PS3 has 9 exclusive shooters, 360 has 6.. how is the 360 a shooter only console?

[QUOTE="Phoenix534"]

The Uncharted franchise aren't shooters. And Ghost Recon isn't an exclusive and wasn't released on the 360(Advanced Warfigther and Advanced Warfighter 2 were, and neither were exclusive)

Kennysolidsnake

[QUOTE="RedruM_I"]

[QUOTE="Silverbond"]

Ghost Recon Advanced Warfighter is an exclusive.

Kennysolidsnake

No it's not

http://www.gamespot.com/pc/action/tomclancysghostrecon3/index.html?tag=result;title;5

http://www.gamespot.com/ps2/action/tomclancysghostrecon3/index.html?tag=result;title;6

[QUOTE="RedruM_I"][QUOTE="Kennysolidsnake"] Nearly all of system wars consider it as a AAAE.. i even made a thread a few months ago on how i thought MLB 09 should be considered AAA for PS3 since GRAW is considered a AAAE for the 360 and nearly everyone shot me down saying GRAW is a true 360 AAAE for the 360 no matter what.Silverbond

You have not played it. You don't know what you're talking about. It is exclusive.

Let's be hypothetical. If say, Epic made Gears of War 2 on PS3, but drastically improved the combat, controls, level design, and graphics and the game got a 10 on Gamespot. Would that make it an AAAAE?

[QUOTE="Kennysolidsnake"][QUOTE="RedruM_I"]

No it's not

http://www.gamespot.com/pc/action/tomclancysghostrecon3/index.html?tag=result;title;5

http://www.gamespot.com/ps2/action/tomclancysghostrecon3/index.html?tag=result;title;6

mitu123

[QUOTE="Kennysolidsnake"][QUOTE="RedruM_I"]

No it's not

http://www.gamespot.com/pc/action/tomclancysghostrecon3/index.html?tag=result;title;5

http://www.gamespot.com/ps2/action/tomclancysghostrecon3/index.html?tag=result;title;6

mitu123

Where'd you mention PS2? All I saw was PC and 360? I'm not trying to be offensive or anything, I just want to make sure I didn't overlook something.

[QUOTE="Silverbond"]

[QUOTE="RedruM_I"] Lems love to do that because the 360 sucks at exclusives so they need everything they can to compete but no, it is not exclusive.Phoenix534

You have not played it. You don't know what you're talking about. It is exclusive.

Let's be hypothetical. If say, Epic made Gears of War 2 on PS3, but drastically improved the combat, controls, level design, and graphics and the game got a 10 on Gamespot. Would that make it an AAAAE?

[QUOTE="RedruM_I"]

[QUOTE="Silverbond"]

Ghost Recon Advanced Warfighter is an exclusive.

mitu123

No it's not

http://www.gamespot.com/pc/action/tomclancysghostrecon3/index.html?tag=result;title;5

http://www.gamespot.com/ps2/action/tomclancysghostrecon3/index.html?tag=result;title;6

Genre: 360 version is a solid paced TPS while the PC version is a slow paced FPS. The 360 version plays more like Ghost Recon 2 while the PC version plays more like the original Ghost Recon, and I played the 1st 2 Ghost Recons and they aren't alike, I'm such a Ghost Recon fan, LOL.

Multiplayer:

360-Has 16 players and 10 modes: Team Elimination, Team Territory, Team Objective, Solo Elimination, Solo Territory, Solo Objective, Co-op Campaign separate from the main campaign, Co-op Elimination, Co-op Territory, Co-op Objective. There's more options to chose from than the PC version and more ways to customize your soldiers.

PC-Has 32 players and 2 modes: Co-op campaign for the main campaign(you'll need it) and Domination. And it doesn't have a lot of options either.

Campaign differences-Different level designs(PC version's missions are much bigger and more wide open than the 360's smaller and linear levels), mission objectives that while some are the same even though they are done differently due to the level design, a lot are different and even removed from one version while adding another, enemies are placed at different spots and altered(one certain spot could have a sniper in one version and the other could have a enemy with a rocket launcher). The PC version is much harder and more tactical than the 360 version. The 360 version has more music, the PC has a lot less, a lot of it repeats itself. Certain missions are removed from 1 version while added to another(for example, as soon as you start both games, you'll notice that the 360 version has a training mission while the PC version doesn't).

