PS3 Tanking in Europe (New Report)

like i said, on the long run blu ray is beneficial. right now, it may seem like it's hurting, but once they wipe hd dvd out of the market, then... bam. there you go, you can guess what'll happen... people will have to buy the ps3.

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Or a cheaper dedicated BluRay player.  If HD discs ever see mass adoption.

anyone ever think maybe only 33,000 sold because the first shipment SOLD OUT?  I mean... think about things before postingSteveMcD

If they were sold out, retailers wouldn't put them on sale now, would they? You only have sales to increase the demand for a product that you still have.

anyone ever think maybe only 33,000 sold because the first shipment SOLD OUT? I mean... think about things before postingSteveMcD

If PS3 had sold completely through its launch shipment anywhere in Europe, we would know.  There would be media reports of the console being unavailable, and Sony sure as hell would have a positive press release on that news.

The console's completely available, and we haven't heard 'boo' from Sony.  Ergo, the launch shipment did not sell out before resupply, and the fall in sales is directly linked to a fall in demand.

[QUOTE="jackie_chan13"]niiiccce MS propaganda... i don't fall for it. PS3 had the greatest launch in their history, and it's now tanking? please.Iyethar

It did in North America and Japan. Why would Europe be any different?

Cant forget Australia.... It started out worse then the Wii and 360 there, and has gone downhill from there.

anyone ever think maybe only 33,000 sold because the first shipment SOLD OUT?  I mean... think about things before postingSteveMcD

Im just curious do YOU think before posting.  Because YOU are the only person that needs to think here.  Lets see....WHY are stores DISCOUNTING the price of the PS3......because its out of stock :lol: ...... its everywhere...

[QUOTE="MasterChumly"]Man people are avoiding this thread like its the plague. RahnAetas

Probably because it smells of death.

 ... death of the PS3 

at the end of the day its all about the games not how GREAT the console is. as many have said before PS2 won because of the games not how powerful it is(because the xbox was more powerful from day one). i think Sony lost track of that fact. the PS2 was great because of the games and the games alone the PS3 can't say that.... thx:) norm

Man people are avoiding this thread like its the plague. MasterChumly

It's like commenting on the weather.....it is what it is.  If true, well then it's not good for PS3.

The PS3 has failed in every country that it has been released.

As for BluRay helping Sony in the long run, better and cheap stand-a-lone players will be on the market within the next year or two.  BluRay is the single reason why the PS3 is failing, keeping the PS3 at a very high price.  The "Disk" format is quickly becoming a non-factor, because of pay-on demand and downloadable HD content.  It's nothing like it was when the PS2 came out.  Sort of like porn helping HD-DVD, which is pretty well all downloaded on the internet.

I personally hope the PS3 does somewhat good this gen, it keeps competition healthy, innovation fresh, and prices down.  Good for everyone that 2 competing systems are on the market, but not looking very great for the PS3 right now.

niiiccce MS propaganda... i don't fall for it. PS3 had the greatest launch in their history, and it's now tanking? please.jackie_chan13

[QUOTE="jackie_chan13"]niiiccce MS propaganda... i don't fall for it. PS3 had the greatest launch in their history, and it's now tanking? please.Hammerofjustice

[QUOTE="MasterChumly"]Man people are avoiding this thread like its the plague. jd7-03

Its because the PS3 fanboys don't want to hear the truth.  

That what?  Its sold over 3 million units worldwide on the playstation brand alone and with no great games to back it up?  Fact is launch numbers mean nothing both the xbox and gamecube sold faster then the PS2 its first 6monthes and look how that turned out in the long run.  Once the exclusives role out the PS3 will dominate and the fact is as many people as I know that hate the PS3 they all plan on getting one eventually.

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[QUOTE="jackie_chan13"]niiiccce MS propaganda... i don't fall for it. PS3 had the greatest launch in their history, and it's now tanking? please.jackie_chan13

It did in North America and Japan.  Why would Europe be any different? 

it never had the best launch in japan or NA. but whatever. blu ray is selling well and there's no reason this will affect sony on the long run.

blue ray is whats hurting the PS3 sells period. People can deny it all they want, but if the PS3 didnt have blue ray and it cost $399.99 the same as the xbox 360 premium, they would probably be winning right now, or if not winning it would be alot closer than it is. Most people dont even know what blue ray is, hell just recently there was more DVDs in households than VCR's. Blue ray and HDDVD is a gamble and for all we know neither will make it.

