Last-gen, XBOX had better graphics in almost all multi-platform games(Exclusives are all about opinions) becasue it came out 1 year later after PS2 and so did PS3 but how come it dosent have better graphics?
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[QUOTE="Al3x_n90"]How come you aren't using you're real accout? are you bored? take a look at KZ2 btw :) ZeuxoKillzone2 looks good but nothing special like Crysis I didnt know Crysis was on the 360 :roll: Killzone 2 looks better than anything on consoles /end thread
[QUOTE="Zeuxo"][QUOTE="Al3x_n90"]How come you aren't using you're real accout? are you bored? take a look at KZ2 btw :) WalterPaladinesKillzone2 looks good but nothing special like Crysis I didnt know Crysis was on the 360 :roll: Killzone 2 looks better than anything on consoles /end threadKeep telling yourself that. RE5 looks better then KZ2 and since the 360 almost always has the better multi then the 360 will prolly have the best version of RE5
Well look at it this way it looks like RE5 will be the graphics king so whichever console has the better version wins.rybe1025
Looking at CAPCOM's history, especially there most recent game, DMC4, that's going to be an incredibly tough call. DMC4 had minor improvements on PS3 over the 360 version, but that was due to Installs. The 360 can install now, but will it do anything (Halo 3 is worse with install) or will it negate is left to be determined.
I have a feeling the game will be like Deadspace, and be identical.
I don't know if RE5 will be graphics king though (It's a contender though), GeoW2, Uncharted, and some even say MGS4 are too tough to beat. Not to mention, Uncharted 2, KZ2, or FFXIII. Did I miss any Graphic Hyped games?
Short answer, smart hardware decisions and superior development tools.Last-gen, XBOX had better graphics in almost all multi-platform games(Exclusives are all about opinions) becasue it came out 1 year later after PS2 and so did PS3 but how come it dosent have better graphics?
Zeuxo
Well look at it this way it looks like RE5 will be the graphics king so whichever console has the better version wins.rybe1025It only looks better to the haters and people who don't have a PS3. The general consessus by the press and the non fanboys is: KZ2 >>>> RE5
It was? I think it does. Compare any game to MGS4 or Killzone2 ( upon release and tell me they dont) MGS4 has what at least 16x AA on hat game at those resolutions ... thats insane, absolutely 0 jaggies anywhere ... ya you can have all these nice graphics but if it looks like your playing on razor sharp edges all over its going to look marred.ColdfireTrilogyMgs4 has 16xaa? Never heard that before. Where are you getting your facts from?
[QUOTE="Al3x_n90"]So A game that arguably looks better is the same as almost EVERY game looking better?Steppy_76
What are you talking about? you're spinning words like...whatever...i'm in a thread where the TC thinks crysis is on the 360 or something... no point :P
[QUOTE="ColdfireTrilogy"]It was? I think it does. Compare any game to MGS4 or Killzone2 ( upon release and tell me they dont) MGS4 has what at least 16x AA on hat game at those resolutions ... thats insane, absolutely 0 jaggies anywhere ... ya you can have all these nice graphics but if it looks like your playing on razor sharp edges all over its going to look marred.ZeuxoMgs4 has 16xaa? Never heard that before. Where are you getting your facts from?
Omg now mgs4 with 16x aa? :lol: lulz where is this thread getting...
Mgs4 has 16xaa? Never heard that before. Where are you getting your facts from?[QUOTE="Steppy_76"][QUOTE="Al3x_n90"]
What are you talking about? you're spinning words like...whatever...i'm in a thread where the TC thinks crysis is on the 360 or something... no point :P
[QUOTE="Zeuxo"][QUOTE="ColdfireTrilogy"]It was? I think it does. Compare any game to MGS4 or Killzone2 ( upon release and tell me they dont) MGS4 has what at least 16x AA on hat game at those resolutions ... thats insane, absolutely 0 jaggies anywhere ... ya you can have all these nice graphics but if it looks like your playing on razor sharp edges all over its going to look marred.Al3x_n90
Omg now mgs4 with 16x aa? :lol: lulz where is this thread getting...
