PS3 Impact on Blu-Ray Sales

I have zero hard disk games for my PS3 and 7 blu-ray movies. PS3 at least has one good use right now.

 

Bread_or_Decide

I've downloaded PS3 games, but I haven't bought any on disc yet... on the other hand, my netflix queue is full of blu-ray movies. Go figure. :) 

4. it's really odd just how gullible you guys are.. you do realize they're counting the free bundled movies with the ps3 as a "bluray sale", right..? ;)

tango90101

Link please, or else I'll just assume you're spewing more of your usual.

...

Actually, I know there is no link... but thanks for playing. :)

[QUOTE="tango90101"]

4. it's really odd just how gullible you guys are.. you do realize they're counting the free bundled movies with the ps3 as a "bluray sale", right..? ;)

Dire_Weasel

Link please, or else I'll just assume you're spewing more of your usual.

...

Actually, I know there is no link... but thanks for playing. :)

hmmmm... let's see.. Casino Royale wasn't even a blip on the radar of bluray sales until they bundled it with the ps3 then MAGICALLY it became one the "best seling bluray" titles...

i'll bet you really think that's a coincidence..:lol:

you need to read more instead of asking for links to common knowledge...;)

[QUOTE="darthogre"][QUOTE="Ontain"]

ps3 helps BR sales.

BR inclusion (and price increase) kills ps3 sales ;)

 

alfy13

The God of War dev agrees with you.  I agree with that as well HOWEVER I also think it's a temporary blip.  If SOE reduces the price of PS3 (which I know they are going to do this year) and when they get the good software titles in Sept-Nov, PS3 will be alright.  It might not be PS2 but as you said I think SOE was looking at the company as whole and not just one part.  In order for SOE to win the format war they needed PS3 which once they win would reap great rewards but it would come at a price of not being the dominate game console this time around.  It might be number one in the end but it will not have the PS2's success. 

SOE is obvoiusly thinking the rewards of BR winning + mediocre PS3 sales > PS3 being the top dog in the console market.

Sony is already at 2 billion lost in 6 months... they'll easily reach 10 billion at the end of 08...

you think they'll make 100 billion dollars from bluray royalties...? 

just....wow....

[QUOTE="Dire_Weasel"][QUOTE="tango90101"]

4. it's really odd just how gullible you guys are.. you do realize they're counting the free bundled movies with the ps3 as a "bluray sale", right..? ;)

tango90101

Link please, or else I'll just assume you're spewing more of your usual.

...

Actually, I know there is no link... but thanks for playing. :)

hmmmm... let's see.. Casino Royale wasn't even a blip on the radar of bluray sales until they bundled it with the ps3 then MAGICALLY it became one the "best seling bluray" titles...

i'll bet you really think that's a coincidence..:lol:

you need to read more instead of asking for links to common knowledge...;)

Thanks for confirming what all of us already knew. "No link" means "more hd28guy_basic bull ****".

Casino Royale had excellent sales from the moment it went on sale. Saying that Casino Royale "wasn't even a blip on the radar of bluray sales", is another obvious falsehood.

[QUOTE="Dire_Weasel"][QUOTE="tango90101"]

4. it's really odd just how gullible you guys are.. you do realize they're counting the free bundled movies with the ps3 as a "bluray sale", right..? ;)

tango90101

Link please, or else I'll just assume you're spewing more of your usual.

...

Actually, I know there is no link... but thanks for playing. :)

hmmmm... let's see.. Casino Royale wasn't even a blip on the radar of bluray sales until they bundled it with the ps3 then MAGICALLY it became one the "best seling bluray" titles...

i'll bet you really think that's a coincidence..:lol:

you need to read more instead of asking for links to common knowledge...;)

Casino Royale became one of the best selling Bluray titles according to Nielsen-Videoscan ratings.   You say it has to do with it being bundled with the PS3 for the European release.  I'll give you a minute to figure out your massive error in extrapolation. 

 

Casino Royale became one of the best selling Bluray titles according to Nielsen-Videoscan ratings. You say it has to do with it being bundled with the PS3 for the European release. I'll give you a minute to figure out your massive error in extrapolation.

ramey70

Tango, aka hd28guy_basic, never admits to being wrong. His typical strategy will be to spin his original statement unsucessfully and then pray that a moderator locks the thread before the entire forum turns out to have a laugh at his expense. 

[QUOTE="ramey70"]

 

Casino Royale became one of the best selling Bluray titles according to Nielsen-Videoscan ratings. You say it has to do with it being bundled with the PS3 for the European release. I'll give you a minute to figure out your massive error in extrapolation.

Dire_Weasel

Tango, aka hd28guy_basic, never admits to being wrong. His typical strategy will be to spin his original statement unsucessfully and then pray that a moderator locks the thread before the entire forum turns out to have a laugh at his expense.

You should have been on Friday when he claimed he was older than 37 (yet uses terms like "cow" and "owned) and was a high level executive with the nation's largest bank in Chicago, though the nation's largest bank is in New York and not Chicago.  I even challenged him to post scans of his business degrees with his username sticky noted to them and I would do same with mine.  He cowardly declined.    For a moment I actually hoped he would just to see how sad it would be for a 40 year old man to be doing such things on a message board.