How long do you think it will take for blue ray or hddvd either one to even come remotely close to the sells of dvds?

like i said, on the long run blu ray is beneficial. right now, it may seem like it's hurting, but once they wipe hd dvd out of the market, then... bam. there you go, you can guess what'll happen... people will have to buy the ps3.

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[QUOTE="MasterChumly"]Man people are avoiding this thread like its the plague. Vadrick

Its because the PS3 fanboys don't want to hear the truth.  

That what?  Its sold over 3 million units worldwide on the playstation brand alone and with no great games to back it up?  Fact is launch numbers mean nothing both the xbox and gamecube sold faster then the PS2 its first 6monthes and look how that turned out in the long run.  Once the exclusives role out the PS3 will dominate and the fact is as many people as I know that hate the PS3 they all plan on getting one eventually.

What does the xbox, gamecube and PS2 have anything to do with the current generation of consoles?

And what exclusives are you talking about?  Last time I have checked, a good portion of games are multiplat.  If you talking about MGS, HS and Liar, LOL, you really believe these games are gonna turn around horrid PS3 sales?  They might spike the PS3 here and there, but in no way these games gonna save the PS3.

Whether you like to admitt it or not, price is the single defining factor in a consoles success, and the PS3 is in no real position to get ahead anytime soon.  Until the PS3 drops to the $200 to $250 range, expect the PS3 just to be another niche product.

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[QUOTE="MasterChumly"]Man people are avoiding this thread like its the plague. Vadrick

Its because the PS3 fanboys don't want to hear the truth.  

That what?  Its sold over 3 million units worldwide on the playstation brand alone and with no great games to back it up?  Fact is launch numbers mean nothing both the xbox and gamecube sold faster then the PS2 its first 6monthes and look how that turned out in the long run.  Once the exclusives role out the PS3 will dominate and the fact is as many people as I know that hate the PS3 they all plan on getting one eventually.

Exclusives??? Sony still has exclusives...The few exclusives that sony has left (and it wouldn't shock me if they lost more) in  no way compare to the exclusives that the 360 has. The 360 has sooooo many sweet exclusives coming out this year that I think they likely put sony to rest.

Fact is many retailers still haven't sold all their original first shipment.I bought my PS3 recently so I'm no fanboy,just stating the sad facts

Not surprising. It's extremely expensive with few good titles coming this year.

People threw up the idea that maybe it sold so well at launch was because it shipped so dang many and saturated the market with supply. Cows bit their heads off. Looks like now maybe they were to be listened to. 

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[QUOTE="MasterChumly"]Man people are avoiding this thread like its the plague. AgentVX

Its because the PS3 fanboys don't want to hear the truth.  

That what?  Its sold over 3 million units worldwide on the playstation brand alone and with no great games to back it up?  Fact is launch numbers mean nothing both the xbox and gamecube sold faster then the PS2 its first 6monthes and look how that turned out in the long run.  Once the exclusives role out the PS3 will dominate and the fact is as many people as I know that hate the PS3 they all plan on getting one eventually.

What does the xbox, gamecube and PS2 have anything to do with the current generation of consoles?

And what exclusives are you talking about?  Last time I have checked, a good portion of games are multiplat.  If you talking about MGS, HS and Liar, LOL, you really believe these games are gonna turn around horrid PS3 sales?  They might spike the PS3 here and there, but in no way these games gonna save the PS3.

Whether you like to admitt it or not, price is the single defining factor in a consoles success, and the PS3 is in no real position to get ahead anytime soon.  Until the PS3 drops to the $200 to $250 range, expect the PS3 just to be another niche product.

The xbox and gamecube have lots to do do with it because even though they had better launch figures the PS2 outsold both of them combined meaning the sales numbers now mean nothing.  Hell if the numbers now were indicative to how things were going too turn out then the Wii would dominate this gen and I really dont see that happening in the long run.

So what games am I talking about? Well you named a few there and out of all those yes MGS is a huge system seller but you also forgot Uncharted.Drakes fortune, FF13,KZ2 and NGS.  And thats just the titles coming out this year there will be many more announced at E3.  Regardless all it needs is some big games and one price drop and the 360 is screwed especially with the release of the elite version all that did was shoot Microsoft in the foot and open the doors for Sony.

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[QUOTE="MasterChumly"]Man people are avoiding this thread like its the plague. tylerdurden2621

Its because the PS3 fanboys don't want to hear the truth.  

