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#101 Bromz
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Anyone else see the irony in the fact PS3 owners spent years calling the 360 a shooter box and how shooters were for the pc and how 360 was a poor mans pc...and yet now their only great game is a shooter?
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#102 RazMaTaz-1
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Anyone else see the irony in the fact PS3 owners spent years calling the 360 a shooter box and how shooters were for the pc and how 360 was a poor mans pc...and yet now their only great game is a shooter?Bromz

360 got criticised by cows because it had too many FPS shooters. The best game on Ps3 is not a FPS, its TPS. Big difference.

Anyways, my only problem with 360 is the RROD, but i give credit that ps3 finally has proven itself. Question is...when is the next AAA/AAAA game coming for ps3?

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#103 wittinator
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3. ps3 also not doing good in Japankyacat

You must have some sort of mental handicap.

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#104 jazreal
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and anyone with a BRAIN can see the large amount of SPIN in this :) most of this persons 360 statements are things that he/she would LIKE to see as being truth to have a better arguement, cause anyone that REALLY keeps up with this knows that what he/she said is untrue.

and as far as the SPIN HYPE for the ps3....games???? where???? ohh you mean.......1??? uhhhh ok....anywayz....case closed ;)

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#105 Gh0st_Of_0nyx
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I love how cows think one game getting a 10 mean the system is saved :lol:

its ONE game cow's us sheep already have amazing titles anda GOTY award. Lemmings has that aswell you cow's are acting like you just recved the 1st AAAAE title ever :roll:

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#106 Younggun135
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June is a very good month for the PS3. Let's take this moment to give credits where credits are due.

PS3 PROBLEMS:

Lack of killer exclusive...Solved. IGN gives Metal Gear Solid 4 perfect scores on all categories. Closing Comments:
Is it possible to give a game an 11? If so, this would be the game that would merit that score.

Consoles not selling well...Solved. The PS3 is now outselling the 360 in America, Europe, Japan, and Pluto. See this month's NPD numbers.

Lack of rumble...solved. The PS3 controller now has motion control and rumble.

Lack of DTS-HD Master audio...solved. The PS3 now produces the best sound in games and movies.

Negative Press...sovled. The PS3 is by far the most improved console this generation. The press is starting to give credits where credits are due. Arstechnica, a very respected tech-orieted site, gave the PS3 a 6 rating during the launch year. Now it gives the PS3 a 9. http://arstechnica.com/reviews/hardware/playstation-3-blu-ray.ars

XBOX 360 PROBLEMS:

Reliability... Not solved. It is still the most unreliable console on the market. Red Ring of Death. Noisy. Too much heat.

Lack of very powerful CPU, standard hard disk drive, and high-capacity optical disk...Not solved. This makes the 360 the least future-proof of all HD-capable consoles. At the moment, next-generation is best defined by the PS3.

LIVE fees...not sovled. Still expensive considering every gaming platform, the PC, the Mac, PS2, PS3, Wii, DS, PSP all allow free multiplayer gaming over the internet. LIVE fees make the 360 the most expensive console to own out of all consoles on the market today.

Lack of motion-sensing control...not solved. Poor 360. Unlike Wii or PS3, it has no montion control.

POOR performance in Japan and Europe...Not solved. The 360 is basically dead in Japan. We all know that. In Europe, despite a price cut earlier this year, the 360 is still struggling. In fact, it has been said that the 360 is struggling, clutching at straws. http://www.eurogamer.net/article.php?article_id=147092. Now with the PS3 outselling the 360 in May and with June's monster of a game Metal Gear Solid 4, the future of the 360 in America only looks grimmer every month.

Inability to play Blu-ray movies...not solved. This is a big deal, even if you mostly care about games. The truth is most of us also like movies. The best sights and sounds produced by the movies are found in Blu-ray. The PS3 is the only console capable of bringing out the best sights and sounds in your living or bedroom.

Let's give credits to where credits are due. The PS3 gives you the most bang for the buck (best value), the best sights and soundsn(Cell and Blu-ray), and the most peace of mind (reliability and future-proof design).