I know Crysis is pc exclusive but some cows think Killzone2 is the new Crysis(Graphics god)[QUOTE="rybe1025"]Well look at it this way it looks like RE5 will be the graphics king so whichever console has the better version wins.WalterPaladinesIt only looks better to the haters and people who don't have a PS3. The general consessus by the press and the non fanboys is: KZ2 >>>> RE5 So let me get this straight if a person does not agree that KZ2 is is the graphics king then they are a hater and a fanboy but if they agree then they are right? With statements like that you should not throw around the fanboy name calling.
why!? because Sony keeps feeding fanboys a lot of hardware power fantasy. I used to believe in that from my heart. PS3 is like a Ferrari car with 150hp engine, looks so perfect and beautiful, but it is not as good as you think it is.Last-gen, XBOX had better graphics in almost all multi-platform games(Exclusives are all about opinions) becasue it came out 1 year later after PS2 and so did PS3 but how come it dosent have better graphics?
Zeuxo
[QUOTE="Steppy_76"][QUOTE="Al3x_n90"]
What are you talking about? you're spinning words like...whatever...i'm in a thread where the TC thinks crysis is on the 360 or something... no point :P
[QUOTE="ColdfireTrilogy"]It was? I think it does. Compare any game to MGS4 or Killzone2 ( upon release and tell me they dont) MGS4 has what at least 16x AA on hat game at those resolutions ... thats insane, absolutely 0 jaggies anywhere ... ya you can have all these nice graphics but if it looks like your playing on razor sharp edges all over its going to look marred.ZeuxoMgs4 has 16xaa? Never heard that before. Where are you getting your facts from?
Omg now mgs4 with 16x aa? :lol: lulz where is this thread getting...
The TC never mentioned crysis in the post you quoted. He asked why an extra year gave the Xbox an advantage nearly across the board, and you responded with a single game, as if that 1 game shows that the PS3 is as superior to the 360 is equal to the few hundred multiplats showing the Xbox to be superior. He basically asked "why aren't nearly all games better looking on the PS3?" and you respond with ONE game. It would be like him asking why the desert is hot and dry, and you giving him the date of the one rainstorm a decade that happens in order to show that the desert is really cold and wet.Actually, back in the day, most multiplat titles looked the same or even better on the PS2 than on Xbox because games were built around the PS2, which was the lead developing platform.metalgear-solidOh, I see you finally realized that attempting to use the "lazy" developer ports argument was backfiring eh? So now you are going to try to rewrite history and claim the PS2 games looked the same or better? Sorry, it doesn't work that way. The xbox ports looked better than the PS2 "originals". Even this gen, now that games are using the PS3 as the lead platform we're seeing the 360 "ports" look as good or better than the PS3 originals. The ONLY time ports on the "more powerful platform" are stuggling to look as good as the original is when the ports are on the PS3.
[QUOTE="WalterPaladines"][QUOTE="Zeuxo"]Killzone2 looks good but nothing special like Crysisrybe1025I didnt know Crysis was on the 360 :roll: Killzone 2 looks better than anything on consoles /end threadKeep telling yourself that. RE5 looks better then KZ2 and since the 360 almost always has the better multi then the 360 will prolly have the best version of RE5 first of all, judging by the demo RE5 has the best CHARACTER models, while killzone has better OVERALL graphics..its also a more techincal game. About the Multiplats, last i heard the PS3 was the lead platform for RE5 and knowing capcom, both will be identical, like Dead Space was....also PS3 has its superior multiplats, the recent being Tomb Raider underworld. Fallout 3 on the PS3 also showed BETTER textures and lighting. stop being a fanboy. quite a few Impressions and previews of Killzone 2 state its the best looking console title.
[QUOTE="Zeuxo"]Short answer, smart hardware decisions and superior development tools.you are absolutely right about that statement, especially since all the dev had nothing but great things to say about the dvd format. Because of this "smart hardware decision" move, the 360 is immune to any hardware fault, especially the RRODLast-gen, XBOX had better graphics in almost all multi-platform games(Exclusives are all about opinions) becasue it came out 1 year later after PS2 and so did PS3 but how come it dosent have better graphics?
Steppy_76
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[QUOTE="Zeuxo"]why!? because Sony keeps feeding fanboys a lot of hardware power fantasy. I used to believe in that from my heart. PS3 is like a Ferrari car with 150hp engine, looks so perfect and beautiful, but it is not as good as you think it is.so, there must be a game on the 360 that blows KZ2 graphics out of the water. Mind telling me what that game is?Last-gen, XBOX had better graphics in almost all multi-platform games(Exclusives are all about opinions) becasue it came out 1 year later after PS2 and so did PS3 but how come it dosent have better graphics?
