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#51 OhSnapitz
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How did I know there was going to be a link for Inaccuratecharts in this thread. Weren't they the same site that miss caclulated the October numbers by 200k? Why are fanboys still using this..

b esides I find it VERY hard to believe that the 360's #'s droped from 770k to 330 in that matter of one month. :|

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1st Week
360 - 36,901
PS3 - 22,102

2nd Week
PS3 - 51,763
360 - 34,396

3rd Week
PS3 - 45,101
360 - 32,538

4th Week
PS3 - 43,498
360 - 34,174


July Total Sales in the USA according to VGchartz
PS3 - 162,464
360 - 138,376

......behold, the VGchartz numbers that had Sony fanboys gloating and bragging.......that is until NPD numbers appeared. :lol:

Yellow_Rose
and the NPD numbers are...?
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[QUOTE="taker42"]Well it is kinda nice that although it's the New Year, cows are still as entertaining as ever. :lol:Ragnarok1051

I find the damage control from lemmings in this thread more entertaining.

As long as no one really takes this seriously, it's all good :wink:
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[QUOTE="Yellow_Rose"]

1st Week
360 - 36,901
PS3 - 22,102

2nd Week
PS3 - 51,763
360 - 34,396

3rd Week
PS3 - 45,101
360 - 32,538

4th Week
PS3 - 43,498
360 - 34,174


July Total Sales in the USA according to VGchartz
PS3 - 162,464
360 - 138,376

......behold, the VGchartz numbers that had Sony fanboys gloating and bragging.......that is until NPD numbers appeared. :lol:

Daffy101

and the NPD numbers are...?

  • Nintendo Wii: 425K
  • Nintendo DS: 405K
  • Sony PlayStation 2: 222K
  • Sony PSP: 214K
  • Microsoft Xbox 360: 170K
  • Sony PlayStation 3: 159K
  • Nintendo GBA: 87K
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#55 AzatiS
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[QUOTE="Daffy101"][QUOTE="Yellow_Rose"]

1st Week
360 - 36,901
PS3 - 22,102

2nd Week
PS3 - 51,763
360 - 34,396

3rd Week
PS3 - 45,101
360 - 32,538

4th Week
PS3 - 43,498
360 - 34,174


July Total Sales in the USA according to VGchartz
PS3 - 162,464
360 - 138,376

......behold, the VGchartz numbers that had Sony fanboys gloating and bragging.......that is until NPD numbers appeared. :lol:

Yellow_Rose

and the NPD numbers are...?

  • Nintendo Wii: 425K
  • Nintendo DS: 405K
  • Sony PlayStation 2: 222K
  • Sony PSP: 214K
  • Microsoft Xbox 360: 170K
  • Sony PlayStation 3: 159K
  • Nintendo GBA: 87K

Lol these are NPD's??

Hmm now lemmings would say tha VG is more accurate lol.... Cause NPD's numbers are worst for them

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#56 Yellow_Rose
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How did I know there was going to be a link for Inaccuratecharts in this thread. Weren't they the same site that miss caclulated the October numbers by 200k? Why are fanboys still using this..

b esides I find it VERY hard to believe that the 360's #'s droped from 770k to 330 in that matter of one month. :|

OhSnapitz

AsI have said time and time again, fanboys use vgchartz like a drunk man uses a street lamp post. For support not illumination. ;)

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#57 Yellow_Rose
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Hmm now lemmings would say tha VG is more accurate lol.... Cause NPD's numbers are worst for them

AzatiS

What are you talking about?

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#58 AzatiS
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Yellow_Rose i officaly making a bet with you that at the end of the year PS3 will surpass X360 on units sold worldwide.

And im gonna give you 1000$ in cash if i lose. Youll gimme only 1$ if you lose

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#59 killzowned24
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nice. when ps3 gets to be 360price it will sell alot better.
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#60 -Renegade
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[QUOTE="unholymight"]VGchartz has very reliable information .. and it's nice to see the PS3 taking the lead.Yellow_Rose

We are referring to the same VGchartz that had the PS3 over the 360 in NA in July, right?

or is it the same Vgchartz that had the PS3 outselling the Wii for a 3rd week in a row only for Media Create to show otherwise?

When was this because in Nov. PS3 outsold Wii in Japan.