Sihanouk

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#107 jazreal
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I love how cows think one game getting a 10 mean the system is saved :lol:

its ONE game cow's us sheep already have amazing titles anda GOTY award. Lemmings has that aswell you cow's are acting like you just recved the 1st AAAAE title ever :roll:

Gh0st_Of_0nyx
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#108 hellrazor06
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I love how cows think one game getting a 10 mean the system is saved :lol:

its ONE game cow's us sheep already have amazing titles anda GOTY award. Lemmings has that aswell you cow's are acting like you just recved the 1st AAAAE title ever :roll:

Gh0st_Of_0nyx

well lems loved to run there mouth about how great the 360 is and how it has the best games yet it still has no AAAEs so far this year or an AAAAE and i dont think itl get a AAAAE, the wii on th other hand will get a AAAAE easily sometime, a AAAAE is a big deal and the ps3 is the first console this gen to get a AAAA exclusive so cows have the right to brag as would other fanboys if they got an AAAAE

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The 360 has a significantly less powerful CPU than the PS3. That's why you will never get a large-number multiplayer game with open environments and decent graphics like the PS3. How often do you hear gaming sites say this game or that game is the most technoligically advanced game ever made? It didn't happen on the 360, but on the PS3 there's Metal Gear Solid 4.

Stop trying to spread misinformation again. You are being pathetic saying the PS3 and the 360 are basically the same. They not. The PS3 is superior in optical diskspace, faster CPU, and standard hard disk drive. Let's make a bet. You will never hear respected gaming sites say any game on the 360 as the most technoligcally advanced game ever. The PS3 already has Metal Gear Solid 4, this early in its life span. Why I am so certain that the 360 can't produce such a game? Because the 360 is signficantly inferior to the PS3. Period. Face reality.

Sure, I'll give credits to where credits are due: the 360 currently has a better online system. But is it worth the extra money? To many people, if not most, it isn't. That's why the 360's install base will be last place this generation. Most gamers are smart enough to know that LIVE fees make the 360 very expensive to own. Let's not forget that the PS3 network is definitely good enough for multiplayer gaming. Games such as GTA4 actually plays better on the PS3 according to Gamepro because the PS3 uses dedicated servers. Also, PSN is constantly being improved, and soon with HOME and in-game XMB, the PS3's value as a gaming system only gets better.

Fifth point: The 360 came out 1 year earlier than the PS3, of course it's gonna have a larger install base. Remember Microsoft expecting to have a 10 million head start? Well, they never got it. It's about 6 million head start now. It's shrinking every week. The PS3 is winning the 360 in sales in every continent each week/month. For the 360, it's not a good sign. Face it. Admit it.

Mathemically, the Wii is the most popular this gen, and the 360 is doomed to be 3rd place. Most analysts have said the 360 will be dead last this generation. The PS3 might even beat the Wii when it's all over. Face it. Deal with it: The 360 will be dead last this generation.

Sihanouk

First Point:
Proof the 360 is far inferior? Althogh his link was wiki, at least he provided a source to support his point about the 360/PS3 power difference. All you did was claim he's wrong sn state the 360 was trash. So if anyones spreading misinformation, it's you. How about getting some sources to back up your points, eh? Without sources a person can say anything. Like, for example:
The PS3 has a 67% failure rate.
Obviously no ones going to take me seriously. But if I had a crediable source? Than people will listen.

Second Point:
Yes, the Wii is winning sales wise. Denying this makes you a fanboy. I tihnk it's the best console this generation.
However, in terms of sales, the 360 is barely behind the PS3 in avg. sales per year:
Average 360 sales, going by the OPs figures:
6.33 milll
Avg. PS3 sales per year:
6.35 mill

As you can see, the gap between the 360 and PS3 arn't as wide as fanboys (on either side) will have you believe. There currently neck and neck in sales, and the 360 is only winning because of it's year head start. If the PS3 and 360 launched at the same time, might the PS3 b e winning? It could be, but that would be a completely different situation. So who knows, the PS3 have blown the 360 out of the water, bur than again, they could be nearly even like they are now.
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#110 jazreal
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[QUOTE="Gh0st_Of_0nyx"]