Leo-Magic
[QUOTE="Al3x_n90"]How come you aren't using you're real accout? are you bored? take a look at KZ2 btw :) ZeuxoKillzone2 looks good but nothing special like Crysis
I thought u were talking about consoles? KZ2 has the best graphics so far for consoles. Although Crysis has the best graphics overall of video gaming it is still good to be a close second.
Correct me on this but, KZ2 MIGHT even look good as crysis or really close to it if it was developed for PC.
Short answer, smart hardware decisions and superior development tools.you are absolutely right about that statement, especially since all the dev had nothing but great things to say about the dvd format. Because of this "smart hardware decision" move, the 360 is immune to any hardware fault, especially the RROD[QUOTE="Steppy_76"][QUOTE="Zeuxo"]
Last-gen, XBOX had better graphics in almost all multi-platform games(Exclusives are all about opinions) becasue it came out 1 year later after PS2 and so did PS3 but how come it dosent have better graphics?
ermacness
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hardware reliability has what exactly to do with graphical output? Ms put in less expensive hardware with a more familiar architecture that can output equivilent graphics. You wanna try to debunk my statement again there chief?[QUOTE="rybe1025"][QUOTE="WalterPaladines"] I didnt know Crysis was on the 360 :roll: Killzone 2 looks better than anything on consoles /end threadEyezonmiiKeep telling yourself that. RE5 looks better then KZ2 and since the 360 almost always has the better multi then the 360 will prolly have the best version of RE5 first of all, judging by the demo RE5 has the best CHARACTER models, while killzone has better OVERALL graphics..its also a more techincal game. About the Multiplats, last i heard the PS3 was the lead platform for RE5 and knowing capcom, both will be identical, like Dead Space was....also PS3 has its superior multiplats, the recent being Tomb Raider underworld. Fallout 3 on the PS3 also showed BETTER textures and lighting. stop being a fanboy. quite a few Impressions and previews of Killzone 2 state its the best looking console title.
What he said.
And if TC really doesn't know and this thread isn't flamebait, i shall explain.
The ps3 is a powerful yet complicated platform to develop for, but if devs have the right tools and are prepared to work, then the result are quite impressive, hence uncharted2 and KZ2 :) The 360 is more dev friendly. In most cases the lead platform has the slightly superior version of the game :)
[QUOTE="WalterPaladines"][QUOTE="Zeuxo"]Killzone2 looks good but nothing special like Crysisrybe1025I didnt know Crysis was on the 360 :roll: Killzone 2 looks better than anything on consoles /end threadKeep telling yourself that. RE5 looks better then KZ2 and since the 360 almost always has the better multi then the 360 will prolly have the best version of RE5
now...i love the resident evil series as well as the killzone series....but saying something like RE5 has better graphics than KZ2...is such a overstatement.
to conclude i will post some vs. pics.
[QUOTE="Leo-Magic"][QUOTE="Zeuxo"]why!? because Sony keeps feeding fanboys a lot of hardware power fantasy. I used to believe in that from my heart. PS3 is like a Ferrari car with 150hp engine, looks so perfect and beautiful, but it is not as good as you think it is.so, there must be a game on the 360 that blows KZ2 graphics out of the water. Mind telling me what that game is?So occasionally putting out a superior graphical game(one that has had more dev time than any other game this gen so far)is the same as consistantly putting out superior graphical games? BTW, his analogy actually works better than intended. That car in certain situations will kick butt(ie roadtracks with no straightaways), and fail in others.Last-gen, XBOX had better graphics in almost all multi-platform games(Exclusives are all about opinions) becasue it came out 1 year later after PS2 and so did PS3 but how come it dosent have better graphics?
ermacness
first of all, judging by the demo RE5 has the best CHARACTER models, while killzone has better OVERALL graphics..its also a more techincal game. About the Multiplats, last i heard the PS3 was the lead platform for RE5 and knowing capcom, both will be identical, like Dead Space was....also PS3 has its superior multiplats, the recent being Tomb Raider underworld. Fallout 3 on the PS3 also showed BETTER textures and lighting. stop being a fanboy. quite a few Impressions and previews of Killzone 2 state its the best looking console title.[QUOTE="Eyezonmii"][QUOTE="rybe1025"]Keep telling yourself that. RE5 looks better then KZ2 and since the 360 almost always has the better multi then the 360 will prolly have the best version of RE5Al3x_n90
What he said.