Gameplay differences:

360-You control 3 other teammates at the same time. You can tell them to be aggressive to attack more fiercely. They listen to your orders very well. There's a cover system to use. There's no sprint like the PC version since you are always running. You have to hold the L button to aim well. You can use tanks and gadgets. You can switch different teammates. There are on rails sections. You can revive teammates.

PC-You can control 3 other teammates at the same time or individually. You can never tell them to be aggressive. They don't follow certain orders well. You have a sprint button, and you'll need it to move as fast as the 360 version since you always walk slow. The lack of cover due to the view is made up for a lean n peak. You can't use certain gadgets that the 360 version has, and no real tank support. You can't switch different teammates, you're stuck with the same 3 idiots. No on rails section. You can't revive teammates.

And there's more differences, but I need to play them again since I own both versions.:P

[QUOTE="mitu123"]

[QUOTE="Kennysolidsnake"] ok we need a thread to clear this up.. Because everytime i say GRAW isnt a AAAE for the 360 i get bashed into oblivion and people say im dead wrong and it IS a AAAE for the 360.. they say because the PS2 version is slightly different thats whyKennysolidsnake

Genre: 360 version is a solid paced TPS while the PC version is a slow paced FPS. The 360 version plays more like Ghost Recon 2 while the PC version plays more like the original Ghost Recon, and I played the 1st 2 Ghost Recons and they aren't alike, I'm such a Ghost Recon fan, LOL.

Multiplayer:

360-Has 16 players and 10 modes: Team Elimination, Team Territory, Team Objective, Solo Elimination, Solo Territory, Solo Objective, Co-op Campaign separate from the main campaign, Co-op Elimination, Co-op Territory, Co-op Objective. There's more options to chose from than the PC version and more ways to customize your soldiers.

PC-Has 32 players and 2 modes: Co-op campaign for the main campaign(you'll need it) and Domination. And it doesn't have a lot of options either.

Campaign differences-Different level designs(PC version's missions are much bigger and more wide open than the 360's smaller and linear levels), mission objectives that while some are the same even though they are done differently due to the level design, a lot are different and even removed from one version while adding another, enemies are placed at different spots and altered(one certain spot could have a sniper in one version and the other could have a enemy with a rocket launcher). The PC version is much harder and more tactical than the 360 version. The 360 version has more music, the PC has a lot less, a lot of it repeats itself. Certain missions are removed from 1 version while added to another(for example, as soon as you start both games, you'll notice that the 360 version has a training mission while the PC version doesn't).

Gameplay differences:

360-You control 3 other teammates at the same time. You can tell them to be aggressive to attack more fiercely. They listen to your orders very well. There's a cover system to use. There's no sprint like the PC version since you are always running. You have to hold the L button to aim well. You can use tanks and gadgets. You can switch different teammates. There are on rails sections. You can revive teammates.

PC-You can control 3 other teammates at the same time or individually. You can never tell them to be aggressive. They don't follow certain orders well. You have a sprint button, and you'll need it to move as fast as the 360 version since you always walk slow. The lack of cover due to the view is made up for a lean n peak. You can't use certain gadgets that the 360 version has, and no real tank support. You can't switch different teammates, you're stuck with the same 3 idiots. No on rails section. You can't revive teammates.

Thank god I actually PLAY these games, unlike 99% of the people in System Wars. I'm a Ghost Recon fan BTW, so you can't prove me wrong.:D

[QUOTE="Silverbond"]

[QUOTE="RedruM_I"] Lems love to do that because the 360 sucks at exclusives so they need everything they can to compete but no, it is not exclusive.Phoenix534

You have not played it. You don't know what you're talking about. It is exclusive.

Let's be hypothetical. If say, Epic made Gears of War 2 on PS3, but drastically improved the combat, controls, level design, and graphics and the game got a 10 on Gamespot. Would that make it an AAAAE?

Those changes would have to be to the same degree of the changes between GRAW 360 and GRAW PC.

