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#1 REAL35
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. What game do you have at E3 this year?
I'm working with two games at E3 this year: SOCOM: U.S. Navy SEALs Confrontation for PLAYSTATION 3, and SOCOM: U.S. Navy SEALs Tactical Strike for PSP. For the purpose of answering these questions, I'll focus mostly on our PS3 version of SOCOM.

2. What did you do on this game that you couldn't do on another platform?
SOCOM: U.S. Navy SEALs Confrontation makes full use of the HDD in the PlayStation 3. One of the often overlooked advantages of the PS3 compared to competing platforms is that it contains a 2.5" serial ATA hard drive which allows us to use the Hard Disc Drive for extremely fast data access. Since we can count on the hard drive to be in every PS3 console, SOCOM Confrontation uses a very aggressive data streaming system which in turn allows for much greater detail in the game environments. For this reason alone, the level of detail which you will see in the environments and characters in SOCOM Confrontation is not possible on any other game console.

Take a quick look at the screenshots below for an early look at what we are able to achieve using the hard drive in the PS3. This is still pre-alpha and the quality will continue to improve as we get further into development.

3. What do you think is the coolest aspect of this game?
The environments are the real star in SOCOM: U.S. Navy SEALs Confrontation. We are focusing a lot of effort on creating intricate and highly detailed urban environments. The amount of detail in the environment will help you to easily distinguish where you are in the level and the intricacy means that you are going to discover new areas and snipe points long after you thought you had the environment memorized.

The characters are also looking really good.

At the top of the post is an in-game screenshot of our Heavy Commando model. The skin shaders, cloth shaders, normal maps, and highly detailed textures allow us to have extremely realistic characters in the game. Again, this is a work in progress.

4. If you could sit one person in front of your game for an hour, who would it be?
N'Gai Croal. He's been a long time player of the SOCOM franchise and I would really like to discuss what he thinks about this game. It doesn't hurt that he is also one of the best journalists writing about video games and also writes for Newsweek.

5. What game do you most want an hour to sit in front of yourself (besides your own)?
Metal Gear Solid 4. I'm very curious how the game plays compared to the videos that have been shown

http://blog.us.playstation.com/?author=1911

http://kotaku.com/gaming/boast-post/ps3-socom-not-possible-on-any-other-console-274932.php

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#2 asdasd
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PS3 is the only console with a harddrive in every single console, so I guess this is true since this is a downloadable game.

edit: This game looks really hot for a PSN title.

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#3 Unforgiven2870
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Intresting stuff.
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#4 Mfals
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Honestly it looks pretty good. nice M4A1 Carbine.

Can't wait for the Real Socom 4 though.

Got some very nice details in the shoulder pads. Ace:)

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#5 leejohnson7
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Very Interesting, it could be 9. material but I'm not a fan of hyping unless it's a dead certainty that it will get that score, but as long as Socom delivers it could set a standard on the ps3, which is why I believe that score is highly acheivable (because no other games really have up to now).
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#6 H3llstrike
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I love Socom but I hate when devs say it couldn't be done on the 360. I do agree with the point with the hdd but Socom devs always over promise and under deliver for Socom. I hope this title will live up to the greatness that was once Socom.
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#7 skyvader
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Do these devs take marketing classes or what? The first part was basically restating the obvious that the ps3 comes with the hdd. With that in mind, this game can be done on the 360 because of...guess what...it too has a hdd. So f***ing what that it doesnt come in every box. It does come in every "premium" and "elite" box though. These guys are part of sony so (again with the obvious) they will say their sony backed game can't be done on any other platform. Sheesh!
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#8 Mfals
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Do these devs take marketing classes or what? The first part was basically restating the obvious that the ps3 comes with the hdd. With that in mind, this game can be done on the 360 because of...guess what...it too has a hdd. So f***ing what that it doesnt come in every box. It does come in every "premium" and "elite" box though. These guys are part of sony so (again with the obvious) they will say their sony backed game can't be done on any other platform. Sheesh!skyvader

It's all just PR bs in the end.

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and where have i heard that before??

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#10 killab2oo5
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Any screenshots?Judging from the one I saw posted earlier,Rainbow 6 looks better.But,ive only seen one screenshot:D. I doubt if this could only be done on PS3,just like I doubt if Gears of War could only be done on 360.
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Any screenshots?Judging from the one I saw posted earlier,Rainbow 6 looks better.But,ive only seen one screenshot:D. I doubt if this could only be done on PS3,just like I doubt if Gears of War could only be done on 360.killab2oo5

Rainbow Six better look better. This is only a PSN game. It will probably get a blu-ray collectors edition like warhawk though.

