PS3 officially 2nd place, 360 now last place

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#1 double_heist
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Source :http://www.famitsu.com/news/201011/08035343.html

Tose's worldwide list of console sales:

Xbox 360 ____________41,000,000
Playstation 3__________42,000,000
Wii _________________74,000,000

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#2 JohnF111
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LOL MS posted Xbox sales at i think 44.6mill....
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#3 Sollet
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Hmm I predict a 10+ page long thread :P
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#4 Riverwolf007
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good, maybe you guys will finally feel validated about your purchase and be able to live with yourselves.

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#5 Immortal--
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MS said the 360 sold 45M a while ago.
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#6 RageQuit4Life
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Wow, Wii got 74 million consoles sold, very successful.

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#7 Sollet
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MS said the 360 sold 45M a while ago.Immortal--
Kinda funny this article is from... today :O
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#8 farnham
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last place selling and first place treatment is better then first place selling and last place treatment though

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#9 waltefmoney
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That doesn't compute. The official numbers released by the manufacturers are different. 360 is at least 44.6 million units. Wii is at least 75.9 million units.

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#10 SwagSurf
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Good luck mate! Big thread imminent!

*Runs away*

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#11 darth-pyschosis
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If true, coz I didn't click on link nor do I care to find out the autheticity of the topic, now the PS3 fans can claim the same silly thing PSP fans claim! Wedidn't finish last we finished second! Hooray for us!

JK. But I guess they technically aren't last, but honestly who cares if the PS3 outsells the 360 by 5 million units or if the 360 outsells the PS3 by 1 unit, the problem is Sony got seriously humbled this generation by Microsoft and Nintendo, it took them 4 years to recover, and even then if you call shipping 10 million units per calendar year a recovery after the decade success of PS1/PS2 than you should be disappointed, business-wise.

Additionally, the same GameCube arguement runs this gen as well, even if the PS3 outsells the 360 by 15 million units, what does it matter if Sony makes substantially less profit from the hardware, and overall money (software sales as well) as Microsoft and Nintendo?

But I think with Move, Kinect, this next 2-3 years is essentially a new gen, it'll be interesting to see where everything shakes out from this point on, if Nintendo loses more ground to the other two.

But as a proud owner of all three current gen consoles, I say that I don't think the 360 or PS3 outselling each other proves very little, either way they are showing now what consumers they really want with Move and Kinect, and it isn't exactly the consumer who visits these forums.

EDIT: It appears this likely isn't true, and that the 360 was reported to sell 45M a while ago, so my comment still stands on the general topic, just not the parts about the PS3 being 2nd now

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#12 navyguy21
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Guys, no need to argue, the link he posted doesnt say anything about numbers when translated, its about "30 year history of video games"
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#13 AbleFa3
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Source :http://www.famitsu.com/news/201011/08035343.html

Tose's worldwide list of console sales:

Xbox 360 ____________41,000,000
Playstation 3__________42,000,000
Wii _________________74,000,000

double_heist

Xbox 360 is at 45.000.000, so 3 million ahead of PS3

http://www.psu.com/forums/threads/244321-Greenberg-We-Have-Sold-Over-45-Million-Xbox-360-s

Where did you get these fake numbers from ?

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#14 Sollet
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That doesn't compute. The official numbers released by the manufacturers are different. 360 is at least 44.6 million units. Wii is at least 75.9 million units.

waltefmoney
Shipped =/= Sold herp derp. Well none the less something doesn't add up, either Famitsu/Tose are lying or they got their numbers wrong - or maybe MS lies?
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#15 PAL360
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And in a sudden sales are all that matter!

Anyway, 360 is still ahead :P

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#16 navyguy21
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[QUOTE="waltefmoney"]

That doesn't compute. The official numbers released by the manufacturers are different. 360 is at least 44.6 million units. Wii is at least 75.9 million units.

Sollet
Shipped =/= Sold herp derp. Well none the less something doesn't add up, either Famitsu/Tose are lying or they got their numbers wrong - or maybe MS lies?

Did you even click the link TC posted?
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#17 aaronmullan
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Oh wow. Seeing the Wii that far ahead of those two is hilarious.
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#18 Sollet
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[QUOTE="Sollet"][QUOTE="waltefmoney"]

That doesn't compute. The official numbers released by the manufacturers are different. 360 is at least 44.6 million units. Wii is at least 75.9 million units.

navyguy21
Shipped =/= Sold herp derp. Well none the less something doesn't add up, either Famitsu/Tose are lying or they got their numbers wrong - or maybe MS lies?

