PS3 Impact on Blu-Ray Sales

[QUOTE="Riverwolf007"]Blu-Ray success is not doing the PS3 any favors, look at the record low attach rate for game sales as an example why. Many owners are moviephiles not games and the poor game sales reflect this.alfy13

Whats funny is... people think they have a choice with technology. When technology moves on you either get with it or get kicked to the curve. Sony decided to get with it.

And I would buy a Blue Ray Player...................................................................................

....................................................But IM GETTING A PS3!!!!! 

[QUOTE="alfy13"][QUOTE="Riverwolf007"]Blu-Ray success is not doing the PS3 any favors, look at the record low attach rate for game sales as an example why. Many owners are moviephiles not games and the poor game sales reflect this.Riverwolf007

I would buy a hd dvd addon for my 360, but atm they are to iffy . i dont want to throw away money on something that has a high % of not being supported for in the future. meaning i dont want a paper weight.

also no games atm= low attach rate. doesnt take alot to have figure that out.

[QUOTE="Riverwolf007"][QUOTE="alfy13"][QUOTE="Riverwolf007"]Blu-Ray success is not doing the PS3 any favors, look at the record low attach rate for game sales as an example why. Many owners are moviephiles not games and the poor game sales reflect this.alfy13

I would buy a hd dvd addon for my 360, but atm they are to iffy . i dont want to throw away money on something that has a high % of not being supported for in the future. meaning i dont want a paper weight.

also no games atm= low attach rate. doesnt take alot to have figure that out.

I may be totally wrong about that its just ironic to me that Blu-Ray just happens to take off while game sales are in the gutter.

[QUOTE="alfy13"]

[QUOTE="Riverwolf007"][QUOTE="alfy13"][QUOTE="Riverwolf007"]Blu-Ray success is not doing the PS3 any favors, look at the record low attach rate for game sales as an example why. Many owners are moviephiles not games and the poor game sales reflect this.Riverwolf007

I would buy a hd dvd addon for my 360, but atm they are to iffy . i dont want to throw away money on something that has a high % of not being supported for in the future. meaning i dont want a paper weight.

also no games atm= low attach rate. doesnt take alot to have figure that out.

I may be totally wrong about that its just ironic to me that Blu-Ray just happens to take off while game sales are in the gutter.

[QUOTE="Riverwolf007"][QUOTE="alfy13"]

[QUOTE="Riverwolf007"][QUOTE="alfy13"][QUOTE="Riverwolf007"]Blu-Ray success is not doing the PS3 any favors, look at the record low attach rate for game sales as an example why. Many owners are moviephiles not games and the poor game sales reflect this.alfy13

I would buy a hd dvd addon for my 360, but atm they are to iffy . i dont want to throw away money on something that has a high % of not being supported for in the future. meaning i dont want a paper weight.

also no games atm= low attach rate. doesnt take alot to have figure that out.

I may be totally wrong about that its just ironic to me that Blu-Ray just happens to take off while game sales are in the gutter.

The point here is the 360 attach rate is very high and the PS3 attach rate is very low and I believe the PS3 being a cheap BD player is one of the reasons. I really don't have anything against BD I'm almost positive I will end up with one either in the PS3, or as a stand alone at some point.

I think the constant attacks on BD have made people sensitive about it.

[QUOTE="alfy13"][QUOTE="Riverwolf007"][QUOTE="alfy13"]

[QUOTE="Riverwolf007"][QUOTE="alfy13"][QUOTE="Riverwolf007"]Blu-Ray success is not doing the PS3 any favors, look at the record low attach rate for game sales as an example why. Many owners are moviephiles not games and the poor game sales reflect this.Riverwolf007

I would buy a hd dvd addon for my 360, but atm they are to iffy . i dont want to throw away money on something that has a high % of not being supported for in the future. meaning i dont want a paper weight.

also no games atm= low attach rate. doesnt take alot to have figure that out.

