PS3 has sold 38.1m units worldwide

[QUOTE="3rdbass"]

Your missing the point 38.1 is also shipped. Sony doesn't keep tracked of actual units sold in their financials. The article is using the wrong verbage as they mean shipped and not sold. Sony doesn't track what actually gets sold by the retailer. The big 3 when they post their financials always post what has shipped as thatbecomes a sale to them when a retailer buys stock.

ZIMdoom

Wrong, wrong, wrong. Sony started reporting ONLY the number of console SOLD TO RETAILERS last year. This is literally the closest possible number you can get because nobody on earth has any precise way of knowing exactly how many consoles are sold directly to customers. So sold to retailers is literally the best you can do because units are shipped to retailers regularly and are a good indicators of sales because retailers will NOT order tons of consoles if they didn't have the shelf space for them or didn't think they would sell.

Why am I wrong as that is exactly what I'm saying. I was trying to refute another poster who said we were comparing apples vs. oranges. Both MS and Sony are reporting numbers shipped(sold to retailers) thus apples vs. apples.

I can see the PS3 fanboys celebrating when the PS3 moves ahead of the 360 by one system, both system are selling really well, I don't think theres anything to worry about.

Supabul

The PS3 been ahead of the 360 means 2 things for fan boys,one that the PS3 still is more loved by people than the xbox brand,and 2 that Sony wasn't the only one who fall down this gen,since that would put them from first last gen to second this one and that would put MS from second last gen to 3rd this one.

[QUOTE="1stPlaceWinner"]kinda makes those people that said the gap had no chance of cllosing seem foolish now, they probably stll only wanna talk npdEltormo

Is only fans who don't want to see things how they are,the only place were the xbox 360 is beating the PS3 is on US,on EU and Japan the PS3 is betting the 360,so i don't know how people can think that the gap will not close.

Pluse NPD is only an estimate and not really a great one at that when it doesn't even include Amazon(the largest online retailer) in them.

[QUOTE="ZIMdoom"]

[QUOTE="3rdbass"]

Your missing the point 38.1 is also shipped. Sony doesn't keep tracked of actual units sold in their financials. The article is using the wrong verbage as they mean shipped and not sold. Sony doesn't track what actually gets sold by the retailer. The big 3 when they post their financials always post what has shipped as thatbecomes a sale to them when a retailer buys stock.

3rdbass

Wrong, wrong, wrong. Sony started reporting ONLY the number of console SOLD TO RETAILERS last year. This is literally the closest possible number you can get because nobody on earth has any precise way of knowing exactly how many consoles are sold directly to customers. So sold to retailers is literally the best you can do because units are shipped to retailers regularly and are a good indicators of sales because retailers will NOT order tons of consoles if they didn't have the shelf space for them or didn't think they would sell.

Why am I wrong as that is exactly what I'm saying. I was trying to refute another poster who said we were comparing apples vs. oranges. Both MS and Sony are reporting numbers shipped(sold to retailers) thus apples vs. apples.

Oops. My bad. I totally misread your post.

[QUOTE="Supabul"]

I can see the PS3 fanboys celebrating when the PS3 moves ahead of the 360 by one system, both system are selling really well, I don't think theres anything to worry about.

Eltormo

The PS3 been ahead of the 360 means 2 things for fan boys,one that the PS3 still is more loved by people than the xbox brand,and 2 that Sony wasn't the only one who fall down this gen,since that would put them from first last gen to second this one and that would put MS from second last gen to 3rd this one.

Well, to be fair though, Sony has lost a ton of marketshare this gen and had an uphill battle since launch, while MS has increased their marketshare and made a ton of profit which is a huge improvement for them.

So there is more to this than just sales position.

Well, to be fair though, Sony has lost a ton of marketshare this gen and had an uphill battle since launch, while MS has increased their marketshare and made a ton of profit which is a huge improvement for them.

So there is more to this than just sales position.

[QUOTE="3rdbass"]

[QUOTE="ZIMdoom"]

Wrong, wrong, wrong. Sony started reporting ONLY the number of console SOLD TO RETAILERS last year. This is literally the closest possible number you can get because nobody on earth has any precise way of knowing exactly how many consoles are sold directly to customers. So sold to retailers is literally the best you can do because units are shipped to retailers regularly and are a good indicators of sales because retailers will NOT order tons of consoles if they didn't have the shelf space for them or didn't think they would sell.

