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#101 T-razor1
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[QUOTE="T-razor1"]But as you said this is system wars and obviously people are free to make whatever rational or irrational argument they feel like doing to satisfy their needs but I just feel that some people get carried away with the "exclusive argument".110million
I hope you don't actually believe your rationale is anymore justified. The PS3 has a lot of multiplats that are on 360 as well, as well as a large portion of exclusives, ones that continue to come out this year. I think its perfectly fair to expect the only company that has console only and no handheld, to have more exclusives on their system. They even pull PC exclusives or 360/PC games (like Alan Wake) into pure 360 exclusives, and they are still lacking them lately.

Say wut? :? Don't even know what you're babbling about right now. I think I got tongue tied with the amount of times you used the word "exclusive". Lol whatever bro enjoy your exclusives. :|

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#102 TBoogy
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[QUOTE="FPSDad1161"]

Well it may be losing in the real world, but it's winning on System Wars! And we all know System Wars is way more important than real life. After this gen only Sony will exist because SW is the most important thing in the world, and Nintendo and MS will kill themselves at the request of the cows on SW.

Sony has become a joke to me this gen. I don't plan on buying another Playstation product again.

tormentos
...but like we all learn from last gen only US matter to xbox fans.

How does that relate to the situation last gen? Sony outsold Xbox for most of the gen in the U.S. as well. If anything, it shows that last gen people started making a switch to western games near the end of the Gen, which MS capitalized on this gen.
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#103 rasengan2552
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Well outta the 3 consoles its 3rd in sales and 2nd in games (Wii beats it for exclusives, 360 beats it for overall library, pick your poison), so yeah I'd say it's pretty much losing.locopatho
LOL@ Wii beats PS3 in exclusives. bwahahahahahahaha
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#104 rastotm
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It's actually a curious matter that no one mentioned the blue ray vs HD dvd battle, which blue ray won. On the long run, especially for those who enjoy movies, the ps 3 is a far superior choice especially now that most movie prublishers have taken their hands of the HD dvd. Another very serious matter that no one mantioned is that the XBOX is relativly easy to crack as opposed to the PS3, game sales are very important for any console and the Xbox 360 is missing out on ALOT of those sales due to piracy. Futhermore there doesn't seem to be any console 'losing' this GEN because gaming simlpy exploded.
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#105 rooktook
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sry to say what fanboys say buy ps3 has lost this war.
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#106 madsnakehhh
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Yeah, they lost the generation it seems, oh well who cares, i love my PS3.

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#107 Phazevariance
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despite many ps3 exclusives coming out this year. Microsoft managed to sell the xbox 360 very well and needless to say its still beating the ps3 in sales by a mile. heck, i went into my local gamestop last saturday at peak hour and there wasn't anybody at the ps3 section with the xbox 360 section full of people. what do you guys think?

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I think ps3 is still in last place even though its 2011 and they are finally getting a wad of new good exclusives. All those 'fortune tellers' of years past were just plain wrogn when they predicted PS3 would be top by the end of 2008, then 2009, then 2010, and then 2011...
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#108 Phazevariance
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Reminds me of the Gamecube... it was a very good console for its time, but was also in last place.

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#109 coolkid93
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I was right. This is another thread about console sales. I don't care how much it sales tbh. That doesn't stop my ps3 from working.
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#110 110million
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Say wut? :? Don't even know what you're babbling about right now. I think I got tongue tied with the amount of times you used the word "exclusive". Lol whatever bro enjoy your exclusives. :|T-razor1
To dumb it down, saying that system wars has irrational arguments people use to justify their needs, doesn't mean that what you were saying was rational or justified.
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#111 OhSnapitz
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It's actually a curious matter that no one mentioned the blue ray vs HD dvd battle, which blue ray won. On the long run, especially for those who enjoy movies, the ps 3 is a far superior choice especially now that most movie prublishers have taken their hands of the HD dvd. Another very serious matter that no one mantioned is that the XBOX is relativly easy to crack as opposed to the PS3, game sales are very important for any console and the Xbox 360 is missing out on ALOT of those sales due to piracy. Futhermore there doesn't seem to be any console 'losing' this GEN because gaming simlpy exploded.rastotm

glad to hear PS3 is an un-crack-able system.. :D


who's up for a round of Multiplayer on PSN... oh wait.

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#112 gmaster456
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This game again? Who cares how much a game console sells. Just enjoy whatever console(s) you choose and move on.
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#113 RandomWinner
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[QUOTE="Siamak8286"]

i think you are just over exaggerating, as a consumer and a gamer do you really care that much about numbers and sales? no really do you? does it really matter that how much the console of you choice ( PS3, XBOX 360, Wii ) sold when it keeps biringing exitement and entertainment to your home? i think if you care about how many people staring at PS3 game section in your local game stop, my dear friend you are playing video games for a wrong reason.

