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#62 loftus42
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360 will decrerase sale while ps3 was increase dramatically. I think lemmings have the illusion that 360 will same as or better than it is now.ff7isnumbaone
In your opinion. Now lets stop putting opinions out there like they are fact, Please.
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#63 black_awpN1
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Is this thur. NPDs? If so, then how good of a day would it be fore cows. they get Arguably the biggest game of the year (MGS 4) and they could get a month where they outsold 360. (Maybe)
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At the pace things are moving, the PS3 isn't going to catch the 360 until late '09. Stranger things have definitely happened (like the Wii passing the 360 in 12 months, and passing it in each region in under 30 months), but I don't think the PS3 is going to catch the 360 this year. It will happen though. The 360 is probably going to cap at about 35-40 million, and the PS3 still has the potential to pass 50.

Going back through my old posts and looking at the ridicule I got for believing the Wii would be in the place it is in now and that the 360's hardware sales would wither after the release of Halo 3, I just have to laugh. I've been saying these numbers since before the release of the PS3 and Wii...

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No pun intended, but I used to teach Remiadial Math........... So let me break this down to the lowest commmon denominator for you all.

ThisCurse

Did you teach other remiadial cIasses?

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Is this thur. NPDs? If so, then how good of a day would it be fore cows. they get Arguably the biggest game of the year (MGS 4) and they could get a month where they outsold 360. (Maybe)black_awpN1

i dont think that there is an argument. GTA4 is the biggest game of this year, not MGS4

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#67 carljohnson3456
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I do see MGS4 helping a lot in Japan but the gap is still 5.85 million or something. With 7 months left until the end of the year, that means the PS3 will have to outsell the 360 by roughly 900,000 consoles a month. It won't overtake the 360 this year, but it definately will in 2009, I literally bet my life on it.Floppy_Jim

lol Dont do that Floppy! Never put your life in the hands of Sony, lol. Just kidding.

I do think it will happen eventually too. Late 2009/2010 looks to be the time.

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[QUOTE="ThisCurse"]

No pun intended, but I used to teach Remiadial Math........... So let me break this down to the lowest commmon denominator for you all.

SSCyborg

Did you teach other remiadial cIasses?

This made me laugh.... alot.

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#69 richest_boy
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[QUOTE="Hypochondria9"][QUOTE="ThisCurse"]

Not this again! Fact is that the PS3 has ALREADY outsold the 360.

PS3 had been out for 20 months with and average of 655,500 units per month sold

Xbox 360 has been out for 32 months with an average of 593,343 units per month sold.

Do you see how the PS3 number is bigger??? Yeah, that means they are ahead.

You MS fanboys keep hiding behind the 1 year head start and claim you are "ahead". Whatever! If thats what you need to do to convince yourself that you didnt flush $500 down the toilet.

Eventually, Yes, the PS3 will surpass the 360 in TOTAL SALES, and then the tears will flow. Overcoming a one year headstart and smashing the Xbox into historic system failure along with the Dreamcast and Gizmodo. Ohhhh maaan, LOL

ThisCurse

(20months)(655,500units/month)=13,110,000 total units sold(PS3)

(32months)(593,343units/month)=18,986,976 total units sold(360)

do you see how the 360 number is bigger that means the 360 has sold more consoles and are ahead in sales.

So with your numbers the 360 is ahead by 5,876,976 consoles sold, again with your numbers the PS3 is outselling the 360 by 62,157 consoles a month. So it would take the PS3 roughly 7 and a half years to tie in sales with the 360, assuming there is no change in your numbers.

Edit: I do think the PS3 will pass the 360 in sales in a couple years, I just wanted to see how this guys numbers would play out so I figured I would post it.

No pun intended, but I used to teach Remiadial Math........... So let me break this down to the lowest commmon denominator for you all.

