PS3 Move can control Starcraft - Sony

Device is precise enough to work with fiddly RTS, says creator

Sony has used its new PlayStation Move controller with StarCraft on PC to test how precise it is. And guess what? According to the platform holder, it works a dream.

Speaking at GDC in San Francisco on Thursday, PlayStation researcher Anton Mikhailov, said the PlayStation Eye is capable of tracking the Move's motion to a precision of about one millimeter in the X and Y-planes.

In order to show off Move's precision in layman's terms at GDC, Mikhailov added that Sony had successfully been able to use the device control the PC version of StarCraft.

The demo came after Sony's unveiling of the device on Wednesday evening (GMT) - where it claimed 36 developers and publishers were creating games for the peripheral. The firm subsequently promised that its focus on Move wouldn't affect its creation of core games.

If it's accurate enough, do you reckon it could ever replace the mouse, readers?

Interesting...

I don't think it can replace mice, especially the high end optical laser variety, but then again, I haven't used this Sony Move thing either.

Sounds precise.

I don't think it can replace mice, especially the high end optical laser variety, but then again, I haven't used this Sony Move thing either.

Sounds precise.

SolidTy

I'd actually like to see the test footage of them doing that. Now I am not going to say I don't believe them (also the fact move works with a PC game that well is pretty cool) but sony is known for overexaggerating.

I doubt it will ever replace the mouse. But a StarCraft 2 PS3 port would be interesting. The PC is still the best way to play a RTS though, no doubt.

Interesting, new era of rts on the ps3...

yeah you can control it, but probably not at a level where you could micro, or maybe even macro efficiently or effectively. i bet the wiimote+ could, but at the bare minimum just like the move.

its still cool regardless

I don't think it can replace mice, especially the high end optical laser variety, but then again, I haven't used this Sony Move thing either.

Sounds precise.

SolidTy

Pointing device law: Any pointing device can emulate other pointing device

Mouse and Keyboard is also superior, but it superiority stopped shooters on very less precise pad? No

And this is surprising how? The wiimote can control starcraft...

I doubt it will ever replace the mouse. But a StarCraft 2 PS3 port would be interesting. The PC is still the best way to play a RTS though, no doubt.

shinrabanshou

And this is surprising how? The wiimote can control starcraft...

goblaa

Move = more precise than wiimote

[QUOTE="goblaa"]

And this is surprising how? The wiimote can control starcraft...

Blazerdt47

Move = more precise than wiimote

No it isn't. The move's pointer is actually LESS accurate than the wiimotes, and it's waggle is just as 1:1 as WM+'s.

[QUOTE="Blazerdt47"]

[QUOTE="goblaa"]

And this is surprising how? The wiimote can control starcraft...

goblaa

Move = more precise than wiimote

No it isn't. The move's pointer is actually LESS accurate than the wiimotes, and it's waggle is just as 1:1 as WM+'s.

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It's funny watching these cows get all excited about features that came out 3 years ago on the wii..

[QUOTE="goblaa"]

[QUOTE="Blazerdt47"]

Move = more precise than wiimote

Blazerdt47

No it isn't. The move's pointer is actually LESS accurate than the wiimotes, and it's waggle is just as 1:1 as WM+'s.

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Um...those both look 1:1 to me. Just because wii sports table tennis isn't programmed to allow you to raise your paddle doesn't mean it's impossible for the wiimote to do it. Go find some footage of Frisbee before you make a fool of yourself again.

Besides, this topic is about the pointer....a totally different function of these controllers that the move is actually worse at. Before you go blabbing about motion tech, maybe you should learn how it works.

[QUOTE="goblaa"]

[QUOTE="Blazerdt47"]

Move = more precise than wiimote

Blazerdt47

No it isn't. The move's pointer is actually LESS accurate than the wiimotes, and it's waggle is just as 1:1 as WM+'s.

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and with natal paint your finger tip hyper color of some sort and pits it up as a pointer, paint 2 fingers one can be right mouse click the other left mouse click, same with Wii mote it can do the same. Its funny that Sony is so happy that they did what In their garage hackers have been doing with the Wii mote, and a bluetooth adaptor and some coding.

