PS3 In-Game XMB Gets Dumbed Down?

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#1 SpeedsterCards
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Did you hear that the PS3 in-game xmb got downgraded? it has drastically lower resolution and runs in sub-hd now after the 3.50 update. I'm looking for the link, will update if i find it. Why did Sony do this? I think to make it load faster. Notice it's only the in game xmb

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#2 sikanderahmed
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PS3: it only does downgrading

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#3 HavocV3
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seeing as the interface would run faster, what's the problem.

nor does an interface need to be HD. it's a flipping interface.

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#4 ImprovedMind
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PS3: it only does downgrading

sikanderahmed
We have a winner.
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#5 ArtisTool
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Woot? lol

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#6 NoobisMaxcimus
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Good, it's slow as ****.
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#7 kipohippo021
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[QUOTE="ImprovedMind"][QUOTE="sikanderahmed"]

PS3: it only does downgrading

We have a winner.

ouch, harsh.
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#8 Fightingfan
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I don't care, I rather have an instant XMB then an HD one.
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#9 mlbslugger86
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call me confused, but in-game XMb?

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#10 BigBoss154
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I think the real question is, why should we care? All I use the XMB for in-game is quitting the game, or shutting down the system...which takes 2 seconds then it's gone.

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#11 Fightingfan
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call me confused, but in-game XMb?

mlbslugger86

Cross Media Bar = XMB

In game = playing a game.

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#12 sikanderahmed
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[QUOTE="sikanderahmed"]

PS3: it only does downgrading

ImprovedMind

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i can haz cookie?

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#13 hiryu3
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OH NOEZ my text is in sub HD?! Does it really matter?
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#14 Locutus_Picard
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That was the last straw. How dare they lower the resolution of my interface :x
I've had it, I'm going to XBL where you at least get your money's worth and get a full HD interface :x
The nerve of Sony, the XMB was hyped graphics king and now they pull a stunt like this?

I want at least 1080p @ 60 FPS with 8x AA on my game icons damnit! :x
I won't settle for less. :x

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#15 ImprovedMind
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I don't care, I rather have an instant XMB then an HD one.Fightingfan
So you are happy that they are downgrading? To me, a proper fix would be to run some optimization code and find out why a simple menu system is running so slow. That is fine though I am sure that you liked losing PS2 backwards compatibility, Linux, and some third-party USB devices. Listen to what you are saying because it makes me sick.
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#16 ImprovedMind
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[QUOTE="ImprovedMind"][QUOTE="sikanderahmed"]

PS3: it only does downgrading

sikanderahmed

We have a winner.

i can haz cookie?

I am not sure. We will need to ask the judges.
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#17 mlbslugger86
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I think the real question is, why should we care? All I use the XMB for in-game is quitting the game, or shutting down the system...which takes 2 seconds then it's gone.

BigBoss154

ah that one, i don't really care for it.

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#18 Fightingfan
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[QUOTE="Fightingfan"]I don't care, I rather have an instant XMB then an HD one.ImprovedMind
So you are happy that they are downgrading? To me, a proper fix would be to run some optimization code and find out why a simple menu system is running so slow. That is fine though I am sure that you liked losing PS2 backwards compatibility, Linux, and some third-party USB devices. Listen to what you are saying because it makes me sick.

Yes, I don't care. If it offers a fast menu system I honestly don't care. Also, I didn't care about Linux WTF am I going to do with a 512mb of ram and a horrible GPU.. As for PS2 BC I still have it(60GB owner and ps2 owners).
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#19 mlbslugger86
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so wait, does this mean that its going to be faster?? because i hate the fact it slows down when i press the ps button in game.

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#20 Upparoom
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[QUOTE="sikanderahmed"]

PS3: it only does downgrading

ImprovedMind

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Because HD XMB's while you're playing a game are absolutely necessary :|

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#21 navyguy21
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lol, when you want pop up menus in HD, you know you are worrying about too many petty things :P Seriously, its the in-game menu. :| To be honest, i didnt even notice it :P Oh, and link or i dont believe you :P
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[QUOTE="Fightingfan"]I don't care, I rather have an instant XMB then an HD one.ImprovedMind
So you are happy that they are downgrading? To me, a proper fix would be to run some optimization code and find out why a simple menu system is running so slow. That is fine though I am sure that you liked losing PS2 backwards compatibility, Linux, and some third-party USB devices. Listen to what you are saying because it makes me sick.