PS3 - 20 months of sales = 13,110,000 units sold (20 months X 655,500)

Xbox360 20 months of sales =11,866,860 units sold (20 months X 593,343)

PS3 = ahead in sales period. You HAVE to compare 20 months to 20 months. Again, MS fanboys try to confuse numbers by throwing that 12 month head start in there. No, not working for you buddy.

And it wont be long before PS3 overcomes the 360 in TOTAL sales. I mean the 360 is fizzling out being the oldest system and MGS4 will push tons of new sales.

Not that I care one way or the other which company "wins" or makes more money, I just want the facts to be seen. So many bullcrap claims on here and I cant ignore them all.

and i surpose its not sonys fault for leaving the customer out cold at chistmas in the uk 2 years ago. I have a 360 because sony took to long in releasing their console.

and yes the ps3's sales will spike when mgs4 comes out, but then 360's sales will spike to when gears 2 comes out.

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#70 clone01
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you'll definitely see a spike with MGS4. heck, that's when i'm getting mine. PS3 will probably surpass 360 worldwide, but not for some time. sony just isn't the juggernaut it used to be.

oh, and unrelated. the God of War PSP is SWEEEEEEEEEEEEET!

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The PS3 couldn't even outsell the 360 in the months where 2 games associated with a Playstation were release, GT5p and GTA IV. But this is the same ol same debate which shouldn't even be a debate because the PS3 will need to sell XXXX amount consistantly till the end of the year while the Xbox 360 will need to completely stop selling at all. That's the only way it'll exceed sales. But that's not going to happen. Play B3yond.

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#72 GARRYTH
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2010 at the earliest

360 has more popular titles coming out. 360 is cheaper. 360 is getting more support. 360 is still favoured by devs. 360 is doing better in america

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says who the 360 fanboy. mgs 4 is larger than any 360 game this year. plus lbp is the talk at every show sence it was first shown. 360 is not getting more support just because of that one game called command the con what ever it is does not mean 360 is getting more support. all mutiplats are mutiplats.

360 has been geting out sold world wide even with your cheaper argument.

if the sales spike get larger for teh ps 3 in the us this year then i see it out selling the 360 this year because it sells the most every were else.

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i think it'll be before the holidays of 2009
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#74 GARRYTH
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The PS3 couldn't even outsell the 360 in the months where 2 games associated with a Playstation were release, GT5p and GTA IV. But this is the same ol same debate which shouldn't even be a debate because the PS3 will need to sell XXXX amount consistantly till the end of the year while the Xbox 360 will need to completely stop selling at all. That's the only way it'll exceed sales. But that's not going to happen. Play B3yond.

ReverseCycology

stop looking at US sales only here. europe and japan has sony and has been out selling 360 sence the ps 3 stating selling.

i mean ps 3 out sold the 360 world wide in 2007 evn when halo,mass effect, bioshock ect. cameout. now add the 2008 line up for the ps 3 you see even more ps 3 world wide than the 360.

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#75 ReverseCycology
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[QUOTE="ReverseCycology"]

The PS3 couldn't even outsell the 360 in the months where 2 games associated with a Playstation were release, GT5p and GTA IV. But this is the same ol same debate which shouldn't even be a debate because the PS3 will need to sell XXXX amount consistantly till the end of the year while the Xbox 360 will need to completely stop selling at all. That's the only way it'll exceed sales. But that's not going to happen. Play B3yond.

GARRYTH

stop looking at US sales only here. europe and japan has sony and has been out selling 360 sence the ps 3 stating selling.

i mean ps 3 out sold the 360 world wide in 2007 evn when halo,mass effect, bioshock ect. cameout. now add the 2008 line up for the ps 3 you see even more ps 3 world wide than the 360.

NA is still the biggest, largest, most important gaming region around. It's bigger than the 2 regions combined. If Sony want to surpass MS this year, it will need to take over NA. But the reality is that it will not.