That what?  Its sold over 3 million units worldwide on the playstation brand alone and with no great games to back it up?  Fact is launch numbers mean nothing both the xbox and gamecube sold faster then the PS2 its first 6monthes and look how that turned out in the long run.  Once the exclusives role out the PS3 will dominate and the fact is as many people as I know that hate the PS3 they all plan on getting one eventually.

Exclusives??? Sony still has exclusives...The few exclusives that sony has left (and it wouldn't shock me if they lost more) in  no way compare to the exclusives that the 360 has. The 360 has sooooo many sweet exclusives coming out this year that I think they likely put sony to rest.

LMAO MS has very few exclusives and they lost almost as many as Sony the only reason people give Sony so much crap for losing them is they had alot more exclusives to lose in the first place.  If you look at this time last year for the 360 it had nowhere near the games annoucned for it the PS3 did.  If you think MS is  putting Sony to rest your delusional and if they did then the gaming industry would go down the toilet.

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[QUOTE="MasterChumly"]Man people are avoiding this thread like its the plague. Vadrick

Its because the PS3 fanboys don't want to hear the truth.

That what? Its sold over 3 million units worldwide on the playstation brand alone and with no great games to back it up? Fact is launch numbers mean nothing both the xbox and gamecube sold faster then the PS2 its first 6monthes and look how that turned out in the long run. Once the exclusives role out the PS3 will dominate and the fact is as many people as I know that hate the PS3 they all plan on getting one eventually.

What does the xbox, gamecube and PS2 have anything to do with the current generation of consoles?

And what exclusives are you talking about? Last time I have checked, a good portion of games are multiplat. If you talking about MGS, HS and Liar, LOL, you really believe these games are gonna turn around horrid PS3 sales? They might spike the PS3 here and there, but in no way these games gonna save the PS3.

Whether you like to admitt it or not, price is the single defining factor in a consoles success, and the PS3 is in no real position to get ahead anytime soon. Until the PS3 drops to the $200 to $250 range, expect the PS3 just to be another niche product.

The xbox and gamecube have lots to do do with it because even though they had better launch figures the PS2 outsold both of them combined meaning the sales numbers now mean nothing. Hell if the numbers now were indicative to how things were going too turn out then the Wii would dominate this gen and I really dont see that happening in the long run.

So what games am I talking about? Well you named a few there and out of all those yes MGS is a huge system seller but you also forgot Uncharted.Drakes fortune, FF13,KZ2 and NGS. And thats just the titles coming out this year there will be many more announced at E3. Regardless all it needs is some big games and one price drop and the 360 is screwed especially with the release of the elite version all that did was shoot Microsoft in the foot and open the doors for Sony.

MGS and Final Fantasy, fine, those are big sellers (although FF13 isn't coming this year).

But Ninja Gaiden, Killzone and Uncharted Drakes Fortune are hardly what I'd call system sellers.

Also, according to Sony, there is not going to be a price drop this year, and I hardly see how the Elite opened the door for the PS3, since it didn't eclipse the availability of the Premium or Core systems. 

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[QUOTE="MasterChumly"]Man people are avoiding this thread like its the plague. Vadrick

Its because the PS3 fanboys don't want to hear the truth.

That what? Its sold over 3 million units worldwide on the playstation brand alone and with no great games to back it up? Fact is launch numbers mean nothing both the xbox and gamecube sold faster then the PS2 its first 6monthes and look how that turned out in the long run. Once the exclusives role out the PS3 will dominate and the fact is as many people as I know that hate the PS3 they all plan on getting one eventually.

I just got a sense of Deja-Vu, I swear I've seen this "exclusive" thing befo... oh! Thats right, Nintendo 64! And we all know how that dominated the marketplace with its exclusives. 

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[QUOTE="jackie_chan13"]niiiccce MS propaganda... i don't fall for it. PS3 had the greatest launch in their history, and it's now tanking? please.jackie_chan13

It did in North America and Japan. Why would Europe be any different?

it never had the best launch in japan or NA. but whatever. blu ray is selling well and there's no reason this will affect sony on the long run.

blue ray is whats hurting the PS3 sells period. People can deny it all they want, but if the PS3 didnt have blue ray and it cost $399.99 the same as the xbox 360 premium, they would probably be winning right now, or if not winning it would be alot closer than it is. Most people dont even know what blue ray is, hell just recently there was more DVDs in households than VCR's. Blue ray and HDDVD is a gamble and for all we know neither will make it.