I love how cows think one game getting a 10 mean the system is saved :lol:

its ONE game cow's us sheep already have amazing titles anda GOTY award. Lemmings has that aswell you cow's are acting like you just recved the 1st AAAAE title ever :roll:

hellrazor06

well lems loved to run there mouth about how great the 360 is and how it has the best games yet it still has no AAAEs so far this year or an AAAAE and i dont think itl get a AAAAE, the wii on th other hand will get a AAAAE easily sometime, a AAAAE is a big deal and the ps3 is the first console this gen to get a AAAA exclusive so cows have the right to brag as would other fanboys if they got an AAAAE

uhhhh what are you talking about....MGS4 is only Timed exclusive...doesnt count....next ;P
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#111 -Karmum-
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[QUOTE="hellrazor06"][QUOTE="Gh0st_Of_0nyx"]

I love how cows think one game getting a 10 mean the system is saved :lol:

its ONE game cow's us sheep already have amazing titles anda GOTY award. Lemmings has that aswell you cow's are acting like you just recved the 1st AAAAE title ever :roll:

jazreal

well lems loved to run there mouth about how great the 360 is and how it has the best games yet it still has no AAAEs so far this year or an AAAAE and i dont think itl get a AAAAE, the wii on th other hand will get a AAAAE easily sometime, a AAAAE is a big deal and the ps3 is the first console this gen to get a AAAA exclusive so cows have the right to brag as would other fanboys if they got an AAAAE

uhhhh what are you talking about....MGS4 is only Timed exclusive...doesnt count....next ;P

Really? Link to it being ported to the 360? :lol:

No link, no credibility. Making yourself look like more of a fool.

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#112 BuryMe
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what about the ps3's problem of mandatory installs? That's worse than ever.
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#113 jazreal
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[QUOTE="jazreal"][QUOTE="hellrazor06"][QUOTE="Gh0st_Of_0nyx"]

I love how cows think one game getting a 10 mean the system is saved :lol:

its ONE game cow's us sheep already have amazing titles anda GOTY award. Lemmings has that aswell you cow's are acting like you just recved the 1st AAAAE title ever :roll:

-Karmum-

well lems loved to run there mouth about how great the 360 is and how it has the best games yet it still has no AAAEs so far this year or an AAAAE and i dont think itl get a AAAAE, the wii on th other hand will get a AAAAE easily sometime, a AAAAE is a big deal and the ps3 is the first console this gen to get a AAAA exclusive so cows have the right to brag as would other fanboys if they got an AAAAE

uhhhh what are you talking about....MGS4 is only Timed exclusive...doesnt count....next ;P

Really? Link to it being ported to the 360? :lol:

No link, no credibility. Making yourself look like more of a fool.

oh come on...thats sooo convienient for you to say "linkydinky please" lololol ok History+rumours+comon sense+duhhhrrrrrr+poor sony sales+come on now, we all know its inevitable :) peace
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#114 -Karmum-
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[QUOTE="-Karmum-"][QUOTE="jazreal"][QUOTE="hellrazor06"][QUOTE="Gh0st_Of_0nyx"]

I love how cows think one game getting a 10 mean the system is saved :lol:

its ONE game cow's us sheep already have amazing titles anda GOTY award. Lemmings has that aswell you cow's are acting like you just recved the 1st AAAAE title ever :roll:

jazreal

well lems loved to run there mouth about how great the 360 is and how it has the best games yet it still has no AAAEs so far this year or an AAAAE and i dont think itl get a AAAAE, the wii on th other hand will get a AAAAE easily sometime, a AAAAE is a big deal and the ps3 is the first console this gen to get a AAAA exclusive so cows have the right to brag as would other fanboys if they got an AAAAE

uhhhh what are you talking about....MGS4 is only Timed exclusive...doesnt count....next ;P

Really? Link to it being ported to the 360? :lol:

No link, no credibility. Making yourself look like more of a fool.

oh come on...thats sooo convienient for you to say "linkydinky please" lololol ok History+rumours+comon sense+duhhhrrrrrr+poor sony sales+come on now, we all know its inevitable :) peace

No link, no credibility. Common sense? Rumors that were denied? Poor Sony sales that are managing to do better than Microsoft sales? Give me a break.

/argument over

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#115 shadow8585
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The X360 was worth my money and I have never enjoyed a console more, the PS3 is the exact opposite IMO
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#116 MikeE21286
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After this month I don't think I can any longer recommend any console over PS3.

