PS3.5: Sony Patent Shows Plans To Increase PS3s Power With External Processor

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#1 mrmcygan
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http://playstationlifestyle.net/2010/12/09/ps3-5-sony-patent-shows-plans-to-increase-ps3s-power-with-external-processor/

The PlayStation 3 was a massive investment for many gamers, especially for those that bought the console at launch. For Sony, the costs were even higher, with billions spent on development, and more spent on selling the console at a loss. So its no wonder the company wants to extend the PS3′s life-cycle, and thus make profit on the platform. Now, a Sony patent has hinted that they will release external processors to make the console even more powerful – without the need for a PS4.

The benefits of an upgrade to the PS3 are obvious – allowing for a more powerful machine, without having to pay so much for a new console. However, the "PS3 External Processor" has its drawbacks: it wouldn't give consumers the same experience as a full new console, and would run the risk of both fragmenting and confusing the market.

The patent – from Sony Computer Entertainment Inc. Tokyo, JP – explains the reasoning behind the processing peripheral:

In recent years, there has been an insatiable desire for faster computer processing data throughputs because cutting-edge computer applications involve real-time, multimedia functionality. Graphics applications are among those that place the highest demands on a processing system because they require such vast numbers of data accesses, data computations, and data manipulations in relatively short periods of time to achieve desirable visual results. These applications require extremely fast processing speeds, such as many thousands of megabits of data per second. While some processing systems employ a single processor to achieve fast processing speeds, others are implemented utilizing multi-processor architectures. In multi-processor systems, a plurality of sub-processors can operate in parallel (or at least in concert) to achieve desired processing results.

Coming to the conclusion that:

Accordingly, there are needs in the art for new methods and apparatus for interconnecting one or more multiprocessor systems with one or more external devices to achieve higher processing capabilities.

The patent is shown in a picture:

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The dotted area 500, is the external processor, with the patent explaining that the memory it shares (514) with the internal processor could be DRAM, MRAM or SRAM, among others:

PE 500 is closely associated with a shared (main) memory 514 through a high bandwidth memory connection 516. Although the memory 514 preferably is a dynamic random access memory (DRAM), the memory 514 could be implemented using other means, e.g., as a static random access memory (SRAM), a magnetic random access memory (MRAM), an optical memory, a holographic memory, etc.

The patent expressly states that several external processors may be used:

In accordance with an alternative embodiment, two processor elements may be cascaded by each employing its respective BIC in a coherent symmetric multiprocessor (SMP) interface (or BIF) configuration. The coherent SMP interface (BIF) of each processing element is coupled to one another to set up a coherent interface there between.

The patent was filed this August and only recently published, showing that any plans are most likely in the early stages.

Last year, EA's Chief Creative Officer, Rich Hilleman, told VentureBeat how he "expected we'll see a PlayStation 3.5 before we see a PlayStation 4 and an Xbox 560 before we see an Xbox 720," "

Would you be interested in purchasing an "External Processor"? Let us know in the comments below.

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#2 Diviniuz
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That is neato

and ib4thepowerofthecellisexpanding

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#3 ActicEdge
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I don't know if that's a good idea

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#4 UCF_Knight
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Ew. Do not want that. Reminds me of that expansion thingy for the N64.
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#5 Teuf_
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That bit about "PS3.5" is complete speculation. In fact it doesn't make any sense, considering the PS3 doesn't have any high-bandwidth external ports.

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#6 KBFloYd
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they need to lower the price... not make it higher...

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#7 linkin_guy109
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sega proved once before that trying to improve a consoles power and delaying its death is a very bad idea

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#8 Rahnyc4
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lol more pointless crap from sony, good god.
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#9 Kingpin0114
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Bad idea Sony.

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#10 davidkamayor
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That bit about "PS3.5" is complete speculation. In fact it doesn't make any sense, considering the PS3 doesn't have any high-bandwidth external ports.

Teufelhuhn

Yeah that's what I was thinking too.

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#11 NintendoNite
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how much would it cost? $500?
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#12 UCF_Knight
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lol more pointless crap from sony, good god. Rahnyc4
What was all the other pointless crap?
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#13 KBFloYd
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[QUOTE="Rahnyc4"]lol more pointless crap from sony, good god. UCF_Knight
What was all the other pointless crap?