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#76 ThisCurse
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I have both the PS3 and 360. Now with that said, lets really look at the numbers you mentioned. I will trust your numbers, since I don't feel like looking them up, and doing the math. Your claiming a 60,000 console advantage for the PS3 each month, Right? Now, times that by ten and you will get 600,000. Now, time that by ten again and you will get the 6 million lead Microsoft has over the PS3. That's 8 years, 4 months. Unless something happens and goes Sony's way,they might not catch the 360. The way Sony is shooting themselves in the foot every time I turn around. That might not happen. Now, to the point, We don't know what is going to happen with the two consoles, and all this is pure speculation. Lets wait and see what happens, and stop putting our very uneducated, and uninformed opinions out there. Both the 360, and PS3 might go belly up by the end of the year, for all we know. Probably not, but come on, We have no idea whats going to happen.loftus42

D- for your effort. No, it will not take 8 years and 4 months for the PS3 to surpass the 360. I will bet cash on that! The 360 is fading fast with the help of hardware failure, over-priced accesories/Live and the fact that is is the oldest system now. The PS3 is coming alive right now and its sales numbers are going to jump dramtically. Speculation? Sure, if that makes you feel better to look at it that way, but is is a very INFORMED and EDUCATED spectualtion

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#77 ThisCurse
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Now go take a business math course and you will find, that those 12 months DO NOT disappear. No matter how you spin the numbers. Now if you had said since the PS3 had been out, your argument would hold a little more weight, but it still would leak water like a spaghetti strainer. Go rethink your argument, and come back. You might find a small error in your thinking.loftus42

I hate spelling things out for people .......but.....the ONLY reason the 360 is ahead in sales is because it was released a year earlier. Its like if three cars were racing a WHITE car (Xbox360), a BLACK car (PS3) and A BLUE car (Wii) Now the WHITE car got a one year head start but over time the BLUE car passed it and the BLACK car is quickly gaining. Does the WHITE car deserve to be called "2nd place"??? NO, becuause it left the start line earlier. You can compare the Wii/PS3 numbers all day long and thats fine becuase they were released on the same general timeline.

All I am saying and all I have been saying is that if the 360 and PS3 were released on the same day.............the 360 would be behind in sales. It simple. I know a lot of people bought into the original XBox and got burned badly when MS dropped all support. And you're probably hoping that the "little engine that could" will at least not come in last again. But its undeniable.........the 360 will again be the least popular console this generation and if MS decide to do another console, the same thing will happen.

With your asinine argument, we could count the 7 year head start of the PS2. 127 mil vs 19 mil.

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See this?:

Map of Japan

europe

It's Japan and Europe! They've come by to say hello!

US isn't the only country that matters you know.

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[QUOTE="loftus42"]Now go take a business math course and you will find, that those 12 months DO NOT disappear. No matter how you spin the numbers. Now if you had said since the PS3 had been out, your argument would hold a little more weight, but it still would leak water like a spaghetti strainer. Go rethink your argument, and come back. You might find a small error in your thinking.ThisCurse

I hate spelling things out for people .......but.....the ONLY reason the 360 is ahead in sales is because it was released a year earlier. Its like if three cars were racing a WHITE car (Xbox360), a BLACK car (PS3) and A BLUE car (Wii) Now the WHITE car got a one year head start but over time the BLUE car passed it and the BLACK car is quickly gaining. Does the WHITE car deserve to be called "2nd place"??? NO, becuause it left the start line earlier. You can compare the Wii/PS3 numbers all day long and thats fine becuase they were released on the same general timeline.

All I am saying and all I have been saying is that if the 360 and PS3 were released on the same day.............the 360 would be behind in sales. It simple. I know a lot of people bought into the original XBox and got burned badly when MS dropped all support. And you're probably hoping that the "little engine that could" will at least not come in last again. But its undeniable.........the 360 will again be the least popular console this generation and if MS decide to do another console, the same thing will happen.

With your asinine argument, we could count the 7 year head start of the PS2. 127 mil vs 19 mil.