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#61 OhSnapitz
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[QUOTE="Yellow_Rose"][QUOTE="Daffy101"][QUOTE="Yellow_Rose"]

1st Week
360 - 36,901
PS3 - 22,102

2nd Week
PS3 - 51,763
360 - 34,396

3rd Week
PS3 - 45,101
360 - 32,538

4th Week
PS3 - 43,498
360 - 34,174


July Total Sales in the USA according to VGchartz
PS3 - 162,464
360 - 138,376

......behold, the VGchartz numbers that had Sony fanboys gloating and bragging.......that is until NPD numbers appeared. :lol:

AzatiS

and the NPD numbers are...?

  • Nintendo Wii: 425K
  • Nintendo DS: 405K
  • Sony PlayStation 2: 222K
  • Sony PSP: 214K
  • Microsoft Xbox 360: 170K
  • Sony PlayStation 3: 159K
  • Nintendo GBA: 87K

Lol these are NPD's??

Hmm now lemmings would say tha VG is more accurate lol.... Cause NPD's numbers are worst for them

No Shemp... The Lemmings will stick with the PROVEN trackings of the NPD.. Regardless of whether the numbers are worse overall.. The 360 clearly beat out the PS3 that month even though inaccuratecharts had the PS3 ahead. Stop being suckered by those imps at that site.

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#62 AzatiS
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[QUOTE="AzatiS"]

Hmm now lemmings would say tha VG is more accurate lol.... Cause NPD's numbers are worst for them

Yellow_Rose

What are you talking about?

That USA isnt worlwide... and you dont do well thats what im talking about... And if X360 dont do that well in US its doomed

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#63 OhSnapitz
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[QUOTE="Yellow_Rose"][QUOTE="AzatiS"]

Hmm now lemmings would say tha VG is more accurate lol.... Cause NPD's numbers are worst for them

AzatiS

What are you talking about?

That USA isnt worlwide... and you dont do well thats what im talking about... And if X360 dont do that well in US its doomed

The last year the 360 has crushed the PS3 in the US.. So what's your point..

Besides does anyone have and ACCURATE tables for Europe?

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#64 Yellow_Rose
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Yellow_Rose i officaly making a bet with you that at the end of the year PS3 will surpass X360 on units sold worldwide.

And im gonna give you 1000$ in cash if i lose. Youll gimme only 1$ if you lose

AzatiS

The PS3 would have to outsell the 360 by over 600,000 units worldwide every month for that to happen.

Assuming that Vgchartz is even remotely true,PS3 is only outselling the 360 by about 200k a month, and that's only because of the holiday season.

......should I tell you more why this is a fool's bet?

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[QUOTE="AzatiS"][QUOTE="Yellow_Rose"][QUOTE="AzatiS"]

Hmm now lemmings would say tha VG is more accurate lol.... Cause NPD's numbers are worst for them

OhSnapitz

What are you talking about?

That USA isnt worlwide... and you dont do well thats what im talking about... And if X360 dont do that well in US its doomed

The last year the 360 has crushed the PS3 in the US.. So what's your point..

Besides does anyone have and ACCURATE tables for Europe?

The last year 360 was about how many months on market lol.... And wasnt 360 that really cryshed PS3.. Its teh Wii that did. Same launch date,better sales. Thats a crash...

And btw they crushed you even more. A console that was almost 1 year on the market with many games still couldnt make it be 1... In their own country... Thats a crush

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#66 real45
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These figures are innacurate. We won't know until the official unbiased numbers release.
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#67 AzatiS
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[QUOTE="AzatiS"][QUOTE="Yellow_Rose"][QUOTE="AzatiS"]

Hmm now lemmings would say tha VG is more accurate lol.... Cause NPD's numbers are worst for them

OhSnapitz

What are you talking about?

That USA isnt worlwide... and you dont do well thats what im talking about... And if X360 dont do that well in US its doomed

The last year the 360 has crushed the PS3 in the US.. So what's your point..

Besides does anyone have and ACCURATE tables for Europe?

And even worst for lemmings the REAL crush is when their X360 crush and melt lol

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#68 Yellow_Rose
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[QUOTE="Yellow_Rose"][QUOTE="AzatiS"]

Hmm now lemmings would say tha VG is more accurate lol.... Cause NPD's numbers are worst for them

AzatiS

What are you talking about?

