PS3 is more powerful the then the Xbox 360 right?

[QUOTE="Rashpal"][QUOTE="aarons914"]

[QUOTE="TriangleHard"]Ok first

John Carmack > IGN.com, I'll trust John Carmack over IGN.com and John Carmack said PS3 is more powerful system but only by a small margin.

second, RSX is actually more powerful GPU than Xbox 360. The difference comes from VRAM.

PS3 has 24 pipeline while Xbox 360 has 48 pipeline, which is due to Xbox 360s unique structure of sharing 1 512 MB RAM with CPU and GPU, while PS3 uses 1 256 MB RAM strictly on GPU and 1 256 MB RAM on CPU.

Does that mean Xbox 360 is more powerful? The answer is no because of power of RSX, PS3 pipeline can do almost 3 times amount of task Xbox 360 can.

so think of it as that Xbox 360 GPU can do 48 tasks at once on 1/3 of speed of PS3 and PS3 GPU can do 24 tasks at once but 3 times the speed of XBox 360.

As for the question why PS 3 looks not as good as Xbox 360, the answer is simple.

First PS3 has complicated hardware architechture especially when it comes to Cell processor, making it difficult for game developers to take good advantage of the system

but Xbox 360 has very developer friendly hardware architechture starting with their Xenon, making it easier for game developers to take good advantage of the system. Also it's been out for longer so developers are more used to the system.

Well that's how I understood it after a little bit of research.

So what does this mean?

Anything PS3 can do Xbox 360 can do, and anything Xbox 360 can do PS3 can do, just in different ways.
aarons914

Actually ps3 and xbox's gpu operates at 500mhz, ps3 has 32 total pipelines and xbox has 48 unified pipes, ignoring the fact that the 360 is much more efficient that is 1.5 times more graphic power right there and yes the ps3 has 256 VRAM, the xbox can use much more than 256 for video memory if it needs it. Do more research and actually comprehend it this time.

So you're saying the 360 devs can CHOOSE what they use the RAM for instead of capped at 256 for system or video? Yeah Id say that was pretty smart of MS too.

[QUOTE="aarons914"][QUOTE="Rashpal"][QUOTE="aarons914"]

[QUOTE="TriangleHard"]Ok first

John Carmack > IGN.com, I'll trust John Carmack over IGN.com and John Carmack said PS3 is more powerful system but only by a small margin.

second, RSX is actually more powerful GPU than Xbox 360. The difference comes from VRAM.

PS3 has 24 pipeline while Xbox 360 has 48 pipeline, which is due to Xbox 360s unique structure of sharing 1 512 MB RAM with CPU and GPU, while PS3 uses 1 256 MB RAM strictly on GPU and 1 256 MB RAM on CPU.

Does that mean Xbox 360 is more powerful? The answer is no because of power of RSX, PS3 pipeline can do almost 3 times amount of task Xbox 360 can.

so think of it as that Xbox 360 GPU can do 48 tasks at once on 1/3 of speed of PS3 and PS3 GPU can do 24 tasks at once but 3 times the speed of XBox 360.

As for the question why PS 3 looks not as good as Xbox 360, the answer is simple.

First PS3 has complicated hardware architechture especially when it comes to Cell processor, making it difficult for game developers to take good advantage of the system

but Xbox 360 has very developer friendly hardware architechture starting with their Xenon, making it easier for game developers to take good advantage of the system. Also it's been out for longer so developers are more used to the system.

Well that's how I understood it after a little bit of research.

So what does this mean?

Anything PS3 can do Xbox 360 can do, and anything Xbox 360 can do PS3 can do, just in different ways.
gnutux

Actually ps3 and xbox's gpu operates at 500mhz, ps3 has 32 total pipelines and xbox has 48 unified pipes, ignoring the fact that the 360 is much more efficient that is 1.5 times more graphic power right there and yes the ps3 has 256 VRAM, the xbox can use much more than 256 for video memory if it needs it. Do more research and actually comprehend it this time.

So you're saying the 360 devs can CHOOSE what they use the RAM for instead of capped at 256 for system or video? Yeah Id say that was pretty smart of MS too.

In 360 you can have as much texture memory as you like, in PS3 you simply have to fetch textures from main memory to use the other 256MB, the slowest process ever is texture fetching, that is why it can't be done real time, so in seesnce PS3 does have only 256MB texture ram, 360 can have up to 500MB

[QUOTE="gnutux"][QUOTE="aarons914"][QUOTE="Rashpal"][QUOTE="aarons914"]

[QUOTE="TriangleHard"]Ok first

John Carmack > IGN.com, I'll trust John Carmack over IGN.com and John Carmack said PS3 is more powerful system but only by a small margin.

second, RSX is actually more powerful GPU than Xbox 360. The difference comes from VRAM.

PS3 has 24 pipeline while Xbox 360 has 48 pipeline, which is due to Xbox 360s unique structure of sharing 1 512 MB RAM with CPU and GPU, while PS3 uses 1 256 MB RAM strictly on GPU and 1 256 MB RAM on CPU.

Does that mean Xbox 360 is more powerful? The answer is no because of power of RSX, PS3 pipeline can do almost 3 times amount of task Xbox 360 can.

so think of it as that Xbox 360 GPU can do 48 tasks at once on 1/3 of speed of PS3 and PS3 GPU can do 24 tasks at once but 3 times the speed of XBox 360.

As for the question why PS 3 looks not as good as Xbox 360, the answer is simple.

First PS3 has complicated hardware architechture especially when it comes to Cell processor, making it difficult for game developers to take good advantage of the system

but Xbox 360 has very developer friendly hardware architechture starting with their Xenon, making it easier for game developers to take good advantage of the system. Also it's been out for longer so developers are more used to the system.