Move :lol:

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#14 johny300
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Lol what does this mean? to long to read.
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#15 Anastasia1997
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Please dont do this...I HATE these kind of things. Id suggest for SONY to work on a PS4 model with a much more versatile cell processor capable of reading much easier coding and more efficency...Plus with an awesome GPU and plenty of RAM

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#16 deactivated-5cf4b2c19c4ab
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PS3, trying to become more and more like a proprietary PC.

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#17 BuryMe
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Strange idea.

Peripherals never tend to do so well, and we're a fair way into this generation. I would have thought they'd be putting more resources into their next platform

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#18 johny300
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Please dont do this...I HATE these kind of things. Id suggest for SONY to work on a PS4 model with a much more versatile cell processor capable of reading much easier coding and more efficency...Plus with an awesome GPU and plenty of RAM

Anastasia1997
I agree with this :).
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#19 lx_theo
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Hmmmm.... need more info than what I can get from the 5 second skim I did to make a goo judgement on this.

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#20 Bus-A-Bus
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If they really did that it would prove that:

1.PS3 and Sonys "theory" about 10 year old slow burning plan will fail without adding more power to actually push them above competition.

2.PS3 is maxed and they dont have money to go into new console year or two from now.

3.They are crazy.

Yea...its not gonna happen.No freakin way its gonna happen.

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#21 Anastasia1997
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[QUOTE="johny300"][QUOTE="Anastasia1997"]

Please dont do this...I HATE these kind of things. Id suggest for SONY to work on a PS4 model with a much more versatile cell processor capable of reading much easier coding and more efficency...Plus with an awesome GPU and plenty of RAM

I agree with this :).

I mean besides, the best looking games on consoles are more than enough as of now, just wait about 3-4 years and ship the PS4 or Xbox 720
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#22 darth-pyschosis
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Why don't they just swallow their pride and make a good business decision, release a PS4 with essentially overclocked PS3 hardware (like Cube to Wii jump) and sell it at launch for $200-$250 at a profit instead of at a loss?

Seriously, they said they didn't do the whole PS2.5 thing, but had they done that, maybe they'd be on top.

I mean I don't even think all this "power" I have in my 360 and PS3 have been really used a whole lot this gen, at least in ways I cared about

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If they really did that it would prove that:

1.PS3 and Sonys "theory" about 10 year old slow burning plan will fail without adding more power to actually push them above competition.

2.PS3 is maxed and they dont have money to go into new console year or two from now.

3.They are crazy.

Yea...its not gonna happen.No freakin way its gonna happen.

Bus-A-Bus
teh cell is maxed!!! oh noes :o :P
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#24 Vader993
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[QUOTE="Anastasia1997"]

Please dont do this...I HATE these kind of things. Id suggest for SONY to work on a PS4 model with a much more versatile cell processor capable of reading much easier coding and more efficency...Plus with an awesome GPU and plenty of RAM

johny300

I agree with this :).

let's hope this a ploy to trick the competition:P

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Bad idea, really bad idea.

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#26 lbjkurono23
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[QUOTE="johny300"][QUOTE="Anastasia1997"]

Please dont do this...I HATE these kind of things. Id suggest for SONY to work on a PS4 model with a much more versatile cell processor capable of reading much easier coding and more efficency...Plus with an awesome GPU and plenty of RAM

Vader993

I agree with this :).

let's hope this a ploy to trick the competition:P

Trick them in to what exactly? :P
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#27 Duckyindiana
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God i hope its not true, if it is are we going to end up with new games not working unless you buy the add on!?
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#28 lbjkurono23
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God i hope its not true, if it is are we going to end up with new games not working unless you buy the add on!?Duckyindiana
I believe so... or at the least they will be running in lower settings.
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#29 ktseymour
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PS3, trying to become more and more like a proprietary PC.

ferret-gamer

Ha, not sure what you mean here. There Is nothing proprietary about PC's :|

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#30 JustusCF
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8AyVh1_vWYQ

Bad idea imo.