That USA isnt worlwide... and you dont do well thats what im talking about... And if X360 dont do that well in US its doomed

A few fun facts.

1) NA is Still the biggest worldwide gaming market

2) 360 is STILL ahead of Ps3 in Europe as a whole.

3) The PS3 is not exactly flying off the shelves in Japan either. The Gamecube averaged 65K a week in Japan this time of year. The PS3 is only doing 50K.

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#69 Guitartod
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but i love my 360.....i dont care about sales..... you shouldnt either....im sick of this ps3 vs 360 thing cause they are both great systems!!!!btw i went to my local gamestop this morning to pick up uncharted on ps3 and i have to say that after playing both gears of war and uncharted at 1080p i have to say that they are BOTH!!!! Graphics king for consoles... i really couldnt tell what looked better first i thought gears then uncharted so im gonna say both!

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#70 Yellow_Rose
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nice. when ps3 gets to be 360price it will sell alot better.killzowned24

And then the 360 will get a price cut of its own, so the PS3 will still be more expensive.

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#71 Mystery_Writer
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ouch!

i guess it's downhil from here onward MS. good game :P

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#72 OhSnapitz
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[QUOTE="OhSnapitz"][QUOTE="AzatiS"][QUOTE="Yellow_Rose"][QUOTE="AzatiS"]

Hmm now lemmings would say tha VG is more accurate lol.... Cause NPD's numbers are worst for them

AzatiS

What are you talking about?

That USA isnt worlwide... and you dont do well thats what im talking about... And if X360 dont do that well in US its doomed

The last year the 360 has crushed the PS3 in the US.. So what's your point..

Besides does anyone have and ACCURATE tables for Europe?

The last year 360 was about how many months on market lol.... And wasnt 360 that really cryshed PS3.. Its teh Wii that did. Same launch date,better sales. Thats a crash...

And btw they crushed you even more. A console that was almost 1 year on the market with many games still couldnt make it be 1... In their own country... Thats a crush

Doesn't matter.. How many months on the market was the PS2 compared to the GC/XB? Exactly! The point is it's still beating the sht out of the PS3. Last month the 360 sold 770k while the PS3 sold 440k roughtly.. That's an ass kicking if you ask me.

And btw, A console that COMPLETELY desimated the competition last gen is currently in DEAD LAST PLACE on the market.. And it's getting it's ass handed to em in their own country by the wii... That's a crush. ;)

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#73 AzatiS
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[QUOTE="killzowned24"]nice. when ps3 gets to be 360price it will sell alot better.Yellow_Rose

And then the 360 will get a price cut of its own, so the PS3 will still be more expensive.

And even with its price cut it still gonna crush and melt..

PS3 will be more expensive but cheaper blu-ray machine on market ... lolita

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#75 RaveRabbid
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America DS-443046, Wii-325,762 PS3-143,771 PSP-150,238 x360-188,145

Others DS- 460,913 Wii-284,155 PS3-246,814 PSP-184,693 X360-142,155

Totals

DS- 903,959

Wii- 609,917

PS3-390,585

PSP- 334,931

X360-330,300


These numbers do not include Japan numbers. So the PS3 might have outsold the x360 by 100 hundred thousand units last week.8)

Vgchartz.com

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Jeremiah123456

Here we go again. These aren't official numbers but rather VGchartz own predictions and guesses. You know.... the kind they do every week and they are ALWAYS wrong every week.

Ofcourse, they'll adjust it once NPD and other official numbers are out. Until then, this is no more than hocus pocus.

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#76 Yellow_Rose
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[QUOTE="Yellow_Rose"]

[QUOTE="killzowned24"]nice. when ps3 gets to be 360price it will sell alot better.AzatiS

And then the 360 will get a price cut of its own, so the PS3 will still be more expensive.

And even with its price cut it still gonna crush and melt..

PS3 will be more expensive but cheaper blu-ray machine on market ... lolita

Well judging by PS3's piss poor game sales, I guess a cheap blu-ray player is all it's good for. ;)

And Sony knows it as well, which is why they pack in a "movie" for a so-called gaming console. ;)

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#77 OhSnapitz
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Just Wait....AzatiS

Yea.. Yea.. I know.. :roll:

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#78 Bristar
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The US has NPD #'s which are reliable.