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clearly you don't understand economics then higher sales = continued adaptation, future development, more R&D, better support less sales = change of strategy, dropping the project altogether, more gimmicks to makeup for sales therefore as a gamer, i care about sales because despite how much i might love something, if it doesn't sell well, it won't live on to continue providing satisfaction which is why dwindling PC sales worries me and should worry you too because you own a rig. more consolized games, more DRM, less exclusives, etc. are these good things? no. and its all because of less sales so sales matter

Then your looking at the wrong thing. Take Two just announced that 39% of their profits came from PS3 and 40% from the 360. Considering how that jump was from 21% PS3 profits last year, the PS3 is likely to take over in this area aswell, making the PS3 preferable to develop for. Even if it hasn't made it in sale. Why do you think so many games aren't done on the Wii? Power, sure, but 3rd party games don't sell on that console.

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#114 xhawk27
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Sony from first to last so maybe next gen they can do better. :D
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#115 HAMMERCLAW
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Personally, I don't care who loses the console war, as long as the gamers win.
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#116 rastotm
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[QUOTE="rastotm"]It's actually a curious matter that no one mentioned the blue ray vs HD dvd battle, which blue ray won. On the long run, especially for those who enjoy movies, the ps 3 is a far superior choice especially now that most movie prublishers have taken their hands of the HD dvd. Another very serious matter that no one mantioned is that the XBOX is relativly easy to crack as opposed to the PS3, game sales are very important for any console and the Xbox 360 is missing out on ALOT of those sales due to piracy. Futhermore there doesn't seem to be any console 'losing' this GEN because gaming simlpy exploded.OhSnapitz

glad to hear PS3 is an un-crack-able system.. :D


who's up for a round of Multiplayer on PSN... oh wait.

Obviously i was talking about piracy
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#117 locopatho
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[QUOTE="locopatho"]Well outta the 3 consoles its 3rd in sales and 2nd in games (Wii beats it for exclusives, 360 beats it for overall library, pick your poison), so yeah I'd say it's pretty much losing.rasengan2552
LOL@ Wii beats PS3 in exclusives. bwahahahahahahaha

Well it does...
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#118 Shinobi120
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Why people insist in pointing that Sony loss market share to MS?tormentos

They did. They had about a 70% marketshare over both Microsoft & Nintendo last gen. Now, look what's happened. Most of the 3rd party games are being multiplat between the PS3 & the 360.

[QUOTE="locopatho"]Well outta the 3 consoles its 3rd in sales and 2nd in games (Wii beats it for exclusives, 360 beats it for overall library, pick your poison), so yeah I'd say it's pretty much losing.rasengan2552

LOL@ Wii beats PS3 in exclusives.

bwahahahahahahaha

It's true, though. Name me one 1st or 2nd party game from Sony's that even became a system seller. Really, name me one.

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#119 sethman410
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...Just because of what you saw at your local gamestop? Lol, there's more than one gamestop you know?
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#120 rastotm
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[QUOTE="tormentos"]

They did. They had about a 70% marketshare over both Microsoft & Nintendo last gen. Now, look what's happened. Most of the 3rd party games are being multiplat between the PS3 & the 360.

[QUOTE="rasengan2552"][QUOTE="locopatho"]Well outta the 3 consoles its 3rd in sales and 2nd in games (Wii beats it for exclusives, 360 beats it for overall library, pick your poison), so yeah I'd say it's pretty much losing.garland51


LOL@ Wii beats PS3 in exclusives.

bwahahahahahahaha

It's true, though. Name me one 1st or 2nd party game from Sony's that even became a system seller. Really, name me one.

Market share becomes a complicated concept when the market grows massively, it's not like ps3 had a significant loss of customers. And i think GT5 is a 1st or 2nd party game that can be considered a system seller
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#121 SolidTy
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It's true, though. Name me one 1st or 2nd party game from Sony's that even became a system seller. Really, name me one.

garland51

The Gran Turismo Video games, is just one. :P

I don't care about sales, but as far as Sales go, the GT series is up there with the Mighty Ones. I'm sure many in SW would be surprised to see GT5's current sales success. In fact, compare GT5 sales to Halo Reach sales, that may be interesting.

Also, MARKET SHARE resets every generation. This is a known fact. Every generation is reset from the previous gens.

Just like the Superbowl Champs from last year still have to go through the process of working their way to the next Superbowl the next year, EVEN THOUGH they were last year's winner.


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#122 iTzMaRk671
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currently xbox 360 is the best at quantity and quality. So yeah xbox is still winning.

