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#101 Wiishy
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[QUOTE="tek91"]

ok so not one face model better then those two I posted off Heavy Rain

I rest my case

McdonaIdsGuy

Those screenshots you posted are PR shots heavily doctored.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HyubR1rknBM

I posted that, when watching them in motion, they look fake and goofy.

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#102 McdonaIdsGuy
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[QUOTE="McdonaIdsGuy"][QUOTE="tek91"]

ok so not one face model better then those two I posted off Heavy Rain

I rest my case

tek91

Those screenshots you posted are PR shots heavily doctored.

ok so show me one PR shot from another game that looks better

sheeple stop making excuses the face model just looks better admit

Hmm look sir i work with photoshop and i can tell easily when is doctored or not,this screenshot which is in game as well puts your PR screenshot to shame.
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#103 McdonaIdsGuy
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[QUOTE="Verge_6"]Pro-tip; Using dubious, most-likely pre-rendered shots from a game being marketed as an "interactive movie" probably isn't the best way to ascertain the graphical dominance of your preferred console. tek91

dude if I wanted a game footage i'd post Killzone 2 images i'm just trying to make a claim with face models like the ones in Heavy Rain which hasn't been done so realistic in any game and shows the power of the PS 3

My case has been proven

It seens that you only care about your opinion..And you act like Crysis doesn't exist its character models poop all over heavy rain models and yes your case has been proven wrong.
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#104 tek91
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ok this is crysis


and now let me put Heavy Rain

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#105 AzureEm
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Say hi to Mr. Crysis :)

Crysis

And here's a comparison,

Comp.

Now you can't be so blind that you tell me the picture at the top looks better, it looks plastic to me.

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#106 tek91
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This beats Crysis


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#107 tek91
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McdonaIdsGuy can you show a facial picture I only saw the side coudn't really tell
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#108 McdonaIdsGuy
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This beats Crysis

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No, your plastic doctored doll doesn't beat crysis,and stop posting that darm doctored screenshot why u don't find real ones without photoshop on it? I wonder why :roll:.

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#109 SpruceCaboose
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This beats Crysis

tek91
That is as real in terms of gameplay as that man wearing chainmail is. Its a bullshot from a pre-rendered CGI scene.

If we are doing that, how about this image:
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#110 McdonaIdsGuy
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This is more real than any of your doctored screenshots
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#111 Deiuos
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[QUOTE="tek91"]

This beats Crysis

McdonaIdsGuy



No, your plastic doctored doll doesn't beat crysis,and stop posting that darm doctored screenshot why u don't find real ones without photoshop on it? I wonder why :roll:.

Without photoshop on it? Most games most likely use photoshop to make their texture visuals. Is this the kind of photo you're looking for? It isn't "doctored." ;)

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#112 tek91
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This is more real than any of your doctored screenshots  McdonaIdsGuy
That doesn't look better than the picture I put of Heavy Rain and that's a PC competing against a console
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#113 AzureEm
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The problem with the (Not in-game) screenshots that you posted of Heavy Rain is that it's not believeable, she looks more like a barbie doll, plastic skin with no flaws.

But if we use the Crysis engine on the other hand...

CryEngine Facial Expr.

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#115 HuusAsking
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Here's the challenge. Compare only playable games or demos--sources that can be proven firsthand to be making their caps from realtime rendering. Is there a playable demo for Heavy Rain?
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#116 obamanian
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Fable 2 is a 100x bigger in detail and scale game than Heavy Rain and its forests more impressive than anything in Heavy Rain

360 developers do not have to resort to paths to make games look amazing

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#117 Malta_1980
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Fable 2 is a 100x bigger in detail and scale game than Heavy Rain and its forests more impressive than anything in Heavy Rain

360 developers do not have to resort to paths to make games look amazing

obamanian

still waiting for you to add me up on XBL & PSN so you show me the games which are 100x bigger in detail ;)