ZIMdoom

Why am I wrong as that is exactly what I'm saying. I was trying to refute another poster who said we were comparing apples vs. oranges. Both MS and Sony are reporting numbers shipped(sold to retailers) thus apples vs. apples.

Oops. My bad. I totally misread your post.

Apology accepted as there is a lot of misconceptions going on in this thread. I can't believe how some people think that NPD is the bible when it only an estimate of US sales and doesn't even include Amazon in the data. It is more accurate than VGchartz but not enough that I would bet my house on it's accuracy. Really is just another trend chart used for market analysis and that is it. I trust the actual numbers shipped(sold to retailers) reported in financial results as being the only numbers we can really trust as those numbers have to be accurate as stockholders have an invested interest in them. Of course they can be wrong but then those companies could go into deep trouble with lawsuits from stockholders. I don't think these high profile companies(MS,Sony, Nintendo)want to do that.

So the gap is being closed then. And wow PS2 sold 1.6 mil?mystervj

Yeah, people are guessing those sales are coming from Latin America and similar type regions of the world which couldn't afford these cheap systems before.

That's rather close o_0 I guess 360S has pulled it above 4 million now, jolly good show for both machines really.Floppy_Jim

PUlled it above 4 million now? They JUST released that 41.7 million number a few days ago I believe. DO you really think they sold 2 million more consoles in the few days between when they announced and when Sony has announced? Keep in mind the 360 only sold 9 million consoles in all of last year.

wowzers and here I thought it was gonna be 37.3 million :o Im not sure if the gap is going to decrease further this year but Im sure GT5 and LBP2 will help, and PSMove to a small extent.

Yeah but all of this happened before the launch of the new 360 didn't it?There'll also be the release of the new arcade , I only hope Sony does something about it.

[QUOTE="Floppy_Jim"]That's rather close o_0 I guess 360S has pulled it above 4 million now, jolly good show for both machines really.ZIMdoom

PUlled it above 4 million now? They JUST released that 41.7 million number a few days ago I believe. DO you really think they sold 2 million more consoles in the few days between when they announced and when Sony has announced? Keep in mind the 360 only sold 9 million consoles in all of last year.

360 vs. PS3 sales since the release of the "PS3 Slim"/$299 price cut (in millions of units):

July-Sep 2009 - PS3: 3.2, 360: 2.1

Oct-Dec 2009 - PS3: 6.5, 360: 5.2

Jan-Mar 2010 - PS3: 2.2, 360: 1.5

Apr-Jun 2010 - PS3: 2.4, 360: 1.5

Within the last 12 months, the PS3 sold 14.3 million units. The 360, comparatively, sold 10.3 million. The PS3 outsold the 360 by 4 million units over the last year!

Will the new 360 Slim and Kinect permanently turn things around? Only time will tell. But with the numbers we have right now, we can say the PS3 is right on track to overtaking the 360 next year.

Sources: [link] [link]

kinect won't let ps3 surpass the 360

wirey87

I thought kinect had no control... nyuk nyuk.

Just for fun, how are these numbers comparing with VG chartz's numbers?DarkStraberry

I would imagine they're the same now that the numbers are verified and don't need to be speculated.

[QUOTE="wirey87"]

kinect won't let ps3 surpass the 360

Pug-Nasty

I thought kinect had no control... nyuk nyuk.

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Its GT5 vs Halo Reach (system sellers)

Move vs. Kinect

Anything can happen

Just for fun, how are these numbers comparing with VG chartz's numbers?DarkStraberry

Just for fun, how are these numbers comparing with VG chartz's numbers?DarkStraberry

VGCHARTZ-

Wii- 72.8M

360- 41.4M

PS3- 36.1M

360 is bang on, PS3 is badly undertracked. They dun goof'd somewhere.

[QUOTE="Pug-Nasty"]

[QUOTE="wirey87"]

kinect won't let ps3 surpass the 360

lucky_star

I thought kinect had no control... nyuk nyuk.

:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

Its GT5 vs Halo Reach (system sellers)

Move vs. Kinect

Anything can happen

why would reach be a system seller?

[QUOTE="DarkStraberry"]Just for fun, how are these numbers comparing with VG chartz's numbers?Floppy_Jim

VGCHARTZ-

Wii- 72.8M

360- 41.4M

PS3- 36.1M

360 is bang on, PS3 is badly undertracked. They dun goof'd somewhere.

Excellent.

Although, I hope Sony learns their lesson. PS3 is the best PlayStation console they've yet released, but a fall from grace compared to the PS1 and PS2. But they sure made gamers happy this gen with their beastly 1st and 2nd party developers coming out with a plethora of amazing games for PS3 owners.

1 step back 3 steps forward.

And I'm shockingly amazed that the PS2 still can still hit the 1 million mark and it's 10th year on the market. The PlayStation brand is strong.

GT5 will sell 3 million ps3 alone at least since its a true system seller then 360 and ps3 will be tied:D

xOMGITSJASONx

the gap is now 3 mill? nice. and just wait till GT5 (*the system seller*) is releasedLP4EVA2005

Yeah but all of this happened before the launch of the new 360 didn't it?There'll also be the release of the new arcade , I only hope Sony does something about it.

RoOodriGowW

Sort of, the new 360 released in the middle of June (last month of the quarter) in the US, but July elsewhere. However, there was still the price drop to clear out the old stock for about half the month.

Alot of people will see the Move has a huge upgrade from the Wii, since the Wii has sold so well they might get the Move so i think PS3 is gonna pass 360 in sales early spring 2011. Kinect is gonna be limited gameplay wise, sure the tech is pretty cool but theres no games so far thats good and the input lag we saw he many videos wont make it fun.

[QUOTE="DarkStraberry"]Just for fun, how are these numbers comparing with VG chartz's numbers?Floppy_Jim

VGCHARTZ-

Wii- 72.8M

360- 41.4M

PS3- 36.1M

360 is bang on, PS3 is badly undertracked. They dun goof'd somewhere.

Great news for the PS3, but lets face it, PS3 won the first half of the year. But now 360 is on track and is currently winning the second half of the year. With the Arcade slim, kinect bundle and halo reach in time for the holiday season. The current 4 million gap should grow to 6 million, favouring the 360.

Great news for the PS3, but lets face it, PS3 won the first half of the year. But now 360 is on track and is currently winning the second half of the year. With the Arcade slim, kinect bundle and halo reach in time for the holiday season. The current 4 million gap should grow to 6 million, favouring the 360.

super_star98789

Great news for the PS3, but lets face it, PS3 won the first half of the year. But now 360 is on track and is currently winning the second half of the year. With the Arcade slim, kinect bundle and halo reach in time for the holiday season. The current 4 million gap should grow to 6 million, favouring the 360.

super_star98789

its currently winning the 2nd half of the year? 1 month? where? in the US and the UK?

the same places its been "winning" ?

[QUOTE="super_star98789"]

Great news for the PS3, but lets face it, PS3 won the first half of the year. But now 360 is on track and is currently winning the second half of the year. With the Arcade slim, kinect bundle and halo reach in time for the holiday season. The current 4 million gap should grow to 6 million, favouring the 360.

i_am_interested

its currently winning the 2nd half of the year? 1 month? where? in the US and the UK?

the same places its been "winning" ?

Since you dont know what winning means, its been out selling the Wii and PS3 since the start of the second half of the year.

Almost got those GC sales...

[QUOTE="i_am_interested"]

[QUOTE="super_star98789"]

Great news for the PS3, but lets face it, PS3 won the first half of the year. But now 360 is on track and is currently winning the second half of the year. With the Arcade slim, kinect bundle and halo reach in time for the holiday season. The current 4 million gap should grow to 6 million, favouring the 360.

super_star98789

its currently winning the 2nd half of the year? 1 month? where? in the US and the UK?

the same places its been "winning" ?

Since you dont know what winning means, its been out selling the Wii and PS3 since the start of the second half of the year.

[QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"][QUOTE="lucky_star"]

Hmm, i wonder if there are actually more active ps3's out there by now? You RROD % and all....

elcoholic

Don't they? All we get is NPD and the 360 is still way ahead in the US so that's where most people get the notion from that 360 games outsell ps3 version 2:1.

And i know I've bought 2 360's and know many (off and online) who have also bought atleast 2 360's due to rrod outside of warranty.

Yeah, the idea that the 360 trounces the PS3 in games sales is outdated. It seems some people forget that the PS3 sold almost 12 million more games than the 360 did last year, according to the financial reports from each company.

I wouldn't personally use that to infer the PS3 active install base is actually larger than the 360's, though.

Sony's latest financial results reveal that worldwide sales of PlayStation 3 now stand at 38.1 million units, following 2.4 million sales of the console in the company's first quarter, which ended 30th June 2010.

Microsoft announced a few days ago that Xbox 360 has shipped 41.7 million units worldwide, although it has had a year longer on the market than its main competitor.

2.4 million sales of PS3 in Q1 represents a 118 per cent increase on last year's 1.1 million sales, although things weren't so rosy for the PSP, sales of which declined slightly to 1.2 million compared to 1.3 million in the same period of 2009.

The mighty PS2, meanwhile, sold a sterling 1.6 million units.

Money-wise, the Networked Products & Services division, of which games is a component, saw sales rise 32.4 per cent to 325 billion yen, of which games contributed 142 billion yen and PCs the rest

LINK

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So it looks like the ps3 actually has a fair chance on passing the 360, maybe even as soon as next year? Lets just wait and see how Kinect and Move does.

lucky_star

i find it hard to believe that the ps3 will ever catch the 360, at least in NA. every month, the 360 outsells it. im not good with math, but dont you have to sell more to be ahead?

[QUOTE="lucky_star"]

Sony's latest financial results reveal that worldwide sales of PlayStation 3 now stand at 38.1 million units, following 2.4 million sales of the console in the company's first quarter, which ended 30th June 2010.

Microsoft announced a few days ago that Xbox 360 has shipped 41.7 million units worldwide, although it has had a year longer on the market than its main competitor.

2.4 million sales of PS3 in Q1 represents a 118 per cent increase on last year's 1.1 million sales, although things weren't so rosy for the PSP, sales of which declined slightly to 1.2 million compared to 1.3 million in the same period of 2009.

The mighty PS2, meanwhile, sold a sterling 1.6 million units.

Money-wise, the Networked Products & Services division, of which games is a component, saw sales rise 32.4 per cent to 325 billion yen, of which games contributed 142 billion yen and PCs the rest

LINK

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So it looks like the ps3 actually has a fair chance on passing the 360, maybe even as soon as next year? Lets just wait and see how Kinect and Move does.

todd2r

i find it hard to believe that the ps3 will ever catch the 360, at least in NA. every month, the 360 outsells it. im not good with math, but dont you have to sell more to be ahead?

[QUOTE="HarlockJC"]I think the Kinect is going to be a huge success and make the 360 the system to get this Christmas. I can see a point where the PS3 might pass the 360. I just think the Kinect is going to save that from happening any time soon. blue_hazy_basic

So did the Wii.

i find it hard to believe that the ps3 will ever catch the 360, at least in NA. every month, the 360 outsells it. im not good with math, but dont you have to sell more to be ahead?

todd2r

The 360 hasn't outsold the PS3 every month in NA. :| Check the monthly figures over the past year. You'll see each side taking certain months.

Not to say that the PS3 will outsell the 360 in NA, and certainly not anytime soon. But the OP's article is talking about WW sales. Sales outside of the U.S. count too, you know. :P

[QUOTE="3rdbass"]

[QUOTE="Zanoh"]

A key note: Shipped =/= Sold. So how much did the 360 sold to make a valid claim of "catching up" would help aid your topic a little bit, TC.

Zanoh

The TC did mention it in his link 41.7 LTD shipped by Microsoftand in the link itself 1.6 for the similar qtr. So the PS3 sold 800K more than the 360 in the same qtr. Remember they have different fiscal year ending dates. The 1.6 PS2 can't be the QTR totals can it? Who the heck is still buying PS2's?