It's funny watching these cows get all excited about features that came out 3 years ago on the wii..

goblaa

[QUOTE="goblaa"]

And this is surprising how? The wiimote can control starcraft...

Blazerdt47

Move = more precise than wiimote

And this is surprising how? The wiimote can control starcraft...

goblaa

and with natal paint your finger tip hyper color of some sort and pits it up as a pointer, paint 2 fingers one can be right mouse click the other left mouse click, same with Wii mote it can do the same. Its funny that Sony is so happy that they did what In their garage hackers have been doing with the Wii mote, and a bluetooth adaptor and some coding.

WilliamRLBaker

[QUOTE="goblaa"]

It's funny watching these cows get all excited about features that came out 3 years ago on the wii..

killzowned24

Being an owner of WM+ I can honestly say it's a lot better than the original wii mote, but it is not 1:1 as Sony boast, but who knows. Maybe when Sonys controller release it wont be 1:1 also, but do not tell me WM+ is 1:1. There is a VERY obvious delay. It's just better than the original.

[QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"]

and with natal paint your finger tip hyper color of some sort and pits it up as a pointer, paint 2 fingers one can be right mouse click the other left mouse click, same with Wii mote it can do the same. Its funny that Sony is so happy that they did what In their garage hackers have been doing with the Wii mote, and a bluetooth adaptor and some coding.

killzowned24

Did he says its not possible? no he said it was not included but that doesn't mean its not possible from a coding standpoint, and is simply his teams inability to cope with problems and therefor ignoring an ability. LOL and don't even actually include the main R&D guy from Sony's move, why would any one ask him about a competing products capabilities.

Natal=bad
Move=bad

Both will be ignored motion sensing tech no real developer will actually take them seriously much like No developer besides nintendo takes Wii mote seriously, half the games even out of nintendo only half use the wii mote anyways.
But I'm not going to ignore facts that Natal with the right coding could do the exact same things, and the Wii mote all ready has, and Sony is some how excited they are doing something garage hackers have been doing with wii motes, and bluetooth adaptors and some coding since the Wii was released.

and with natal paint your finger tip hyper color of some sort and pits it up as a pointer, paint 2 fingers one can be right mouse click the other left mouse click, same with Wii mote it can do the same. Its funny that Sony is so happy that they did what In their garage hackers have been doing with the Wii mote, and a bluetooth adaptor and some coding.

WilliamRLBaker

Wii Motion+ perhaps, standard Wiimote, not as sure. Although I do recall the pointing function is reasonably accurate.

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Has anyone shown that you can use the Wiimote with a computer and control a RTS game with it?

Being an owner of WM+ I can honestly say it's a lot better than the original wii mote, but it is not 1:1 as Sony boast, but who knows. Maybe when Sonys controller release it wont be 1:1 also, but do not tell me WM+ is 1:1. There is a VERY obvious delay. It's just better than the original.

bigblunt537

[QUOTE="killzowned24"][QUOTE="goblaa"]

It's funny watching these cows get all excited about features that came out 3 years ago on the wii..

WilliamRLBaker

[QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"]

and with natal paint your finger tip hyper color of some sort and pits it up as a pointer, paint 2 fingers one can be right mouse click the other left mouse click, same with Wii mote it can do the same. Its funny that Sony is so happy that they did what In their garage hackers have been doing with the Wii mote, and a bluetooth adaptor and some coding.

shinrabanshou

Wii Motion+ perhaps, standard Wiimote, not as sure. Although I do recall the pointing function is reasonably accurate.

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Has anyone shown that you can use the Wiimote with a computer and control a RTS game with it?

1. now that the Natal dedicated processor is taken out then likely yes, but its still a coding problem in the end, not dimensional. 2.Don't have too show me a RTS controled just have too look at the Livemove 2 to see the Wii mote+motion plus is more then accurate.