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#117 Liquid-Prince
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[QUOTE="SpruceCaboose"]Lets give credit where it is due: I use the 360 more than either my PS3 or my Wii. Ain't preferences fun?Maraos

Why are cows acting as if though one game (MGS4) makes up for the rest of their terrible line up of games?



Why are Lemming's still supporting the 360 when it has only 1 good game. Gears...
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#118 xkojimax
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since when were XBL fees a "problem" ?
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#119 Hammerdinz
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IGN is one website when did we start using that?

ParadiddleFill
When you fanboys used it against us with haze.
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#120 Hammerdinz
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what about the ps3's problem of mandatory installs? That's worse than ever.BuryMe
Does that make the PC suck? Mandatory installs suck on the ps3? Why do I not hear of any PC gamer complain about installs..
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#121 Dahaka-UK
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You forgot to add a "s" on the end of exclusive because yes, PS3 still is lacking in killer exclusives. 1 game isnt good enough.
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#122 Liquid-Prince
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Anyone else see the irony in the fact PS3 owners spent years calling the 360 a shooter box and how shooters were for the pc and how 360 was a poor mans pc...and yet now their only great game is a shooter?Bromz


MGS4 isn't a shooter... Just because I game has guns in it doesn't make it a shooter. DMC4 isn't a shooter.... MGS4 is a stealth action game. Also how can you talk about it being our only one good game when the only good game on 360 is gears?
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[QUOTE="Sihanouk"]

The 360 has a significantly less powerful CPU than the PS3. That's why you will never get a large-number multiplayer game with open environments and decent graphics like the PS3. How often do you hear gaming sites say this game or that game is the most technoligically advanced game ever made? It didn't happen on the 360, but on the PS3 there's Metal Gear Solid 4.

Stop trying to spread misinformation again. You are being pathetic saying the PS3 and the 360 are basically the same. They not. The PS3 is superior in optical diskspace, faster CPU, and standard hard disk drive. Let's make a bet. You will never hear respected gaming sites say any game on the 360 as the most technoligcally advanced game ever. The PS3 already has Metal Gear Solid 4, this early in its life span. Why I am so certain that the 360 can't produce such a game? Because the 360 is signficantly inferior to the PS3. Period. Face reality.

Sure, I'll give credits to where credits are due: the 360 currently has a better online system. But is it worth the extra money? To many people, if not most, it isn't. That's why the 360's install base will be last place this generation. Most gamers are smart enough to know that LIVE fees make the 360 very expensive to own. Let's not forget that the PS3 network is definitely good enough for multiplayer gaming. Games such as GTA4 actually plays better on the PS3 according to Gamepro because the PS3 uses dedicated servers. Also, PSN is constantly being improved, and soon with HOME and in-game XMB, the PS3's value as a gaming system only gets better.

Fifth point: The 360 came out 1 year earlier than the PS3, of course it's gonna have a larger install base. Remember Microsoft expecting to have a 10 million head start? Well, they never got it. It's about 6 million head start now. It's shrinking every week. The PS3 is winning the 360 in sales in every continent each week/month. For the 360, it's not a good sign. Face it. Admit it.

Mathemically, the Wii is the most popular this gen, and the 360 is doomed to be 3rd place. Most analysts have said the 360 will be dead last this generation. The PS3 might even beat the Wii when it's all over. Face it. Deal with it: The 360 will be dead last this generation.

darkslider99


First Point:
Proof the 360 is far inferior? Althogh his link was wiki, at least he provided a source to support his point about the 360/PS3 power difference. All you did was claim he's wrong sn state the 360 was trash. So if anyones spreading misinformation, it's you. How about getting some sources to back up your points, eh? Without sources a person can say anything. Like, for example:
The PS3 has a 67% failure rate.
Obviously no ones going to take me seriously. But if I had a crediable source? Than people will listen.