[QUOTE="ramey70"]

 

Casino Royale became one of the best selling Bluray titles according to Nielsen-Videoscan ratings. You say it has to do with it being bundled with the PS3 for the European release. I'll give you a minute to figure out your massive error in extrapolation.

Dire_Weasel

Tango, aka hd28guy_basic, never admits to being wrong. His typical strategy will be to spin his original statement unsucessfully and then pray that a moderator locks the thread before the entire forum turns out to have a laugh at his expense. 

it's funny this guy keeps using the same "neilsen" b.s.. NEVER any other sources...

if i'm wrong, i'm wrong, but sony has a history of counting freebies as sales... so it wouldn't be unheard of...

what other movies were bundled in the ps3...?  let's see how they faired on the charts...

[QUOTE="Dire_Weasel"][QUOTE="ramey70"]

 

Casino Royale became one of the best selling Bluray titles according to Nielsen-Videoscan ratings. You say it has to do with it being bundled with the PS3 for the European release. I'll give you a minute to figure out your massive error in extrapolation.

tango90101

Tango, aka hd28guy_basic, never admits to being wrong. His typical strategy will be to spin his original statement unsucessfully and then pray that a moderator locks the thread before the entire forum turns out to have a laugh at his expense.

it's funny this guy keeps using the same "neilsen" b.s.. NEVER any other sources...

if i'm wrong, i'm wrong, but sony has a history of counting freebies as sales... so it wouldn't be unheard of...

what other movies were bundled in the ps3...? let's see how they faired on the charts...

The reason you are wrong is because Nielsen-Videoscan only tracts North American sales data, thus specifically excluding any movies bundled in Europe.   

[QUOTE="Dire_Weasel"][QUOTE="ramey70"]

 

Casino Royale became one of the best selling Bluray titles according to Nielsen-Videoscan ratings. You say it has to do with it being bundled with the PS3 for the European release. I'll give you a minute to figure out your massive error in extrapolation.

ramey70

Tango, aka hd28guy_basic, never admits to being wrong. His typical strategy will be to spin his original statement unsucessfully and then pray that a moderator locks the thread before the entire forum turns out to have a laugh at his expense.

You should have been on Friday when he claimed he was older than 37 (yet uses terms like "cow" and "owned) and was a high level executive with the nation's largest bank in Chicago, though the nation's largest bank is in New York and not Chicago.  I even challenged him to post scans of his business degrees with his username sticky noted to them and I would do same with mine.  He cowardly declined.    For a moment I actually hoped he would just to see how sad it would be for a 40 year old man to be doing such things on a message board.

poor ramey... you diggin' on me aren't you..?:oops:

it's only sad you want to go to such lenghts to prove something to someone you don't know...

i told you i was at work... so had no access to take pictures...but "cowardly declined" is how all you clowns view it..

for the record; this is why i don't typically bring my background into this; you clowns have no idea what you're babbling about and sinc eyou personally dont' konw of something, it doesn't exist...

go back to selling loans... heck of way to pay for  mba... :lol:

[QUOTE="tango90101"][QUOTE="Dire_Weasel"][QUOTE="ramey70"]

 

Casino Royale became one of the best selling Bluray titles according to Nielsen-Videoscan ratings. You say it has to do with it being bundled with the PS3 for the European release. I'll give you a minute to figure out your massive error in extrapolation.

ramey70

Tango, aka hd28guy_basic, never admits to being wrong. His typical strategy will be to spin his original statement unsucessfully and then pray that a moderator locks the thread before the entire forum turns out to have a laugh at his expense.

it's funny this guy keeps using the same "neilsen" b.s.. NEVER any other sources...

if i'm wrong, i'm wrong, but sony has a history of counting freebies as sales... so it wouldn't be unheard of...

what other movies were bundled in the ps3...? let's see how they faired on the charts...

The reason you are wrong is because Nielsen-Videoscan only tracts North American sales data, thus specifically excluding any movies bundled in Europe.   

what movies were bundled in NA?

better yet; post the tracking data for the EU.. let's see if Casino Royale is one of their best sellers...;)

[QUOTE="ramey70"][QUOTE="Dire_Weasel"][QUOTE="ramey70"]

 

Casino Royale became one of the best selling Bluray titles according to Nielsen-Videoscan ratings. You say it has to do with it being bundled with the PS3 for the European release. I'll give you a minute to figure out your massive error in extrapolation.

tango90101

Tango, aka hd28guy_basic, never admits to being wrong. His typical strategy will be to spin his original statement unsucessfully and then pray that a moderator locks the thread before the entire forum turns out to have a laugh at his expense.

You should have been on Friday when he claimed he was older than 37 (yet uses terms like "cow" and "owned) and was a high level executive with the nation's largest bank in Chicago, though the nation's largest bank is in New York and not Chicago. I even challenged him to post scans of his business degrees with his username sticky noted to them and I would do same with mine. He cowardly declined. For a moment I actually hoped he would just to see how sad it would be for a 40 year old man to be doing such things on a message board.

poor ramey... you diggin' on me aren't you..?:oops:

it's only sad you want to go to such lenghts to prove something to someone you don't know...

i told you i was at work... so had no access to take pictures...but "cowardly declined" is how all you clowns view it..

for the record; this is why i don't typically bring my background into this; you clowns have no idea what you're babbling about and sinc eyou personally dont' konw of something, it doesn't exist...

go back to selling loans... heck of way to pay for mba... :lol:

Where did I ever claim I sold loans? I'm a risk assessment officer for a mortgage lending firm.   These are aicraft mortgages for airlines and leasing firms.  Surely you should have picked up on that when I mentioned my experience with AMRcorp.   I'm sorry if alluded to anything else.