You're sick about someone valuing performance over resolution on a menu? :?

Also, has anyone actually found a link about this? I've been googling around and can't find anything...

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#23 Chris_Williams
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if its faster who cares

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#24 mystervj
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Is this really? And did it got any faster?
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#25 ImprovedMind
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[QUOTE="ImprovedMind"][QUOTE="Fightingfan"]I don't care, I rather have an instant XMB then an HD one.santoron

So you are happy that they are downgrading? To me, a proper fix would be to run some optimization code and find out why a simple menu system is running so slow. That is fine though I am sure that you liked losing PS2 backwards compatibility, Linux, and some third-party USB devices. Listen to what you are saying because it makes me sick.

You're sick about someone valuing performance over resolution on a menu? :?

Also, has anyone actually found a link about this? I've been googling around and can't find anything...

I am sick that I paid $600 for a system that lost my Linux support and use of three of my USB memory sticks. Now instead of doing the right thing and optimizing the menu, they are just lowering the resolution so that the system can handle it. No console that is unable to run a menu will ever have the graphics king title.
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#26 Funconsole
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PS3: it only does downgrading

sikanderahmed
:lol: Epic win!!
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#27 Chris_Williams
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[QUOTE="santoron"]

[QUOTE="ImprovedMind"] So you are happy that they are downgrading? To me, a proper fix would be to run some optimization code and find out why a simple menu system is running so slow. That is fine though I am sure that you liked losing PS2 backwards compatibility, Linux, and some third-party USB devices. Listen to what you are saying because it makes me sick.ImprovedMind

You're sick about someone valuing performance over resolution on a menu? :?

Also, has anyone actually found a link about this? I've been googling around and can't find anything...

I am sick that I paid $600 for a system that lost my Linux support and use of three of my USB memory sticks. Now instead of doing the right thing and optimizing the menu, they are just lowering the resolution so that the system can handle it. No console that is unable to run a menu will ever have the graphics king title.

why are people still on the linux issue if you wanted linux so bad, run it on your computer your typing this on, there problem solved, all my usb sticks work so tough luck i guess. Saying their lowering the resolution so that the system can handle it doesn't make any sense, they probably did it so it runs smoother and faster and you won't even notice it. geez
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#28 ImprovedMind
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[QUOTE="ImprovedMind"][QUOTE="santoron"]

You're sick about someone valuing performance over resolution on a menu? :?

Also, has anyone actually found a link about this? I've been googling around and can't find anything...

Chris_Williams

I am sick that I paid $600 for a system that lost my Linux support and use of three of my USB memory sticks. Now instead of doing the right thing and optimizing the menu, they are just lowering the resolution so that the system can handle it. No console that is unable to run a menu will ever have the graphics king title.

why are people still on the linux issue if you wanted linux so bad, run it on your computer your typing this on, there problem solved, all my usb sticks work so tough luck i guess. Saying their lowering the resolution so that the system can handle it doesn't make any sense, they probably did it so it runs smoother and faster and you won't even notice it. geez

You aren't making any sense. Why else would they lower the resolution of the menus? They do it to take a load of the hardware so that it can process and quickly display the menus. Simply, put the PS3 couldn't handle the menus most likely due to inefficient coding.

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#29 exiledsnake
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I call shenanigans. Can't find anything on the net on the issue.
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#30 Chris_Williams
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[QUOTE="Chris_Williams"][QUOTE="ImprovedMind"] I am sick that I paid $600 for a system that lost my Linux support and use of three of my USB memory sticks. Now instead of doing the right thing and optimizing the menu, they are just lowering the resolution so that the system can handle it. No console that is unable to run a menu will ever have the graphics king title.ImprovedMind

why are people still on the linux issue if you wanted linux so bad, run it on your computer your typing this on, there problem solved, all my usb sticks work so tough luck i guess. Saying their lowering the resolution so that the system can handle it doesn't make any sense, they probably did it so it runs smoother and faster and you won't even notice it. geez

You aren't making any sense. Why else would they lower the resolution of the menus? They do it to take a load of the hardware so that it can process and quickly display the menus. Simply, put the PS3 couldn't handle the menus most likely due to inefficient coding.

yeah, bring me proof then i'll believe you till then your just talking out of your butt and anyone can do that my friend, it sounds like your not to happy with your playstation, just sell it and go about your way instead of making topics on how much it disappoints you
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if it improves loading times then who cares? As long as it is functional.