Well, maybe MS came out early specifically TO GET A LEAD on the competition. The 360 was about 6 million units ahead of the PS3 when the PS3 launched, and is still nearly 6 million ahead. You say the PS3 is "catching up quickly"...how is cutting a half a million into a 6 million lead in over a year and a half "catching up quickly"? Your "well thought out speculation" is anything but. The 360 is making a profit and has room to cut prices, sony is still losing on the PS3 and can cut prices as easily...if they get in a price war, it would have to be a very bloody victory for sony.

The "race" started, sony doesn't get a "do over" for not starting on time. It's a 5 year race, and Sony is on pace to catch up 3 years too late. It's on sony to make up for MS's lead in the timespan that matters.

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Before I leave I just wanted to post one thing. Leave the numbers to the companies, because in the end it really doesn't matter because I'm still going to play my 360. I don't need a Sony fanboy to say sales is why I should buy another console. :roll:
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[QUOTE="loftus42"]Now go take a business math course and you will find, that those 12 months DO NOT disappear. No matter how you spin the numbers. Now if you had said since the PS3 had been out, your argument would hold a little more weight, but it still would leak water like a spaghetti strainer. Go rethink your argument, and come back. You might find a small error in your thinking.ThisCurse

I hate spelling things out for people .......but.....the ONLY reason the 360 is ahead in sales is because it was released a year earlier. Its like if three cars were racing a WHITE car (Xbox360), a BLACK car (PS3) and A BLUE car (Wii) Now the WHITE car got a one year head start but over time the BLUE car passed it and the BLACK car is quickly gaining. Does the WHITE car deserve to be called "2nd place"??? NO, becuause it left the start line earlier. You can compare the Wii/PS3 numbers all day long and thats fine becuase they were released on the same general timeline.

Your analogy is inconstant.

In every auto race that uses a grid the front of the gird gets a "head start" over the back of the grid...usually between 4-5 seconds. If P14 is pulling faster laps times then P1...say .10s.. that does not mean P14 is "winning" the race..The place they are in ..IS the place they are in..Given enough time and consistency P14 would eventually pass P1..... what has been expressed many times is given the current sales rate of the PS3 too the 360..This gen will be over before the PS3 passes the 360...

If that is not clear I don't know what else would be...

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[QUOTE="SSCyborg"][QUOTE="ThisCurse"]

No pun intended, but I used to teach Remiadial Math........... So let me break this down to the lowest commmon denominator for you all.

SpruceCaboose

Did you teach other remiadial cIasses?

This made me laugh.... alot.

Yeah I know haha.. remiadial classes, good stuff.

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PS3 has been out selling the 360 for the past 6 or 7 months. The so called system sellers of the 360 are gone and if you played gears you already have a 360. No one that hasn't played gears knows what it is atleast every day joe bloe. But most console gamers know what MGS is, they know what GT is , they know what Final Fantasy is, they know what Socom is.

Man the list of games that your everyday joe blow on the 100 million sold ps2 system knows first hand is outstanding. And guess what, they are all invited to the party starting the 12th of june. You say a spike in sales lol that may have been what Halo was on the 360 but starting the 12th with MGS4 that is what you call a system seller and I promise it will be known as that. Not a spike not a ripple but a system seller.

The only hope MS had was to rush to market inorder to get market share and thats what happen. But now all the early adoptors are trenched in and the guys that have been waiting for their game to come out will start upgrading their consoles from the ps2 to the ps3.

With the 80gig being reintroduced and MGS bundle coming aswell I do not know not one person getting a 360. But I do know 3 guys getting a ps3. And I do know 2 guys coming from the 360 to the ps3 aswell. So come the 12th I know of 5 ps3's that are going to be sold. Now how many other ps3 owners see this happening or how many xbots see this happening right under your own nose.

:) Next gen gaming is fixing to start :)

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Unfortunately, it seems as though the brick wall of reality is preventing your prediction from driving into the realm of possibilty.

