To those who think an open network will mean user-created UT3 content up the wazoo, consider these aspects: many mods are built beyond the original system specs. That's a no-no in a console, since the memory requirements are hard-set. Not only that, the PS3 has much less memory than the average gaming PC (these days, 1GB is a bare minimum for a gaming PC and you know it--and the OS isn't taking up that much since XP can run comfortably on a 256MB system--I own one). Do you really think people would take the time to find a way to crunch down mods made for 2GB high-performance PCs for use on a little old PS3 with only 256MB for code (and how much of it's taken up by the game itself)? There's also the matter of how to actually get them onto the PS3. Will you download it via the PS3's web browser or something? You can't rely on a PS3 Linux distro to do the job since GameOS and any Linux on the PS3 will be firewalled apart.
PS. Who exactly said UT3 on the PS3 looks better than GoW on the 360? Mark Rein or Tim Sweeney (the latter is a more trusted source--Sweeney's an actual programmer)? And what about comparing the PS3 to the 360 versions of the same game (compare apples to apples here)?
[QUOTE="makaveli73"]PS3 is TOO complicated. it will NEVER be figured out....the developers just arne't smart enough and the cell is too weak SpruceCaboose
Yes, college educated people with many degrees in CS are dumb. Glad you showed us all that.
Here I was thinking that developers who are making tons of money writing code that I couldn't even come close to touching were very talented and smart.
Perhaps you'd like to share your own created, brilliantly coded game?
its only been a year TC. no cosole has been maxed out yet, the Ps3 least of all. theres still juice in the tank. when team ico get their game out, that will eb an example of PS3 being far closer to maxed out.
To those who think an open network will mean user-created UT3 content up the wazoo, consider these aspects: many mods are built beyond the original system specs. That's a no-no in a console, since the memory requirements are hard-set. Not only that, the PS3 has much less memory than the average gaming PC (these days, 1GB is a bare minimum for a gaming PC and you know it--and the OS isn't taking up that much since XP can run comfortably on a 256MB system--I own one). Do you really think people would take the time to find a way to crunch down mods made for 2GB high-performance PCs for use on a little old PS3 with only 256MB for code (and how much of it's taken up by the game itself)? There's also the matter of how to actually get them onto the PS3. Will you download it via the PS3's web browser or something? You can't rely on a PS3 Linux distro to do the job since GameOS and any Linux on the PS3 will be firewalled apart.
PS. Who exactly said UT3 on the PS3 looks better than GoW on the 360? Mark Rein or Tim Sweeney (the latter is a more trusted source--Sweeney's an actual programmer)? And what about comparing the PS3 to the 360 versions of the same game (compare apples to apples here)?
HuusAsking
about your PS, dont pull this "who actually said it?" crap. When Mark Rein was all praising GeoW every his word as law. But now that he is praising a PS3 game all of the sudden he isnt as reliable? What happened in the last year that made him all of the sudden unrealiable? But i do agree about your main post, but thats irrelavent. The fact that it is even getting Mods is big. Im sure there are alot of people who will make mods specifically for the PS3 version of the game.We get alot of mods, and thats what matters...they may not be as much as the PC version, but it will be enough to keep console gamers happy. I mean on the X360 they may not even have as many mods, and knowing MS, we will prolly have to pay for them.
yeah i dont think anything has really looked as good as gears, maybe bioshock but thats really it in the year that gears has been around nobodys really jumped the gun on making things look better, i have to say, one minute i was playing resistance which looked ok, and then when i played uncharted, now that shows some development within the year
I think so....uncharted look ok but i think it pushs the PS3 to it's limits. i mean the cell will NEVER be fully utilized. xboxs latest update really pushs it past anything PS3 will EVER achieve.makaveli73
are you seriously retarded or somethin? its bin a year they aint even got close to tapping into the power of ps3, uncharted looks amazin yh but just wait till another year passes, and as for 360 i aint sin nothin better than gears of war a year after release, DO NOT UNDER ESTIMATE THE POWER OF PLAYSTATION :@
but even with the 40gb, the 360 arcade and premium don't even come CLOSE. the only thing the Elite has going for it over the PS3 is the huge harddrive and the fact that it looks like a PS3 (chill people).
and the original post is stupid. Of course the PS3 isn't maxed out yet.
[QUOTE="makaveli73"]PS3 is TOO complicated. it will NEVER be figured out....the developers just arne't smart enough and the cell is too weak mattyomo99
What? Uncharted only uses 30% of the PS3's power, i think thought by the time a game developper can make a game that uses 100% the Xbox 3 or Xbox 720 will be out... Lolz
What? Uncharted only uses 30% of the PS3's power, i think thought by the time a game developper can make a game that uses 100% the Xbox 3 or Xbox 720 will be out... LolzWave360
Yeah, Naughty Dog said that Uncharted only used 30% of the PS3's power.
I think so....uncharted look ok but i think it pushs the PS3 to it's limits. i mean the cell will NEVER be fully utilized. xboxs latest update really pushs it past anything PS3 will EVER achieve.makaveli73
stop being such a fanboy... uncharted is only a third of what ps3 can do... see this thread lets me know you think uncharted looks amazing
about your PS, dont pull this "who actually said it?" crap. When Mark Rein was all praising GeoW every his word as law. But now that he is praising a PS3 game all of the sudden he isnt as reliable? What happened in the last year that made him all of the sudden unrealiable? But i do agree about your main post, but thats irrelavent. The fact that it is even getting Mods is big. Im sure there are alot of people who will make mods specifically for the PS3 version of the game.We get alot of mods, and thats what matters...they may not be as much as the PC version, but it will be enough to keep console gamers happy. I mean on the X360 they may not even have as many mods, and knowing MS, we will prolly have to pay for them.
