PS3 has 9 exclusive shooters, 360 has 6.. how is the 360 a shooter only console?

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#101 Chutebox
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Also, GRAW is exclusive on 360 because it is a different game than other platforms. Stop complaining about that, it won't change.

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[QUOTE="RedruM_I"][QUOTE="tagyhag"] Oh you're right, I forgot we were on IGN. It's probably because "a lack of new features and elements that weak play" is NOT the same as totally different gameplay altogether.mitu123

And you know how that? Opinion? Maybe for some people the game feels completely different. Of course then you'll have to trust people like mitu instead on relying on actual things that make the decision objective like it should be.

What, I played and own these games, how can you NOT trust me.:| I gave you a list, explaining every difference would require to me play that PC version game, ugh, and you don't believe me? Don't let the name fool you! Stop thinking about the name and think about the game.

Even if I believe you why wouldn't I believe Derek240 who's telling me that MLB is completely different in both consoles and make it a very different game? What will make your opinion of the game more valid than his opinion of the other game and a decisive point to say the game is exclusive or not?
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#103 RedruM_I
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How the hell is uncharted not a shooter? The majority of the game is spent shooting things and people...

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So is also in Ratchet and Clank. Maybe all games are shooters :gasp:
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#104 Espada12
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Uncharted is not a shooter.

Chutebox

How is it not a shooter? Explain.. I'd like to hear this logic.

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#105 Espada12
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[QUOTE="Espada12"]

How the hell is uncharted not a shooter? The majority of the game is spent shooting things and people...

RedruM_I
So is also in Ratchet and Clank. Maybe all games are shooters :gasp:

R+C is a shooter as well people are delusional to think other wise. It could be said the last one isn't and more platformer due to the clank areas but that's it.
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#106 Derek240
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[QUOTE="kolkov01"]

I hope cows realize that the moment GRAW becomes a multiplat then Littlebig planet will most likely follow

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True. Although, you know what they'll scream. "But, but, but...it's different!!!:cry:"

I think most intelligent posters are questioning why other games aren't considered exclusive rather than trying to get GRAW to be multiplat.

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#107 tagyhag
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[QUOTE="tagyhag"][QUOTE="Derek240"]

And yet The Show 09 isn't even though IGN says "due to a lack of new features and elements that weak play, MLB 09 for the PS2 comes across as a shadow of previous years." I never will understand systemwars logic.

Derek240

Oh you're right, I forgot we were on IGN. It's probably because "a lack of new features and elements that weak play" is NOT the same as totally different gameplay altogether.

How often do sports games have completely different gameplay? I wouldn't really comment on a genre you don't play. I play A LOT of basketball games and even subtle changes make a large difference (such as the difference between the NBA2k games on PS2 vs PS3). Obviously we aren't on IGN, but are you just going to ignore the comments about two different games that they actually played?

I think I rather go with what the System Wars community thinks about it, considering that you know, we're on this forum. ;)

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#108 Chutebox
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[QUOTE="Chutebox"]

Uncharted is not a shooter.

Espada12

How is it not a shooter? Explain.. I'd like to hear this logic.

Because a lot of it is adventure/exploring. Just because there is shooting in a game doesn't mean it's a shooter.
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#109 young_doe
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This thread is self ownage. Trying to insult the 360 you actually gave respect to the 360 which had a mission to be known as an all around console and not just a shooter based console.
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#110 nitromuffin
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u just counted exclusives thats why

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#111 RedruM_I
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[QUOTE="Phoenix534"]

[QUOTE="kolkov01"]

I hope cows realize that the moment GRAW becomes a multiplat then Littlebig planet will most likely follow

Derek240

True. Although, you know what they'll scream. "But, but, but...it's different!!!:cry:"

I think most intelligent posters are questioning why other games aren't considered exclusive rather than trying to get GRAW to be multiplat.

That's the point I agree, either all are multiplats or all are exclusives. This random classification should stop.
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#112 planbfreak4eva
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uncharted is a third person shooter adventure...so it is a shooter, and counts as a shooter...

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#113 Magik85
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TC....you actually named 7 noit 6 games :) + id also add Ace Combat 6, Call of Juarez, CoD2, Condemned, Far Cry isntincts predator, FEAR Files, L4D, Metro 2033, Prey, Raven Squad:OHD and some other shooters that are only for 360 and PC ;)
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#114 Espada12
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[QUOTE="Espada12"]

[QUOTE="Chutebox"]

Uncharted is not a shooter.

Chutebox

How is it not a shooter? Explain.. I'd like to hear this logic.

Because a lot of it is adventure/exploring. Just because there is shooting in a game doesn't mean it's a shooter.

Exploring? There's hardly any exploring in that linear game and the majority of the time you are shooting stuff. I'm guessing Crysis is not a FPS because it has tons of exploring and adventure right?