Did you even click the link TC posted?

Yes, Didn't you?
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#19 waltefmoney
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[QUOTE="waltefmoney"]

That doesn't compute. The official numbers released by the manufacturers are different. 360 is at least 44.6 million units. Wii is at least 75.9 million units.

Sollet

Shipped =/= Sold herp derp. Well none the less something doesn't add up, either Famitsu/Tose are lying or they got their numbers wrong - or maybe MS lies?

Well, according to Greenberg, Microsoft has sold over 45 million 360's.

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#20 Phazevariance
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[QUOTE="Immortal--"]MS said the 360 sold 45M a while ago.Sollet
Kinda funny this article is from... today :O

It can be from next year, but if it's wrong, its wrong. MS says they shipped 45+ million already, then this is not current data they've used. Using old data and releasing it today = poor.
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#21 Zophar87
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Uh, the Xbox 360 has actually sold 44.6 million units. Get your facts straight, please.

EDIT: And for the record, the PS3 has sold 41.6 million units.

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#22 Mike885
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this thread is gonna have a lot of flaming...

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#23 hiryu3
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last place selling and first place treatment is better then first place selling and last place treatment though

farnham
are you talking about M$ or Sony
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#24 Sollet
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[QUOTE="Sollet"][QUOTE="waltefmoney"]

That doesn't compute. The official numbers released by the manufacturers are different. 360 is at least 44.6 million units. Wii is at least 75.9 million units.

waltefmoney

Shipped =/= Sold herp derp. Well none the less something doesn't add up, either Famitsu/Tose are lying or they got their numbers wrong - or maybe MS lies?

Well, according to Greenberg, Microsoft has sold over 45 million 360's.

Hehe I know that he said that after correcting himself by posting other nr that suggest lower sales.
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#25 waltefmoney
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[QUOTE="waltefmoney"]

Well, according to Greenberg, Microsoft has sold over 45 million 360's.

Sollet

Hehe I know that he said that after correcting himself by posting other nr that suggest lower sales.

So you're willing to believe Enterbrain to be a more reliable source for Xbox 360 sales than Microsoft?

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[QUOTE="darth-pyschosis"]

If true, coz I didn't click on link nor do I care to find out the autheticity of the topic, now the PS3 fans can claim the same silly thing PSP fans claim! Wedidn't finish last we finished second! Hooray for us!

JK. But I guess they technically aren't last, but honestly who cares if the PS3 outsells the 360 by 5 million units or if the 360 outsells the PS3 by 1 unit, the problem is Sony got seriously humbled this generation by Microsoft and Nintendo, it took them 4 years to recover, and even then if you call shipping 10 million units per calendar year a recovery after the decade success of PS1/PS2 than you should be disappointed, business-wise.

Additionally, the same GameCube arguement runs this gen as well, even if the PS3 outsells the 360 by 15 million units, what does it matter if Sony makes substantially less profit from the hardware, and overall money (software sales as well) as Microsoft and Nintendo?

But I think with Move, Kinect, this next 2-3 years is essentially a new gen, it'll be interesting to see where everything shakes out from this point on, if Nintendo loses more ground to the other two.

But as a proud owner of all three current gen consoles, I say that I don't think the 360 or PS3 outselling each other proves very little, either way they are showing now what consumers they really want with Move and Kinect, and it isn't exactly the consumer who visits these forums.

EDIT: It appears this likely isn't true, and that the 360 was reported to sell 45M a while ago, so my comment still stands on the general topic, just not the parts about the PS3 being 2nd now

Sony wasn't humbled. PS3 came out a year late, was overpriced and Sony was losing money on the console.....and they still closed the gap and ended up making a profit. And considering the 2011 lineup, it will probably finish in a distant but comfortable second place. Not bad consider the huge disadvantage they started off with.
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#27 Sollet
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[QUOTE="Sollet"][QUOTE="waltefmoney"]

Well, according to Greenberg, Microsoft has sold over 45 million 360's.

waltefmoney

Hehe I know that he said that after correcting himself by posting other nr that suggest lower sales.

So you're willing to believe Enterbrain to be a more reliable source for Xbox 360 sales than Microsoft?

Naw, just saying don't believe everything you read - that goes both ways :P
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#28 Ravensmash
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Saw this earlier and it confused me. either someone has got their numbers wrong - or someone is not being truthful. I'm going with the former..
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#29 breakinglaws
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[QUOTE="Immortal--"]MS said the 360 sold 45M a while ago.Sollet
Kinda funny this article is from... today :O

So the Xbox lost 4 million units in sales? Interesting.