[QUOTE="ramey70"][QUOTE="tango90101"][QUOTE="Dire_Weasel"][QUOTE="ramey70"]

 

Casino Royale became one of the best selling Bluray titles according to Nielsen-Videoscan ratings. You say it has to do with it being bundled with the PS3 for the European release. I'll give you a minute to figure out your massive error in extrapolation.

tango90101

Tango, aka hd28guy_basic, never admits to being wrong. His typical strategy will be to spin his original statement unsucessfully and then pray that a moderator locks the thread before the entire forum turns out to have a laugh at his expense.

it's funny this guy keeps using the same "neilsen" b.s.. NEVER any other sources...

if i'm wrong, i'm wrong, but sony has a history of counting freebies as sales... so it wouldn't be unheard of...

what other movies were bundled in the ps3...? let's see how they faired on the charts...

The reason you are wrong is because Nielsen-Videoscan only tracts North American sales data, thus specifically excluding any movies bundled in Europe.

what movies were bundled in NA?

Talledega Nights.  Not Casino Royale, which made record sales in North America. 

[QUOTE="black_awpN1"]MS needs to start supporting HD-DVD more. Regardless, this does not decide the High Def War. tango90101

wait for it..

a very big box retailer is unusually quite... and the hd movie market is too big to pass up... ;)

[QUOTE="tango90101"][QUOTE="ramey70"][QUOTE="Dire_Weasel"][QUOTE="ramey70"]

 

Casino Royale became one of the best selling Bluray titles according to Nielsen-Videoscan ratings. You say it has to do with it being bundled with the PS3 for the European release. I'll give you a minute to figure out your massive error in extrapolation.

ramey70

Tango, aka hd28guy_basic, never admits to being wrong. His typical strategy will be to spin his original statement unsucessfully and then pray that a moderator locks the thread before the entire forum turns out to have a laugh at his expense.

You should have been on Friday when he claimed he was older than 37 (yet uses terms like "cow" and "owned) and was a high level executive with the nation's largest bank in Chicago, though the nation's largest bank is in New York and not Chicago. I even challenged him to post scans of his business degrees with his username sticky noted to them and I would do same with mine. He cowardly declined. For a moment I actually hoped he would just to see how sad it would be for a 40 year old man to be doing such things on a message board.

poor ramey... you diggin' on me aren't you..?:oops:

it's only sad you want to go to such lenghts to prove something to someone you don't know...

i told you i was at work... so had no access to take pictures...but "cowardly declined" is how all you clowns view it..

for the record; this is why i don't typically bring my background into this; you clowns have no idea what you're babbling about and sinc eyou personally dont' konw of something, it doesn't exist...

go back to selling loans... heck of way to pay for mba... :lol:

Where did I ever claim I sold loans? I'm a risk assessment officer for a mortgage lending firm.   These are aicraft mortgages for airlines and leasing firms.  Surely you should have picked up on that when I mentioned my experience with AMRcorp.   I'm sorry if alluded to anything else.

a risk analyst?  :lol:

just what a thought; a prodution cog....

wow.. i can see how LTVs and Secondary Market lock pricing can give you valuable insight into consumer electronics industyr...:lol:

now; back on topic:

1. bluray sales won't help the ps3 survive as the money doesn't go to SCE

2. the individual movie sales are not the important driver right now; the players themselves are.   ever wonder why NOONE is releasing stand alone br player sales numbers?  hint: the same reason sony refused to release PSX numbers in japan...;)

[QUOTE="tango90101"]

[QUOTE="black_awpN1"]MS needs to start supporting HD-DVD more. Regardless, this does not decide the High Def War. alfy13

wait for it..

a very big box retailer is unusually quite... and the hd movie market is too big to pass up... ;)

you need to learn to read, dude... really..

i was talking to the poster... :roll:

[QUOTE="Javy03"][QUOTE="Ontain"][QUOTE="Javy03"][QUOTE="Ontain"]

ps3 helps BR sales.

BR inclusion (and price increase) kills ps3 sales ;)

 

tango90101

5.5 million shipped is far from killed, especially when the PS3 has only a handful of games being two new IPs and few mutliplats pushing it, while its competition has its biggest hit since Halo (GEOW) pushing it and a years worth of games. The PS3s are selling fine and the true thing thats hurting PS3 sales is the support Sony is continuing with the PS2. So far neither the the PS3 nor the 360 has convinced people from picking them up as opposed to the PS2 and whoever does that will be the successful console.

1. 5.5 SHIPPED. and only about 3.6 sell through for a 6-7 month old "hot" product at launch.

2. Last of the current gen for months now and most recently outsold 2-1 by the 360 and 4-1 by the wii in the US. It's doing better in Japan, but only against the 360. the wii still beats it almost 8-1. it's not breaking 10k a week.

this is from last gen's #1 company who's previous system was hot out of the gate basically killing the DC as soon as it came out in the US.

Also i find it ridiculous that you think the ps2 is hurting ps3 sales. Most ppl buying a ps2 at the end if it's cycle will not effect the system war this gen.