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#32 ImprovedMind
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[QUOTE="ImprovedMind"]

[QUOTE="Chris_Williams"] You aren't making any sense. Why else would they lower the resolution of the menus? They do it to take a load of the hardware so that it can process and quickly display the menus. Simply, put the PS3 couldn't handle the menus most likely due to inefficient coding.

Chris_Williams
yeah, bring me proof then i'll believe you till then your just talking out of your butt and anyone can do that my friend, it sounds like your not to happy with your playstation, just sell it and go about your way instead of making topics on how much it disappoints you

if it improves loading times then who cares? As long as it is functional.

Wasdie
That is not the point. I respect your opinion, but why should we be happy with them lowering the resolution to solve the problem when simple optimization will do the exact same thing. This just sounds like a lazy company to me.
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#33 santoron
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[QUOTE="santoron"]

[QUOTE="ImprovedMind"] So you are happy that they are downgrading? To me, a proper fix would be to run some optimization code and find out why a simple menu system is running so slow. That is fine though I am sure that you liked losing PS2 backwards compatibility, Linux, and some third-party USB devices. Listen to what you are saying because it makes me sick.ImprovedMind

You're sick about someone valuing performance over resolution on a menu? :?

Also, has anyone actually found a link about this? I've been googling around and can't find anything...

I am sick that I paid $600 for a system that lost my Linux support and use of three of my USB memory sticks. Now instead of doing the right thing and optimizing the menu, they are just lowering the resolution so that the system can handle it. No console that is unable to run a menu will ever have the graphics king title.

.... Because in game menu overlays are what I look at when comparing graphics :roll: Have you Looked at the in game XMB since 3.5? Does it look any different to you?

Look, one guy posted he heard about it, but couldn't actually find a link. Apparently he still hasn't as he never updated his post. I can't find ANY information about this, and no one else on the thread has ever heard of this before, or shown any source to confirm this... can you?

Finally, sorry to hear you lost use of 3 flash drives. Last I checked you'd be the only person on SW to lose 1, so please post up the make and model so we can keep some sort of list. Since Sony's aim was to eliminate counterfeit Dualshocks and unlicensed controllers, you should also probably notify customer support.

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#34 Chris_Williams
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[QUOTE="ImprovedMind"][QUOTE="Chris_Williams"][QUOTE="ImprovedMind"] yeah, bring me proof then i'll believe you till then your just talking out of your butt and anyone can do that my friend, it sounds like your not to happy with your playstation, just sell it and go about your way instead of making topics on how much it disappoints you

if it improves loading times then who cares? As long as it is functional.

Wasdie
That is not the point. I respect your opinion, but why should we be happy with them lowering the resolution to solve the problem when simple optimization will do the exact same thing. This just sounds like a lazy company to me.

what the heck, if its faster and smoother for me to get in and out of my games i don't care if it was standard resolution
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#35 DarkerKamikaze
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It looks the same to me.

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#36 ImprovedMind
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[QUOTE="ImprovedMind"][QUOTE="santoron"]

You're sick about someone valuing performance over resolution on a menu? :?

Also, has anyone actually found a link about this? I've been googling around and can't find anything...

santoron

I am sick that I paid $600 for a system that lost my Linux support and use of three of my USB memory sticks. Now instead of doing the right thing and optimizing the menu, they are just lowering the resolution so that the system can handle it. No console that is unable to run a menu will ever have the graphics king title.

.... Because in game menu overlays are what I look at when comparing graphics :roll: Have you Looked at the in game XMB since 3.5? Does it look any different to you?