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#118 delta3074
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does any one remember an arcade machine called Dragons Lair that was released in the 80's, it had perfect cartoon graphics, unfortunately the gameplay involved just pushing the joystick in the right direction at the right time or stabbing the sword button, interactive button sequences are a pain at the best of times, to do a whole game like that is just lame, sounds like a game perfect for the wii. and there are plenty of computers that can do better facial rendering than a ps3.
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#119 godofwar2610
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Fable 2 is a 100x bigger in detail and scale game than Heavy Rain and its forests more impressive than anything in Heavy Rain

360 developers do not have to resort to paths to make games look amazing

obamanian
You are so obsessed with Fable2, omg is that you Saolin? LMAO lets count some leaves!
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#120 godofwar2610
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[QUOTE="obamanian"]

Fable 2 is a 100x bigger in detail and scale game than Heavy Rain and its forests more impressive than anything in Heavy Rain

360 developers do not have to resort to paths to make games look amazing

godofwar2610
You are so obsessed with Fable2, omg is that you Saolin? LMAO lets count some leaves!

Im sorry but nothing graphically even compares with Crysis, after getting my rig and playing pc games for the first time i can easily admit it.
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#121 thesmiter
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why does everyone care so much about graphics? who knows if heavy rain will even be good? cod4 is still one of my favorite online games, and its over a year old. its graphics are totally acceptable to me. the only time graphics make a difference is if they totally suck.
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#122 6matt6
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PS3Breeder im talking about graphics and realism those pictures don't compare to Heavy Raintek91
Then get a PC if you love graphics and realism so much.
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#123 sonny2dap
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Tc the only ingame shot u posted was absolutley horrible, all the other screens you posted were cg renders, so what are you trying to prove? thats like me putting in a dvd and saying check out my dvd player it has graphics way better than any videogame. In short u fail.
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#124 cuddlesofwar
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Oh wow. That's almost as much of an acievement as getting a racing sim to look good. A static "Adventure" (Movie) game
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#125 PAL360
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And cows say fanboys are all the same!!!:lol:

I only see PS3 this, Killzone2 that....jezzzzz

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#126 mamkem6
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PS3 does what XBOX 36Don't

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#127 angry_fork
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[QUOTE="tek91"]Here's another masterpiece picture of the PS3 POWER just look at the detail amazing the bones the cheek wow the even the tears are so realistic im in love holy cow this is amazing a work of art  AdobeArtist

Now let's see a REAL TIME IN GAME shot please.

Just to let you know, that is real time in-game. Watch the presentation on the game.
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#128 SpruceCaboose
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[QUOTE="angry_fork"] Just to let you know, that is real time in-game. Watch the presentation on the game.

Its a pre-rendered cutscene element, its not part of the gameplay segment.
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#129 angry_fork
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[QUOTE="SpruceCaboose"][QUOTE="angry_fork"] Just to let you know, that is real time in-game. Watch the presentation on the game.

Its a pre-rendered cutscene element, its not part of the gameplay segment.

Except it is, and it's not pre-rendered.
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#130 delta3074
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[QUOTE="angry_fork"][QUOTE="SpruceCaboose"][QUOTE="angry_fork"] Just to let you know, that is real time in-game. Watch the presentation on the game.

Its a pre-rendered cutscene element, its not part of the gameplay segment.

Except it is, and it's not pre-rendered.

so in this part of the game you rapidly tap the x button to get her cry more? it's NOT part of the actual gameplay segment it' a CUTSCENE
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#131 angry_fork
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[QUOTE="delta3074"][QUOTE="angry_fork"][QUOTE="SpruceCaboose"] Its a pre-rendered cutscene element, its not part of the gameplay segment.

Except it is, and it's not pre-rendered.

so in this part of the game you rapidly tap the x button to get her cry more? it's NOT part of the actual gameplay segment it' a CUTSCENE

It's an in-game, non-pre rendered cutscene, like the ones in MGS4. You gonna tell me MGS4 cutscenes are pre-rendered now too? :lol: Also read up a little more on the game and you'll find out the game isn't button sequences, or play Indigo Prophecy.
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#132 yowtfyowtfyo
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PS3Breeder im talking about graphics and realism those pictures don't compare to Heavy Raintek91

heavy rain=heavy fail the persons face doesnt look organic it looks plastic.

