PS3: It only loses another feature

If you're serious about HD, you'll use HDMI anyway.

Zophar87

[QUOTE="Zophar87"]

If you're serious about HD, you'll use HDMI anyway.

Stevo_the_gamer

720p is perfectly fine for games imo.

Bigboi500

Actually it was a terible deal. Even in 2009 it was a terrible deal.

AmazonTreeBoa

That's not a issue for anyone with a modern TV, but it is quite the issue for older TV set, even HD ones. I don't know of any SD TVs that came with HDMI, and even many early HDTVs didn't have the hook up.DerekLoffin

So are we suppose to up in arms about this or something?....

I actually LIKE the RGB cables, because my PS3 seems to be uncooperative when I attempt to output at HDMI, so I only have that around when I feel the need to hook up my laptop to the TV.

I'm a moron, help me out here.

TrapJak

I'll use visual aid.

The new models of PS3 will require you to use an HDMI Cable

if you want to game in HD on a Hidef TV. Fortunately you can buy these type of cables for like $2 on Amazon.

[QUOTE="Bigboi500"]720p is perfectly fine for games imo.

Stevo_the_gamer

[QUOTE="TrapJak"]

I'm a moron, help me out here.

Lionheart08

I'll use visual aid.

The new models of PS3 will require you to use an HDMI Cable

if you want to game in HD on a Hidef TV. Fortunately you can buy these type of cables for like $2 on Amazon.

If you find a cable that looks like that for 2 dollars from amazon. You better PM me. I'll buy 10!

[QUOTE="Lionheart08"]

[QUOTE="TrapJak"]

I'm a moron, help me out here.

Baxhand

I'll use visual aid.

The new models of PS3 will require you to use an HDMI Cable

if you want to game in HD on a Hidef TV. Fortunately you can buy these type of cables for like $2 on Amazon.

If you find a cable that looks like that for 2 dollars from amazon. You better PM me. I'll buy 10!

I just want to add that componet on the PS3 has looked horrible no mater what TV I used it with.... so good riddance. The only reason I ever used component was because of the stupid HDCP in the PS3 even while playing a game. HDMI is a night and day difference at least on the PS3.

If you find a cable that looks like that for 2 dollars from amazon. You better PM me. I'll buy 10!

Baxhand

I'm assuming you're meaning a net jacket HDMI cable. In that case, you're going to have to pay a bit more ($7.16 at monoprice).

Kind of a weird decision if it turns out to be true, but I'm not gonna make more of it than it really is. The # of people affected by this is going be be pretty small... A prospective PS3 buyer with a HDTV that either has no HDMI/DVI at all, or that it would be an unworkable hassle to rewire the connections to free up a HDMI/DVI connection from another component... yeah that's not exactly going to come up much.

At the beginning of the gen far more people with 480p/1080i TVs were affected by the lack of universal upscaling on the PS3, and that issue barely registered here. I can't see how this would be a bigger deal 4 years later.

[QUOTE="Baxhand"]

[QUOTE="Lionheart08"]

I'll use visual aid.

The new models of PS3 will require you to use an HDMI Cable

if you want to game in HD on a Hidef TV. Fortunately you can buy these type of cables for like $2 on Amazon.

KevinButlerVP

If you find a cable that looks like that for 2 dollars from amazon. You better PM me. I'll buy 10!

I would buy that picture he used if they were 2 dollars a piece at amazon. In a heartbeat.

If you find a quality cable like that monoprice cable for 2 dollars. Please let me know. PM me.

Yes there is a difference in HDMI cables. I'm not saying signal or price is that factor.

Not digital through put. That can't be changed or degraded by the digitalsignal like an analog signal can be. Unless there is a length involved in the cable.

I'm talking about the quality and the build of the cable. The components used in the manufacturing process. The connectors and such. Gold silver. Cable strength. "not signal strength".

Monoprice cables are top teir in that regard. They just feel of top quality. At a great price to boot.

As I said hook me up with a PM if you see cables of that build quality for 2 dollars on Amazon. I'm all over it.

[QUOTE="Zophar87"]

If you're serious about HD, you'll use HDMI anyway.

Stevo_the_gamer

I'm an everything gamer, but I admit that my PC definitely gets more love.

I just want to add that componet on the PS3 has looked horrible no mater what TV I used it with.... so good riddance. The only reason I ever used component was because of the stupid HDCP in the PS3 even while playing a game. HDMI is a night and day difference at least on the PS3.

GTSaiyanjin2

Yeah, this.. Component on PS3 looked horrible, I can honestly say that the Xbox 360 rivalled it as far as component goes.

[QUOTE="Baxhand"]

If you find a cable that looks like that for 2 dollars from amazon. You better PM me. I'll buy 10!

catfishmoon23

I'm assuming you're meaning a net jacket HDMI cable. In that case, you're going to have to pay a bit more ($7.16 at monoprice).

I buy all my cables and connectors from them. They are pure win.

Amazing build quality for the price. I feel like I'm stealing them.

HDMI cables are like $10... :|

StealthMonkey4

Not a problem for me. I have 4 HDMI ports, 2 are being used (360 & PS3 hooked up) and 2 empty. The rest, PS2 and GC, are hooked via Components.

Who uses compnent cables unless they're capturing?

Have to be honest and say I didn't even know it supported HD component cables in the first place.wraigth

lol at people not gaming on an hdtv by now. this is actually a step in the right direction. people need to get with the times. your telling me gaming on a sdtv is a good thing?