[QUOTE="bigblunt537"]

Being an owner of WM+ I can honestly say it's a lot better than the original wii mote, but it is not 1:1 as Sony boast, but who knows. Maybe when Sonys controller release it wont be 1:1 also, but do not tell me WM+ is 1:1. There is a VERY obvious delay. It's just better than the original.

Ontain

I agree, but I think the light ball on the top will work a lot better with a camera than an IR reader would which I believe is used for the Wii mote.

[QUOTE="killzowned24"][QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"] because we all marveled at the first games shown for the Move...party games...pet games...minigames... Don't act like all of a sudden the biggest and best developers are going to put stuff on move, and all of a sudden we'll have amazing fps, rts and other such games on it.WilliamRLBaker

plumber guy and his princess was good when i was 8 years old maybe.

[QUOTE="Blazerdt47"]

[QUOTE="goblaa"]

And this is surprising how? The wiimote can control starcraft...

Jonas008

Move = more precise than wiimote

Sony demoed starcraft...not starcrat 2.

[QUOTE="shinrabanshou"]

[QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"]

and with natal paint your finger tip hyper color of some sort and pits it up as a pointer, paint 2 fingers one can be right mouse click the other left mouse click, same with Wii mote it can do the same. Its funny that Sony is so happy that they did what In their garage hackers have been doing with the Wii mote, and a bluetooth adaptor and some coding.

WilliamRLBaker

Wii Motion+ perhaps, standard Wiimote, not as sure. Although I do recall the pointing function is reasonably accurate.

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Has anyone shown that you can use the Wiimote with a computer and control a RTS game with it?

1. now that the Natal dedicated processor is taken out then likely yes, but its still a coding problem in the end, not dimensional. 2.Don't have too show me a RTS controled just have too look at the Livemove 2 to see the Wii mote+motion plus is more then accurate.

[QUOTE="goblaa"]

It's funny watching these cows get all excited about features that came out 3 years ago on the wii..

killzowned24

[QUOTE="goblaa"]

And this is surprising how? The wiimote can control starcraft...

Merex760

So because nintendo didn't demo a 12 year old game that only uses a pointer (and no waggle at all) at GDC, it's impossible on the wiimote?

Ypu don't even need WM+ to run starcraft. If the Move couldn't run starcraft it would had been a massive failure.

[QUOTE="killzowned24"][QUOTE="goblaa"]

It's funny watching these cows get all excited about features that came out 3 years ago on the wii..

WilliamRLBaker

Think of Dual controls like on a pc game where you can choose either a kb/mouse or Joystick - gamepad controls. Same thing with DS3 o/r move.

I believe it can replicate a mouse, it would be a little shaky because its not on a solid platform like a mouse, but precision wise i believe it. The reason i wouldnt want to play an RTS with it or anything is because of lack of keyboard. Even with a sub controler you wouldnt have the organization of a keyboard, let alone the same amount of buttons.

I believe it can replicate a mouse, it would be a little shaky because its not on a solid platform like a mouse, but precision wise i believe it. The reason i wouldnt want to play an RTS with it or anything is because of lack of keyboard. Even with a sub controler you wouldnt have the organization of a keyboard, let alone the same amount of buttons.

Sully28

Starcraft 2 port would be unreal.

Most of the controlling in Starcraft is done with the keyboard and tons of macros. The mouse is used, but it is hardly the principle controller when playing a competitive game of Starcraft.

I believe it can replicate a mouse, it would be a little shaky because its not on a solid platform like a mouse, but precision wise i believe it. The reason i wouldnt want to play an RTS with it or anything is because of lack of keyboard. Even with a sub controler you wouldnt have the organization of a keyboard, let alone the same amount of buttons.

Sully28

Well, as far as a stable platform, use your lap or an arm rest. I can't stand people who hold their arm out and then complain because they're doing something stupid. Never once have I had pointer precision issues in any game, even RTS-ish ones like pikmin.

As for the keyboard...yeah, you're right. The analog stick can 'kinda' make up for it by giving you a wheel of commands to quickly scroll through (think trauma center), and the d-pad can be used as 4 programmable macro buttons, but it's still no keyboard.