Re-work your math...

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[QUOTE="ThisCurse"]

No pun intended, but I used to teach Remiadial Math........... So let me break this down to the lowest commmon denominator for you all.

SSCyborg

Did you teach other remiadial cIasses?

lol self-ownage is the best kind :D

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PS3 has been out selling the 360 for the past 6 or 7 months. The so called system sellers of the 360 are gone and if you played gears you already have a 360. No one that hasn't played gears knows what it is atleast every day joe bloe. But most console gamers know what MGS is, they know what GT is , they know what Final Fantasy is, they know what Socom is.

Man the list of games that your everyday joe blow on the 100 million sold ps2 system knows first hand is outstanding. And guess what, they are all invited to the party starting the 12th of june. You say a spike in sales lol that may have been what Halo was on the 360 but starting the 12th with MGS4 that is what you call a system seller and I promise it will be known as that. Not a spike not a ripple but a system seller.

The only hope MS had was to rush to market inorder to get market share and thats what happen. But now all the early adoptors are trenched in and the guys that have been waiting for their game to come out will start upgrading their consoles from the ps2 to the ps3.

With the 80gig being reintroduced and MGS bundle coming aswell I do not know not one person getting a 360. But I do know 3 guys getting a ps3. And I do know 2 guys coming from the 360 to the ps3 aswell. So come the 12th I know of 5 ps3's that are going to be sold. Now how many other ps3 owners see this happening or how many xbots see this happening right under your own nose.

:) Next gen gaming is fixing to start :)

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..... what has been expressed many times is given the current sales rate of the PS3 too the 360..This gen will be over before the PS3 passes the 360...

If that is not clear I don't know what else would be...

masiisam

So, what place is PS2 in? Nice logic.

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[QUOTE="masiisam"]..... what has been expressed many times is given the current sales rate of the PS3 too the 360..This gen will be over before the PS3 passes the 360...

If that is not clear I don't know what else would be...

ThisCurse

So, what place is PS2 in? Nice logic.

Is this generation too complicated to understand?
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[QUOTE="masiisam"]..... what has been expressed many times is given the current sales rate of the PS3 too the 360..This gen will be over before the PS3 passes the 360...

If that is not clear I don't know what else would be...

ThisCurse

So, what place is PS2 in? Nice logic.

In what way does the PS2 have to do with this topic? I never stated anything about the Ps2 as we are talking about "this" gen..If you are going to start grasping for straws then at-least be consistent with YOUR topic.

Below you will find the two posts I have made in this topic..My logic is consistent and direct...You on the other hand have been inconsistent and extremely fanboyish...

[QUOTE="ThisCurse"]

Not this again! Fact is that the PS3 has ALREADY outsold the 360.

PS3 had been out for 20 months with and average of 655,500 units per month sold

Xbox 360 has been out for 32 months with an average of 593,343 units per month sold.

Do you see how the PS3 number is bigger??? Yeah, that means they are ahead.

You MS fanboys keep hiding behind the 1 year head start and claim you are "ahead". Whatever! If thats what you need to do to convince yourself that you didnt flush $500 down the toilet.

Eventually, Yes, the PS3 will surpass the 360 in TOTAL SALES, and then the tears will flow. Overcoming a one year headstart and smashing the Xbox into historic system failure along with the Dreamcast and Gizmodo. Ohhhh maaan, LOL

masiisam

I understand the point you are making, but you are holding on to close. "Next-gen starts when we say it does" does not dismiss the fact in total sales the 360 is ahead of the PS3. This is a fact and it can't be dismissed.

What you are saying is the PS3 has outsold the 360 in "X" time period. This is a fact and it can't be dismissed.

You were on point until your wrote:

"You MS fanboys keep hiding behind the 1 year head start and claim you are "ahead". Whatever! If thats what you need to do to convince yourself that you didnt flush $500 down the toilet.