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#31 johny300
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[QUOTE="Anastasia1997"][QUOTE="johny300"][QUOTE="Anastasia1997"]

Please dont do this...I HATE these kind of things. Id suggest for SONY to work on a PS4 model with a much more versatile cell processor capable of reading much easier coding and more efficency...Plus with an awesome GPU and plenty of RAM

I agree with this :).

I mean besides, the best looking games on consoles are more than enough as of now, just wait about 3-4 years and ship the PS4 or Xbox 720

Yup i would like that.
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#32 kuraimen
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I don't think this is a good idea at all. A thing like that won't sell very well.
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#33 Vader993
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[QUOTE="Vader993"]

[QUOTE="johny300"] I agree with this :).lbjkurono23

let's hope this a ploy to trick the competition:P

Trick them in to what exactly? :P

i have no idea actually:lol:

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#34 johny300
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[QUOTE="johny300"][QUOTE="Anastasia1997"]

let's hope this a ploy to trick the competition:P

Vader993

Trick them in to what exactly? :P

i have no idea actually:lol:

Lol hehe :lol: good one :P.
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#35 Funconsole
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If this is actually real, it's not gonna be successful until atleast 3 years after launch since EVERY ps3 owner would need it to be able to benefit otherwise games designed specifically for this won't run on older models
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#36 mattuk69
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Dont make sence to increase the power of the most powerful bit of hardware in the PS3. If they were to do this which i doubt. They should add a better GPU and more ram.

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#37 lbjkurono23
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I'm done trying to understand this move :P
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#38 Masculus
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They are one step from becoming a PC. If i were to have to pay for external hardware improvements i'd rather buy a new graphics card.

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#39 NVIDIATI
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So maybe this is what they meant when they said we'd get 4D 1080p 120fps :P

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#40 juliankennedy23
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When did Sega buy Sony????

I like this idea but history shows this doesn't work all that well.

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#41 kuraimen
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Ok the reasoning behind the patent makes me think that Sony is aiming this for the scientific computing crowd and not necessarily for gamers. That will make much more sense.
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#42 johny300
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So maybe this is what they meant when they said we'd get 4D 1080p 120fps :P

NVIDIATI
Nope that will be for ps4 lol :P.
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#43 DudeNtheRoom
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So does this mean console owners are going to have to do the dreaded upgrade that supposedly happnes so often on the PC?
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#44 hrt_rulz01
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Not sure about this... I don't want PS4 anytime soon, but I don't want an add-on to my PS3 either.
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[QUOTE="UCF_Knight"][QUOTE="Rahnyc4"]lol more pointless crap from sony, good god. KBFloYd

What was all the other pointless crap?

Move :lol:

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#46 supa_badman
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Have console add-ons ever done well?

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#47 lowe0
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I'll pass on the new 32X, thanks. That said, as has already been pointed out, it's simply not possible - there's nowhere to plug the damn thing in!
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#48 leadernator
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When did Sega buy Sony????

I like this idea but history shows this doesn't work all that well.

juliankennedy23

NOT TRUE.

Wii motion-plus pretty much is the same concept... Kinect and Move are pretty close to those lines as well.

With the right functionality of this product (Make sure games look SIGNIFICANTLY better), as well as the right marketing, this could work great for Sony.

They would probably release a new PS3 slim, with that capability built into it... and for the rest of us with older models, would have to purchase an add-on only. C'mon guys, it's a pretty good idea. The sega 32x hardly did anything noticeable for its games, plus the market wasn't nearly as big that time.

The economy is different as well. At this point, consumers will go for the cheaper route. Also developers are already struggling with their budgets in gaming. Making games for our generation is expensive... may more expensive than last gens (which probably explains why Japanese developers decided to support the Wii and DS more).

I hope Sony does this. I don't think their console is maxed-out yet, but as all of us forum nerds know, the console won't be able to do a crysis-level game. Forget the haters... I welcome this.

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#49 SPBoss
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Bad idea imo, games would have to be developed for both ps3 original and ps3+external processor models. It would be too much work for devs
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#50 gamebreakerz__
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Bad idea. That is all.