Japan has Famitsu #'s which are also reliable.

Europe has no reliable tracking system- like it or not vgchartz is not reliable period, any idiot could see that.

It's pointless trying to guesstimate Europe's sales until official company numbers come out.

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#79 ganon546
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Most of the year:

Lemmings: The 360 out sold the PS3 again this week Source: Vgchartz.com

Cows: lol Vgchartz is an innacurate lemming run site

The odd week that the PS3 does well:

Cows: Hey Look the PS3 out sold the 360 Source: VgChartz

Logic FTL?

htekemerald

lol yeah, that's system wars and fanboys for ya.

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#80 Yellow_Rose
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[QUOTE="AzatiS"]Just Wait....OhSnapitz

Yea.. Yea.. I know.. :roll:

Yeah, he did spell "just wait" wrong and with far too many letters, didn't he? :lol:

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#81 -Renegade
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[QUOTE="AzatiS"][QUOTE="Yellow_Rose"][QUOTE="AzatiS"]

Hmm now lemmings would say tha VG is more accurate lol.... Cause NPD's numbers are worst for them

Yellow_Rose

What are you talking about?

That USA isnt worlwide... and you dont do well thats what im talking about... And if X360 dont do that well in US its doomed

A few fun facts.

1) NA is Still the biggest worldwide gaming market

2) 360 is STILL ahead of Ps3 in Europe as a whole.

3) The PS3 is not exactly flying off the shelves in Japan either. The Gamecube averaged 65K a week in Japan this time of year. The PS3 is only doing 50K.

:lol: Keep the delusions coming and btw PS3 is no gamecube. Gamecube never had FF and MGS the main series and never had Gran Turismoand major third party support like PS3 so don't even compare the two.

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#82 Dreams-Visions
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Vgchartz. lol. thread died in the womb.
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#83 Hoobinator
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Give it a year and the PS3 will have caught up considerably with the 360.

The 360 will never win the console race I guarantee it. 2nd best is all it can do. Being dead in Japan is like having one of your tyres being ripped off and being told to win a car race.

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i never understood why there is sales are so important to people. I'd rather have a system that has 100 games and 10 systems sold than one with 10 games and 100 systems sold.
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#85 RaveRabbid
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[QUOTE="OhSnapitz"]

[QUOTE="AzatiS"]Just Wait....Yellow_Rose

Yea.. Yea.. I know.. :roll:

Yeah, he did spell "just wait" wrong and with far too many letters, didn't he? :lol:

The famous Sony Slogan used for both games and sales. The question is, how long do we have to wait. Please don't say forever.

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#86 Yellow_Rose
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Keep the delusions coming and btw PS3 is no gamecube. Gamecube never had FF and MGS the main series and never had Gran Turismoand major third party support like PS3 so don't even compare the two.

-Renegade

That's funny. The PS2 dodn't have either one of those games when it sold 1 million its first weekend in Japan.

The gamecube took 4 months to sell a million in Japan

The PS3 took 8 months to sell a million in Japan.

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#87 Yellow_Rose
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Give it a year and the PS3 will have caught up considerably with the 360.

The 360 will never win the console race I guarantee it. 2nd best is all it can do. Being dead in Japan is like having one of your tyres being ripped off and being told to win a car race.

Hoobinator

That "dead" console still has a higher attach rate than Wii or PS3, even in Japan. ;)

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#88 -Renegade
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[QUOTE="-Renegade"]

Keep the delusions coming and btw PS3 is no gamecube. Gamecube never had FF and MGS the main series and never had Gran Turismoand major third party support like PS3 so don't even compare the two.

Yellow_Rose

That's funny. The PS2 dodn't have either one of those games when it sold 1 million its first weekend in Japan.

The gamecube took 4 months to sell a million in Japan

The PS3 took 8 months to sell a million in Japan.