Because the PS3 has only two of them as AAAE while the 360 basically only have shooters as AAAE and a couple of racing games.

And Ghost Recon is not exclusive.

RedruM_I

GRAW was widely considered a 360 exclusive on this board a year or two ago in quite an elaborate thread. And for logical and rational reasons at that.

[QUOTE="Phoenix534"]

[QUOTE="Silverbond"]

You have not played it. You don't know what you're talking about. It is exclusive.

Kennysolidsnake

Let's be hypothetical. If say, Epic made Gears of War 2 on PS3, but drastically improved the combat, controls, level design, and graphics and the game got a 10 on Gamespot. Would that make it an AAAAE?

What are the differences between the three versions of MLB 09?

[QUOTE="mitu123"]

[QUOTE="RedruM_I"]

No it's not

http://www.gamespot.com/pc/action/tomclancysghostrecon3/index.html?tag=result;title;5

http://www.gamespot.com/ps2/action/tomclancysghostrecon3/index.html?tag=result;title;6

RedruM_I

Genre: 360 version is a solid paced TPS while the PC version is a slow paced FPS. The 360 version plays more like Ghost Recon 2 while the PC version plays more like the original Ghost Recon, and I played the 1st 2 Ghost Recons and they aren't alike, I'm such a Ghost Recon fan, LOL.

Multiplayer:

360-Has 16 players and 10 modes: Team Elimination, Team Territory, Team Objective, Solo Elimination, Solo Territory, Solo Objective, Co-op Campaign separate from the main campaign, Co-op Elimination, Co-op Territory, Co-op Objective. There's more options to chose from than the PC version and more ways to customize your soldiers.

PC-Has 32 players and 2 modes: Co-op campaign for the main campaign(you'll need it) and Domination. And it doesn't have a lot of options either.

Campaign differences-Different level designs(PC version's missions are much bigger and more wide open than the 360's smaller and linear levels), mission objectives that while some are the same even though they are done differently due to the level design, a lot are different and even removed from one version while adding another, enemies are placed at different spots and altered(one certain spot could have a sniper in one version and the other could have a enemy with a rocket launcher). The PC version is much harder and more tactical than the 360 version. The 360 version has more music, the PC has a lot less, a lot of it repeats itself. Certain missions are removed from 1 version while added to another(for example, as soon as you start both games, you'll notice that the 360 version has a training mission while the PC version doesn't).

Gameplay differences:

360-You control 3 other teammates at the same time. You can tell them to be aggressive to attack more fiercely. They listen to your orders very well. There's a cover system to use. There's no sprint like the PC version since you are always running. You have to hold the L button to aim well. You can use tanks and gadgets. You can switch different teammates. There are on rails sections. You can revive teammates.

PC-You can control 3 other teammates at the same time or individually. You can never tell them to be aggressive. They don't follow certain orders well. You have a sprint button, and you'll need it to move as fast as the 360 version since you always walk slow. The lack of cover due to the view is made up for a lean n peak. You can't use certain gadgets that the 360 version has, and no real tank support. You can't switch different teammates, you're stuck with the same 3 idiots. No on rails section. You can't revive teammates.

And there's more differences, but I need to play them again since I own both versions.:P

I havent heard anybody call the 360 a Shooter Only Console... last gen I heard the Xbox get called that... but this gen the 360's library is pretty diverse.carljohnson3456

stick to SW for a couple of weeks and you will hear that.... a lot.

[QUOTE="carljohnson3456"]I havent heard anybody call the 360 a Shooter Only Console... last gen I heard the Xbox get called that... but this gen the 360's library is pretty diverse.Regisland

stick to SW for a couple of weeks and you will hear that.... a lot.

A whole hell of a lot.

[QUOTE="Silverbond"]

[QUOTE="RedruM_I"] Lems love to do that because the 360 sucks at exclusives so they need everything they can to compete but no, it is not exclusive.Phoenix534

You have not played it. You don't know what you're talking about. It is exclusive.

Let's be hypothetical. If say, Epic made Gears of War 2 on PS3, but drastically improved the combat, controls, level design, and graphics and the game got a 10 on Gamespot. Would that make it an AAAAE?