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#123 _Cadbury_
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Lol epic fail OP. We don't need your stories bout ps3 consoles sitting on shelves. Gamespot themselves posted a news article awhile ago showing that the PS3 has actually been out-selling the 360. Nice try though.
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#124 sami117
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While that maybe true Pc always wins anyway.
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#125 iTzMaRk671
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[QUOTE="_Cadbury_"]Lol epic fail OP. We don't need your stories bout ps3 consoles sitting on shelves. Gamespot themselves posted a news article awhile ago showing that the PS3 has actually been out-selling the 360. Nice try though.

But the news article turned out to be false and on the latest news report 360 is still outselling the ps3. So yeah you fail!
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[QUOTE="_Cadbury_"]Lol epic fail OP. We don't need your stories bout ps3 consoles sitting on shelves. Gamespot themselves posted a news article awhile ago showing that the PS3 has actually been out-selling the 360. Nice try though.iTzMaRk671
But the news article turned out to be false and on the latest news report 360 is still outselling the ps3. So yeah you fail!


Lol where do you pull this rubbish from?http://www.gamespot.com/news/6308755.html?tag=latestheadlines%3Btitle%3B1

"Sony today confirmed that the PlayStation 3 hit a significant sales milestone in March, with the 50 millionth PS3 being purchased on March 29. The Xbox 360 took nine months longer to reach that particular milestone."
Sorry man try harder next time k :(

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#128 Phazevariance
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Sony went from first to last

-Hacked badly and user info compromised

-Online play taken down repeatedly

-Last place in sales

-Great exclusives but multiplats are often close to equal or inferior

-YLOD

So yeah, sony is losing this generation even with the monster that was RROD on the 360, they still remained ahead.

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#129 Fraquelli
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The Xbox 360 has Halo and Gears. These two franchises ALONE have DESTROYED the sales of ALL these games combined. Hell, Halo 3 and Halo Reach have done this. The numbers speak for themselves. Ironically, the 360 has the best JRPG this gen too, which is Lost Odyssey.

daledoback

What do the game sales do for you, really? Just because a game is certified to sell millions, is that the only incentive you have to buy them?

Just look at games like Okami and Chrono Trigger, for example. They didn't sell very well, but they are still considered some the best games of all time (infinitely better then any Halo or Gears game IMHO).

And Lost Odyssey the best JRPG this gen? lolwat? Clearly you don't own a DS.

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#130 iTzMaRk671
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Sony went from first to last

-Hacked badly and user info compromised

-Online play taken down repeatedly

-Last place in sales

-Great exclusives but multiplats are often close to equal or inferior

-YLOD

So yeah, sony is losing this generation even with the monster that was RROD on the 360, they still remained ahead.

Phazevariance

sadly the fact is sony was never first.

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#131 iTzMaRk671
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look at the number of sells the xbox 360 been getting, apparently the xbox 360 won this generation ):

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#132 fend_oblivion
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despite many ps3 exclusives coming out this year. Microsoft managed to sell the xbox 360 very well and needless to say its still beating the ps3 in sales by a mile. heck, i went into my local gamestop last saturday at peak hour and there wasn't anybody at the ps3 section with the xbox 360 section full of people. what do you guys think?

iTzMaRk671



The PS3 sold for 600 dollars compared to the relatively price tag of the 360. The fact that it sold enough to finally break even and then profit is proof that the PS3 withstood its competitors. No system has "lost" this generation. There were great games on all the systems.



needless to say its still beating the ps3 in sales by a mile.
iTzMaRk671


Going by your logic, the Xbox 1 must have been roadkill to the PS2.

Stop worrying about sales and enjoy your games man :)

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#133 fend_oblivion
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look at the number of sells the xbox 360 been getting, apparently the xbox 360 won this generation ):

iTzMaRk671



If I go by your logic again, then the system with the most sales must be the winner right? That makes the Wii the winner of this generation ;)

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#134 -ArchAngeL-777-
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despite many ps3 exclusives coming out this year. Microsoft managed to sell the xbox 360 very well and needless to say its still beating the ps3 in sales by a mile. heck, i went into my local gamestop last saturday at peak hour and there wasn't anybody at the ps3 section with the xbox 360 section full of people. what do you guys think?