And if TC really doesn't know and this thread isn't flamebait, i shall explain.
The ps3 is a powerful yet complicated platform to develop for, but if devs have the right tools and are prepared to work, then the result are quite impressive, hence uncharted2 and KZ2 :) The 360 is more dev friendly. In most cases the lead platform has the slightly superior version of the game :)
Not true and I wish cows would stop trying to hide behind this. Last gen Xbox games looked better nearly universally despite teh PS2 version being the lead nearly universally. This gen when the 360 is the lead platform the original performs better, yet when the PS3 is the lead the "port" still ends up looking as good or better. Only when the PS3 recieves the port is the original consistantly better.[QUOTE="Al3x_n90"][QUOTE="Eyezonmii"] first of all, judging by the demo RE5 has the best CHARACTER models, while killzone has better OVERALL graphics..its also a more techincal game. About the Multiplats, last i heard the PS3 was the lead platform for RE5 and knowing capcom, both will be identical, like Dead Space was....also PS3 has its superior multiplats, the recent being Tomb Raider underworld. Fallout 3 on the PS3 also showed BETTER textures and lighting. stop being a fanboy. quite a few Impressions and previews of Killzone 2 state its the best looking console title. Steppy_76
What he said.
And if TC really doesn't know and this thread isn't flamebait, i shall explain.
The ps3 is a powerful yet complicated platform to develop for, but if devs have the right tools and are prepared to work, then the result are quite impressive, hence uncharted2 and KZ2 :) The 360 is more dev friendly. In most cases the lead platform has the slightly superior version of the game :)
Not true and I wish cows would stop trying to hide behind this. Last gen Xbox games looked better nearly universally despite teh PS2 version being the lead nearly universally. This gen when the 360 is the lead platform the original performs better, yet when the PS3 is the lead the "port" still ends up looking as good or better. Only when the PS3 recieves the port is the original consistantly better.Don't insult me by calling me a cow, lem. Hide behind what? the truth? Burnout paradise, Dead space, gtaIV etc all look or run SLIGHTLY better on the ps3 cuz that's the lead platform. Also concerning mirror's edge, the ps3 is the lead platform but they look the same, they did a really good port job. Devs like valve don't like the ps3 cuz they are lazy and prefer the 360 :P And there are some games that had poor ports, like fallout 3.Most multiplats ook the same, assassin's creed for example :) so please don't spread bs here, since you may be talking to people who actually know a thing or two about these platforms. If the ps3 was the inferior console it couldn't do KZ2 or Uncharted2 graphics. Tech talk is tech talk, but when it really comes to showing something...hmmm
Keep telling yourself that. RE5 looks better then KZ2 and since the 360 almost always has the better multi then the 360 will prolly have the best version of RE5[QUOTE="rybe1025"][QUOTE="WalterPaladines"] I didnt know Crysis was on the 360 :roll: Killzone 2 looks better than anything on consoles /end threadReaperV7
now...i love the resident evil series as well as the killzone series....but saying something like RE5 has better graphics than KZ2...is such a overstatement.
to conclude i will post some vs. pics.
lol, that screen does RE5 NO justice, i have the demo and play it on a 1080p set, and i can tell you right NOW, that RE5 has the best character models ALL AROUND, its VERY detailed. heres what it actually looks like:
Great, now you're going to use a few games and ignore the far greater number that show the opposite(in addition to claiming games for the PS3 that are equal). Burnout is the same other than online implementation, Dead Space looks identical, GTA IV looks different on both, and now with optional installations runs just as well or better. 360 lead platform games looks better more often and sometimes equal. PS3 lead platform games look equal, and sometimes better and sometimes worse. The differences are usually because of HDD installs, which the 360 now can do also. When it comes to "showing something" it's the PS3 that struggles to do so on a consistant basis. There is NO bs in my post(unlike yours). Tech talk proves you wrong, really showing something subjectively shows you wrong. Just imagine what would happen if devs took the same amount of time with the easier to program for 360 instead of being "lazy". Killzone 2 arguably looks better than gears, yet Gears 1 and Gears 2 were both announced, developed, launched, and got DLC in the time it'll take the singular game of Killzone 2. I'd love to see a game with the same budget, workforce, time, AND console maker handholding as Killzone 2 developed for the 360. Steppy_76
too human? also Kz2 has been in developement for a long time and it will deliver
Gears was announced, and deved in about a year and something, what about uncharted and uncharted 2? :lol:
There is no point continuing this conversation, lems are just lems...