I read the article where they guestimated the 3.6 sold and read nowhere where they confirmed this and confirmed how much was in transit, I ready nowhere where sony confirmed those numbers, the only confirmed numbers are the 5.5 mill and the 360s numbers were the same exact way counting in transit and in wherehouse.

Yes we know the 360 currently is selling better then the PS3 in the U.s. but the U.S. isnt the only place sales are made, in Japan and Europe the PS3s are outselling the 360.  As for the not breaking 10k in Japan that was ONE week, the week before the sales went up to 13K before it dropped, numbers flucate and the PS3 is lacking games, numbers will go up as games come out.  The PS3s numbers when up 108% in Japan just for the release of Gundam Musou, imagine what will happen when games with a fanbase come out.

The PS2 has a huge fanbase that no console has quite cracked yet.  And as for the Wii different, console, different target audience, different games, and even the creator of Zelda complains about its sales and blames it on the new audience as well as the poor sales of Call of Duty and Need for Speed on the Wii.  The Wii will get games that are selling on it which are party and mini games.

1. Link the ps3 vs 360 sale in EU please... 

2. the EU is backing HD DVD

3. the only reason sony is ever silent is because they have nothing but bad news to report.  The 3.5 "ps3 sold" is even too high, imo.... otherwise, sony would be screming it from the rooftops as they do..

4. it's really odd just how gullible you guys are.. you do realize they're counting the free bundled movies with the ps3 as a "bluray sale", right..? ;)

[QUOTE="tango90101"][QUOTE="ramey70"][QUOTE="tango90101"][QUOTE="Dire_Weasel"][QUOTE="ramey70"]

 

Casino Royale became one of the best selling Bluray titles according to Nielsen-Videoscan ratings. You say it has to do with it being bundled with the PS3 for the European release. I'll give you a minute to figure out your massive error in extrapolation.

ramey70

Tango, aka hd28guy_basic, never admits to being wrong. His typical strategy will be to spin his original statement unsucessfully and then pray that a moderator locks the thread before the entire forum turns out to have a laugh at his expense.

it's funny this guy keeps using the same "neilsen" b.s.. NEVER any other sources...

if i'm wrong, i'm wrong, but sony has a history of counting freebies as sales... so it wouldn't be unheard of...

what other movies were bundled in the ps3...? let's see how they faired on the charts...

The reason you are wrong is because Nielsen-Videoscan only tracts North American sales data, thus specifically excluding any movies bundled in Europe.

what movies were bundled in NA?

Talledega Nights.  Not Casino Royale, which made record sales in North America. 

http://www.hometheaterforum.com/htf/archive/index.php/t-254789.html

and there's Talledega nights #13 out of the many, many bluray titles available.. 

oh, but i'm SURE it's just a coincidence... right..:roll:

ooooo...teh bloooray sales...

[QUOTE="alfy13"][QUOTE="tango90101"]

[QUOTE="black_awpN1"]MS needs to start supporting HD-DVD more. Regardless, this does not decide the High Def War. tango90101

wait for it..

a very big box retailer is unusually quite... and the hd movie market is too big to pass up... ;)

you need to learn to read, dude... really..

i was talking to the poster... :roll:

[QUOTE="tango90101"][QUOTE="Javy03"][QUOTE="Ontain"][QUOTE="Javy03"][QUOTE="Ontain"]

ps3 helps BR sales.

BR inclusion (and price increase) kills ps3 sales ;)

 

alfy13

5.5 million shipped is far from killed, especially when the PS3 has only a handful of games being two new IPs and few mutliplats pushing it, while its competition has its biggest hit since Halo (GEOW) pushing it and a years worth of games. The PS3s are selling fine and the true thing thats hurting PS3 sales is the support Sony is continuing with the PS2. So far neither the the PS3 nor the 360 has convinced people from picking them up as opposed to the PS2 and whoever does that will be the successful console.

1. 5.5 SHIPPED. and only about 3.6 sell through for a 6-7 month old "hot" product at launch.

2. Last of the current gen for months now and most recently outsold 2-1 by the 360 and 4-1 by the wii in the US. It's doing better in Japan, but only against the 360. the wii still beats it almost 8-1. it's not breaking 10k a week.

this is from last gen's #1 company who's previous system was hot out of the gate basically killing the DC as soon as it came out in the US.

Also i find it ridiculous that you think the ps2 is hurting ps3 sales. Most ppl buying a ps2 at the end if it's cycle will not effect the system war this gen.

I read the article where they guestimated the 3.6 sold and read nowhere where they confirmed this and confirmed how much was in transit, I ready nowhere where sony confirmed those numbers, the only confirmed numbers are the 5.5 mill and the 360s numbers were the same exact way counting in transit and in wherehouse.

Yes we know the 360 currently is selling better then the PS3 in the U.s. but the U.S. isnt the only place sales are made, in Japan and Europe the PS3s are outselling the 360.  As for the not breaking 10k in Japan that was ONE week, the week before the sales went up to 13K before it dropped, numbers flucate and the PS3 is lacking games, numbers will go up as games come out.  The PS3s numbers when up 108% in Japan just for the release of Gundam Musou, imagine what will happen when games with a fanbase come out.

The PS2 has a huge fanbase that no console has quite cracked yet.  And as for the Wii different, console, different target audience, different games, and even the creator of Zelda complains about its sales and blames it on the new audience as well as the poor sales of Call of Duty and Need for Speed on the Wii.  The Wii will get games that are selling on it which are party and mini games.

