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#151 delta3074
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[QUOTE="angry_fork"][QUOTE="SpruceCaboose"][QUOTE="angry_fork"] I was talking about the game being in-game, not gameplay. Which makes no difference because MGS4 has cutscenes which look the exact same as gameplay. What we're talking about is Heavy Rain's graphics, those cutscenes are in-game. Don't be butt-hurt because the 360 hasn't been able to do those graphics yet, just accept it and move on it's not that big a deal. Also you haven't played Indigo Prophecy.

why would i be butt hurt, i've been playing games since the zx spectrum, i don't care about graphics, my GOTY from last year was left4dead (a real graphics masterpeice eh) graphics mean nothing if it has no substance in the gameplay dept, you make me laugh, you contradicred yourself end of, don't try that damage control crap with me.

I have Left 4 Dead on PC with max settings. The character models are great and some floors look good, and the fire looks great, but everything else is far from a graphics masterpiece. Left 4 Dead would suck without the mods PC offers.

firstly i don't know what happened, but the comment was mine not spruce caboose, i was making a point about left4dead ie i'm obviously not a graphics whore if i think left4dead is GOTY 2008, so why would i be jeleous over graphics, i see you missed my point about having played fahrenheit on the xbox.
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#152 angry_fork
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[QUOTE="angry_fork"][QUOTE="SpruceCaboose"]why would i be butt hurt, i've been playing games since the zx spectrum, i don't care about graphics, my GOTY from last year was left4dead (a real graphics masterpeice eh) graphics mean nothing if it has no substance in the gameplay dept, you make me laugh, you contradicred yourself end of, don't try that damage control crap with me.SpruceCaboose
I have Left 4 Dead on PC with max settings. The character models are great and some floors look good, and the fire looks great, but everything else is far from a graphics masterpiece. Left 4 Dead would suck without the mods PC offers.

That was not my quote.

Yea I know sorry about that, I tried to reply to both of you and Gamespots HTML crap kept coming up I did your name by accident, was too lazy to change it.
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#153 McdonaIdsGuy
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The 360 could probably produce a game to rival the graphics of Heavy Rain. As for KZ 2........I honestly doubt it.Floppy_Jim
You sure bout that? take a trip to this forum and realize that developers who know what they are talking about don't agree with you..even developers working on ps3.. http://forum.beyond3d.com/showthread.php?t=51783&page=3
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#154 LosDaddie
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These threads really need to stop. No wonder System Wars hates cows.CajunShooter

QFT

Anyone with even a basic grasp of game development knows neither the PS3 or Xbox360 can produce/handle a game the other console cannot.

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#155 Floppy_Jim
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[QUOTE="Floppy_Jim"]The 360 could probably produce a game to rival the graphics of Heavy Rain. As for KZ 2........I honestly doubt it.McdonaIdsGuy
You sure bout that? take a trip to this forum and realize that developers who know what they are talking about don't agree with you..even developers working on ps3.. http://forum.beyond3d.com/showthread.php?t=51783&page=3

I gotta admit, a lot of the techincal talk on that thread went over my head. But since the game is Sony-owned, we'll never know if KZ 2 is possible on the 360 in it's current form. Even so, I'm not saying the power gap between the consoles is huge, just that the PS3 has a slight edge.
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#156 LosDaddie
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The 360 could probably produce a game to rival the graphics of Heavy Rain. As for KZ 2........I honestly doubt it.Floppy_Jim

I'd love for you to explain why, technically, the Xbox360 couldn't handle KZ2's graphics. :)

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#157 McdonaIdsGuy
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[QUOTE="McdonaIdsGuy"][QUOTE="Floppy_Jim"]The 360 could probably produce a game to rival the graphics of Heavy Rain. As for KZ 2........I honestly doubt it.Floppy_Jim
You sure bout that? take a trip to this forum and realize that developers who know what they are talking about don't agree with you..even developers working on ps3.. http://forum.beyond3d.com/showthread.php?t=51783&page=3

I gotta admit, a lot of the techincal talk on that thread went over my head. But since the game is Sony-owned, we'll never know if KZ 2 is possible on the 360 in it's current form. Even so, I'm not saying the power gap between the consoles is huge, just that the PS3 has a slight edge.

There was a lot tech talk but as u can see real developers (not fanboys from this board) don't claim that KZ2 is not possible on xbox 360,infact they think is capable of running a game like that.
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#158 crazy-player
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*pics* More here http://scrawlfx.com/gallery/star-ocean-the-last-hope/ PS3Breeder
Good job posting touched-up screens, I see no jaggies in them... and a few of them are cut scenes.
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#159 Chaos_HL21
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What is with all this hyping of graphics, from the gameplay I seen of Heavy Rain, it looks like one long QTE, or a game wtih a ton of QTEs.