Eventually, Yes, the PS3 will surpass the 360 in TOTAL SALES, and then the tears will flow. Overcoming a one year headstart and smashing the Xbox into historic system failure along with the Dreamcast and Gizmodo. Ohhhh maaan, LOL"

Why would you contradict yourself?

Why would you even comment on total sales when your logic is based off of period sales? Which one are you trying to push? Total sales or period sales?

[QUOTE="ThisCurse"]

I hate spelling things out for people .......but.....the ONLY reason the 360 is ahead in sales is because it was released a year earlier. Its like if three cars were racing a WHITE car (Xbox360), a BLACK car (PS3) and A BLUE car (Wii) Now the WHITE car got a one year head start but over time the BLUE car passed it and the BLACK car is quickly gaining. Does the WHITE car deserve to be called "2nd place"??? NO, becuause it left the start line earlier. You can compare the Wii/PS3 numbers all day long and thats fine becuase they were released on the same general timeline.

masiisam

Your analogy is inconstant.

In every auto race that uses a grid the front of the gird gets a "head start" over the back of the grid...usually between 4-5 seconds. If P14 is pulling faster laps times then P1...say .10s.. that does not mean P14 is "winning" the race..The place they are in ..IS the place they are in..Given enough time and consistency P14 would eventually pass P1..... what has been expressed many times is given the current sales rate of the PS3 too the 360..This gen will be over before the PS3 passes the 360...

If that is not clear I don't know what else would be...

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[QUOTE="loftus42"]Now go take a business math course and you will find, that those 12 months DO NOT disappear. No matter how you spin the numbers. Now if you had said since the PS3 had been out, your argument would hold a little more weight, but it still would leak water like a spaghetti strainer. Go rethink your argument, and come back. You might find a small error in your thinking.ThisCurse

I hate spelling things out for people .......but.....the ONLY reason the 360 is ahead in sales is because it was released a year earlier. Its like if three cars were racing a WHITE car (Xbox360), a BLACK car (PS3) and A BLUE car (Wii) Now the WHITE car got a one year head start but over time the BLUE car passed it and the BLACK car is quickly gaining. Does the WHITE car deserve to be called "2nd place"??? NO, becuause it left the start line earlier. You can compare the Wii/PS3 numbers all day long and thats fine becuase they were released on the same general timeline.

All I am saying and all I have been saying is that if the 360 and PS3 were released on the same day.............the 360 would be behind in sales. It simple. I know a lot of people bought into the original XBox and got burned badly when MS dropped all support. And you're probably hoping that the "little engine that could" will at least not come in last again. But its undeniable.........the 360 will again be the least popular console this generation and if MS decide to do another console, the same thing will happen.

With your asinine argument, we could count the 7 year head start of the PS2. 127 mil vs 19 mil.

Your example needs work bud, By outselling the 360 by only 50,000 consoles world wide, it will still take longer then 2 years, even if the PS3 has some sort of miracle push from somewhere. No matter how you spin those numbers, it's still going to take a few years. Now i know it's not going to take eight years, that was just a spin, just like the spin you were making. I think it will happen in 2010. And we are not talking about the PS2. So lets keep things in perspective. We are talking about the PS3 and the 360. This generation. How you got to the PS2 is beyond me.

Now I could care less if the 360 comes in last, I don't count my gaming on who comes in first, second or third in the console race. I have both the 360 and PS3. I count my gaming on exclusives. You saying the 360 is dieing is also, just laughable. The 360 has now been in the black for 3 straight quarters. The PS3? still in the red. Who will get a price reduction first? Probably the 360, and probably by the holidays. Sony will be forced to follow, but will not be able to drop as much. This is just common sense. To call my argument asinine, is very short sighted compared to your fan boy argument.