How long do you think it will take for blue ray or hddvd either one to even come remotely close to the sells of dvds?

like i said, on the long run blu ray is beneficial. right now, it may seem like it's hurting, but once they wipe hd dvd out of the market, then... bam. there you go, you can guess what'll happen... people will have to buy the ps3.

... No, people will buy the cheaper standalone Blue-Ray players that'll be out by the time HD-DVD is dead and enough people care to upgrade over DVD for it to matter.

Blu-Ray is killing HD-DVD in sales apparently, but they are both being massicred by DVD still.

Why would people do that if there are great games on the ps3 by then? blu ray innovates gameplay and graphics, so therefore, it is good for gaming.

Blu-ray does nothing for gameplay or graphics that cannot be down on DVD9...

Its a sotrage medium, not some miracle cream... 

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[QUOTE="MasterChumly"]Man people are avoiding this thread like its the plague. Vadrick

Its because the PS3 fanboys don't want to hear the truth.  

That what?  Its sold over 3 million units worldwide on the playstation brand alone and with no great games to back it up?  Fact is launch numbers mean nothing both the xbox and gamecube sold faster then the PS2 its first 6monthes and look how that turned out in the long run.  Once the exclusives role out the PS3 will dominate and the fact is as many people as I know that hate the PS3 they all plan on getting one eventually.

What does the xbox, gamecube and PS2 have anything to do with the current generation of consoles?

And what exclusives are you talking about?  Last time I have checked, a good portion of games are multiplat.  If you talking about MGS, HS and Liar, LOL, you really believe these games are gonna turn around horrid PS3 sales?  They might spike the PS3 here and there, but in no way these games gonna save the PS3.

Whether you like to admitt it or not, price is the single defining factor in a consoles success, and the PS3 is in no real position to get ahead anytime soon.  Until the PS3 drops to the $200 to $250 range, expect the PS3 just to be another niche product.

The xbox and gamecube have lots to do do with it because even though they had better launch figures the PS2 outsold both of them combined meaning the sales numbers now mean nothing.  Hell if the numbers now were indicative to how things were going too turn out then the Wii would dominate this gen and I really dont see that happening in the long run.

So what games am I talking about? Well you named a few there and out of all those yes MGS is a huge system seller but you also forgot Uncharted.Drakes fortune, FF13,KZ2 and NGS.  And thats just the titles coming out this year there will be many more announced at E3.  Regardless all it needs is some big games and one price drop and the 360 is screwed especially with the release of the elite version all that did was shoot Microsoft in the foot and open the doors for Sony.

Ummm, no.......  Last Generation has very little to do with todays console.  All you have given was one possibility out of countless possiblilities.  This is nothing but prediction, and a bad prediction I might add.  Actually if you want to have a more accurate prediction, is that every console released in a "new generation" that was more expensive has alway's lost.

Well, lets look at a few.  FF series is what I consider a system seller, MGS solid can some what be considered a system seller.  But the other games you listed like KZ2 and NGS are definately not system sellers.  The only other system seller the Sony brand has, which is not coming out this year is Grad Turismo.

And by far....ahead of the pack of system selling software for the Sony Brand is the GTA series, which is coming out for the 360, with exclusive downloadable content.  People are going to pick up either a 360 or PS3 when this game comes out, and which one do you think that they are going to purchase.  A console that's noticable more expensive with no as of yet, confirmed extra downloadable content, or a system that's price is noticably cheaper with downloadable content?  360 will win out.

And the 360 is in a much better situation to have a price drop than the PS3.  The 360 is making money right now, and the PS3 is still losing quite a bit.  Tell me that MS couldn't go toe to toe with Sony in that department.

Not only that, by the time Christmas comes out, the 360 library is still that much ahead of Sony's.

Sorry dude, at least for the next 2 years, the PS3 outlook is looking pretty grim.  Question is, can it recover?

There are 7 PS3's in the local Argo's to me.  You can check on a machine they have in there if something is in stock.

 They have over 40 360's though and have done since before Xmas.  They have sold some but not a lot but it could be noted that they have a crap offer on for 360 compared to other retailers.

Wii is still sold out. 

I don't consider the PS3 or the X360 a good purchase. Both are expensive, X360s Ring of Death, PS3 lacks in games and both have to high power consumption. The only console that appeals to me and to most of the people I know is the Wii.