The first Xbox was a shooter console. 360s best exclusives are shooters Halo 3/Reach, and Gears of War

[QUOTE="RedruM_I"][QUOTE="mitu123"] And here comes my post of actually playing these games, and for the PS2 version, it's simply a crappy fast paced FPS that's nothing like the 360 and PC versions:

Genre: 360 version is a solid paced TPS while the PC version is a slow paced FPS. The 360 version plays more like Ghost Recon 2 while the PC version plays more like the original Ghost Recon, and I played the 1st 2 Ghost Recons and they aren't alike, I'm such a Ghost Recon fan, LOL.

Multiplayer:

360-Has 16 players and 10 modes: Team Elimination, Team Territory, Team Objective, Solo Elimination, Solo Territory, Solo Objective, Co-op Campaign separate from the main campaign, Co-op Elimination, Co-op Territory, Co-op Objective. There's more options to chose from than the PC version and more ways to customize your soldiers.

PC-Has 32 players and 2 modes: Co-op campaign for the main campaign(you'll need it) and Domination. And it doesn't have a lot of options either.

Campaign differences-Different level designs(PC version's missions are much bigger and more wide open than the 360's smaller and linear levels), mission objectives that while some are the same even though they are done differently due to the level design, a lot are different and even removed from one version while adding another, enemies are placed at different spots and altered(one certain spot could have a sniper in one version and the other could have a enemy with a rocket launcher). The PC version is much harder and more tactical than the 360 version. The 360 version has more music, the PC has a lot less, a lot of it repeats itself. Certain missions are removed from 1 version while added to another(for example, as soon as you start both games, you'll notice that the 360 version has a training mission while the PC version doesn't).

Gameplay differences:

360-You control 3 other teammates at the same time. You can tell them to be aggressive to attack more fiercely. They listen to your orders very well. There's a cover system to use. There's no sprint like the PC version since you are always running. You have to hold the L button to aim well. You can use tanks and gadgets. You can switch different teammates. There are on rails sections. You can revive teammates.

PC-You can control 3 other teammates at the same time or individually. You can never tell them to be aggressive. They don't follow certain orders well. You have a sprint button, and you'll need it to move as fast as the 360 version since you always walk slow. The lack of cover due to the view is made up for a lean n peak. You can't use certain gadgets that the 360 version has, and no real tank support. You can't switch different teammates, you're stuck with the same 3 idiots. No on rails section. You can't revive teammates.

And there's more differences, but I need to play them again since I own both versions.:P

mitu123

It says Modern Tactical Shooter on all 4 versions of GRAW on GS. It also appears on the: Also on PC, PS2, XBOX on the GS 360 page.RedruM_I

GRAW 360 is a TPS Modern Tactical Shooter and the others are FPS Modern Tactical Shooters.

It's worth mentioning MGS4 is called a Modern Action Adventure when everyone knows it's stealth. GTAIV is also called Modern Action Adventure lolz.

[QUOTE="skinny_man_69"][QUOTE="Kennysolidsnake"] Uncharted 2 is basically a copy of Gears only with some platforming elementsKennysolidsnake

lol wut? You can't even jump in Gears. Not to mention the characters in uncharted are actually interesting (not that it has anything to do with gameplay..but still). The cover mechanic, as stated above, is indeed the only real similarity. I mean, by your logic, dress master chief up as Snake and replace the Covenant with Nano-Tech Soldiers and there you have it. MGS4 (yes you can play in 1st person mode)

BTW, on topic, the 360 is a shooter console because every single AAAE is an shooter except Forza. Let me say this again, every AAAE on the 360 is a shooter except Forza. That is pretty significant. Not including DLC in these findings obviously.

[QUOTE="RedruM_I"]It says Modern Tactical Shooter on all 4 versions of GRAW on GS. It also appears on the: Also on PC, PS2, XBOX on the GS 360 page.Silverbond

GRAW 360 is a TPS Modern Tactical Shooter and the others are FPS Modern Tactical Shooters.

It's worth mentioning MGS4 is called a Modern Action Adventure when everyone knows it's stealth. GTAIV is also called Modern Action Adventure lolz.