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#30 AbleFa3
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[QUOTE="Sollet"][QUOTE="waltefmoney"]

That doesn't compute. The official numbers released by the manufacturers are different. 360 is at least 44.6 million units. Wii is at least 75.9 million units.

waltefmoney

Shipped =/= Sold herp derp. Well none the less something doesn't add up, either Famitsu/Tose are lying or they got their numbers wrong - or maybe MS lies?

Well, according to Greenberg, Microsoft has sold over 45 million 360's.

Indeed, also Sony usually releases shipped numbers, like with Move and these mean nothing

Xbox 360 is 3-5 million head of PS3, and 10 million ahead in US !!!!

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=118793

11/01/10

There are OVER45 million consoles sold in 35 countries.

The worst part for Sony is that this is before Kinect, now 360 is selling at 10x rate

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#31 mayceV
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yeah... MS stated 44.6 so no. nice try keep hoping maybe kinect won't sell consoles.
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#32 rcafan
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funny how everything is not in English....
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#34 bigboss5ak
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Um..no. I don't even know what a tose is
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#35 Ravensmash
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Um..no. I don't even know what a tose isbigboss5ak
They're just below your lesg. :P
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#36 AmayaPapaya
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Xbox 360 ____________41,000,000
Playstation 3__________42,000,000
Wii _________________74,000,000

double_heist

Hmmmm....All I have to say is, Keep fighting for second place :twisted:

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#37 Diviniuz
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Um..no. I don't even know what a tose isbigboss5ak
they are a random game developer, which apparently system wars finds more creditable than sony/microsoft's numbers
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#38 UnrealDelusion
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yeah... MS stated 44.6 so no. nice try keep hoping maybe kinect won't sell consoles.mayceV

44.6 shipped so not 44.6m units sold

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#39 Ravensmash
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[QUOTE="mayceV"]yeah... MS stated 44.6 so no. nice try keep hoping maybe kinect won't sell consoles.UnrealDelusion

44.6 shipped so not 44.6m units sold

Didn't Greenberg say that it was sold. \
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#40 Gue1
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funny how everything is not in English.... rcafan

use a translator...

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#41 tagyhag
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People, read the link before you post. :lol:
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#42 navyguy21
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[QUOTE="mayceV"]yeah... MS stated 44.6 so no. nice try keep hoping maybe kinect won't sell consoles.UnrealDelusion

44.6 shipped so not 44.6m units sold

Shipped has always meant sold to retailers, so it is a sold unit according to MS and Sony.
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#43 AbleFa3
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Greenberg confirmed more than 45 million sold and that was in October

Now 360 is close to 47-48 million

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#44 Ravensmash
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People, read the link before you post. :lol:tagyhag
I skimmed it just now.... What is it even saying in that diagram with the current consoles?!
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#45 UnrealDelusion
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[QUOTE="UnrealDelusion"]

[QUOTE="mayceV"]yeah... MS stated 44.6 so no. nice try keep hoping maybe kinect won't sell consoles.navyguy21

44.6 shipped so not 44.6m units sold

Shipped has always meant sold to retailers, so it is a sold unit according to MS and Sony.

ah so the units MS ships to retailers are immediately sold?

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#46 AmayaPapaya
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People, read the link before you post. :lol:tagyhag

What? Hypocrisy.

No one reads the links anymore :P

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#47 lundy86_4
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ah so the units MS ships to retailers are immediately sold?

UnrealDelusion

What he means is that retailers pay for their shipment of consoles from MS/Sony/Nintendo. Sold to consumers is difficult to track, and they have no need to report those numbers.

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#48 right4dead
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Nice, PS3 caught up nicely after being a whole year back, and all those people re-buying their broken 360s, nice!!!

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#49 UnrealDelusion
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[QUOTE="UnrealDelusion"]

ah so the units MS ships to retailers are immediately sold?

lundy86_4

What he means is that retailers pay for their shipment of consoles from MS/Sony/Nintendo. Sold to consumers is difficult to track, and they have no need to report those numbers.

Well like the lems always say shipped doesn't equal sold so that the PS3 outsold the 360 and is in 2nd place now could very well be true.

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#50 lundy86_4
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Well like the lems always say shipped doesn't equal sold so that the PS3 outsold the 360 and is in 2nd place now could very well be true.

UnrealDelusion

It could very well be true, but it seems rather unlikely in the limited timeframe since the release of their official shipped numbers. Obviously demand has increased for the PS3 since 2007 though.

Shipped is sold, just not through to the consumer end, thus their shipped numbers =/= total userbase.