EDIT: Also just because a console has more power doesn't mean it will win. IIRC the SNES beats the Genesis, so using that "Sega does what Nintendon't" line may not be the best thing to use.

[QUOTE="obamanian"]

Fable 2 is a 100x bigger in detail and scale game than Heavy Rain and its forests more impressive than anything in Heavy Rain

360 developers do not have to resort to paths to make games look amazing

godofwar2610

You are so obsessed with Fable2, omg is that you Saolin? LMAO lets count some leaves!

I really think Saolin/obamanian is a Fakeboy, He is just trying way too hard,

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#160 delta3074
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[QUOTE="Floppy_Jim"]The 360 could probably produce a game to rival the graphics of Heavy Rain. As for KZ 2........I honestly doubt it.LosDaddie

I'd love for you to explain why, technically, the Xbox360 couldn't handle KZ2's graphics. :)

how do you know it can't.
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#161 swazidoughman
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[QUOTE="Floppy_Jim"]The 360 could probably produce a game to rival the graphics of Heavy Rain. As for KZ 2........I honestly doubt it.LosDaddie

I'd love for you to explain why, technically, the Xbox360 couldn't handle KZ2's graphics. :)

Im sure with enough technical trickery, some dev will be able to make a 360 game with graphics on par with KZ2

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#162 McdonaIdsGuy
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[QUOTE="LosDaddie"]

[QUOTE="Floppy_Jim"]The 360 could probably produce a game to rival the graphics of Heavy Rain. As for KZ 2........I honestly doubt it.swazidoughman

I'd love for you to explain why, technically, the Xbox360 couldn't handle KZ2's graphics. :)

Im sure with enough technical trickery, some dev will be able to make a 360 game with graphics on par with KZ2

Kz2 uses a lot of tricks already.
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#163 Master-Thief-09
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[QUOTE="PS3Breeder"] *pics* More here http://scrawlfx.com/gallery/star-ocean-the-last-hope/ crazy-player
Good job posting touched-up screens, I see no jaggies in them... and a few of them are cut scenes.

    No hint of jaggies. Unless Square Enix or Tri Ace started touching up pics with the HUD. Not even FFXIII in game shots are touched up.
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#164 McdonaIdsGuy
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Lul wth happened to those ground textures?
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#165 kingdre
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These threads really need to stop. No wonder System Wars hates cows.CajunShooter
I'm a PS3 owner and even I hate cows. :|
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#166 Master-Thief-09
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Lul wth happened to those ground textures?McdonaIdsGuy
No one cares about textures anymore, look at MGS4.
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#167 Diviniuz
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[QUOTE="tek91"]PS3Breeder im talking about graphics and realism those pictures don't compare to Heavy RainPS3Breeder
if thats what you beileve.

No offense but I just ran into this thread, I have ever intention to buying Star Ocean 4 but man dude the graphics are not great. Just look at the screen shots, I mean if you compare it to a windwalker type art work then its pretty good. But overall Star Ocean 4 is not suppose to be a visual breath taking game.

The only thing star ocean 4 has is pretty good character models for the graphics category.

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#168 InsaneBasura
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[QUOTE="tek91"] Now let's see a REAL TIME IN GAME shot please. All I ask is someone to show me a system capable of making better face models. I hope that proves to you the superior power of the PS 3 if that doesn't than nothing will InsaneBasura
Don't worry. Soon someone will dig up that Mass Effect picture.

Hmm look sir i work with photoshop and i can tell easily when is doctored or not,this screenshot which is in game as well puts your PR screenshot to shame. McdonaIdsGuy
And there it is! Now I shall post Silent Hill old man and the circle will be complete!

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#169 Diviniuz
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Mass Effect on PC looks amazing, those damn screenies make me want to play part 2 so bad! I can't wait.
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#170 shadystxxx
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Heavy rain looks amazing and i cannot wait to play it, but there's other games on other systems doing similar things.

For Example Alan Wake being made by remedy(max payne) is a similar game to heavy rain, going the story route,immersion through character animations etc etc.

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#171 shoeman12
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those aren't real in game shots.
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#172 Diviniuz
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Heavy rain looks amazing and i cannot wait to play it, but there's other games on other systems doing similar things.