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Do these devs take marketing classes or what? The first part was basically restating the obvious that the ps3 comes with the hdd. With that in mind, this game can be done on the 360 because of...guess what...it too has a hdd. So f***ing what that it doesnt come in every box. It does come in every "premium" and "elite" box though. These guys are part of sony so (again with the obvious) they will say their sony backed game can't be done on any other platform. Sheesh!skyvader

MS would piss off lots of people if they allowed a game to be made on their system that left a group of people out. what if they updated the 360 with a new model, runs games on HD-DVD rather than DVD. then they make great games on it, and leave everyone without one out? would that make people happy? hell no

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Do these devs take marketing classes or what? The first part was basically restating the obvious that the ps3 comes with the hdd. With that in mind, this game can be done on the 360 because of...guess what...it too has a hdd. So f***ing what that it doesnt come in every box. It does come in every "premium" and "elite" box though. These guys are part of sony so (again with the obvious) they will say their sony backed game can't be done on any other platform. Sheesh!skyvader

Like MS would care but here goes anyway.

Imagine some parent buys a 360 core and a game that requires a HDD. You know the rest.

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SOCOM 2 ONLINE > BEST GAME EVER

Ill go out and buy a ps3 when socom comes out......

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I've always like that series, but its obvious in the article, that 360's with a HD could easily play this game.
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[QUOTE="killab2oo5"]Any screenshots?Judging from the one I saw posted earlier,Rainbow 6 looks better.But,ive only seen one screenshot:D. I doubt if this could only be done on PS3,just like I doubt if Gears of War could only be done on 360.asdasd

Rainbow Six better look better. This is only a PSN game. It will probably get a blu-ray collectors edition like warhawk though.

rainbow six looks better?? Rainbow six has awful graphics compared to most 360 games....are you kidding me?? I just got finsished playing the damn game 5 seconds ago, its probably the best online game for 360, but i comes nowhere close to having better graphics than socom....and most 360 games for that matter..

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[QUOTE="skyvader"]Do these devs take marketing classes or what? The first part was basically restating the obvious that the ps3 comes with the hdd. With that in mind, this game can be done on the 360 because of...guess what...it too has a hdd. So f***ing what that it doesnt come in every box. It does come in every "premium" and "elite" box though. These guys are part of sony so (again with the obvious) they will say their sony backed game can't be done on any other platform. Sheesh!leejohnson7

Like MS would care but here goes anyway.

Imagine some parent buys a 360 core and a game that requires a HDD. You know the rest.

That is why I have a feeling the core will be no more. Ms will prolly say the new price the the 20gb premium will be $299 and the elite will take the $399 honors. So in the end, ALL 360's will have hdd's.

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#18 _MURS_
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can somebody please explain the "It eats money/It prints money" thing???? Is it supposed to be funny?
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[QUOTE="leejohnson7"]

[QUOTE="skyvader"]Do these devs take marketing classes or what? The first part was basically restating the obvious that the ps3 comes with the hdd. With that in mind, this game can be done on the 360 because of...guess what...it too has a hdd. So f***ing what that it doesnt come in every box. It does come in every "premium" and "elite" box though. These guys are part of sony so (again with the obvious) they will say their sony backed game can't be done on any other platform. Sheesh!skyvader

Like MS would care but here goes anyway.

Imagine some parent buys a 360 core and a game that requires a HDD. You know the rest.

That is why I have a feeling the core will be no more. Ms will prolly say the new price the the 20gb premium will be $299 and the elite will take the $399 honors. So in the end, ALL 360's will have hdd's.

and they just say "screw you" to anyone who bought a core system? i doubt it. course it is MS, they are a group of people who love to screw consumers

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[QUOTE="leejohnson7"]

[QUOTE="skyvader"]Do these devs take marketing classes or what? The first part was basically restating the obvious that the ps3 comes with the hdd. With that in mind, this game can be done on the 360 because of...guess what...it too has a hdd. So f***ing what that it doesnt come in every box. It does come in every "premium" and "elite" box though. These guys are part of sony so (again with the obvious) they will say their sony backed game can't be done on any other platform. Sheesh!skyvader

Like MS would care but here goes anyway.

Imagine some parent buys a 360 core and a game that requires a HDD. You know the rest.