Key word is shipped. If sony sold 38.1 million units, how many of Microsoft's consoles had been sold? Any company can ship a lot of consoles, but it's how many sold that determine its status.

Very tru statement and Coolyfett cosigns this way of thinking. Being late to the game is something that Coolyfett is guilty of. He has no console but is considering a purchase of the PS3 because of all the recent success the PS3 is now having. It is amazing how it went from loser to winner is such a short amount of time. Just the ownership alone of a PS3 will help Coolyfett continue his reign as the most unstoppable gamer in the world. From news articles and pressers one can only see that it truly does everything. What an excellent invention the PS3 is.

[QUOTE="Desmonic"][QUOTE="Dibdibdobdobo"]The best thing about this whole thread is the TC's Sig and the Emma Sig right after the TC's post. On topic. Ermm.... Nice.3rdbass

How is it possible that the PS2 has as many units shipped to retailers as the 360? Who is buying the PS2? I guess Latin America is really buying up the PS2.

The earth is a very big place. Continents like Africa and South America are incredibly less fortunate than say North America, Europe and Asia...those people want to play games, but its hard for them. Generation 6 and 5 systems is the perfect solution.

I will be curious to see what happens this holiday season between the two. Either way it really is a battle for second.

[QUOTE="elcoholic"]

Shouldn't PS3 multiplats outsell 360 ones if that was the case?blue_hazy_basic

Don't they? All we get is NPD and the 360 is still way ahead in the US so that's where most people get the notion from that 360 games outsell ps3 version 2:1.

And i know I've bought 2 360's and know many (off and online) who have also bought atleast 2 360's due to rrod outside of warranty.

Yeah, the idea that the 360 trounces the PS3 in games sales is outdated. It seems some people forget that the PS3 sold almost 12 million more games than the 360 did last year, according to the financial reports from each company.

I wouldn't personally use that to infer the PS3 active install base is actually larger than the 360's, though.

There goes the 360's lead... But we still have Halo :DNubTub_of_Win

No you don't. Bungie is done with the franchise. The Halo you love is no longer. (after Reach)

Halo will continue to exist obviously, but in name only.

[QUOTE="NubTub_of_Win"]There goes the 360's lead... But we still have Halo :Daubsurd

No you don't. Bungie is done with the franchise. The Halo you love is no longer. (after Reach)

Halo will continue to exist obviously, but in name only.

soooo..... we still have halo, you just said it, durrrrrr

[QUOTE="todd2r"]

i find it hard to believe that the ps3 will ever catch the 360, at least in NA. every month, the 360 outsells it. im not good with math, but dont you have to sell more to be ahead?

santoron

The 360 hasn't outsold the PS3 every month in NA. :| Check the monthly figures over the past year. You'll see each side taking certain months.

Not to say that the PS3 will outsell the 360 in NA, and certainly not anytime soon. But the OP's article is talking about WW sales. Sales outside of the U.S. count too, you know. :P

First of all, these are shipped numbers. The PS3 has sold approximately 36.1 million units, and the 360's lead is actually by about 5 million units. In the NPD, the PS3 has not outsold the 360 once yet this year. Worldwide, the 360 has been outselling the PS3 in virtually every country except for Japan since the new S model's release. Here are the weekly sales since then from VGChartz:

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Week of June 19

Wii: 174,000

360: 159,000

PS3: 130,000

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Week of June 26

360: 218,000

Wii: 163,000

PS3: 134,000

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Week of July 3

360: 191,000

Wii: 155,000

PS3: 131,000

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Week of July 10

Wii: 161,000

360: 152,000

PS3: 130,000

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Week of July 17 (new model released in Europe this week)

360: 308,000

Wii: 154,000

PS3: 129,000

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So far only the Europe numbers are in for July 24, but the 360 has already outsold the PS3 by 70,000 units there alone. As you can see the gap is growing rather quickly now. It should be 7 million units by the end of the year. The PS3 will need more than GT5 this holiday. A price drop at least to match the 360. Plus, Microsoft is releasing the Arcade Slim model, which will skyrocket sales even more when it launches. I honestly can't see the PS3 outselling the 360 another week this year, not even the week of GT5's release, because Kinect launches that same week and it is sure to sell tons of 360s with the Kinect system bundle.