Well that's how I understood it after a little bit of research.

So what does this mean?

Anything PS3 can do Xbox 360 can do, and anything Xbox 360 can do PS3 can do, just in different ways.
LabWarrior1

Actually ps3 and xbox's gpu operates at 500mhz, ps3 has 32 total pipelines and xbox has 48 unified pipes, ignoring the fact that the 360 is much more efficient that is 1.5 times more graphic power right there and yes the ps3 has 256 VRAM, the xbox can use much more than 256 for video memory if it needs it. Do more research and actually comprehend it this time.

So you're saying the 360 devs can CHOOSE what they use the RAM for instead of capped at 256 for system or video? Yeah Id say that was pretty smart of MS too.

In 360 you can have as much texture memory as you like, in PS3 you simply have to fetch textures from main memory to use the other 256MB, the slowest process ever is texture fetching, that is why it can't be done real time, so in seesnce PS3 does have only 256MB texture ram, 360 can have up to 500MB

[QUOTE="aarons914"]

[QUOTE="TriangleHard"]Ok first

John Carmack > IGN.com, I'll trust John Carmack over IGN.com and John Carmack said PS3 is more powerful system but only by a small margin.

second, RSX is actually more powerful GPU than Xbox 360. The difference comes from VRAM.

PS3 has 24 pipeline while Xbox 360 has 48 pipeline, which is due to Xbox 360s unique structure of sharing 1 512 MB RAM with CPU and GPU, while PS3 uses 1 256 MB RAM strictly on GPU and 1 256 MB RAM on CPU.

Does that mean Xbox 360 is more powerful? The answer is no because of power of RSX, PS3 pipeline can do almost 3 times amount of task Xbox 360 can.

so think of it as that Xbox 360 GPU can do 48 tasks at once on 1/3 of speed of PS3 and PS3 GPU can do 24 tasks at once but 3  times the speed of XBox 360.

As for the question why PS 3 looks not as good as Xbox 360, the answer is simple.

First PS3 has complicated hardware architechture especially when it comes to Cell processor, making it difficult for game developers to take good advantage of the system

but Xbox 360 has very developer friendly hardware architechture starting with their Xenon, making it easier for game developers to take good advantage of the system. Also it's been out for longer so developers are more used to the system.

Well that's how I understood it after a little bit of research.

So what does this mean?

Anything PS3 can do Xbox 360 can do, and anything Xbox 360 can do PS3 can do, just in different ways.
Rashpal

Actually ps3 and xbox's gpu operates at 500mhz, ps3 has 32 total pipelines and xbox has 48 unified pipes, ignoring the fact that the 360 is much more efficient that is 1.5 times more graphic power right there and yes the ps3 has 256 VRAM, the xbox can use much more than 256 for video memory if it needs it. Do more research and actually comprehend it this time.

:lol: I love these tech threads becauseyou always get some dumbass lemming thinking they know how both console work :lol: PS3 can access and use XDR RAM for texturing and it ALREADY has in a Motorstorm, Heavenly Sword and loads of other games. :roll:mrboo15

Yeah and we all know those games are state of the art.

PS3 looks good on paper, but not in practice.Etherninty

To sum up:

The 360 is the clear winner.

To sum up:

The 360 is the clear winner.

CarlosPontinas

You're losing credibility here fast as a new poster, soon, even Lems wont beleive ya.
That 1up and IGN link you used were not only old and disproved time and time again, but the 360 can't be a clear winner when the competition is too new.

Both systems still have a ton to show us. This thing just is just beginning.

[QUOTE="CarlosPontinas"]

To sum up:

The 360 is the clear winner.

XTy

You're losing credibility here fast as a new poster, soon, even Lems wont beleive ya.
That 1up and IGN link you used were not only old and disproved time and time again, but the 360 can't be a clear winner when the competition is too new.

Both systems still have a ton to show us. This thing just is just beginning.

That's all there is to this.

Personally I could care less if the 360 or ps3 is more powerful (pc kills all), I only care who has the best games imo that's what counts. So far the 360 has better games,better online multi player and cost less imo that's what's most important. As proof that power does not equal better games gow2 is better than anything currently on the ps3. All power does is expand the options open open to the game developer but how the dev uses said power is what matters most imo.LordoverFeind

There are alot of articles breaking down and explaining how powerful both these systems are

In reality, the PS3 is a disapointment for one reason, it promised to blow the 360 away graphically, and it has not, and will never be significantly better than the 360

The PS3 was supposed to be the most powerful computer, so powerful you would throw your crappy pc at the old lady down the street, I don't see that happening anytime soon

In the end, its a game machine, a toy, and while powerful, its not really anymore powerful than the 360, and certainly not more powerful that a good PC, Sony execs need to shut thier mouths, maybe they could thin thier herd and lower the PS3 price, and release some good games, cause from where I'm sitting, the 360 has alot of great games on the horizon, and that is what really matters

There are alot of articles breaking down and explaining how powerful both these systems are

In reality, the PS3 is a disapointment for one reason, it promised to blow the 360 away graphically, and it has not, and will never be significantly better than the 360

The PS3 was supposed to be the most powerful computer, so powerful you would throw your crappy pc at the old lady down the street, I don't see that happening anytime soon

In the end, its a game machine, a toy, and while powerful, its not really anymore powerful than the 360, and certainly not more powerful that a good PC, Sony execs need to shut thier mouths, maybe they could thin thier herd and lower the PS3 price, and release some good games, cause from where I'm sitting, the 360 has alot of great games on the horizon, and that is what really matters

crispytheone88

The game list on 360 destroys any  future PS3 might have