Look, one guy posted he heard about it, but couldn't actually find a link. Apparently he still hasn't as he never updated his post. I can't find ANY information about this, and no one else on the thread has ever heard of this before, or shown any source to confirm this... can you?

Finally, sorry to hear you lost use of 3 flash drives. Last I checked you'd be the only person on SW to lose 1, so please post up the make and model so we can keep some sort of list. Since Sony's aim was to eliminate counterfeit Dualshocks and unlicensed controllers, you should also probably notify customer support.

I cannot provide that information right now as I am going to play Halo Reach with some friends, but rest assured I will provide model numbers, pictures, video, etc. in a few hours. Keep this thread alive so that I don't get criticized for bumping a dead thread.
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#37 santoron
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That is not the point. I respect your opinion, but why should we be happy with them lowering the resolution to solve the problem when simple optimization will do the exact same thing. This just sounds like a lazy company to me.ImprovedMind

Again, you're theorizing that a simple optimization was all that was needed. You have absolutely no information to support that. Kind of like we have no information yet that this is even true.

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#38 Rikusaki
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It runs smoother now.

I really don't see what the problem is. Stop complaining.

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#39 santoron
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I cannot provide that information right now as I am going to play Halo Reach with some friends, but rest assured I will provide model numbers, pictures, video, etc. in a few hours. Keep this thread alive so that I don't get criticized for bumping a dead thread.ImprovedMind

Fair enough. I imagine make and models would be enough, but since you're offering, pictures or video of the error message you're getting when using them would be nice as well, since we've had almost no one encounter an issue, it'd be nice to see what's happening.

And don't worry, no one will complain about posting to a thread a few hours old.

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#40 RogueShodown
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I'm no programmer, but I don't think downgrading the XMB visually would make it run smoother since it's just a bunch of icons anyway. I also haven't seen any differences in its look and speed before and after coming across this thread, so I'm calling BS.

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#41 imprezawrx500
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lol steam can run an ingame web browser with tabs all in 1080p as well as all the chat etc and ps3 can't even run a half decent web browser out side games or a hd ingame xmb. Ps3 really was hyped up for much more than it is.
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#42 Console_Gamer93
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I downloaded 3.50 the day it came out and I didn't notice anything different.

In fact im looking at it right now and still don't notice anything different...but I guess since the XMB is 'dumbed down' i better throw out all my games because the XMB doesn't look as nice anymore.

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#43 RogueShodown
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lol steam can run an ingame web browser with tabs all in 1080p as well as all the chat etc and ps3 can't even run a half decent web browser out side games or a hd ingame xmb. Ps3 really was hyped up for much more than it is. imprezawrx500
You should probably use a PS3 before you make baseless claims. TC still hasn't posted any links confirming the downgrading of the in-game XMB. Like I said before, I don't think downgrading the in-game XMB to SD resolution would make it run any faster, as icons shouldn't take much power to display. It just doesn't make sense for them to do that, instead of just cutting out things that wouldn't be of any use while playing a game.

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#45 Karnage108
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PS3: it only does downgrading

sikanderahmed

I lol'd. But seriously, they're downgrading the already weak in-game XMB :?

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#46 thelastguy
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Looks the same to me

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#47 ultraking
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lol steam can run an ingame web browser with tabs all in 1080p as well as all the chat etc and ps3 can't even run a half decent web browser out side games or a hd ingame xmb. Ps3 really was hyped up for much more than it is. imprezawrx500
the Playstation3web browser is actually pretty good

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#48 RogueShodown
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[QUOTE="sikanderahmed"]

PS3: it only does downgrading

Karnage108

I lol'd. But seriously, they're downgrading the already weak in-game XMB :?

How would you know they downgraded it if you don't have a PS3. Do you believe anything you're told as long as it's in your favor?
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#49 J-WOW
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I call shenanigans. Can't find anything on the net on the issue.exiledsnake
I call shenanigans cuz I havent notice anything (or at least dont remember any difference, I havent play my PS3 in 2days)
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#50 Nonstop-Madness
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fw3.50 introduced a new error notification system. I got an error code 8002????? and it told me the problem and how to fix it. other than that ...... I call BS on downgrading the xmb.