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#115 Chutebox
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[QUOTE="Chutebox"][QUOTE="Espada12"]

How is it not a shooter? Explain.. I'd like to hear this logic.

Espada12

Because a lot of it is adventure/exploring. Just because there is shooting in a game doesn't mean it's a shooter.

Exploring? There's hardly any exploring in that linear game and the majority of the time you are shooting stuff. I'm guessing Crysis is not a FPS because it has tons of exploring and adventure right?

Most of the time you are not shooting stuff, I don't know what game you played. The main portion of the game is climbing, exploring, and doing puzzles.

Edit: When I say exploring I mean the puzzles, so I guess I was a bit redundant there.

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[QUOTE="Derek240"]

[QUOTE="tagyhag"] Oh you're right, I forgot we were on IGN. It's probably because "a lack of new features and elements that weak play" is NOT the same as totally different gameplay altogether.tagyhag

How often do sports games have completely different gameplay? I wouldn't really comment on a genre you don't play. I play A LOT of basketball games and even subtle changes make a large difference (such as the difference between the NBA2k games on PS2 vs PS3). Obviously we aren't on IGN, but are you just going to ignore the comments about two different games that they actually played?

I think I rather go with what the System Wars community thinks about it, considering that you know, we're on this forum. ;)

The thing is, why would most critics rate The Show 09 significantly higher on the PS3 than the PS2? For that matter, why would gamespots OWN USERS rate it higher on the ps3 (8.9) than the ps2 version (8.4). Should these clearly significantly different game experiences be discounted?

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#117 Espada12
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[QUOTE="Espada12"]

[QUOTE="Chutebox"] Because a lot of it is adventure/exploring. Just because there is shooting in a game doesn't mean it's a shooter.Chutebox

Exploring? There's hardly any exploring in that linear game and the majority of the time you are shooting stuff. I'm guessing Crysis is not a FPS because it has tons of exploring and adventure right?

Most of the time you are not shooting stuff, I don't know what game you played. The main portion of the game is climbing, exploring, and doing puzzles.

Really? Aside from the mountain level you are shooting stuff most of the time.

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#118 KukicAdo
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u forgot left for dead 1 and 2

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They aren't exclusive by any means, and neither is Gears 1.
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#119 PAL360
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Its just a system wars myth probably due to the fact that every exclusive shooter on 360 is AAA. 360´s A+ lineup of exclusives is incredibly diverse. It includes games of every single genre

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#120 destro123
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#121 Phoenix534
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TC....you actually named 7 noit 6 games :) + id also add Ace Combat 6, Call of Juarez, CoD2, Condemned, Far Cry isntincts predator, FEAR Files, L4D, Metro 2033, Prey, Raven Squad:OHD and some other shooters that are only for 360 and PC ;)Magik85

Ace Combat 6? It may be an exclusive, but it's a flight simulator

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#122 KukicAdo
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Well if we're using the logic of if you shoot at all in a game its a shooter, than 99% of games out there are shooters. SM is a shooter once you get the flower, LittleBigPlanet is a shooter, basically every game is a shooter.
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#123 PAL360
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Uncharted is not a shooter.

Chutebox

Still every time sony fanboys try to own 360 in shooter department, they include Uncharted and Uncharted2 on their lists...

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#124 Phoenix534
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[QUOTE="Chutebox"]

Uncharted is not a shooter.

PAL360

Still every time sony fanboys try to own 360 in shooter department, they include Uncharted and Uncharted2 on their lists...

They want to make it seem like they have more exclusive shooters. Kinda like what Lemmings do with 360/PC games.

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#125 teh_shogun
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none of the PS3 shooters are any good, thats why. quality over quantity.

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#126 Chutebox
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[QUOTE="Chutebox"]

Uncharted is not a shooter.

PAL360

Still every time sony fanboys try to own 360 in shooter department, they include Uncharted and Uncharted2 on their lists...

Well, they're as wrong as this thread!
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#127 Chutebox
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none of the PS3 shooters are any good, thats why. quality over quantity.

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Resistance 1/2 and KZ2 are all very good.
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#128 mitu123
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[QUOTE="mitu123"]

[QUOTE="RedruM_I"] And you know how that? Opinion? Maybe for some people the game feels completely different. Of course then you'll have to trust people like mitu instead on relying on actual things that make the decision objective like it should be.RedruM_I

What, I played and own these games, how can you NOT trust me.:| I gave you a list, explaining every difference would require to me play that PC version game, ugh, and you don't believe me? Don't let the name fool you! Stop thinking about the name and think about the game.

Even if I believe you why wouldn't I believe Derek240 who's telling me that MLB is completely different in both consoles and make it a very different game? What will make your opinion of the game more valid than his opinion of the other game and a decisive point to say the game is exclusive or not?