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#133 mamkem6
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[QUOTE="tek91"]PS3Breeder im talking about graphics and realism those pictures don't compare to Heavy Rainyowtfyowtfyo

heavy rain=heavy fail the persons face doesnt look organic it looks plastic.

In what games persons face look organic = in none

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#134 delta3074
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[QUOTE="angry_fork"][QUOTE="delta3074"][QUOTE="angry_fork"] Except it is, and it's not pre-rendered.

so in this part of the game you rapidly tap the x button to get her cry more? it's NOT part of the actual gameplay segment it' a CUTSCENE

It's an in-game, non-pre rendered cutscene, like the ones in MGS4. You gonna tell me MGS4 cutscenes are pre-rendered now too? :lol: Also read up a little more on the game and you'll find out the game isn't button sequences, or play Indigo Prophecy.

you just contradicted yourself, when the other guy said it wasn't part of the gameplay segment you said it was, now you are saying it's a cutscene, lol what? gameplay segments are the part where you actually PLAY the game,cut scenes are not gameplay segments, INDIGO PROPHECY= timed button mashing.
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#135 angry_fork
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[QUOTE="angry_fork"][QUOTE="delta3074"]so in this part of the game you rapidly tap the x button to get her cry more? it's NOT part of the actual gameplay segment it' a CUTSCENEdelta3074
It's an in-game, non-pre rendered cutscene, like the ones in MGS4. You gonna tell me MGS4 cutscenes are pre-rendered now too? :lol: Also read up a little more on the game and you'll find out the game isn't button sequences, or play Indigo Prophecy.

you just contradicted yourself, when the other guy said it wasn't part of the gameplay segment you said it was, now you are saying it's a cutscene, lol what? gameplay segments are the part where you actually PLAY the game,cut scenes are not gameplay segments, INDIGO PROPHECY= timed button mashing.

I was talking about the game being in-game, not gameplay. Which makes no difference because MGS4 has cutscenes which look the exact same as gameplay. What we're talking about is Heavy Rain's graphics, those cutscenes are in-game. Don't be butt-hurt because the 360 hasn't been able to do those graphics yet, just accept it and move on it's not that big a deal. Also you haven't played Indigo Prophecy.
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#136 marklarmer
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[QUOTE="delta3074"][QUOTE="angry_fork"] It's an in-game, non-pre rendered cutscene, like the ones in MGS4. You gonna tell me MGS4 cutscenes are pre-rendered now too? :lol: Also read up a little more on the game and you'll find out the game isn't button sequences, or play Indigo Prophecy.angry_fork
you just contradicted yourself, when the other guy said it wasn't part of the gameplay segment you said it was, now you are saying it's a cutscene, lol what? gameplay segments are the part where you actually PLAY the game,cut scenes are not gameplay segments, INDIGO PROPHECY= timed button mashing.

I was talking about the game being in-game, not gameplay. Which makes no difference because MGS4 has cutscenes which look the exact same as gameplay. What we're talking about is Heavy Rain's graphics, those cutscenes are in-game. Don't be butt-hurt because the 360 hasn't been able to do those graphics yet, just accept it and move on it's not that big a deal. Also you haven't played Indigo Prophecy.

lol i might need to sig that at some stage. pure gibberish.
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#137 SpruceCaboose
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I was talking about the game being in-game, not gameplay. Which makes no difference because MGS4 has cutscenes which look the exact same as gameplay. What we're talking about is Heavy Rain's graphics, those cutscenes are in-game. Don't be butt-hurt because the 360 hasn't been able to do those graphics yet, just accept it and move on it's not that big a deal. Also you haven't played Indigo Prophecy.angry_fork
The cutscenes in MGS4 are not the same as the gameplay. The transition into and out of them are fairly seamless so that it seems like they are the same, but the cutscene visuals are improved over the gameplay's visuals.