[QUOTE="mitu123"]

[QUOTE="RedruM_I"] GS doesn't consider Wipeout HD/Fury exclusive even though it has quiet a few more game modes on the PS3 or Ninja Gaiden Sigma or Ninja Gaiden Sigma 2 which both have campaign modes that can be played with whole different characters. It won't consider Tales of Vesperia or Star Ocean even though teh differences added to those games are huge. Ghost Recon is not exclusive.RedruM_I

I havent heard anybody call the 360 a Shooter Only Console... last gen I heard the Xbox get called that... but this gen the 360's library is pretty diverse.carljohnson3456

Back before Resistance 2 got the same score as GeoW2 and the cows rose up to overthrow the lemmings as the most populous faction on gamespot, nearly everybody agreed that the 360 was a shooter console, whatever that was supposed to mean.

[QUOTE="RedruM_I"][QUOTE="mitu123"] Those games you listed have the same genre. GRAW has different genres for the 360 and PC versions, they don't even PLAY the same. And I own Ninja Gaiden Sigma BTW.

mitu123

[QUOTE="Silverbond"]

[QUOTE="RedruM_I"]It says Modern Tactical Shooter on all 4 versions of GRAW on GS. It also appears on the: Also on PC, PS2, XBOX on the GS 360 page.RedruM_I

GRAW 360 is a TPS Modern Tactical Shooter and the others are FPS Modern Tactical Shooters.

It's worth mentioning MGS4 is called a Modern Action Adventure when everyone knows it's stealth. GTAIV is also called Modern Action Adventure lolz.

360 is an FPS console. That being said, that PS3 list is minimized to the Resistances, Killzone 2, and Haze.princeofshapeir

What FPS does the 360 have besides Halo?Not being a fanboy,just asking because I really dont know.

[QUOTE="Silverbond"]

[QUOTE="RedruM_I"]It says Modern Tactical Shooter on all 4 versions of GRAW on GS. It also appears on the: Also on PC, PS2, XBOX on the GS 360 page.RedruM_I

GRAW 360 is a TPS Modern Tactical Shooter and the others are FPS Modern Tactical Shooters.

It's worth mentioning MGS4 is called a Modern Action Adventure when everyone knows it's stealth. GTAIV is also called Modern Action Adventure lolz.

You think we should use GS's classification over the game itself?

GEARS OF WAR and HALO =Is all the shooterseries I need8)

[QUOTE="RedruM_I"][QUOTE="Silverbond"]

GRAW 360 is a TPS Modern Tactical Shooter and the others are FPS Modern Tactical Shooters.

It's worth mentioning MGS4 is called a Modern Action Adventure when everyone knows it's stealth. GTAIV is also called Modern Action Adventure lolz.

Phoenix534

You think we should use GS's classification over the game itself?

People STILL view GRAW as not exclusive? Let it go people, you LOST. :| Someone has to pull out that monster thread.tagyhag

And yet The Show 09 isn't exclusive even though IGN says "due to a lack of new features and elements that weak play, MLB 09 for the PS2 comes across as a shadow of previous years." I never will understand systemwars logic.

[QUOTE="RedruM_I"][QUOTE="Silverbond"]

GRAW 360 is a TPS Modern Tactical Shooter and the others are FPS Modern Tactical Shooters.

It's worth mentioning MGS4 is called a Modern Action Adventure when everyone knows it's stealth. GTAIV is also called Modern Action Adventure lolz.

Phoenix534

You think we should use GS's classification over the game itself?

[QUOTE="mitu123"]

[QUOTE="RedruM_I"] It says Modern Tactical Shooter on all 4 versions of GRAW on GS. It also appears on the: Also on PC, PS2, XBOX on the GS 360 page.RedruM_I

[QUOTE="tagyhag"]People STILL view GRAW as not exclusive? Let it go people, you LOST. :| Someone has to pull out that monster thread.Derek240

And yet The Show 09 isn't exclusive even though IGN says "due to a lack of new features and elements that weak play, MLB 09 for the PS2 comes across as a shadow of previous years." I never will understand systemwars logic.