1. Link the ps3 vs 360 sale in EU please... 

2. the EU is backing HD DVD

3. the only reason sony is ever silent is because they have nothing but bad news to report.  The 3.5 "ps3 sold" is even too high, imo.... otherwise, sony would be screming it from the rooftops as they do..

4. it's really odd just how gullible you guys are.. you do realize they're counting the free bundled movies with the ps3 as a "bluray sale", right..? ;)

um...no...i'm talking about the EU studios...

they're not backing bluray...

i don't know how many studios there are, but it's not looking good to have both NA and EU against bluray...

maybe japan will save it... ooops... never mind...:D

[QUOTE="ramey70"][QUOTE="tango90101"][QUOTE="ramey70"][QUOTE="Dire_Weasel"][QUOTE="ramey70"]

 

Casino Royale became one of the best selling Bluray titles according to Nielsen-Videoscan ratings. You say it has to do with it being bundled with the PS3 for the European release. I'll give you a minute to figure out your massive error in extrapolation.

tango90101

Tango, aka hd28guy_basic, never admits to being wrong. His typical strategy will be to spin his original statement unsucessfully and then pray that a moderator locks the thread before the entire forum turns out to have a laugh at his expense.

You should have been on Friday when he claimed he was older than 37 (yet uses terms like "cow" and "owned) and was a high level executive with the nation's largest bank in Chicago, though the nation's largest bank is in New York and not Chicago. I even challenged him to post scans of his business degrees with his username sticky noted to them and I would do same with mine. He cowardly declined. For a moment I actually hoped he would just to see how sad it would be for a 40 year old man to be doing such things on a message board.

poor ramey... you diggin' on me aren't you..?:oops:

it's only sad you want to go to such lenghts to prove something to someone you don't know...

i told you i was at work... so had no access to take pictures...but "cowardly declined" is how all you clowns view it..

for the record; this is why i don't typically bring my background into this; you clowns have no idea what you're babbling about and sinc eyou personally dont' konw of something, it doesn't exist...

go back to selling loans... heck of way to pay for mba... :lol:

Where did I ever claim I sold loans? I'm a risk assessment officer for a mortgage lending firm. These are aicraft mortgages for airlines and leasing firms. Surely you should have picked up on that when I mentioned my experience with AMRcorp. I'm sorry if alluded to anything else.

a risk analyst? :lol:

just what a thought; a prodution cog....

wow.. i can see how LTVs and Secondary Market lock pricing can give you valuable insight into consumer electronics industyr...:lol:

now; back on topic:

1. bluray sales won't help the ps3 survive as the money doesn't go to SCE

2. the individual movie sales are not the important driver right now; the players themselves are. ever wonder why NOONE is releasing stand alone br player sales numbers? hint: the same reason sony refused to release PSX numbers in japan...;)

You're not real familiar with Aircraft Mortgages I suspect.  The factors involved are much different than loaning Judy and Timmy $100k for their first 1,500 sqft home with FHA backed mortgage.   Look up the book price of a 777-200ER and combine that with a volatile aviation industry and get back to me.

[QUOTE="tango90101"][QUOTE="alfy13"][QUOTE="tango90101"]

[QUOTE="black_awpN1"]MS needs to start supporting HD-DVD more. Regardless, this does not decide the High Def War. alfy13

wait for it..

a very big box retailer is unusually quite... and the hd movie market is too big to pass up... ;)

you need to learn to read, dude... really..

i was talking to the poster... :roll:

okey doke...

yeah..you cows used to "own" me for my ps3 predictions, too...

but alas, EVERY one of them came true...

ps.. not just walmart but wally AND china...;)

you wouldn't understand the logic behind the decision anyway, so don't even try...

oh well.. it's just more salt i get to throw in the ps3 wound in a few months...

um...no...i'm talking about the EU studios...

they're not backing bluray...

i don't know how many studios there are, but it's not looking good to have both NA and EU against bluray...

maybe japan will save it... ooops... never mind...:D

tango90101

So you don't know how many studios are in the EU, just that they're backing HD-DVD.  Compelling evidence. 

[QUOTE="tango90101"][QUOTE="ramey70"][QUOTE="tango90101"][QUOTE="ramey70"][QUOTE="Dire_Weasel"][QUOTE="ramey70"]

 

Casino Royale became one of the best selling Bluray titles according to Nielsen-Videoscan ratings. You say it has to do with it being bundled with the PS3 for the European release. I'll give you a minute to figure out your massive error in extrapolation.

ramey70

Tango, aka hd28guy_basic, never admits to being wrong. His typical strategy will be to spin his original statement unsucessfully and then pray that a moderator locks the thread before the entire forum turns out to have a laugh at his expense.