And in-game or not, they are not gameplay visuals. The presentation that was given features a noticible drop in quality between the QTE and the non-interactive segments.
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#138 Mongo-Boss
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That commercial wasn't about the NES/SNES :|

And I picked Sega back then with no regrets :D

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#139 angry_fork
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[QUOTE="angry_fork"][QUOTE="delta3074"]you just contradicted yourself, when the other guy said it wasn't part of the gameplay segment you said it was, now you are saying it's a cutscene, lol what? gameplay segments are the part where you actually PLAY the game,cut scenes are not gameplay segments, INDIGO PROPHECY= timed button mashing.marklarmer
I was talking about the game being in-game, not gameplay. Which makes no difference because MGS4 has cutscenes which look the exact same as gameplay. What we're talking about is Heavy Rain's graphics, those cutscenes are in-game. Don't be butt-hurt because the 360 hasn't been able to do those graphics yet, just accept it and move on it's not that big a deal. Also you haven't played Indigo Prophecy.

lol i might need to sig that at some stage. pure gibberish.

If it's wrong you'd be able to show me a game that matches Heavy Rain or Killzone 2 ...but you can't, which is why 360 hasn't been able to do it yet. Does that mean it's impossible? No, it just means it hasn't done it yet, which is what I said, and is correct.
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#140 SecretPolice
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Just doesn't work as well as the old: Sega does what Nintendont ! :P
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#141 angry_fork
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the cutscene visuals are improved over the gameplay's visuals.

They look the same. If there's a difference it's minimal, otherwise you'd notice the transition.

Just like Heavy Rain.

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#142 SpruceCaboose
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[QUOTE="marklarmer"][QUOTE="angry_fork"] I was talking about the game being in-game, not gameplay. Which makes no difference because MGS4 has cutscenes which look the exact same as gameplay. What we're talking about is Heavy Rain's graphics, those cutscenes are in-game. Don't be butt-hurt because the 360 hasn't been able to do those graphics yet, just accept it and move on it's not that big a deal. Also you haven't played Indigo Prophecy.angry_fork
lol i might need to sig that at some stage. pure gibberish.

If it's wrong you'd be able to show me a game that matches Heavy Rain or Killzone 2 ...but you can't, which is why 360 hasn't been able to do it yet. Does that mean it's impossible? No, it just means it hasn't done it yet, which is what I said, and is correct.

What does the 360 have to do with what you wrote to begin with?
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#143 Floppy_Jim
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The 360 could probably produce a game to rival the graphics of Heavy Rain. As for KZ 2........I honestly doubt it.
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#144 delta3074
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[QUOTE="angry_fork"][QUOTE="delta3074"][QUOTE="angry_fork"] It's an in-game, non-pre rendered cutscene, like the ones in MGS4. You gonna tell me MGS4 cutscenes are pre-rendered now too? :lol: Also read up a little more on the game and you'll find out the game isn't button sequences, or play Indigo Prophecy.

you just contradicted yourself, when the other guy said it wasn't part of the gameplay segment you said it was, now you are saying it's a cutscene, lol what? gameplay segments are the part where you actually PLAY the game,cut scenes are not gameplay segments, INDIGO PROPHECY= timed button mashing.

I was talking about the game being in-game, not gameplay. Which makes no difference because MGS4 has cutscenes which look the exact same as gameplay. What we're talking about is Heavy Rain's graphics, those cutscenes are in-game. Don't be butt-hurt because the 360 hasn't been able to do those graphics yet, just accept it and move on it's not that big a deal. Also you haven't played Indigo Prophecy.