Second Point:
Yes, the Wii is winning sales wise. Denying this makes you a fanboy. I tihnk it's the best console this generation.
However, in terms of sales, the 360 is barely behind the PS3 in avg. sales per year:
Average 360 sales, going by the OPs figures:
6.33 milll
Avg. PS3 sales per year:
6.35 mill

As you can see, the gap between the 360 and PS3 arn't as wide as fanboys (on either side) will have you believe. There currently neck and neck in sales, and the 360 is only winning because of it's year head start. If the PS3 and 360 launched at the same time, might the PS3 b e winning? It could be, but that would be a completely different situation. So who knows, the PS3 have blown the 360 out of the water, bur than again, they could be nearly even like they are now.

That's what I call an intelligent post. :)

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#124 blackace
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June is a very good month for the PS3. Let's take this moment to give credits where credits are due.

XBOX 360 PROBLEMS:

Reliability... Not solved. It is still the most unreliable console on the market. Red Ring of Death. Noisy. Too much heat.

Lack of very powerful CPU, standard hard disk drive, and high-capacity optical disk...Not solved. This makes the 360 the least future-proof of all HD-capable consoles. At the moment, next-generation is best defined by the PS3.

LIVE fees...not sovled. Still expensive considering every gaming platform, the PC, the Mac, PS2, PS3, Wii, DS, PSP all allow free multiplayer gaming over the internet. LIVE fees make the 360 the most expensive console to own out of all consoles on the market today.

Lack of motion-sensing control...not solved. Poor 360. Unlike Wii or PS3, it has no montion control.

POOR performance in Japan and Europe...Not solved. The 360 is basically dead in Japan. We all know that. In Europe, despite a price cut earlier this year, the 360 is still struggling. In fact, it has been said that the 360 is struggling, clutching at straws. http://%20year%20ahead%20a/. Now with the PS3 outselling the 360 in May and with June's monster of a game Metal Gear Solid 4, the future of the 360 in America only looks grimmer every month.

Inability to play Blu-ray movies...not solved. This is a big deal, even if you mostly care about games. The truth is most of us also like movies. The best sights and sounds produced by the movies are found in Blu-ray. The PS3 is the only console capable of bringing out the best sights and sounds in your living or bedroom.

Let's give credits to where credits are due. The PS3 gives you the most bang for the buck (best value), the best sights and soundsn(Cell and Blu-ray), and the most peace of mind (reliability and future-proof design).

Sihanouk

All the XBox problems are even problems.

XBox 360 Reliability: M$ has already worked on eliminated the RROD issue. They already changed the CPU chip to a cooler chip and added a cooper heat sink. The new Jasper coming in Sept with use a cooler GPU which should get rid of the RROD forever. Please do some research next time.

Lack of very powerful CPU, standard hard disk drive, and high-capacity optical disk...Not solved: What problem with the CPU are you talking about? They added a cooler CPU to the system and XBox 360 has less lag and load times then the PS3, even with the PS3 more powerful CELL CPU. :lol: :roll: The PS3 has a standard HDD as well. :roll: Gears of War 1 & 2 look better then most PS3 games and it's on ONE DVD. Where's the problem? :lol: You're embarrasing yourself. No problem to solve.

Lack of motion-sensing control...not solved: The PS3 has one, but most developers don't even bother with it. It's a waste of technology on the PS3. The Wii uses it great. The XBox 360 doesn't need it, but M$ is actually working on a motion sensor controller as I type this. You FAIL.. AGAIN!!. :lol:

POOR performance in Japan and Europe...Not solved. Well in Japan, yes. Still the XBox 360 is on it's way to sell more units then the original XBox, so I wouldn't call that a complete faliure. The XBox 360 isn't failing in Europe at all. It's still selling almost as many units as the PS3. Sure the performance could be better, but we all know that most U.S. game consoles do not do well in Europe or Japan. Please name be an AMERICAN MADE game consoles that has done better then any of Sony or Nintendo's game consoles in Europe and Japan. Yeah..... I'm waiting. :lol: So there's no real surprise there. :P

Inability to play Blu-ray movies...not solved. That's actually a good thing. The system was created to PLAY GAMES, not MOVIES. The only real reason to have Blu-Ray in a game console is for the storage capacity. Most like M$ will add it in their next console. The real difference is the NEW Blu-Ray Player will probably be 2-3x's faster then the one in the PS3, so load times on the new XBox will be much fast then the PS3 and it will be "future proof" as you say. Right now Blu-Ray isn't really needed. For the next-gen, it will or something similar to it. So this isn't really a problem either. :P

More bang for the buck. Last I checked the XBox 360 was $279, had more quality games to play and upscaled all DVD's to 1080p on my T.V. That's a better deal then the $400 PS3 with no PS1/PS2 B/C and no DualShock or HDMI cable.