PS2 shipped 10 million units at the end of 2001 now remember PS2 launched in March of 2000. PS3 has sold almost 9 million units at the end of 2007. PS2 really didn't pick up until its second year. Looks like Sony is headed for a repeat. :D

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Vgchartz weekly sales... *Makes loud fart noise* Yup
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#90 Yellow_Rose
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[QUOTE="Yellow_Rose"][QUOTE="-Renegade"]

Keep the delusions coming and btw PS3 is no gamecube. Gamecube never had FF and MGS the main series and never had Gran Turismoand major third party support like PS3 so don't even compare the two.

-Renegade

That's funny. The PS2 dodn't have either one of those games when it sold 1 million its first weekend in Japan.

The gamecube took 4 months to sell a million in Japan

The PS3 took 8 months to sell a million in Japan.

PS2 shipped 10 million units at the end of 2001 now remember PS2 launched in March of 2000. PS3 has sold almost 9 million units at the end of 2008. PS2 really didn't pick up until its second year. Looks like Sony is headed for a repeat. :D

I'll give you 15 minutes to figure out for yourself how you just contradicted yourself.

....starting now. ;)

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[QUOTE="Yellow_Rose"][QUOTE="-Renegade"]

Keep the delusions coming and btw PS3 is no gamecube. Gamecube never had FF and MGS the main series and never had Gran Turismoand major third party support like PS3 so don't even compare the two.

-Renegade

That's funny. The PS2 dodn't have either one of those games when it sold 1 million its first weekend in Japan.

The gamecube took 4 months to sell a million in Japan

The PS3 took 8 months to sell a million in Japan.

PS2 shipped 10 million units at the end of 2001 now remember PS2 launched in March of 2000. PS3 has sold almost 9 million units at the end of 2008. PS2 really didn't pick up until its second year. Looks like Sony is headed for a repeat. :D

The market is a very different place than it was back then. Sony had hype, EA, and a lack of competition. This time everyone has EA, their sales and software are mediocre, and there is no system-seller on the horizon for at least 6 more months.

There's no reason to even suspect the PS3 will outsell the 360 any month soon. much less the Wii.

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#92 Hoobinator
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[QUOTE="Hoobinator"]

Give it a year and the PS3 will have caught up considerably with the 360.

The 360 will never win the console race I guarantee it. 2nd best is all it can do. Being dead in Japan is like having one of your tyres being ripped off and being told to win a car race.

Yellow_Rose

That "dead" console still has a higher attach rate than Wii or PS3, even in Japan. ;)

I never said anything about attach rates. :| or Game sales for that matter. :|

It's all about who sells the most. That's what wins you the war in System Wars. And like I said 16 million in 2 years ain't gonna win any war, especially with it being all but dead in Japan and doing mediocrally in Europe.

Of course Americans are gonna buy 70 million 360's alone and propel it to the top:roll:

Here's the difference with the PS3, I can actually see them turn things around. It's not so much people don't want their console (ala 360 in Japan) but people are just put off for a number of reasons, price, games etc, all of which can be remedied.

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#93 helium_flash
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Ugh... let's just wait for NPD and stuff. I honestly cant trust Vgcharts anymore after their horrible November predictions.

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[QUOTE="-Renegade"][QUOTE="Yellow_Rose"][QUOTE="-Renegade"]

Keep the delusions coming and btw PS3 is no gamecube. Gamecube never had FF and MGS the main series and never had Gran Turismoand major third party support like PS3 so don't even compare the two.

Yellow_Rose

That's funny. The PS2 dodn't have either one of those games when it sold 1 million its first weekend in Japan.

The gamecube took 4 months to sell a million in Japan

The PS3 took 8 months to sell a million in Japan.

PS2 shipped 10 million units at the end of 2001 now remember PS2 launched in March of 2000. PS3 has sold almost 9 million units at the end of 2007. PS2 really didn't pick up until its second year. Looks like Sony is headed for a repeat. :D

I'll give you 15 minutes to figure out for yourself how you just contradicted yourself.

....starting now. ;)

Only reason I compared shipment to sales is because the shipment numbers for 07 are not in yet.

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#95 i_like_pizza
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That "dead" console still has a higher attach rate than Wii or PS3, even in Japan. ;)

Yellow_Rose

It also came out year before, so, just for the sake of ease, you could make a point saying that the average 360 owner has had 12 more months than the average Wii or PS3 owner to acquire those games. The average gamer, in a year, will buy 3 or 4 games per console.