[QUOTE="Nonstop-Madness"]If you have an older HDTV that pre-dates HDMI ..... you should upgrade your TV. PBSnipes

It would cost ~$1800+ to replace my 56" DLP HDTV (which is component-only, save for one luckily HDCP-friendly DVI input) with a comparable LCD/Plasma model. Not exactly something I'm in a hurry to do.

Good thing they still make dlp's you can get a bigger tv for alot less 65" dlp for $879, 73" for $1,347, and 82" for $2000 but I get your point. spending hundreds to replace a t.v that works fine in HD because sony decides they want to get rid of a feature that works just fine would suck.

Here is what Sony has to say:

"Yesterday, we reported on a document, sent to Gamestop locations and obtained by Kotaku, that indicated Sony was disabling high-definition content via component cables. In discussing the latest PS3 model, the memo stated, "The 'K' systems will come with an AV cable, however, if you want to play a game or watch a movie in high definition you must use an HDMI cable," before going on to instruct employees to sell HDMI cables alongside the new systems. We've contacted Sony, which told us the report is inaccurate.

"The new CECH-3000 series PS3 requires HDMI only for BD movie output in HD, in compliance with AACS standards,"

Sony told Ars. "PS3 continues to support component output for HD gaming and streaming content." The Advanced Access Content System is a standard for DRM, and states that full high-definition video resolutions are limited to HDMI and DVI cables, which support HDCP. Starting in 2014, new Blu-ray players won't be able to include component ports at all in order to be in compliance with AACS standards. It's likely the author of Gamestop's document was simply confused about what the new systems will require. This will still be an annoyance for consumers with older high-definition televisions or those of us who use the component cables because we don't have enough HDMI connections for all the devices we want to plug in to our display, but at least your games and streaming content are safe."

http://arstechnica.com/gaming/news/2011/07/sony-explains-new-ps3-hdmi-required-for-hd-video-only-not-games.ars

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[QUOTE="Nonstop-Madness"]If you have an older HDTV that pre-dates HDMI ..... you should upgrade your TV. DJ_Headshot

It would cost ~$1800+ to replace my 56" DLP HDTV (which is component-only, save for one luckily HDCP-friendly DVI input) with a comparable LCD/Plasma model. Not exactly something I'm in a hurry to do.

Good thing they still make dlp's you can get a bigger tv for alot less 65" dlp for $879, 73" for $1,347, and 82" for $2000 but I get your point. spending hundreds to replace a t.v that works fine in HD because sony decides they want to get rid of a feature that works just fine would suck.

This is true, also 1300 for a 55 plasma , but I do agree with him, I wouldn't want to spend the extra cash if I'm happy with the tv I have.

Ah, it's only for watching BD movies? Meh, not as bad and not Sony's fault.

Here is what Sony has to say:

"Yesterday, we reported on a document, sent to Gamestop locations and obtained by Kotaku, that indicated Sony was disabling high-definition content via component cables. In discussing the latest PS3 model, the memo stated, "The 'K' systems will come with an AV cable, however, if you want to play a game or watch a movie in high definition you must use an HDMI cable," before going on to instruct employees to sell HDMI cables alongside the new systems. We've contacted Sony, which told us the report is inaccurate.

"The new CECH-3000 series PS3 requires HDMI only for BD movie output in HD, in compliance with AACS standards,"

Sony told Ars. "PS3 continues to support component output for HD gaming and streaming content." The Advanced Access Content System is a standard for DRM, and states that full high-definition video resolutions are limited to HDMI and DVI cables, which support HDCP. Starting in 2014, new Blu-ray players won't be able to include component ports at all in order to be in compliance with AACS standards. It's likely the author of Gamestop's document was simply confused about what the new systems will require. This will still be an annoyance for consumers with older high-definition televisions or those of us who use the component cables because we don't have enough HDMI connections for all the devices we want to plug in to our display, but at least your games and streaming content are safe."

FlamesOfGrey

Just saw this myself. OP updated.

UPDATE: Turns out this will affect movies only, and is the result of the movie industry's insistence on DRMing the bejeezus out of everything they can nowadays. Still a **** move on their part, but hardly something you can blame SCE for. I should've known better than to jump on a Kotaku story like that...

PBSnipes

Leave it to the movie industry to do something like this.

One can't even upscale DVDs via component on any device anymore including PS3 and 360.

Luckily I use HDMI, but it sucks for those with older televisions.

You scared me there for a second.

this is why I wont be buying a sony console ever again. All they do is take things away

this is why I wont be buying a sony console ever again. All they do is take things away

EdenProxy

Besides, you are only required to use HDMI for Blu-rays. Why you would try to buy and watch blu-rays on anything but a native 1080p connection is beyond me. You can still play games on component HD.

[QUOTE="EdenProxy"]

this is why I wont be buying a sony console ever again. All they do is take things away

Merex760

umm I thought you couldn't get HD through component cables anywayKevinButlerVP

This lol.

[QUOTE="EdenProxy"]

this is why I wont be buying a sony console ever again. All they do is take things away

Merex760

Besides, you are only required to use HDMI for Blu-rays. Why you would try to buy and watch blu-rays on anything but a native 1080p connection is beyond me. You can still play games on component HD.

This reminds me of how disappointed I am that modern HDTVs dont include S-Video ports.

[QUOTE="Merex760"]

[QUOTE="EdenProxy"]

this is why I wont be buying a sony console ever again. All they do is take things away

Phazevariance

Besides, you are only required to use HDMI for Blu-rays. Why you would try to buy and watch blu-rays on anything but a native 1080p connection is beyond me. You can still play games on component HD.

This is probably it. Although calling this a "feature" is stretching it. It's more like a supported video output, than a "feature."