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[QUOTE="loftus42"]I have both the PS3 and 360. Now with that said, lets really look at the numbers you mentioned. I will trust your numbers, since I don't feel like looking them up, and doing the math. Your claiming a 60,000 console advantage for the PS3 each month, Right? Now, times that by ten and you will get 600,000. Now, time that by ten again and you will get the 6 million lead Microsoft has over the PS3. That's 8 years, 4 months. Unless something happens and goes Sony's way,they might not catch the 360. The way Sony is shooting themselves in the foot every time I turn around. That might not happen. Now, to the point, We don't know what is going to happen with the two consoles, and all this is pure speculation. Lets wait and see what happens, and stop putting our very uneducated, and uninformed opinions out there. Both the 360, and PS3 might go belly up by the end of the year, for all we know. Probably not, but come on, We have no idea whats going to happen.ThisCurse

D- for your effort. No, it will not take 8 years and 4 months for the PS3 to surpass the 360. I will bet cash on that! The 360 is fading fast with the help of hardware failure, over-priced accesories/Live and the fact that is is the oldest system now. The PS3 is coming alive right now and its sales numbers are going to jump dramtically. Speculation? Sure, if that makes you feel better to look at it that way, but is is a very INFORMED and EDUCATED spectualtion

I Never said it would take eight years, have you ever heard of sarcasm? Now go get informed and educated more, because you obviously got educated from a bad source. Completely ignoring a year of sales to prove your opinion to be fact, is just hilarious. This is basic business, not remedial math. Don't make fractured statements, and say they are fact. I don't mind people stating their opinion, I encourage it. Just don't let the fan boyism get in the way. By the way if my argument gets a D-, then your argument fails miserably. LOL
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Before I leave I just wanted to post one thing. Leave the numbers to the companies, because in the end it really doesn't matter because I'm still going to play my 360. I don't need a Sony fanboy to say sales is why I should buy another console. :roll:xscrapzx
Finally a logical voice in a sea of poo. lol. couldn't think of a better word, sorry.
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#93 loftus42
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[QUOTE="SSCyborg"][QUOTE="ThisCurse"]

No pun intended, but I used to teach Remiadial Math........... So let me break this down to the lowest commmon denominator for you all.

blue_hazy_basic

Did you teach other remiadial cIasses?

lol self-ownage is the best kind :D

EDIT I feel that this has to be sigged for a while.

LOL, I'm glad someone did that, that was good.
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Unless we see an unprecedented sales spike in the arena of several hundreds of thousands more units shipped per month and 360 sales remaining just as they are now, it's not possible.

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anybody remember when cows didnt like how lemmings bragged about halo3 selling so many unit's around it's release?

i do.

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around the end of 09
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PS3 has been out selling the 360 for the past 6 or 7 months. The so called system sellers of the 360 are gone and if you played gears you already have a 360. No one that hasn't played gears knows what it is atleast every day joe bloe. But most console gamers know what MGS is, they know what GT is , they know what Final Fantasy is, they know what Socom is.

Man the list of games that your everyday joe blow on the 100 million sold ps2 system knows first hand is outstanding. And guess what, they are all invited to the party starting the 12th of june. You say a spike in sales lol that may have been what Halo was on the 360 but starting the 12th with MGS4 that is what you call a system seller and I promise it will be known as that. Not a spike not a ripple but a system seller.

The only hope MS had was to rush to market inorder to get market share and thats what happen. But now all the early adoptors are trenched in and the guys that have been waiting for their game to come out will start upgrading their consoles from the ps2 to the ps3.

With the 80gig being reintroduced and MGS bundle coming aswell I do not know not one person getting a 360. But I do know 3 guys getting a ps3. And I do know 2 guys coming from the 360 to the ps3 aswell. So come the 12th I know of 5 ps3's that are going to be sold. Now how many other ps3 owners see this happening or how many xbots see this happening right under your own nose.

:) Next gen gaming is fixing to start :)

GreyFoXX4

your post is filled with so much false information and so many lies that i wouldn't even know where to begin, lol.

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you're not thinking logically, in terms of numbers.