why would i be butt hurt, i've been playing games since the zx spectrum, i don't care about graphics, my GOTY from last year was left4dead (a real graphics masterpeice eh) graphics mean nothing if it has no substance in the gameplay dept, you make me laugh, you contradicred yourself end of, don't try that damage control crap with me. oh and by the way i have played fahrenheit on the xbox (for about 20 minutes)
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#145 deactivated-5e836a855beb2
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Funny thing is, it doesn't matter if PS3 has better graphics because they aren't better enough to matter to graphic whores (who will buy a PC if they REALLY care). What matters between the PS3 and 360 at this point is game variety and library.
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#146 SpruceCaboose
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[QUOTE="SpruceCaboose"][QUOTE="angry_fork"] I was talking about the game being in-game, not gameplay. Which makes no difference because MGS4 has cutscenes which look the exact same as gameplay. What we're talking about is Heavy Rain's graphics, those cutscenes are in-game. Don't be butt-hurt because the 360 hasn't been able to do those graphics yet, just accept it and move on it's not that big a deal. Also you haven't played Indigo Prophecy.angry_fork
the cutscene visuals are improved over the gameplay's visuals.

They look the same. If there's a difference it's minimal, otherwise you'd notice the transition. Just like Heavy Rain.

There is a difference, and its not minimal. At least it wasn't to me, since I noticed the transition. There was never a time I tried to play the cutscene or watch the gameplay, and it was not due just to the HUD.

Seamless is not the same as unnoticeable. I notice the aspect shift in The Dark Knight, but its seamless.
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#147 angry_fork
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[QUOTE="angry_fork"][QUOTE="marklarmer"]you just contradicted yourself, when the other guy said it wasn't part of the gameplay segment you said it was, now you are saying it's a cutscene, lol what? gameplay segments are the part where you actually PLAY the game,cut scenes are not gameplay segments, INDIGO PROPHECY= timed button mashing.SpruceCaboose
I was talking about the game being in-game, not gameplay. Which makes no difference because MGS4 has cutscenes which look the exact same as gameplay. What we're talking about is Heavy Rain's graphics, those cutscenes are in-game. Don't be butt-hurt because the 360 hasn't been able to do those graphics yet, just accept it and move on it's not that big a deal. Also you haven't played Indigo Prophecy.

why would i be butt hurt, i've been playing games since the zx spectrum, i don't care about graphics, my GOTY from last year was left4dead (a real graphics masterpeice eh) graphics mean nothing if it has no substance in the gameplay dept, you make me laugh, you contradicred yourself end of, don't try that damage control crap with me.

I have Left 4 Dead on PC with max settings. The character models are great and some floors look good, and the fire looks great, but everything else is far from a graphics masterpiece. Left 4 Dead would suck without the mods PC offers.
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#148 angry_fork
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[QUOTE="SpruceCaboose"][QUOTE="angry_fork"][QUOTE="marklarmer"] lol i might need to sig that at some stage. pure gibberish.

If it's wrong you'd be able to show me a game that matches Heavy Rain or Killzone 2 ...but you can't, which is why 360 hasn't been able to do it yet. Does that mean it's impossible? No, it just means it hasn't done it yet, which is what I said, and is correct.

What does the 360 have to do with what you wrote to begin with?

That's what this topic is about.
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[QUOTE="angry_fork"][QUOTE="SpruceCaboose"][QUOTE="angry_fork"] I was talking about the game being in-game, not gameplay. Which makes no difference because MGS4 has cutscenes which look the exact same as gameplay. What we're talking about is Heavy Rain's graphics, those cutscenes are in-game. Don't be butt-hurt because the 360 hasn't been able to do those graphics yet, just accept it and move on it's not that big a deal. Also you haven't played Indigo Prophecy.

why would i be butt hurt, i've been playing games since the zx spectrum, i don't care about graphics, my GOTY from last year was left4dead (a real graphics masterpeice eh) graphics mean nothing if it has no substance in the gameplay dept, you make me laugh, you contradicred yourself end of, don't try that damage control crap with me.

I have Left 4 Dead on PC with max settings. The character models are great and some floors look good, and the fire looks great, but everything else is far from a graphics masterpiece. Left 4 Dead would suck without the mods PC offers.

That was not my quote.
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#150 SpruceCaboose
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[QUOTE="angry_fork"] That's what this topic is about.

The topic, sure, but the discussion in that line was about Heavy Rain and cutscenes. Throwing the 360 in there was almost a non sequitur.