You should have been on Friday when he claimed he was older than 37 (yet uses terms like "cow" and "owned) and was a high level executive with the nation's largest bank in Chicago, though the nation's largest bank is in New York and not Chicago. I even challenged him to post scans of his business degrees with his username sticky noted to them and I would do same with mine. He cowardly declined. For a moment I actually hoped he would just to see how sad it would be for a 40 year old man to be doing such things on a message board.

poor ramey... you diggin' on me aren't you..?:oops:

it's only sad you want to go to such lenghts to prove something to someone you don't know...

i told you i was at work... so had no access to take pictures...but "cowardly declined" is how all you clowns view it..

for the record; this is why i don't typically bring my background into this; you clowns have no idea what you're babbling about and sinc eyou personally dont' konw of something, it doesn't exist...

go back to selling loans... heck of way to pay for mba... :lol:

Where did I ever claim I sold loans? I'm a risk assessment officer for a mortgage lending firm. These are aicraft mortgages for airlines and leasing firms. Surely you should have picked up on that when I mentioned my experience with AMRcorp. I'm sorry if alluded to anything else.

a risk analyst? :lol:

just what a thought; a prodution cog....

wow.. i can see how LTVs and Secondary Market lock pricing can give you valuable insight into consumer electronics industyr...:lol:

now; back on topic:

1. bluray sales won't help the ps3 survive as the money doesn't go to SCE

2. the individual movie sales are not the important driver right now; the players themselves are. ever wonder why NOONE is releasing stand alone br player sales numbers? hint: the same reason sony refused to release PSX numbers in japan...;)

You're not real familiar with Aircraft Mortgages I suspect.  The factors involved are much different than loaning Judy and Timmy $100k for their first 1,500 sqft home with FHA backed mortgage.   Look up the book price of a 777-200ER and combine that with a volatile aviation industry and get back to me.

hey go to another forum to give us your life story.. this is about something else...;)

[QUOTE="tango90101"]

um...no...i'm talking about the EU studios...

they're not backing bluray...

i don't know how many studios there are, but it's not looking good to have both NA and EU against bluray...

maybe japan will save it... ooops... never mind...:D

ramey70

So you don't know how many studios are in the EU, just that they're backing HD-DVD.  Compelling evidence. 

how many EU studios are putting out bluray movies?  hint: NONE.

there's your evidence...

wtf...:lol:

[QUOTE="ramey70"][QUOTE="tango90101"]

um...no...i'm talking about the EU studios...

they're not backing bluray...

i don't know how many studios there are, but it's not looking good to have both NA and EU against bluray...

maybe japan will save it... ooops... never mind...:D

tango90101

So you don't know how many studios are in the EU, just that they're backing HD-DVD. Compelling evidence.

how many EU studios are putting out bluray movies? hint: NONE.

there's your evidence...

wtf...:lol:

What do you consider an "EU Studio"?  One that only releases movies in europe or that also releases NA movies in Europe? 

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hmm

i guess you didn't know that Sony is one of the creators of the CD, associated with the DVD development and also creator of a lot of medias like the SACD that is higly used by audiophiles around the world, because of it's high quality sound. And sony is quite well known for it's quality products.

SambaLele

 no genius, I am aware of that. in fact you just reinforced my point. The technologies you mentioned were OPEN CONSORTIUMS and not like this format war.

You can all say that BD is not just Sony all you want, but you know darn well they are the driving force. Why wouldnt they? With their extensive movie catalog why would they want to share? Even if it is the best for consumers!

[QUOTE="tango90101"][QUOTE="ramey70"][QUOTE="tango90101"]

um...no...i'm talking about the EU studios...

they're not backing bluray...

i don't know how many studios there are, but it's not looking good to have both NA and EU against bluray...

maybe japan will save it... ooops... never mind...:D

ramey70

So you don't know how many studios are in the EU, just that they're backing HD-DVD. Compelling evidence.

how many EU studios are putting out bluray movies? hint: NONE.

there's your evidence...

wtf...:lol:

What do you consider an "EU Studio"?  One that only releases movies in europe or that also releases NA movies in Europe? 

oh jeezus...:roll:

A EU BASED STUDIO THAT MAKES MOVIES FOR RELEASE...

they made no differentiation between eu and na releases from what i read...

[QUOTE="ramey70"][QUOTE="tango90101"]

hey go to another forum to give us your life story.. this is about something else...;)

tango90101

I agree, this one is about a compulsive liar who also happens to be emotionally invested in a corporation (Microsoft).

yes..ANYONE who says something you don't know about is a "compulsive liar"...:lol:

i don't normally report idiots just ask dire weasel, but in your case i'll make an exception...;)

it's nice you agreed with me tho..:roll:

Isn't saying you'll report someone a direct violation of the TOS?  I'm also amused that a 40 year old man makes such liberal use of emoticons.   

[QUOTE="alfy13"][QUOTE="darthogre"][QUOTE="Ontain"]

ps3 helps BR sales.

BR inclusion (and price increase) kills ps3 sales ;)

 

tango90101

The God of War dev agrees with you.  I agree with that as well HOWEVER I also think it's a temporary blip.  If SOE reduces the price of PS3 (which I know they are going to do this year) and when they get the good software titles in Sept-Nov, PS3 will be alright.  It might not be PS2 but as you said I think SOE was looking at the company as whole and not just one part.  In order for SOE to win the format war they needed PS3 which once they win would reap great rewards but it would come at a price of not being the dominate game console this time around.  It might be number one in the end but it will not have the PS2's success. 

SOE is obvoiusly thinking the rewards of BR winning + mediocre PS3 sales > PS3 being the top dog in the console market.

Sony is already at 2 billion lost in 6 months... they'll easily reach 10 billion at the end of 08...

you think they'll make 100 billion dollars from bluray royalties...? 

just....wow....