iTzMaRk671
I think you need to reconsider what you call a mile. The 360 is outselling PS3 in the US alone. Everywhere else the PS3 is outselling 360. The 360 is actually only ahead because of its first year head start which PS3 has managed to cut in half. In other words, PS3 worldwide has sold more units than 360 within the PS3's lifetime. PS3 continues to outsell 360 on a weekly basis worldwide, but not by a huge amount. That is the key. Obviously no one on these boards wants to recognize 360's one year head start, so the question is will PS3 outsell 360 enough to make up that difference? The answer is probably going to be "close but not quite". Of course, if PS3 had an extra year of sales to even out the lifespans, then the answer is "absolutely and then some". BTW, the last time I was in a gamestop, the only people in there were in the PS3 section. It means just as little as your comment, but I just thought I would throw that out there lol
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#135 -ArchAngeL-777-
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[QUOTE="iTzMaRk671"]

look at the number of sells the xbox 360 been getting, apparently the xbox 360 won this generation ):

fend_oblivion



If I go by your logic again, then the system with the most sales must be the winner right? That makes the Wii the winner of this generation ;)

Exactly. Wii is so far ahead of 360 and PS3 that neither will catch it. 360 and PS3 are basically going to end up in a near tie for a distant second.
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#136 gibson-les-rick
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Who cares

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#137 Darth_DuMas
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I don't think anyones losing, both Sony and MS are more or less the same now and because they are so competitive, the consumers wining, devs and publishers are doing well and MS and Sony are doing well with them. Both have a healthy chunk of the market and are making money. Both have great games, motion thingys it's gotta have been fantastic gen from wherever you sit.

I think it's really healthy and I hope it's always the case.

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#138 Zaibach
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LOOOOOL oh my gooodness this place is too much,

Tell me fanboys when was the ps3 'winning'?

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#139 Infinite_Access
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If Playstation keeps coming out with excellent 1st party games.. (as usual in their generations) then it will be the console to live on and still sale games in retail stores.. (((see any gamecube.. xbox games in gamestop lately??? nope. I just bought FF X and XII for ps2 yesterday!)

Surprised so many people jumped on the xbox bandwagon this gen though for real. and can't see how anyone can justify how wanky that console is.. mine broke twice.. and they can screw themselves before I ever by a "slim" model, I shouldn't have to buy even a second one in the first place.

Combination of coming out with a console first... making it cheaper (which shows... ) and luckily having one franchise with superb multiplayer (halo) will do that though.

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#140 deactivated-66e3137ab3ad5
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If Playstation keeps coming out with excellent 1st party games.. (as usual in their generations) then it will be the console to live on and still sale games in retail stores.. (((see any gamecube.. xbox games in gamestop lately??? nope. I just bought FF X and XII for ps2 yesterday!)

Surprised so many people jumped on the xbox bandwagon this gen though for real. and can't see how anyone can justify how wanky that console is.. mine broke twice.. and they can screw themselves before I ever by a "slim" model, I shouldn't have to buy even a second one in the first place.

Combination of coming out with a console first... making it cheaper (which shows... ) and luckily having one franchise with superb multiplayer (halo) will do that though.

Infinite_Access
Tell that to the 55 million people who bought the system.
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#142 EmperorSupreme
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currently xbox 360 is the best at quantity and quality. So yeah xbox is still winning.

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Did I just go back to 2006? quanitity and quality what? It's not games
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#143 planbfreak4eva
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despite many ps3 exclusives coming out this year. Microsoft managed to sell the xbox 360 very well and needless to say its still beating the ps3 in sales by a mile. heck, i went into my local gamestop last saturday at peak hour and there wasn't anybody at the ps3 section with the xbox 360 section full of people. what do you guys think?

iTzMaRk671
3.5 million and 1 year head start...what a gap!...atleast ps3 still got games coming up. unlike other consoles which are at a halt...
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#144 zeta
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complaining about sales...again. Do any of you get paid for this?

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#145 kobedaGOAT
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This thread is flat out retarded. Especially considering the gap is quite small for a year head start and that the PS3 outsells the 360, WW, regularly. Regardless, why does this even matter? Leave it to console fanboys to argue over good, when the PC is stomping you with great...

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#146 Thewholetruthz
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PS3 is running out of gas, they have 4 major flops in 8 months and there online went down for a month. I think it's running on it's last legs. If Uncharted 2 doesn't get an AAA then it's all over.
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#147 zeta
Member since 2003 • 1189 Posts

Do any of you have degrees in this field? seriously...I would take your word if any of you muster up some crudentials..

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#149 Adamantium4k2
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[QUOTE="Thewholetruthz"]PS3 is running out of gas, they have 4 major flops in 8 months and there online went down for a month. I think it's running on it's last legs. If Uncharted 2 doesn't get an AAA then it's all over. iTzMaRk671
agreed.

Didn't that game get a 9.5 and a GoTY award?

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#150 ZoomZoom2490
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PS3 is running out of gas, they have 4 major flops in 8 months and there online went down for a month. I think it's running on it's last legs. If Uncharted 2 doesn't get an AAA then it's all over. Thewholetruthz
im glad ms is feeding you with kinect stuff, i dont blame them.