[QUOTE="ReaperV7"][QUOTE="rybe1025"]Keep telling yourself that. RE5 looks better then KZ2 and since the 360 almost always has the better multi then the 360 will prolly have the best version of RE5Eyezonmii
now...i love the resident evil series as well as the killzone series....but saying something like RE5 has better graphics than KZ2...is such a overstatement.
to conclude i will post some vs. pics.
lol, that screen does RE5 NO justice, i have the demo and play it on a 1080p set, and i can tell you right NOW, that RE5 has the best character models ALL AROUND, its VERY detailed. heres what it actually looks like:
[QUOTE="Eyezonmii"][QUOTE="ReaperV7"]now...i love the resident evil series as well as the killzone series....but saying something like RE5 has better graphics than KZ2...is such a overstatement.
to conclude i will post some vs. pics.
rybe1025
lol, that screen does RE5 NO justice, i have the demo and play it on a 1080p set, and i can tell you right NOW, that RE5 has the best character models ALL AROUND, its VERY detailed. heres what it actually looks like:
RE5 just amazes me and it is even multiplat. I did not want to qoute all the pics so just left two. For example look at his shirt and how you can see the mesh detail, or his face whiskers, or the hair or even the detail on his gloves and so on. I have not played the demo but watched a few of the demo videos and I was very much wowed by it.Yeah Re5 has incredibely detailed characters :o keva8):oops: (or what's her name )
[QUOTE="Steppy_76"]Great, now you're going to use a few games and ignore the far greater number that show the opposite(in addition to claiming games for the PS3 that are equal). Burnout is the same other than online implementation, Dead Space looks identical, GTA IV looks different on both, and now with optional installations runs just as well or better. 360 lead platform games looks better more often and sometimes equal. PS3 lead platform games look equal, and sometimes better and sometimes worse. The differences are usually because of HDD installs, which the 360 now can do also. When it comes to "showing something" it's the PS3 that struggles to do so on a consistant basis. There is NO bs in my post(unlike yours). Tech talk proves you wrong, really showing something subjectively shows you wrong. Just imagine what would happen if devs took the same amount of time with the easier to program for 360 instead of being "lazy". Killzone 2 arguably looks better than gears, yet Gears 1 and Gears 2 were both announced, developed, launched, and got DLC in the time it'll take the singular game of Killzone 2. I'd love to see a game with the same budget, workforce, time, AND console maker handholding as Killzone 2 developed for the 360. Al3x_n90
too human? also Kz2 has been in developement for a long time and it will deliver
Gears was announced, and deved in about a year and something, what about uncharted and uncharted 2? :lol:
There is no point continuing this conversation, lems are just lems...
Too human? You mean the game that was in development for what 3 platforms and is of a genre that makes graphical comparison difficult to say the least? When was uncharted announced? Sony games get shown so long before they come out it's hard to remember. Let's see when Uncharted 2 releases also. What does uncharted have to do with it anyway? You also using isolated cases rather than the norm to prove your point, when it's the norm and NOT the isolated case the orignal poster was talking about.Oh, I see you finally realized that attempting to use the "lazy" developer ports argument was backfiring eh? So now you are going to try to rewrite history and claim the PS2 games looked the same or better? Sorry, it doesn't work that way. The xbox ports looked better than the PS2 "originals". Even this gen, now that games are using the PS3 as the lead platform we're seeing the 360 "ports" look as good or better than the PS3 originals. The ONLY time ports on the "more powerful platform" are stuggling to look as good as the original is when the ports are on the PS3. Steppy_76LOL. A lot of multiplat titles did look better on the PS2, no denying that. And that includes a certain MGS game.
RE5 and KZ2 are very comparable.
I think people just going to get over the fact that the graphical differences between the two are neglible if the 360 can still run RE2, which is comparable to KZ2.
What is this all about i dont understand how this thread is about at the time which a load of Killzone 2 videos have been shown and they all look amazing also metal gear solid looks amazing and thats already out. i think the ps3 has shown it can hold its own in terms of graphics shoemen22
You act as if the PS3 is the graphical underdog proving itself or something. According to Sony fanboys, it's supposed to blow 360 out of the water.