First of all.... the format war sucks and the only losers are the consumer. my professional guestimation is that HD-DVD will triumph. Clearly, the ps3 is only way in which blu ray was able to to gain momentum, however when looking at sales of standalone players HD-DVD is ahead. The population is so small that online forums are able to sway the amazon top sales numbers by creating group buys... i.e. on planet earth and the matrix.  Very shortly, Wal-mart will be sourching $399 and under HD-DVDs. With the compression technology, the space isnt an issue at all and blu-ray is overkill. Consumers, do go for overkill.... while enthusiast will cry, the lower priced unit will triumph to the masses.

 I believe its irrelevant whoever wins as in 5 years, the trend will be 1080P downloadable media.

Everyone should be very concerned with sony's tactics here..... maybe your not aware, but do to the nature of the content, the blu ray group will not allow porn as blu ray is now associated with supporters like disney. Do you really want companies like sony blocking porn and other material they see as un-fit? Can you say mind control? HD-DVD offers the freedom of content that everyone deserves.

[QUOTE="tango90101"][QUOTE="ramey70"][QUOTE="tango90101"]

hey go to another forum to give us your life story.. this is about something else...;)

ramey70

I agree, this one is about a compulsive liar who also happens to be emotionally invested in a corporation (Microsoft).

yes..ANYONE who says something you don't know about is a "compulsive liar"...:lol:

i don't normally report idiots just ask dire weasel, but in your case i'll make an exception...;)

it's nice you agreed with me tho..:roll:

Isn't saying you'll report someone a direct violation of the TOS?  I'm also amused that a 40 year old man makes such liberal use of emoticons.   

and i'm amused you're on your 5th post that has nothing to do with the topic..

if you need attention this bad, buy a dog....

so how about that Talledega Night's best selling bluray that was bundled with the ps3?  coincidence?

can we agree the "blooray movie" sales are not indicative of the public's acceptance, now?  it's proven they're counting free movies as sales...

[QUOTE="ramey70"][QUOTE="tango90101"][QUOTE="ramey70"][QUOTE="tango90101"]

um...no...i'm talking about the EU studios...

they're not backing bluray...

i don't know how many studios there are, but it's not looking good to have both NA and EU against bluray...

maybe japan will save it... ooops... never mind...:D

tango90101

So you don't know how many studios are in the EU, just that they're backing HD-DVD. Compelling evidence.

how many EU studios are putting out bluray movies? hint: NONE.

there's your evidence...

wtf...:lol:

What do you consider an "EU Studio"?  One that only releases movies in europe or that also releases NA movies in Europe? 

oh jeezus...:roll:

A EU BASED STUDIO THAT MAKES MOVIES FOR RELEASE...

they made no differentiation between eu and na releases from what i read...

^^^^^^^

not interested in downloadable media I have no chance of selling on when Ive finished with it, and cant put in the latest upgraded player because its tied to a particular providers player. Nope, no thanks at all.

[QUOTE="Dire_Weasel"][QUOTE="ramey70"]

 

Casino Royale became one of the best selling Bluray titles according to Nielsen-Videoscan ratings. You say it has to do with it being bundled with the PS3 for the European release. I'll give you a minute to figure out your massive error in extrapolation.

ramey70

Tango, aka hd28guy_basic, never admits to being wrong. His typical strategy will be to spin his original statement unsucessfully and then pray that a moderator locks the thread before the entire forum turns out to have a laugh at his expense.

You should have been on Friday when he claimed he was older than 37 (yet uses terms like "cow" and "owned) and was a high level executive with the nation's largest bank in Chicago, though the nation's largest bank is in New York and not Chicago.  I even challenged him to post scans of his business degrees with his username sticky noted to them and I would do same with mine.  He cowardly declined.    For a moment I actually hoped he would just to see how sad it would be for a 40 year old man to be doing such things on a message board.

[QUOTE="Dire_Weasel"][QUOTE="tango90101"]

4. it's really odd just how gullible you guys are.. you do realize they're counting the free bundled movies with the ps3 as a "bluray sale", right..? ;)

tango90101

Link please, or else I'll just assume you're spewing more of your usual.

...

Actually, I know there is no link... but thanks for playing. :)

hmmmm... let's see.. Casino Royale wasn't even a blip on the radar of bluray sales until they bundled it with the ps3 then MAGICALLY it became one the "best seling bluray" titles...

i'll bet you really think that's a coincidence..:lol:

you need to read more instead of asking for links to common knowledge...;)

I have zero hard disk games for my PS3 and 7 blu-ray movies. PS3 at least has one good use right now.

 

Bread_or_Decide

its games baby..GAMES !! and content of course...I have a lot of games in my 360 and a couple of HDmovies and HD content also....Im getting my HD content 

First of all.... the format war sucks and the only losers are the consumer. my professional guestimation is that HD-DVD will triumph. Clearly, the ps3 is only way in which blu ray was able to to gain momentum, however when looking at sales of standalone players HD-DVD is ahead. The population is so small that online forums are able to sway the amazon top sales numbers by creating group buys... i.e. on planet earth and the matrix.  Very shortly, Wal-mart will be sourching $399 and under HD-DVDs. With the compression technology, the space isnt an issue at all and blu-ray is overkill. Consumers, do go for overkill.... while enthusiast will cry, the lower priced unit will triumph to the masses.

 I believe its irrelevant whoever wins as in 5 years, the trend will be 1080P downloadable media.