This point needs to be dropped because it makes absolutely no sense. This argument is as foolish as the argument that the PSP is "stealing market-share" from the DS.

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#96 Yellow_Rose
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[QUOTE="Yellow_Rose"][QUOTE="Hoobinator"]

Give it a year and the PS3 will have caught up considerably with the 360.

The 360 will never win the console race I guarantee it. 2nd best is all it can do. Being dead in Japan is like having one of your tyres being ripped off and being told to win a car race.

Hoobinator

That "dead" console still has a higher attach rate than Wii or PS3, even in Japan. ;)

I never said anything about attach rates. :| or Game sales for that matter. :|

It's all about who sells the most. That's what wins you the war in System Wars. And like I said 16 million in 2 years ain't gonna win any war, especially with it being all but dead in Japan and doing mediocrally in Europe.

Of course Americans are gonna buy 70 million 360's alone and propel it to the top:roll:

Here's the difference with the PS3, I can actually see them turn things around. It's not so much people don't want their console (ala 360 in Japan) but people are just put off for a number of reasons, price, games etc, all of which can be remedied.

But this is the same argument that was used this time last year (I'd bump upthe threads to prove it if it wouldn't get me moderated)

"Once PS3 lets Lair, Heavenly Sword, Uncharted, etc,etc" things will pick up

"Once PS3 drops to $499, it'll fly off the shelves"

Same crap, different year.

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#97 i_like_pizza
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Only reason I compared shipment to sales is because the shipment numbers for 07 are not in yet.

-Renegade

And, if that 9 million number is correct, that's much more impressive than the 9 million that the 360 sold in its first year. The 360 was $100 cheaper (on average, most likely), and it had no competition. The PS3 launched in its competition's strongest year, and it launched next to the most successful gaming hardware in history.

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#98 Yellow_Rose
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[QUOTE="Yellow_Rose"][QUOTE="-Renegade"][QUOTE="Yellow_Rose"][QUOTE="-Renegade"]

Keep the delusions coming and btw PS3 is no gamecube. Gamecube never had FF and MGS the main series and never had Gran Turismoand major third party support like PS3 so don't even compare the two.

-Renegade

That's funny. The PS2 dodn't have either one of those games when it sold 1 million its first weekend in Japan.

The gamecube took 4 months to sell a million in Japan

The PS3 took 8 months to sell a million in Japan.

PS2 shipped 10 million units at the end of 2001 now remember PS2 launched in March of 2000. PS3 has sold almost 9 million units at the end of 2007. PS2 really didn't pick up until its second year. Looks like Sony is headed for a repeat. :D

I'll give you 15 minutes to figure out for yourself how you just contradicted yourself.

....starting now. ;)

Only reason I compared shipment to sales is because the shipment numbers for 07 are not in yet.

....you now have 10 minutes.

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#99 OhSnapitz
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[QUOTE="Yellow_Rose"][QUOTE="Hoobinator"]

Give it a year and the PS3 will have caught up considerably with the 360.

The 360 will never win the console race I guarantee it. 2nd best is all it can do. Being dead in Japan is like having one of your tyres being ripped off and being told to win a car race.

Hoobinator

That "dead" console still has a higher attach rate than Wii or PS3, even in Japan. ;)

I never said anything about attach rates. :| or Game sales for that matter. :|

It's all about who sells the most. That's what wins you the war in System Wars. And like I said 16 million in 2 years ain't gonna win any war, especially with it being all but dead in Japan and doing mediocrally in Europe.

Of course Americans are gonna buy 70 million 360's alone and propel it to the top:roll:

Here's the difference with the PS3, I can actually see them turn things around. It's not so much people don't want their console (ala 360 in Japan) but people are just put off for a number of reasons, price, games etc, all of which can be remedied.

That all well and good but it's still speculation at this point... The only hard nose facts we have are current sales figures... Cows can spit that "just wait.." BS all they want but they don't know what the market will be like this year. There's no garauntee on MGS4, GT 5 ect.. Just like with 360/wii software.

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#100 i_like_pizza
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....you now have 10 minutes.

Yellow_Rose

If you're talking about the years, I'm sure that you know the PS2 wasn't a global launch. It was launched in March in Japan with very limited shipments, then launched in October in the US and November in Europe. So, what are you trying to prove?