I've been here for a long time, and at the time of the game was released, we had debated on when the game should be exclusive or not. Not enough people had contribute to tell the differences while many others say it wasn't, so it was a tie. Hey, I tried to get Dead Rising to be exclusive and that failed miserably, not enough people fought to keep it as a 360 exclusive since the Wii is different in gameplay and tech. What it comes down to is us debating and more people accquiring them, I know, it sounds odd. I was willing to believe that MLB 09 The Show to be a PS3 exclusive, but not enough people proved it. I can consider it an exclusive, but the majority of SW has to agree that it is a PS3 exclusive, and since half didn't, it was never acquired. These rules are confusing, I know. We need more gamers and cows to prove that the PS3 version is different, do what I do and list differences and they'll believe you, worked for GRAW.

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#129 Espada12
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Well if we're using the logic of if you shoot at all in a game its a shooter, than 99% of games out there are shooters. SM is a shooter once you get the flower, LittleBigPlanet is a shooter, basically every game is a shooter.KukicAdo

Wow I dunno what to say for this, unlike uncharted those games have shooting mechanics making up an extremely small part of their gameplay and the game itself..... now saying uncharted isn't a shooter is like saying borderlands isn't a shooter because it has role playing elements and quests...

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#130 PAL360
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[QUOTE="PAL360"]

[QUOTE="Chutebox"]

Uncharted is not a shooter.

Phoenix534

Still every time sony fanboys try to own 360 in shooter department, they include Uncharted and Uncharted2 on their lists...

They want to make it seem like they have more exclusive shooters. Kinda like what Lemmings do with 360/PC games.

thats probably a good comparation. Personaly i have allways considered 360/PC games multiplats. Still a great adiction for 360´s lineup

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#131 Gxgear
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L4D, L4D2, Velvet Assassin.

Teh console exclusive term is probably the biggest joke in System Wars.

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#132 mitu123
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[QUOTE="tagyhag"]

[QUOTE="Derek240"]

How often do sports games have completely different gameplay? I wouldn't really comment on a genre you don't play. I play A LOT of basketball games and even subtle changes make a large difference (such as the difference between the NBA2k games on PS2 vs PS3). Obviously we aren't on IGN, but are you just going to ignore the comments about two different games that they actually played?

Derek240

I think I rather go with what the System Wars community thinks about it, considering that you know, we're on this forum. ;)

The thing is, why would most critics rate The Show 09 significantly higher on the PS3 than the PS2? For that matter, why would gamespots OWN USERS rate it higher on the ps3 (8.9) than the ps2 version (8.4). Should these clearly significantly different game experiences be discounted?

I say you play/research both versions, make a thread, and list the differences like I did for GRAW, be like:

PS3:

PS2:

And there you go.

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#133 PAL360
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L4D, L4D2, Velvet Assassin.

Teh console exclusive term is probably the biggest joke in System Wars.

Gxgear

What about console graphics king?

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#134 KukicAdo
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[QUOTE="KukicAdo"]Well if we're using the logic of if you shoot at all in a game its a shooter, than 99% of games out there are shooters. SM is a shooter once you get the flower, LittleBigPlanet is a shooter, basically every game is a shooter.Espada12

Wow I dunno what to say for this, unlike uncharted those games have shooting mechanics making up an extremely small part of their gameplay and the game itself..... now saying uncharted isn't a shooter is like saying borderlands isn't a shooter because it has role playing elements and quests...

There is a fine line between an Action/Adventure game and a Third Person Shooter. If you allow the premise of "you shoot stuff in the game, therefore the game is a shooter", you have to also accept that any game with any "shooting" mechanic is also a "shooter".
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#135 Espada12
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[QUOTE="Espada12"]

[QUOTE="KukicAdo"]Well if we're using the logic of if you shoot at all in a game its a shooter, than 99% of games out there are shooters. SM is a shooter once you get the flower, LittleBigPlanet is a shooter, basically every game is a shooter.KukicAdo

Wow I dunno what to say for this, unlike uncharted those games have shooting mechanics making up an extremely small part of their gameplay and the game itself..... now saying uncharted isn't a shooter is like saying borderlands isn't a shooter because it has role playing elements and quests...

There is a fine line between an Action/Adventure game and a Third Person Shooter. If you allow the premise of "you shoot stuff in the game, therefore the game is a shooter", you have to also accept that any game with any "shooting" mechanic is also a "shooter".

The statement I made was that the majority of the game was made up of shooting so it's a shooter, not that once the game has a shooting mechanic it's a shooter....

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#136 KukicAdo
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[QUOTE="KukicAdo"][QUOTE="Espada12"]

Wow I dunno what to say for this, unlike uncharted those games have shooting mechanics making up an extremely small part of their gameplay and the game itself..... now saying uncharted isn't a shooter is like saying borderlands isn't a shooter because it has role playing elements and quests...