I may be totally wrong about that its just ironic to me that Blu-Ray just happens to take off while game sales are in the gutter.

The point here is the 360 attach rate is very high and the PS3 attach rate is very low and I believe the PS3 being a cheap BD player is one of the reasons. I really don't have anything against BD I'm almost positive I will end up with one either in the PS3, or as a stand alone at some point.

I think the constant attacks on BD have made people sensitive about it.

[QUOTE="jaminator45"][QUOTE="darthogre"][QUOTE="jaminator45"]

what non of you seem to realize is that its only fanboys that would choose BD as the HD format for home theater purposes. All of you that are so concerned with the PS3 becoming a success have decided that BluRay is THE format so that your console will do well, and thats the only reason.

Anyone who has long term experience with Home Theater, and I am talking about 15 or 20 years here, not 2 years, knows that Sony has a history of creating format s not based on whats good for the consumer, but based on how Sony can create a situation with a patented product that will earn them royalties for the life of the product. They are not interested in creating a standard via a consortium such as the DVD Forum Group.

 

So the fact that the sales spiked with the launch of the PS3 is not that hard to understand. Ths PS3 counts for 90+% of BD sales.

Danthegamingman

I'm sorry I guess I missed your point.  Are you saying Blu-Ray will end up losing or something?  Or was that just an attempt to bash SOE electronics lol?  Whether or not you think SOE is good for the HD format or not, it's pretty clear they are going to win.  When Disney/BuenaVista, Fox, Columbia/SOE are putting exclusive titles on BR while only Universal is putting exclusive titles on HDD......you can see the writing on the wall. 

Not trying to bash Sony and not saying BD will lose. I have Sony products and for the most part love them. My TV is an SXRD and its awesome. And it was more expensive than most others because of proprietary technology. In that case it was clearly a better picture than DLP so i went with it.

What concerns me as a movie lover and as someone who owns over 500 DVDs, is whan i see a stand alone BluRay player selling for 800 bucks vs 299 for HDDVD, it makes me wonder how much I am going to have to pay in the future to get my favorite movies in HD. Is it gonna be 19.99 like the hddvd? or is it gonna be 29.99-34.99 like a lot of DB Disks.

Bottom line is I think this whole format war is complete BS and ALL of the companies involved should have agreed on a standard so that we can move forward and consumers dont get screwed over.

Well, considering the fact that Sony and a majority of the DVD forum had worked on Blu-Ray long before HD DVD was even thought of, i blame Toshiba.

At first, the DVD forum was looking into a highly  compressed red laser high definition format that would display movies in 720p. Sony and many others didn't think that was good enough, as it was just a pitiful upgrade to DVD, so they started working on blue laser technology.  The final product was dubbed "Blu-Ray".  However, Toshiba, the chair of the DVD forum, didn't like the fact that they wouldn't get royalties from Blu-Ray like they do with DVD, so about a year after Blu-Ray technology was finalised, they started working on AOD technology, which evolved into HD DVD. 

Toshiba then proposed that HD DVD become the successor to DVD in the DVD forum.  The time came for everybody to vote, and the Blu-Ray supporting companies abstained from voting, because in the forum, and absentation is roughly equivalent to a "no" vote, but the companies get to save face.  Because of this, Toshiba had far less than the necessary number of votes to approve HD DVD as the successor of DVD.  Since they were the chair of the Forum, they decided to alter the by-laws of the forum, allowing absentations to be ignored.  As such, HD DVD had the majority, and was illegally named the successor to DVD.

First off, HD DVD was illegally pronounced the successor to the DVD, and secondly, who said that the DVD forum had the right to decide DVDs successor in the first place?  Was there some sort of VHS forum that decided that DVD would succeed VHS?  What gives them the right? 

Anyway, Blu-Ray was invented long before HD DVD, is techniologically superior to HD DVD, and had/has far more support by hardware manufacturers and movie studios than HD DVD, yet Toshiba decided to sell anyway.  This is Toshiba's war, not Sony's.