Of course there are a few hardcore gamers that want a PS3 or a 360, but they are to expensive just to play Shooters or Sports games. If I want to play a Shooter I get it for the PC.

Referring the sales drop in Europe. I can find both the X360 and the PS3 in equal amounts in every market store, but the Wii is still sold out and everyone (in the EU) waits like on needles to get one!

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[QUOTE="MasterChumly"]Man people are avoiding this thread like its the plague. Vadrick

Its because the PS3 fanboys don't want to hear the truth.

That what? Its sold over 3 million units worldwide on the playstation brand alone and with no great games to back it up? Fact is launch numbers mean nothing both the xbox and gamecube sold faster then the PS2 its first 6monthes and look how that turned out in the long run. Once the exclusives role out the PS3 will dominate and the fact is as many people as I know that hate the PS3 they all plan on getting one eventually.

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[QUOTE="MasterChumly"]Man people are avoiding this thread like its the plague. mushroomscout89

So much for the cows hopes of Europe saving the PS3

Also, in a new report, the highest RE-sold and returned console in europe ever.

your sig is creepy 

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[QUOTE="MasterChumly"]Man people are avoiding this thread like its the plague. Vadrick

Its because the PS3 fanboys don't want to hear the truth.  

That what?  Its sold over 3 million units worldwide on the playstation brand alone and with no great games to back it up?  Fact is launch numbers mean nothing both the xbox and gamecube sold faster then the PS2 its first 6monthes and look how that turned out in the long run.  Once the exclusives role out the PS3 will dominate and the fact is as many people as I know that hate the PS3 they all plan on getting one eventually.

What does the xbox, gamecube and PS2 have anything to do with the current generation of consoles?

And what exclusives are you talking about?  Last time I have checked, a good portion of games are multiplat.  If you talking about MGS, HS and Liar, LOL, you really believe these games are gonna turn around horrid PS3 sales?  They might spike the PS3 here and there, but in no way these games gonna save the PS3.

Whether you like to admitt it or not, price is the single defining factor in a consoles success, and the PS3 is in no real position to get ahead anytime soon.  Until the PS3 drops to the $200 to $250 range, expect the PS3 just to be another niche product.

The xbox and gamecube have lots to do do with it because even though they had better launch figures the PS2 outsold both of them combined meaning the sales numbers now mean nothing.  Hell if the numbers now were indicative to how things were going too turn out then the Wii would dominate this gen and I really dont see that happening in the long run.

So what games am I talking about? Well you named a few there and out of all those yes MGS is a huge system seller but you also forgot Uncharted.Drakes fortune, FF13,KZ2 and NGS.  And thats just the titles coming out this year there will be many more announced at E3.  Regardless all it needs is some big games and one price drop and the 360 is screwed especially with the release of the elite version all that did was shoot Microsoft in the foot and open the doors for Sony.

Killzone 2 has basically shown no gameplay at all, just cgi trailers

NGS was released years ago for the xbox under the name "Ninja Gaiden" and "NG Black"

There's talk of FF13 not being exclusive to the ps3

And basically, 360 has the better exclusives now and will have even better exclusives later.

The PS3 has failed in every country that it has been released.

As for BluRay helping Sony in the long run, better and cheap stand-a-lone players will be on the market within the next year or two.  BluRay is the single reason why the PS3 is failing, keeping the PS3 at a very high price.  The "Disk" format is quickly becoming a non-factor, because of pay-on demand and downloadable HD content.  It's nothing like it was when the PS2 came out.  Sort of like porn helping HD-DVD, which is pretty well all downloaded on the internet.

I personally hope the PS3 does somewhat good this gen, it keeps competition healthy, innovation fresh, and prices down.  Good for everyone that 2 competing systems are on the market, but not looking very great for the PS3 right now.

 

AgentVX

It takes longer than 5 months to fail(UsA, Japan) and 1 month to fail(europe). PS3s heavy hitters aren't even out yet. 360 has failed in japan because its yet to move half a mill after over a year over there. Now if PS3 was in this situation after a year, then you can call it a failure, until then, it's too soon to say anything about PS3.

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[QUOTE="MasterChumly"]Man people are avoiding this thread like its the plague. Codename33

Its because the PS3 fanboys don't want to hear the truth.  