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#125 blackace
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[QUOTE="naruto7777"]ps3 is over priccedepic_pets

Not really, more like under priced

It's overpriced for most middle class and lower class citizens. That's why it didn't sell that well for the 1st year. It's still overpriced a bit. Once it gets down to $300 it'll sell very well. I would never pay $500 or $600 for a PS3, and I didn't. I got my 60GB PS3 for less then $350. Price drops will be coming before the end of the year.

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#126 Iceman2911
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[QUOTE="darkslider99"][QUOTE="Sihanouk"]

The 360 has a significantly less powerful CPU than the PS3. That's why you will never get a large-number multiplayer game with open environments and decent graphics like the PS3. How often do you hear gaming sites say this game or that game is the most technoligically advanced game ever made? It didn't happen on the 360, but on the PS3 there's Metal Gear Solid 4.

Stop trying to spread misinformation again. You are being pathetic saying the PS3 and the 360 are basically the same. They not. The PS3 is superior in optical diskspace, faster CPU, and standard hard disk drive. Let's make a bet. You will never hear respected gaming sites say any game on the 360 as the most technoligcally advanced game ever. The PS3 already has Metal Gear Solid 4, this early in its life span. Why I am so certain that the 360 can't produce such a game? Because the 360 is signficantly inferior to the PS3. Period. Face reality.

Sure, I'll give credits to where credits are due: the 360 currently has a better online system. But is it worth the extra money? To many people, if not most, it isn't. That's why the 360's install base will be last place this generation. Most gamers are smart enough to know that LIVE fees make the 360 very expensive to own. Let's not forget that the PS3 network is definitely good enough for multiplayer gaming. Games such as GTA4 actually plays better on the PS3 according to Gamepro because the PS3 uses dedicated servers. Also, PSN is constantly being improved, and soon with HOME and in-game XMB, the PS3's value as a gaming system only gets better.

Fifth point: The 360 came out 1 year earlier than the PS3, of course it's gonna have a larger install base. Remember Microsoft expecting to have a 10 million head start? Well, they never got it. It's about 6 million head start now. It's shrinking every week. The PS3 is winning the 360 in sales in every continent each week/month. For the 360, it's not a good sign. Face it. Admit it.

Mathemically, the Wii is the most popular this gen, and the 360 is doomed to be 3rd place. Most analysts have said the 360 will be dead last this generation. The PS3 might even beat the Wii when it's all over. Face it. Deal with it: The 360 will be dead last this generation.

IronBass


First Point:
Proof the 360 is far inferior? Althogh his link was wiki, at least he provided a source to support his point about the 360/PS3 power difference. All you did was claim he's wrong sn state the 360 was trash. So if anyones spreading misinformation, it's you. How about getting some sources to back up your points, eh? Without sources a person can say anything. Like, for example:
The PS3 has a 67% failure rate.
Obviously no ones going to take me seriously. But if I had a crediable source? Than people will listen.

Second Point:
Yes, the Wii is winning sales wise. Denying this makes you a fanboy. I tihnk it's the best console this generation.
However, in terms of sales, the 360 is barely behind the PS3 in avg. sales per year:
Average 360 sales, going by the OPs figures:
6.33 milll
Avg. PS3 sales per year:
6.35 mill

As you can see, the gap between the 360 and PS3 arn't as wide as fanboys (on either side) will have you believe. There currently neck and neck in sales, and the 360 is only winning because of it's year head start. If the PS3 and 360 launched at the same time, might the PS3 b e winning? It could be, but that would be a completely different situation. So who knows, the PS3 have blown the 360 out of the water, bur than again, they could be nearly even like they are now.

That's what I call an intelligent post. :)

I second that

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#127 Iceman2911
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[QUOTE="naruto7777"]ps3 is over priccedblackace

Not really, more like under priced

It's overpriced for most middle class and lower class citizens. That's why it didn't sell that well for the 1st year. It's still overpriced a bit. Once it gets down to $300 it'll sell very well. I would never pay $500 or $600 for a PS3, and I didn't. I got my 60GB PS3 for less then $350. Price drops will be coming before the end of the year.

I am a middleclass citizen and I bought my ps3 for 500. Besides the ps3 now cost 400

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:lol: is this post a joke? please tell me it is
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#129 Iceman2911
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June is a very good month for the PS3. Let's take this moment to give credits where credits are due.

XBOX 360 PROBLEMS:

Reliability... Not solved. It is still the most unreliable console on the market. Red Ring of Death. Noisy. Too much heat.

Lack of very powerful CPU, standard hard disk drive, and high-capacity optical disk...Not solved. This makes the 360 the least future-proof of all HD-capable consoles. At the moment, next-generation is best defined by the PS3.

LIVE fees...not sovled. Still expensive considering every gaming platform, the PC, the Mac, PS2, PS3, Wii, DS, PSP all allow free multiplayer gaming over the internet. LIVE fees make the 360 the most expensive console to own out of all consoles on the market today.

Lack of motion-sensing control...not solved. Poor 360. Unlike Wii or PS3, it has no montion control.

POOR performance in Japan and Europe...Not solved. The 360 is basically dead in Japan. We all know that. In Europe, despite a price cut earlier this year, the 360 is still struggling. In fact, it has been said that the 360 is struggling, clutching at straws. http://%20year%20ahead%20a/. Now with the PS3 outselling the 360 in May and with June's monster of a game Metal Gear Solid 4, the future of the 360 in America only looks grimmer every month.

Inability to play Blu-ray movies...not solved. This is a big deal, even if you mostly care about games. The truth is most of us also like movies. The best sights and sounds produced by the movies are found in Blu-ray. The PS3 is the only console capable of bringing out the best sights and sounds in your living or bedroom.

Let's give credits to where credits are due. The PS3 gives you the most bang for the buck (best value), the best sights and soundsn(Cell and Blu-ray), and the most peace of mind (reliability and future-proof design).

blackace

All the XBox problems are even problems.

XBox 360 Reliability: M$ has already worked on eliminated the RROD issue. They already changed the CPU chip to a cooler chip and added a cooper heat sink. The new Jasper coming in Sept with use a cooler GPU which should get rid of the RROD forever. Please do some research next time.

Lack of very powerful CPU, standard hard disk drive, and high-capacity optical disk...Not solved: What problem with the CPU are you talking about? They added a cooler CPU to the system and XBox 360 has less lag and load times then the PS3, even with the PS3 more powerful CELL CPU. :lol: :roll: The PS3 has a standard HDD as well. :roll: Gears of War 1 & 2 look better then most PS3 games and it's on ONE DVD. Where's the problem? :lol: You're embarrasing yourself. No problem to solve.

Lack of motion-sensing control...not solved: The PS3 has one, but most developers don't even bother with it. It's a waste of technology on the PS3. The Wii uses it great. The XBox 360 doesn't need it, but M$ is actually working on a motion sensor controller as I type this. You FAIL.. AGAIN!!. :lol:

POOR performance in Japan and Europe...Not solved. Well in Japan, yes. Still the XBox 360 is on it's way to sell more units then the original XBox, so I wouldn't call that a complete faliure. The XBox 360 isn't failing in Europe at all. It's still selling almost as many units as the PS3. Sure the performance could be better, but we all know that most U.S. game consoles do not do well in Europe or Japan. Please name be an AMERICAN MADE game consoles that has done better then any of Sony or Nintendo's game consoles in Europe and Japan. Yeah..... I'm waiting. :lol: So there's no real surprise there. :P

Inability to play Blu-ray movies...not solved. That's actually a good thing. The system was created to PLAY GAMES, not MOVIES. The only real reason to have Blu-Ray in a game console is for the storage capacity. Most like M$ will add it in their next console. The real difference is the NEW Blu-Ray Player will probably be 2-3x's faster then the one in the PS3, so load times on the new XBox will be much fast then the PS3 and it will be "future proof" as you say. Right now Blu-Ray isn't really needed. For the next-gen, it will or something similar to it. So this isn't really a problem either. :P

More bang for the buck. Last I checked the XBox 360 was $279, had more quality games to play and upscaled all DVD's to 1080p on my T.V. That's a better deal then the $400 PS3 with no PS1/PS2 B/C and no DualShock or HDMI cable.

The $279 is not more bang for a buck.No hd cables,no harddrive required for xboxlive,no wi-fi or enthernet, no charge kit, and is wired .Most games can't even go up to 1080 on a hdtv.The ps3 has most of those things out of the box.I would tell you how much your wrong about the rest of your post but, I don't feel like writing more.

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I love how cows think one game getting a 10 mean the system is saved :lol:

its ONE game cow's us sheep already have amazing titles anda GOTY award. Lemmings has that aswell you cow's are acting like you just recved the 1st AAAAE title ever :roll:

Gh0st_Of_0nyx

Where is your AAAAE? :lol:

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Who cares?

I finished MGS4, it was def. great. but theres nothing right now to make me turn on my ps3 until september. or when LOTR comes out on blu ray :)

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#132 demonik_360
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[QUOTE="IronBass"][QUOTE="darkslider99"][QUOTE="Sihanouk"]

The 360 has a significantly less powerful CPU than the PS3. That's why you will never get a large-number multiplayer game with open environments and decent graphics like the PS3. How often do you hear gaming sites say this game or that game is the most technoligically advanced game ever made? It didn't happen on the 360, but on the PS3 there's Metal Gear Solid 4.

Stop trying to spread misinformation again. You are being pathetic saying the PS3 and the 360 are basically the same. They not. The PS3 is superior in optical diskspace, faster CPU, and standard hard disk drive. Let's make a bet. You will never hear respected gaming sites say any game on the 360 as the most technoligcally advanced game ever. The PS3 already has Metal Gear Solid 4, this early in its life span. Why I am so certain that the 360 can't produce such a game? Because the 360 is signficantly inferior to the PS3. Period. Face reality.

Sure, I'll give credits to where credits are due: the 360 currently has a better online system. But is it worth the extra money? To many people, if not most, it isn't. That's why the 360's install base will be last place this generation. Most gamers are smart enough to know that LIVE fees make the 360 very expensive to own. Let's not forget that the PS3 network is definitely good enough for multiplayer gaming. Games such as GTA4 actually plays better on the PS3 according to Gamepro because the PS3 uses dedicated servers. Also, PSN is constantly being improved, and soon with HOME and in-game XMB, the PS3's value as a gaming system only gets better.

Fifth point: The 360 came out 1 year earlier than the PS3, of course it's gonna have a larger install base. Remember Microsoft expecting to have a 10 million head start? Well, they never got it. It's about 6 million head start now. It's shrinking every week. The PS3 is winning the 360 in sales in every continent each week/month. For the 360, it's not a good sign. Face it. Admit it.

Mathemically, the Wii is the most popular this gen, and the 360 is doomed to be 3rd place. Most analysts have said the 360 will be dead last this generation. The PS3 might even beat the Wii when it's all over. Face it. Deal with it: The 360 will be dead last this generation.

Iceman2911


First Point:
Proof the 360 is far inferior? Althogh his link was wiki, at least he provided a source to support his point about the 360/PS3 power difference. All you did was claim he's wrong sn state the 360 was trash. So if anyones spreading misinformation, it's you. How about getting some sources to back up your points, eh? Without sources a person can say anything. Like, for example:
The PS3 has a 67% failure rate.
Obviously no ones going to take me seriously. But if I had a crediable source? Than people will listen.

Second Point:
Yes, the Wii is winning sales wise. Denying this makes you a fanboy. I tihnk it's the best console this generation.
However, in terms of sales, the 360 is barely behind the PS3 in avg. sales per year:
Average 360 sales, going by the OPs figures:
6.33 milll
Avg. PS3 sales per year:
6.35 mill

As you can see, the gap between the 360 and PS3 arn't as wide as fanboys (on either side) will have you believe. There currently neck and neck in sales, and the 360 is only winning because of it's year head start. If the PS3 and 360 launched at the same time, might the PS3 b e winning? It could be, but that would be a completely different situation. So who knows, the PS3 have blown the 360 out of the water, bur than again, they could be nearly even like they are now.

That's what I call an intelligent post. :)

I second that

I'll third that.