-Serpahim-
I wasn't taking Rein's word for it. I was taking Cliffy B's (again, Cliffy's an actual programmer--and now I hear he's on the 360 UT3 team).
[QUOTE="Wave360"]What? Uncharted only uses 30% of the PS3's power, i think thought by the time a game developper can make a game that uses 100% the Xbox 3 or Xbox 720 will be out... LolzRikusaki
Yeah, Naughty Dog said that Uncharted only used 30% of the PS3's power.
Interesting number that. Wasn't that the same number Cliffy B claimed was being exploited by GeoW? Do I detect a sense of "me-too"ism?
Just look at Resistance and ratchet futures graphics. One year big deference is graphics. I expect Resistance 2 graphics to be a huge leap over resistance 1
Graphics Uncharted > GeoW, Everyone knows this. With that said, no games on the 360 have beat Gears yet graphics wise.
Unreal Torn 3 is based on the same engine and it doesn't look better then Uncharted. With that being said, the PS3 has more potential. Wait till Naughty dog and Insomiac make another Uncharted or Resistance. I can't wait till other companies take in the engine they use in Killzone 2. Killzone 2 is the starting point of the PS3's potential.
[QUOTE="iamshivy"]it's only been a year...imapieceofwood
Just look at Resistance and ratchet futures graphics. One year big deference is graphics. I expect Resistance 2 graphics to be a huge leap over resistance 1
lol resistence looks way better than ratchet for graphics plus its a much better game.
I think so....uncharted look ok but i think it pushs the PS3 to it's limits. i mean the cell will NEVER be fully utilized. xboxs latest update really pushs it past anything PS3 will EVER achieve.makaveli73
Thanks for expressing your opinion, but.....no thanks. I will stick to listening to the pros, not the joes that post on these forums.
[QUOTE="Wave360"]What? Uncharted only uses 30% of the PS3's power, i think thought by the time a game developper can make a game that uses 100% the Xbox 3 or Xbox 720 will be out... LolzHuusAsking
Yeah, Naughty Dog said that Uncharted only used 30% of the PS3's power.
Interesting number that. Wasn't that the same number Cliffy B claimed was being exploited by GeoW? Do I detect a sense of "me-too"ism?
But Uncharted looks way better then GeoW. Soo... um yeah. The PS3 is better.
Bioshock and Mass Effect have better graphics then Gears. This is a thread mocking people that say the 360 has peaked. You'd have to completely retarded if you think the graphics powers a system has would peak in a year. The PS3 is more powerful but it isn't that much more powerful.
But Uncharted looks way better then GeoW. Soo... um yeah. The PS3 is better.
Rikusaki
Discounting the pre-render cutscenes and just going by gameplay areas then uncharted isn't that much better then Gears of War. Sure uncharted is better then Gears graphics wise but its a puddle not a canyon in the comparison chart and thats running them both at fully supported resolutions.
Uncharted has been said to have used only 40% of the PS3's power.
40% and it looks that good.
GeoW looks fantastic, but that pushed around 80% on 360.
Now think about it, Uncharted looks slightly better than GeoW, and its only using 40% of the PS3's power, and we're like what 1/2 years after the release of the ps3? Imagine another 3 years..
But Uncharted looks way better then GeoW. Soo... um yeah. The PS3 is better.
Zenkuso
Discounting the pre-render cutscenes and just going by gameplay areas then uncharted isn't that much better then Gears of War. Sure uncharted is better then Gears graphics wise but its a puddle not a canyon in the comparison chart and thats running them both at fully supported resolutions.
Its the animation system that sets the major difference. When you play both, you will notice there is a "canyon" of a difference.
But Uncharted looks way better then GeoW. Soo... um yeah. The PS3 is better.
bkslayer
Discounting the pre-render cutscenes and just going by gameplay areas then uncharted isn't that much better then Gears of War. Sure uncharted is better then Gears graphics wise but its a puddle not a canyon in the comparison chart and thats running them both at fully supported resolutions.
Its the animation system that sets the major difference. When you play both, you will notice there is a "canyon" of a difference.
Yeah but we are talking graphics not animations ;) animation wise uncharted pretty much destroys every game made thus far.
Wishful thinking on the part of an anti PS3 fanboy. Uncharted is far from using all the PS3's potential. It was estimated at only using about 1/3 of the console in fact.
I think so....uncharted look ok but i think it pushs the PS3 to it's limits. i mean the cell will NEVER be fully utilized. xboxs latest update really pushs it past anything PS3 will EVER achieve.makaveli73
LOL is that a joke? Uncharted still visually stomps anything on the 360 its not even debateable.
well lems/cows if consoles have so much power left then how come a 8600gt yes 8600gt can run cod4, bioshock, gears, hl2 eps2 better than consoles? and the 7800s from before x360 came out can run those games better as well, so explain why the so called "super computer" can't even match let alone beat 2005 pc tech?
The cell is relatively new technology, the ps3 has ways to go.comstrikeiscool
not really new, its just and old ppc cpu with some spes added on and the cell wont make ps3 game look better, maybe better ai, physics but not better graphics and the 512mb total ram in both system limits level size and everything. they should have put 1gb in both systems, it would have made them so much better
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