For Example Alan Wake being made by remedy(max payne) is a similar game to heavy rain, going the story route,immersion through character animations etc etc.

shadystxxx
I am buying Alan Wake the Second it comes out. I don't think I am going to leave my computer till its done. It looks fantastic.
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#173 beast667
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:roll: system wars should be changed to graphics wars. This is ridiculous.
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#174 shadystxxx
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This is an in game shot of alan wake for feb 07, the first shot i posted was from late 08, the latest in game shots remedy posted.
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#175 Supafly1
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I saw some gameplay videos of Heavy Rain. It looked good but the scenes were pre-rendered. Most of the time you were just pressing buttons at the right time. That's pre-rendered and you can touch up graphics that way. Nothing to be surprised here, might as well be a cutscene, not an actual gameplay shot.
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#176 shadystxxx
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It should be, it's a bunch of fangirls trying to prove daily that there system of choice is the best, when there is no best/worst imo, thats why i own them all. sometimes i just like throughing in my 2 cents in SW but i know i should not.
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#177 shadystxxx
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Same thing Quantic did with faranheit.
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#179 InsaneBasura
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Heavy rain looks amazing and i cannot wait to play it, but there's other games on other systems doing similar things.

For Example Alan Wake being made by remedy(max payne) is a similar game to heavy rain, going the story route,immersion through character animations etc etc.

shadystxxx
Lol no, Remedy are poopy at animations. They excel elsewhere.
I saw some gameplay videos of Heavy Rain. It looked good but the scenes were pre-rendered. Most of the time you were just pressing buttons at the right time. That's pre-rendered and you can touch up graphics that way. Nothing to be surprised here, might as well be a cutscene, not an actual gameplay shot.Supafly1
You do not understand how this pre-render thing works.
Many people seemed to think that this pre-teaser was prerendered and not interactive, but it's entirely real time and fully playable.David Cage
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#180 tek91
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here's another beautiful picture from Heavy Rain

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#181 InfinityMugen
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Too bad its been taking a long time for game development b/c of the emphaisis on graphics.
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#182 NinjaMunkey01
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Too bad its been taking a long time for game development b/c of the emphaisis on graphics.InfinityMugen
Well I dont mind as long as its justified time taken, i dont mind Killzone 2 taking longer as now it looks better and in other areas exceeds the CG trailer, its friggin awsome. Though some games like GT5, which we do not have a release date for, are taking too much time, I mean the devs even said theyre not bothered about it right now, its annoying... though if heavy rain is taking longer to make it a better game, so be it...
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#183 tek91
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Too bad its been taking a long time for game development b/c of the emphaisis on graphics.InfinityMugen

that's a good thing i'd be upset if they hurried the game to the store to make salez it's better to take your time 360 should learn from this that's why Gears wasn't what it could be t's precessor outranked it.

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#184 leonjuretic
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ps3 and just wait are always there...do you see a diffrence between games now(exclusive or not).My eyes must be malfunctioning since i DON'T
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#185 Espada12
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[QUOTE="Espada12"]

[QUOTE="tek91"]PS3Breeder im talking about graphics and realism those pictures don't compare to Heavy Raintek91

And that don't compare to crysis. Who cares anyway, heavy rain is probably gonna flop.

Can you show me a facial expression in Crysis that looks better than that ?

that game looks like the character will come out of the tv

wow it looks so real.

Yea just like MGS 4 also flopped lol that game is gonna be amazing

Yea I can but since i didn't come back until today to replay I'm going to assume you aren't here. Also I'm glad you choose one of the games cows hyped that didn't flop to make your final sentance, let me introduce you to lair and haze...

Oh here are the pics

I rest my case with two huge pics.

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#186 tek91
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I rest my case with two huge pics.

those don't look as good as the Heavy Rain picks I posted

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#187 swazidoughman
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I rest my case with two huge pics.

those don't look as good as the Heavy Rain picks I posted

tek91

you cant prove that they are from gameplay.

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#188 tek91
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ps3 and just wait are always there...do you see a diffrence between games now(exclusive or not).My eyes must be malfunctioning since i DON'Tleonjuretic

um ok whos talking about just wait were comparing pictures of games I think you landed on the wrong thread buddy

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#189 Verge_6
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I rest my case with two huge pics.

those don't look as good as the Heavy Rain picks I posted

tek91
Your cut and paste fall-back response, I see. People, let's stop wasting time and just let this thread die.
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#190 Norule04
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Don't forget

RE5

Alan Wake

Riddick dark athena

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#191 AzureEm
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People just let this thread die, the TC obviously doesn't listen to evidence and the best arguement that he can come up with is "It doesn't look better".
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#192 naruto7777
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thats almost looks real but 360 won in sales