Espada12

There is a fine line between an Action/Adventure game and a Third Person Shooter. If you allow the premise of "you shoot stuff in the game, therefore the game is a shooter", you have to also accept that any game with any "shooting" mechanic is also a "shooter".

The statement I made was that the majority of the game was made up of shooting so it's a shooter, not that once the game has a shooting mechanic it's a shooter....

The Game is classified as an Action/Adventure game, meaning it has elements of both action (shooting, fighting, etc.) and Adventure (puzzles, exploration, etc.), and not a straitforward Third Person Shooter like Gears 2 for example. That's the difference.
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Because the PS3 has only two of them as AAAE while the 360 basically only have shooters as AAAE and a couple of racing games.

And Ghost Recon is not exclusive.

RedruM_I

so that means you dont htink that LittleBigPlanet or MLB 09 the show are either?

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#138 loadedboon
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[QUOTE="Magik85"]TC....you actually named 7 noit 6 games :) + id also add Ace Combat 6, Call of Juarez, CoD2, Condemned, Far Cry isntincts predator, FEAR Files, L4D, Metro 2033, Prey, Raven Squad:OHD and some other shooters that are only for 360 and PC ;)Phoenix534

Ace Combat 6? It may be an exclusive, but it's a flight simulator

this just made me :D Calling Ace Combat 6 a flightsim is just wow. If you want to know what a flightsim is play a real one on the pc and then maybe you will see AC6 is nothing more than a shooter with planes instead of a gun in your hands.
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#139 mitu123
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[QUOTE="Derek240"]

[QUOTE="tagyhag"] Oh you're right, I forgot we were on IGN. It's probably because "a lack of new features and elements that weak play" is NOT the same as totally different gameplay altogether.tagyhag

How often do sports games have completely different gameplay? I wouldn't really comment on a genre you don't play. I play A LOT of basketball games and even subtle changes make a large difference (such as the difference between the NBA2k games on PS2 vs PS3). Obviously we aren't on IGN, but are you just going to ignore the comments about two different games that they actually played?

I think I rather go with what the System Wars community thinks about it, considering that you know, we're on this forum. ;)

We can still debate that, heck, in that thread I wanted it to be exclusive, but not enough people contribute to it.

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#140 mitu123
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I'm mixed on Uncharted being a shooter, I know the sequel has competitive multiplayer, but the campaigns aren't pure shooters, with their platforming, puzzles and even the sequel's stealth sections, I'm split on that.

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[QUOTE="Kennysolidsnake"] Exactly! MLB 09 the show should definatley be a AAAE for the PS3 because the PS2 and PSP versions are very different

How is the PS2 version "very different" from the PS3 version?
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#142 mitu123
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[QUOTE="Kennysolidsnake"] Exactly! MLB 09 the show should definatley be a AAAE for the PS3 because the PS2 and PSP versions are very differentStevo_the_gamer
How is the PS2 version "very different" from the PS3 version?

I do believe they are different, but there needs to be more cows/gamers explaining the differences.

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#143 Stevo_the_gamer  Moderator
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I do believe they are different, but there needs to be more cows/gamers explaining the differences.

mitu123

Ah, they are indeed seperated by differences. Much like how Mass Effect PC and Xbox 360 are seperated by differences, or Last Remnant PC and Xbox 360 seperated by differences. The issue, of course, is how "big" of a difference can there be in a MLB game?

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#144 deactivated-59d151f079814
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... Wasn't it only classified as such years back when the 360 did have a absurd amount of shooters compared to the other genres? That is not the case for today.
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#145 Gxgear
Member since 2003 • 10425 Posts

[QUOTE="Gxgear"]

L4D, L4D2, Velvet Assassin.

Teh console exclusive term is probably the biggest joke in System Wars.

PAL360

What about console graphics king?

That one will have to get in line.

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#146 Jakesta7
Member since 2007 • 2472 Posts
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[QUOTE="carljohnson3456"] Your fingers cramp up on the PS3 controller?Kennysolidsnake

When constantly pressing the trigger buttons, yes.

Thats nonsense.. If you use the RI and LI for trigger buttons like its meant then it wont cramp your fingers

I agree, sounds like somethin to ramble about & for your argument about the analog sticks: http://www.slipperybrick.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/dreamgear-shadowwireless.jpg
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#147 Jakesta7
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How the hell is uncharted not a shooter? The majority of the game is spent shooting things and people...

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Agreed, obviously most of the people saying that have never played it
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#148 psn8214
Member since 2009 • 14930 Posts

Meh, I typically don't play shooters on consoles.

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#149 Racer850
Member since 2009 • 2293 Posts

Only fanboys say that, take no notice :)

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#150 Ross_the_Boss6
Member since 2009 • 4056 Posts

And Ghost Recon is not exclusive.

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It is, actually. It was decided awhile back.