That what?  Its sold over 3 million units worldwide on the playstation brand alone and with no great games to back it up?  Fact is launch numbers mean nothing both the xbox and gamecube sold faster then the PS2 its first 6monthes and look how that turned out in the long run.  Once the exclusives role out the PS3 will dominate and the fact is as many people as I know that hate the PS3 they all plan on getting one eventually.

What does the xbox, gamecube and PS2 have anything to do with the current generation of consoles?

And what exclusives are you talking about?  Last time I have checked, a good portion of games are multiplat.  If you talking about MGS, HS and Liar, LOL, you really believe these games are gonna turn around horrid PS3 sales?  They might spike the PS3 here and there, but in no way these games gonna save the PS3.

Whether you like to admitt it or not, price is the single defining factor in a consoles success, and the PS3 is in no real position to get ahead anytime soon.  Until the PS3 drops to the $200 to $250 range, expect the PS3 just to be another niche product.

The xbox and gamecube have lots to do do with it because even though they had better launch figures the PS2 outsold both of them combined meaning the sales numbers now mean nothing.  Hell if the numbers now were indicative to how things were going too turn out then the Wii would dominate this gen and I really dont see that happening in the long run.

So what games am I talking about? Well you named a few there and out of all those yes MGS is a huge system seller but you also forgot Uncharted.Drakes fortune, FF13,KZ2 and NGS.  And thats just the titles coming out this year there will be many more announced at E3.  Regardless all it needs is some big games and one price drop and the 360 is screwed especially with the release of the elite version all that did was shoot Microsoft in the foot and open the doors for Sony.

Killzone 2 has basically shown no gameplay at all, just cgi trailers

NGS was released years ago for the xbox under the name "Ninja Gaiden" and "NG Black"

There's talk of FF13 not being exclusive to the ps3

And basically, 360 has the better exclusives now and will have even better exclusives later.

1. People talk all the time, that doesn't mean FF13 multiplat will happen. Don't think that just because a game like DMC goes multiplat that every game will. FF13 is too huge of a game to fit on DVD.

2. The second underlined statement is an opinion, not a fact.

I would just like to point out that what you are saying is true, also happens to be totally irrelevant. CLICK HERE. It is irrelevant because if you actually bothered to read an unbiased article you would find the 360 was also dropped in price aswell across the country. It was all part of an Easter special many stores were doing, now the prices for both systems are at rrp again.

OWND 

I don't consider the PS3 or the X360 a good purchase. Both are expensive, X360s Ring of Death, PS3 lacks in games and both have to high power consumption. The only console that appeals to me and to most of the people I know is the Wii.

Of course there are a few hardcore gamers that want a PS3 or a 360, but they are to expensive just to play Shooters or Sports games. If I want to play a Shooter I get it for the PC.

Referring the sales drop in Europe. I can find both the X360 and the PS3 in equal amounts in every market store, but the Wii is still sold out and everyone (in the EU) waits like on needles to get one!

Kreean

I consider the 360 to be a very good purchase.  Not only, right now it has the best gaming line up, excellent online service, but it acts as a Media Center Hub on my 60" Hi-Def DLP and stereo system.

Not only can I stream Music with album covers and playlists, but I can watch videos from my computer, display HD slide shows from my digital camera, record satillite broadcasts onto my PC from my 360 and watch them later.

And I can play games in HD, unlike the Wii.  For me, the Wii is a rip off, but I am looking more for a video/media console, in which the 360 is a much better value than the Wii.

But if you have a SD TV and only want a video gaming console with no bells and whistles, then the Wii is for you.

I would just like to point out that what you are saying is true, also happens to be totally irrelevant. CLICK HERE. It is irrelevant because if you actually bothered to read an unbiased article you would find the 360 was also dropped in price aswell across the country. It was all part of an Easter special many stores were doing, now the prices for both systems are at rrp again.

OWND 

meischris39

But the Xbox 360's price has returned to normal now and the PS3's has stayed at the "sale" price.

LOL at the sheep. It was going to happen, it sold a ton at launch and then slowed down...As I have said a billion times, it's to early to kill any system. Wait until later this year when the good stuff comes out.

I also doubt the Wii is as popular as some claim. They keep saying..sold out sold out sold out!!! Please, Nintendo is holding back consoles to make it look like it's selling better than it is. Think about it, The Wii is a souped up rehashed gamecube, everybody knows it's the same basic thing just souped up and with MD.....But they expect us to believe they can't meet the demand 6 months in on something they have been making en mass for years? I don't think so, even nintendo doesn't think this will last. So they send a little each month and when they get sold out people clamor sold out and it makes the Wii look huge instead of the average system it is.

[QUOTE="AgentVX"]

The PS3 has failed in every country that it has been released.

As for BluRay helping Sony in the long run, better and cheap stand-a-lone players will be on the market within the next year or two.  BluRay is the single reason why the PS3 is failing, keeping the PS3 at a very high price.  The "Disk" format is quickly becoming a non-factor, because of pay-on demand and downloadable HD content.  It's nothing like it was when the PS2 came out.  Sort of like porn helping HD-DVD, which is pretty well all downloaded on the internet.

I personally hope the PS3 does somewhat good this gen, it keeps competition healthy, innovation fresh, and prices down.  Good for everyone that 2 competing systems are on the market, but not looking very great for the PS3 right now.

 

SilverGamer99

It takes longer than 5 months to fail(UsA, Japan) and 1 month to fail(europe). PS3s heavy hitters aren't even out yet. 360 has failed in japan because its yet to move half a mill after over a year over there. Now if PS3 was in this situation after a year, then you can call it a failure, until then, it's too soon to say anything about PS3.

No, I can and will call it a failure.  Simple reason it that it's too expensive.  1 or 2 years ain't gonna fix that, and that's just fact.  And current dismal sales figures of the PS3 are already, just after a couple months, showing this to be true.  Whether you believe it's the best console has no bearing on what the market is willing to spend on a video game console.

The sooner cows can come to terms with this, the sooner they can just enjoy there shiny black boxes, and realize that the PS3 aint' gonna be the PS2.

[QUOTE="meischris39"]

I would just like to point out that what you are saying is true, also happens to be totally irrelevant. CLICK HERE. It is irrelevant because if you actually bothered to read an unbiased article you would find the 360 was also dropped in price aswell across the country. It was all part of an Easter special many stores were doing, now the prices for both systems are at rrp again.

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Eothein

But the Xbox 360's price has returned to normal now and the PS3's has stayed at the "sale" price.

No it has not, WHSmith changed their price back the only shop not to is play.com which is notorious for highly cheap goods. 

[QUOTE="MasterChumly"]Man people are avoiding this thread like its the plague. axt113

So much for the cows hopes of Europe saving the PS3 

LOL at the sheep. It was going to happen, it sold a ton at launch and then slowed down...As I have said a billion times, it's to early to kill any system. Wait until later this year when the good stuff comes out.

 

I also doubt the Wii is as popular as some claim. They keep saying..sold out sold out sold out!!! Please, Nintendo is holding back consoles to make it look like it's selling better than it is. Think about it, The Wii is a souped up rehashed gamecube, everybody knows it's the same basic thing just souped up and with MD.....But they expect us to believe they can't meet the demand 6 months in on something they have been making en mass for years? I don't think so, even nintendo doesn't think this will last. So they send a little each month and when they get sold out people clamor sold out and it makes the Wii look huge instead of the average system it is.

Death2009

Read it here

"Retaile rs are beginning to take it on board that most people are unwilling to pay £425 for any console, let alone the Sony PlayStation 3 . WH Smith and Play.com are among retailers who have recently cut the price of the next generation console to £399.

High street retailer WH Smith took out adverts in the weekend papers to promote its temporary PS3 discount which lasts until the end of today. Presumably the hope is that it can get rid of its remaining stock, after initially strong sales tailed off dramatically.

Play.com is now offering the Sony PlayStation 3 console with 60GB hard disc along with a free HDMI cable and the movie Click on Blu-ray Disc (BD) for just £399.

The fact that retailers are discounting the console so early vividly demonstrates the way sales of the console have diminished in the last couple of weeks. After the hardcore gaming elite flocked out in their droves to swap £425 for the shiny black console in the first seven days following its release, week two was a major disappointment for Sony. "

MasterChumly

"High street retailer WH Smith took out adverts in the weekend papers to promote its temporary PS3 discount which lasts until the end of today. Presumably the hope is that it can get rid of its remaining stock, after initially strong sales tailed off dramatically." do you know what Presumably means>?? do you like really look up it means the guy presumes it so basically he thinks guess what though? everyone near that store is gonna buy a PS3 at WH smith cause it's cheaper. now whos gonna make more money? WH Smith he's gonna get alot of people to go there and when they sell out they might buy something else man you guys try to make something out of nothing.