I believe PS3 has a razor thin edge, but if the 360 can handle RE5, the difference is just not anything near what the difference was last gen. The difference is negligible as I said before.
[QUOTE="Steppy_76"]Oh, I see you finally realized that attempting to use the "lazy" developer ports argument was backfiring eh? So now you are going to try to rewrite history and claim the PS2 games looked the same or better? Sorry, it doesn't work that way. The xbox ports looked better than the PS2 "originals". Even this gen, now that games are using the PS3 as the lead platform we're seeing the 360 "ports" look as good or better than the PS3 originals. The ONLY time ports on the "more powerful platform" are stuggling to look as good as the original is when the ports are on the PS3. metalgear-solidLOL. A lot of multiplat titles did look better on the PS2, no denying that. And that includes a certain MGS game.A "lot"? MGS was one of the VERY few. Name me 10 multiplats that looked better on the PS2 than the xbox.
What is this all about i dont understand how this thread is about at the time which a load of Killzone 2 videos have been shown and they all look amazing also metal gear solid looks amazing and thats already out. i think the ps3 has shown it can hold its own in terms of graphics shoemen22The PS3 was never supposed to just "hold its own". It was supposed to blow it out of the water, and all its managed is to roughly equal. Exclusives trade off being the best graphically between the systems, and multiplats look better on the 360 FAR more often than they look better on the PS3.
[QUOTE="Al3x_n90"][QUOTE="Steppy_76"]Great, now you're going to use a few games and ignore the far greater number that show the opposite(in addition to claiming games for the PS3 that are equal). Burnout is the same other than online implementation, Dead Space looks identical, GTA IV looks different on both, and now with optional installations runs just as well or better. 360 lead platform games looks better more often and sometimes equal. PS3 lead platform games look equal, and sometimes better and sometimes worse. The differences are usually because of HDD installs, which the 360 now can do also. When it comes to "showing something" it's the PS3 that struggles to do so on a consistant basis. There is NO bs in my post(unlike yours). Tech talk proves you wrong, really showing something subjectively shows you wrong. Just imagine what would happen if devs took the same amount of time with the easier to program for 360 instead of being "lazy". Killzone 2 arguably looks better than gears, yet Gears 1 and Gears 2 were both announced, developed, launched, and got DLC in the time it'll take the singular game of Killzone 2. I'd love to see a game with the same budget, workforce, time, AND console maker handholding as Killzone 2 developed for the 360. Steppy_76
too human? also Kz2 has been in developement for a long time and it will deliver
Gears was announced, and deved in about a year and something, what about uncharted and uncharted 2? :lol:
There is no point continuing this conversation, lems are just lems...
Too human? You mean the game that was in development for what 3 platforms and is of a genre that makes graphical comparison difficult to say the least? When was uncharted announced? Sony games get shown so long before they come out it's hard to remember. Let's see when Uncharted 2 releases also. What does uncharted have to do with it anyway? You also using isolated cases rather than the norm to prove your point, when it's the norm and NOT the isolated case the orignal poster was talking about.No i mean the game that was in development for like what did they say? 10 years or what? :lol: Uncharted2 saw it's first trailer a couple of weeks ago and it's due to release in 2009 :| Sony announced its big games like KZ2 or MGS4 a long time ago, but MGS4 delivered, we'll see about kz2. Also i think uncharted released in less than a year from when it was announced.
I'm proving you wrong, you're saying devs need 4 years like for kz2 to achieve such great graphics, and point out gears which was released in terms of about a year from when it was announced(and had great graphics) , i'm pointing out uncharted, great graphics as well, in less of a year(that proves they don't need much dev time to achieve great graphics) .
Isolated cases...right...Please stop talking bs, i don't like to argue with faboys but this time i'm bored...anyway whatever you say bud.
It was? I think it does. Compare any game to MGS4 or Killzone2 ( upon release and tell me they dont) MGS4 has what at least 16x AA on hat game at those resolutions ... thats insane, absolutely 0 jaggies anywhere ... ya you can have all these nice graphics but if it looks like your playing on razor sharp edges all over its going to look marred.ColdfireTrilogy
Have you seen the shadows? jaggy as hell
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