GRAW is Exclusive to the Xbox 360 and no one is saying the that the 360 is a shooter only console. Its just that most of its AAAE and the mostpopular games are shooters. which isnt a bad thing

[QUOTE="tagyhag"]People STILL view GRAW as not exclusive? Let it go people, you LOST. :| Someone has to pull out that monster thread.Derek240

And yet The Show 09 isn't even though IGN says "due to a lack of new features and elements that weak play, MLB 09 for the PS2 comes across as a shadow of previous years." I never will understand systemwars logic.

[QUOTE="Derek240"]

[QUOTE="tagyhag"]People STILL view GRAW as not exclusive? Let it go people, you LOST. :| Someone has to pull out that monster thread.RedruM_I

And yet The Show 09 isn't exclusive even though IGN says "due to a lack of new features and elements that weak play, MLB 09 for the PS2 comes across as a shadow of previous years." I never will understand systemwars logic.

And as far as everyone else cares, it is exclusive.

[QUOTE="Derek240"]

[QUOTE="tagyhag"]People STILL view GRAW as not exclusive? Let it go people, you LOST. :| Someone has to pull out that monster thread.tagyhag

And yet The Show 09 isn't even though IGN says "due to a lack of new features and elements that weak play, MLB 09 for the PS2 comes across as a shadow of previous years." I never will understand systemwars logic.

[QUOTE="RedruM_I"][QUOTE="Derek240"]

And yet The Show 09 isn't exclusive even though IGN says "due to a lack of new features and elements that weak play, MLB 09 for the PS2 comes across as a shadow of previous years." I never will understand systemwars logic.

Silverbond

And as far as everyone else cares, it is exclusive.

I dont get how the 360 is considered a "shooter only" console or a console only meant for shooters when the PS3 actually has more exclusive shooters than 360. the PS3 shooters are as follows; Uncharted, Uncharted 2, Resistance,Resistance 2, Killzone 2, MAG, Socom, Haze and Warhawk.. the 360 exclusive shooters are as follows; Gears, Gears 2, Halo 3, Halo 3 ODST, Halo Reach, Perfect Dark Zero and Ghost Recon. Im talking about CONSOLE EXCLUSIVES only.

So anytime when someone is trying to decide on which console they buy and if that person says they like shooters, then shouldnt they instead get the PS3? I mean I always hear people reccomend the 360 to people who like shooters and that makes no sense whatsoever considering the PS3 almost has double the amount of exclusive shooters than the 360 has..

So the bottom line is, the 360 is not a "shooter only console" like a lot of people claim, if anything that title should go to the PS3 considering the PS3 has a lot more shooters.

Kennysolidsnake

Yea im pretty sure Uncharted 2 isnt a shooter but it has elements in it.

[QUOTE="Derek240"]

[QUOTE="tagyhag"]People STILL view GRAW as not exclusive? Let it go people, you LOST. :| Someone has to pull out that monster thread.tagyhag

And yet The Show 09 isn't even though IGN says "due to a lack of new features and elements that weak play, MLB 09 for the PS2 comes across as a shadow of previous years." I never will understand systemwars logic.

How often do sports games have completely different gameplay? I wouldn't really comment on a genre you don't play. I play A LOT of basketball games and even subtle changes make a large difference (such as the difference between the NBA2k games on PS2 vs PS3). Obviously we aren't on IGN, but are you just going to ignore the comments about two different games that they actually played?

[QUOTE="tagyhag"][QUOTE="Derek240"]

And yet The Show 09 isn't even though IGN says "due to a lack of new features and elements that weak play, MLB 09 for the PS2 comes across as a shadow of previous years." I never will understand systemwars logic.

RedruM_I

How the hell is uncharted not a shooter? The majority of the game is spent shooting things and people...

I hope cows realize that the moment GRAW becomes a multiplat then Littlebig planet will most likely follow

Uncharted is not a shooter.

I hope cows realize that the moment GRAW becomes a multiplat then Littlebig planet will most likely follow

kolkov01

True. Although, you know what they'll scream. "But, but, but...it's different!!!:cry:"

[QUOTE="kolkov01"]

I hope cows realize that the moment GRAW becomes a multiplat then Littlebig planet will most likely follow

Phoenix534

True. Although, you know what they'll scream. "But, but, but...it's different!!!:cry:"