 

Everyone should be very concerned with sony's tactics here..... maybe your not aware, but do to the nature of the content, the blu ray group will not allow porn as blu ray is now associated with supporters like disney. Do you really want companies like sony blocking porn and other material they see as un-fit? Can you say mind control? HD-DVD offers the freedom of content that everyone deserves.

Bdking57

OK? My first Question is are you addicted to porn?

Next you say there are still more HD-DVD players out there. Well that only benafits a few companies that actually make the Blu-ray player. But more Blu-ray movies are being sold. If that trend continues. it won't really matter how many HD-DVD drives are out there. The fact that more movies are being sold on Blu-ray will move more companies over to Blu-ray. the amount of players out there does not matter half as much as the amount of movies on a disk format.

Also although I do believe downloadable media will become bigger. I think it will take alot longer than 5 years for downloadable media to take over. People still like to have something solid in thier hands. like a disk or tape.

[QUOTE="Bdking57"]

First of all.... the format war sucks and the only losers are the consumer. my professional guestimation is that HD-DVD will triumph. Clearly, the ps3 is only way in which blu ray was able to to gain momentum, however when looking at sales of standalone players HD-DVD is ahead. The population is so small that online forums are able to sway the amazon top sales numbers by creating group buys... i.e. on planet earth and the matrix.  Very shortly, Wal-mart will be sourching $399 and under HD-DVDs. With the compression technology, the space isnt an issue at all and blu-ray is overkill. Consumers, do go for overkill.... while enthusiast will cry, the lower priced unit will triumph to the masses.

 I believe its irrelevant whoever wins as in 5 years, the trend will be 1080P downloadable media.

 

Everyone should be very concerned with sony's tactics here..... maybe your not aware, but do to the nature of the content, the blu ray group will not allow porn as blu ray is now associated with supporters like disney. Do you really want companies like sony blocking porn and other material they see as un-fit? Can you say mind control? HD-DVD offers the freedom of content that everyone deserves.

wiljas

OK? My first Question is are you addicted to porn?

Next you say there are still more HD-DVD players out there. Well that only benafits a few companies that actually make the Blu-ray player. But more Blu-ray movies are being sold. If that trend continues. it won't really matter how many HD-DVD drives are out there. The fact that more movies are being sold on Blu-ray will move more companies over to Blu-ray. the amount of players out there does not matter half as much as the amount of movies on a disk format.

Also although I do believe downloadable media will become bigger. I think it will take alot longer than 5 years for downloadable media to take over. People still like to have something solid in thier hands. like a disk or tape.

but yep i agree with you 100%

[QUOTE="darthogre"][QUOTE="Ontain"]

ps3 helps BR sales.

BR inclusion (and price increase) kills ps3 sales ;)

 

alfy13

The God of War dev agrees with you. I agree with that as well HOWEVER I also think it's a temporary blip. If SOE reduces the price of PS3 (which I know they are going to do this year) and when they get the good software titles in Sept-Nov, PS3 will be alright. It might not be PS2 but as you said I think SOE was looking at the company as whole and not just one part. In order for SOE to win the format war they needed PS3 which once they win would reap great rewards but it would come at a price of not being the dominate game console this time around. It might be number one in the end but it will not have the PS2's success.

SOE is obvoiusly thinking the rewards of BR winning + mediocre PS3 sales > PS3 being the top dog in the console market.

First of all.... the format war sucks and the only losers are the consumer. my professional guestimation is that HD-DVD will triumph. Clearly, the ps3 is only way in which blu ray was able to to gain momentum, however when looking at sales of standalone players HD-DVD is ahead. The population is so small that online forums are able to sway the amazon top sales numbers by creating group buys... i.e. on planet earth and the matrix.  Very shortly, Wal-mart will be sourching $399 and under HD-DVDs. With the compression technology, the space isnt an issue at all and blu-ray is overkill. Consumers, do go for overkill.... while enthusiast will cry, the lower priced unit will triumph to the masses.

 I believe its irrelevant whoever wins as in 5 years, the trend will be 1080P downloadable media.

 

Everyone should be very concerned with sony's tactics here..... maybe your not aware, but do to the nature of the content, the blu ray group will not allow porn as blu ray is now associated with supporters like disney. Do you really want companies like sony blocking porn and other material they see as un-fit? Can you say mind control? HD-DVD offers the freedom of content that everyone deserves.

Bdking57

Ok can we all stop using the "porn" arguement for winning the format war?

Debbie Does Dallas or Spider-Man 3?

Debbie Does Dallas or Pirates of the C. 3?

Heck I'd even choose Fantastic 4 (2) over Debbie Does Dallas.

Point is porn aficionados can keep their HDD players to play their porn if they want to....that's fine.  Most of the normal people can survive without highdef porn......specially when a thing called free porn on the internet exists.  If you honestly need to get your "fix" PS3 has wifi and you can log on and enjoy.

btw I can assure you Wal-Mart will be supporting Blu-Ray more by default......after all the majority of the software will be exclusive to Blu-Ray.  The more expensive arguement will fall flat on it's face because Blu-Ray players will be dropping in price at the same rate of HDD players.

Blu-Ray success is not doing the PS3 any favors, look at the record low attach rate for game sales as an example why. Many owners are moviephiles not games and the poor game sales reflect this.Riverwolf007