That is why I have a feeling the core will be no more. Ms will prolly say the new price the the 20gb premium will be $299 and the elite will take the $399 honors. So in the end, ALL 360's will have hdd's.

And what about the suckers.... *cough* sorry 'early adapters' of the core? I sure as hell wouldn't want to buy a HDD, as that contradicts MS freedom of choice strategy.

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Thats like saying Halo 3 is only possible on the 360 because of the DVD drive. Of course you can't throw a PS3 game into a Wii or 360, they allhave completetly different designs.But these marketing teams need to shut up because they aren't fooling anyone. Besides, there are better looking games on the 360 (GRAW 2, GeoW and R6:V) so I don't know why the developers are pushing the "can't be done on ______" angle.
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Thats like saying Halo 3 is only possible on the 360 because of the DVD drive. Of course you can't throw a PS3 game into a Wii or 360, they allhave completetly different designs.But these marketing teams need to shut up because they aren't fooling anyone. Besides, there are better looking games on the 360 (GRAW 2, GeoW and R6:V) so I don't know why the developers are pushing the "can't be done on ______" angle.PBSnipes

No thats different. You should read the article again, its not that the ps3 has a hard drive that makes it only possible on the ps3, its the way in which it utilises it, because to my knowledge only arcade games and addons get saved to the 360s HDD.

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Socom is one of my main game library although I didn't get into this game until last year but once I played one version I had to have all of them including the Bravo versions which now I can say I own now. The next step with me is to find some mature gamers on the net that likes to play usually late at night. I may have to be looking out for the next Socom coming out on the PS3 and PSP.

I think that Sony is now a big partener of Zipper and Slant Six in developing this game.

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^^

Zipper ruined socom with socom 3....they shouldnt even call it socom, its like a completely different game..last good socom game was socom 2...and thats the best game ever..

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they are touting that piece of **** as only possible on PS3? sometimes sony needs to be corrected.
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#26 JiveT
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ZOMG the huge suprise was no mention of teh Cell! What if they use Cell + hard drive!!?! Twice less chance 360 could handle it!
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#27 deactivated-61ff675e61178
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Have any of you been reading the comments under the Kotaku article? They have a bunch of xbots saying the game will come to XBL with an "HDD Owners Only" tag next to it, or that they'd love it to come tothe 360because "it's great when Sony loses exclusives". Do they not realize it's made by Sony?
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SOCOM's sucked since the second installment, in my opinion.
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PS3 got me to raise an eyebrow of interest these days ...unfortunately I still have to play a lot of 360 games that I missed out on.
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[QUOTE="killab2oo5"]Any screenshots?Judging from the one I saw posted earlier,Rainbow 6 looks better.But,ive only seen one screenshot:D. I doubt if this could only be done on PS3,just like I doubt if Gears of War could only be done on 360.asdasd

Rainbow Six better look better. This is only a PSN game. It will probably get a blu-ray collectors edition like warhawk though.

I c,it does look good for a downloadable game,very good.
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i bet its jack trenton mouthin off again like always.........
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#32 astiop
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Are there any devs making ps3 exclusive game so far that haven't said "this can only be done on the ps3"?
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here we go again! untill this game gets released i won't believe all the "it can't be done on any other console" crap... Insomniac said it about RFOM and was proven wrong
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Who cares what this game looks like? Unless they go back to the gameplay of Socom 1/2, this game will be trash.
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[QUOTE="PBSnipes"]Thats like saying Halo 3 is only possible on the 360 because of the DVD drive. Of course you can't throw a PS3 game into a Wii or 360, they allhave completetly different designs.But these marketing teams need to shut up because they aren't fooling anyone. Besides, there are better looking games on the 360 (GRAW 2, GeoW and R6:V) so I don't know why the developers are pushing the "can't be done on ______" angle.leejohnson7

No thats different. You should read the article again, its not that the ps3 has a hard drive that makes it only possible on the ps3, its the way in which it utilises it, because to my knowledge only arcade games and addons get saved to the 360s HDD.

I know that, but other than load times the HDD does zero for the game, so any half decent developer should be able to work around it, like with the PS2 and Xbox last gen. Thats my point with the DVD drive, technically a PS3 couldn't play a 360 game because 360 games are designed to run in a faster drive than the PS3s (at least thats my understanding) so even though yes, the game is only possible on the 360 any half decent developer could work around that.
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GRAW looks better than that.
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Hah, smart by saying he'd pick N'Gai.
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Everytime I hear news about the consoles, it makes me want to get a new PC much sooner, because it's getting kind of old hearing about stuff that PCs had considered normal way before now.
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I've always like that series, but its obvious in the article, that 360's with a HD could easily play this game.Heil68

This is true. Unfortunately, MS was smoking something stronger than tobacco when they decided to not standardize the HDD. I mean... for christ's sake, they already had it in the original Xboxes, and devs appreciated it! So in light of this they're going to screw devs over by releasing a core system?!

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#40 solidte
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I would understand why you cannot do a simple port to the X360 since both consoles have very diffrent structures but a good time with the X360 dev kit and some optimisation should make it very possible.
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#41 Snugenz
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PS3 is the only console with a harddrive in every single console, so I guess this is true since this is a downloadable game.

edit: This game looks really hot for a PSN title.

asdasd

The thing is there's been a few 360 games that require a HDD, so if a developer wanted to use this process, the option is there for them, although they would be disregarding a portion of Xbox360 owners if they did.

Good news either way :D

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^^

Zipper ruined socom with socom 3....they shouldnt even call it socom, its like a completely different game..last good socom game was socom 2...and thats the best game ever..

_MURS_

Socom 3 is the only Socom game I have....:(

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here we go again! untill this game gets released i won't believe all the "it can't be done on any other console" crap... Insomniac said it about RFOM and was proven wronggrayfox_2k

and how were they provin wrong. 360 has yet to produce that kind of all around experience with graphics,physics,ai, and enviroment

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#44 ktrotter11
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[QUOTE="leejohnson7"]

[QUOTE="PBSnipes"]Thats like saying Halo 3 is only possible on the 360 because of the DVD drive. Of course you can't throw a PS3 game into a Wii or 360, they allhave completetly different designs.But these marketing teams need to shut up because they aren't fooling anyone. Besides, there are better looking games on the 360 (GRAW 2, GeoW and R6:V) so I don't know why the developers are pushing the "can't be done on ______" angle.PBSnipes

No thats different. You should read the article again, its not that the ps3 has a hard drive that makes it only possible on the ps3, its the way in which it utilises it, because to my knowledge only arcade games and addons get saved to the 360s HDD.

I know that, but other than load times the HDD does zero for the game, so any half decent developer should be able to work around it, like with the PS2 and Xbox last gen. Thats my point with the DVD drive, technically a PS3 couldn't play a 360 game because 360 games are designed to run in a faster drive than the PS3s (at least thats my understanding) so even though yes, the game is only possible on the 360 any half decent developer could work around that.

The disc drive has multiple read speeds that go along with the type of medium being used. like bd is a 2x and i think dvd may be a 4r8x

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#45 ktrotter11
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If you read the article he said it was unique to the ps3 because ,THEY ARE USING THE HARD DRIVE TO STREAM TEXTURES, thats why they said it was not possible on other consoles.. and the fact that everyone has a hdd helps too
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yea
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#47 S1xSh0t
Member since 2007 • 529 Posts
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[QUOTE="killab2oo5"]Any screenshots?Judging from the one I saw posted earlier,Rainbow 6 looks better.But,ive only seen one screenshot:D. I doubt if this could only be done on PS3,just like I doubt if Gears of War could only be done on 360._MURS_

Rainbow Six better look better. This is only a PSN game. It will probably get a blu-ray collectors edition like warhawk though.

rainbow six looks better?? Rainbow six has awful graphics compared to most 360 games....are you kidding me?? I just got finsished playing the damn game 5 seconds ago, its probably the best online game for 360, but i comes nowhere close to having better graphics than socom....and most 360 games for that matter..

battlefield: 2 mondern combat looks better then socom

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#48 SergeantSnitch
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ZOMG the huge suprise was no mention of teh Cell! What if they use Cell + hard drive!!?! Twice less chance 360 could handle it!JiveT


Look how many laughs you got....

Btw, what Slant Six meant was that Socom:Confrontation couldn't be done on the 360 because of the lack of standard harddrive.

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#49 SergeantSnitch
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SOCOM's sucked since the second installment, in my opinion.Verge_6

If you watched the Sony Gamer's Day trailer, it looks like the game is returning to the Socom/Socom 2 roots. The map was essentially a detailed Crossroads. We'll see how it turns out, I agree though. Socom 3 and Socom:CA were TERRIBLE.
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#50 mrboo15
Member since 2006 • 2043 Posts

:lol::lol::lol: X-Bots on overdrive, Socum is a FREE PSN downloadable game, so of course GRAW and R6:V are gonna look better :lol: