ps3-s only salvation:

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[QUOTE="Dualshockin"][QUOTE="ALCATRAZZ3"]None of those games have been hyped up or are as anticipated as MGS4... at least around here in the states. Everyones waiting on MGS4. sorryDualshockin

not really because the states are the no 1 gaming market

Atari... ?

and you're forgetting the ps2 sold the most at $199 USD or lower..

a price the ps3 will never see..;)

[QUOTE="Dualshockin"][QUOTE="tango90101"]the engine would be "teh cell"...tango90101

that make no sense..

and engine POWERS something..

bluray is a storage medium..

man...it's bad when a lemming has to school a cow on the ps3.. :lol:

[QUOTE="ALCATRAZZ3"]Dude i'm not here to bash but I swear if MGS4 were to be released on the 360, It would be a wrap for the PS3. Sooo many gamers that want PS3's are waiting for that game to be released. Why do you think sony is choking Konami so hard? I beieve Konami wants that game to be multi platform but Sony is paying them hard cash for exclusive rightsDualshockin

the ps2 had more and better exclusives to wait for than the ps3. plus the xbox was the 1st gming machine from Microsoft so it was still trying to build it's rep. If you don't believe me then go to your neighborhood gaming store, You people don't realize how many prople are only considering PS3's cause of MGS4. Ask a cow what game is worth buying a PS3 for. I betover 60% of cows would say MGS4 1st

[QUOTE="Dualshockin"][QUOTE="tango90101"]the engine would be "teh cell"...tango90101

that make no sense..

and engine POWERS something..

bluray is a storage medium..

man...it's bad when a lemming has to school a cow on the ps3.. :lol:

[QUOTE="Dualshockin"]Tell me,what console has won a console war without succeeding in Europe and Japan?You seem to ignore the other territories of gaming,the one's that bought over 25 million Ps2's each last gen.tango90101

[QUOTE="ALCATRAZZ3"]Dude i'm not here to bash but I swear if MGS4 were to be released on the 360, It would be a wrap for the PS3. Sooo many gamers that want PS3's are waiting for that game to be released. Why do you think sony is choking Konami so hard? I beieve Konami wants that game to be multi platform but Sony is paying them hard cash for exclusive rightsDualshockin

the ps2 had a year's head start, many years of branding and an established ps customer base..

glad the TC doesn't work 4 sony...

all the features u would cut out are the exact reasons i bought a Ps3, basically u turned it into a core 360?!?

i think the ps3's doing fine its been out a short time (under 3 months in the uk!) the main thing is its expensive but if u want a price cut wait for it don't say they should gimp the system, u'll be missing out otherwise!

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[QUOTE="Dualshockin"][QUOTE="tango90101"]the engine would be "teh cell"...jack_russel

that make no sense..

and engine POWERS something..

bluray is a storage medium..

man...it's bad when a lemming has to school a cow on the ps3.. :lol:

[QUOTE="dmaximum"][QUOTE="machitocaliente"]

[QUOTE="dmaximum"]I finally figured out why there are so many PS3 bashing threads. They really want the PS3 but hate the price of it,otherwise they wouldn't care. I have mine so I could care less about a price reduction. So yeah, good luck with that.machitocaliente

NOT REALLY. HONESTLY I DONT WANT ONE. I DONT WANT A PS3. DONT WANT A 360. DONT WANT A Wii

( only if they make a new res4 type of game i would pick a wii) Im a pc gamer and i have all i want.

its good to have competition. i dont want only 1 console to win

[QUOTE="ALCATRAZZ3"][QUOTE="jack_russel"][QUOTE="ALCATRAZZ3"][QUOTE="Dualshockin"][QUOTE="ALCATRAZZ3"]

[QUOTE="dmaximum"][QUOTE="ALCATRAZZ3"]Metal Gear Solid 4 is the PS3's only salvation. If that game were to lose exclusive rights, the PS3 would face extintionjack_russel

I don't need to provide you with any details but honestly more than half the people that want to purchase a PS3 are only waiting till Metal gear Solid 4 is released. Yeah I don't have a poll to go with those numbers but I believe that is truth. If MGS4 were to ever be released the same time on the 360, the PS3 would be finished

None of those games have been hyped up or are as anticipated as MGS4... at least around here in the states. Everyones waiting on MGS4. sorry

it doesn't discredit azny other titles. Same with Halo. If halo 3 were to be released on the PS3, the 360 would be in massive trouble. MGS4 and Halo 3 are system sellers. If you cannot see the impact MGS4 would have on the PS3 if it were to be multiplatform then you are blind

and you see how the ps3 isn't selling cause it lost those titles right? Why do you think they lost those titles in the 1st place? because it is not selling. if it was those titles would be exclusives. I don't know about japan and europe, but here in the states if MGS4 were to be released the same day on the 360, the PS3 would be finished

[QUOTE="tango90101"][QUOTE="Dualshockin"]Tell me,what console has won a console war without succeeding in Europe and Japan?You seem to ignore the other territories of gaming,the one's that bought over 25 million Ps2's each last gen.Dualshockin

what does it matter....

fact is; you don't need Japan...

EU? yes... definately.. but japan..not really.

want proof? the 360 is #1 w/o significant japanes consumer interest... ;)

why did you ignore the $199 price point fact?

[QUOTE="machitocaliente"]

[QUOTE="dmaximum"]I finally figured out why there are so many PS3 bashing threads. They really want the PS3 but hate the price of it,otherwise they wouldn't care. I have mine so I could care less about a price reduction. So yeah, good luck with that.Dualshockin

NOT REALLY. HONESTLY I DONT WANT ONE. I DONT WANT A PS3. DONT WANT A 360. DONT WANT A Wii

( only if they make a new res4 type of game i would pick a wii) Im a pc gamer and i have all i want.

THE THING IS... PC IS MORE THAN A GAMING PLATAFORM. SO ITS NOT REALLT A PROBLEM IF ITS EXPENSIVE. CONSOLES ARE NOT REALLY ANECESSITY. + THE GAMES YOU LISTED DSNT APPEAL TO ME AT ALL. APART FROM CRYSIS ( NOT CRAZY ABOUT IT) IM WAITING FOR BIOSHOCK, HELLGATE, OVERLORD, FALLAOUT3, HL2 ORANGE, LOKI, a bunch of Unreal Engine 3.0 shooters, etc

the ps2 had a year's head start, many years of branding and an established ps customer base..tango90101

[QUOTE="tango90101"]

[QUOTE="Dualshockin"][QUOTE="tango90101"]the engine would be "teh cell"...jack_russel

that make no sense..

and engine POWERS something..

bluray is a storage medium..

man...it's bad when a lemming has to school a cow on the ps3.. :lol:

the power supply would be the battery, plugs and distributor... :)

[QUOTE="tango90101"]the ps2 had a year's head start, many years of branding and an established ps customer base..Dualshockin

it did last gen..

and the way the 360 is beating the junk out of the ps3, it looks like it it this gen too...;)

[QUOTE="Dualshockin"][QUOTE="tango90101"][QUOTE="Dualshockin"]Tell me,what console has won a console war without succeeding in Europe and Japan?You seem to ignore the other territories of gaming,the one's that bought over 25 million Ps2's each last gen.tango90101

what does it matter....

fact is; you don't need Japan...

EU? yes... definately.. but japan..not really.

want proof? the 360 is #1 w/o significant japanes consumer interest... ;)

why did you ignore the $199 price point fact?

[QUOTE="Dualshockin"][QUOTE="tango90101"]the ps2 had a year's head start, many years of branding and an established ps customer base..tango90101

it did last gen..

and the way the 360 is beating the junk out of the ps3, it looks like it it this gen too...;)

[QUOTE="jack_russel"][QUOTE="ALCATRAZZ3"][QUOTE="jack_russel"][QUOTE="ALCATRAZZ3"][QUOTE="Dualshockin"][QUOTE="ALCATRAZZ3"]

[QUOTE="dmaximum"][QUOTE="ALCATRAZZ3"]Metal Gear Solid 4 is the PS3's only salvation. If that game were to lose exclusive rights, the PS3 would face extintionALCATRAZZ3

I don't need to provide you with any details but honestly more than half the people that want to purchase a PS3 are only waiting till Metal gear Solid 4 is released. Yeah I don't have a poll to go with those numbers but I believe that is truth. If MGS4 were to ever be released the same time on the 360, the PS3 would be finished

None of those games have been hyped up or are as anticipated as MGS4... at least around here in the states. Everyones waiting on MGS4. sorry

it doesn't discredit azny other titles. Same with Halo. If halo 3 were to be released on the PS3, the 360 would be in massive trouble. MGS4 and Halo 3 are system sellers. If you cannot see the impact MGS4 would have on the PS3 if it were to be multiplatform then you are blind

and you see how the ps3 isn't selling cause it lost those titles right? Why do you think they lost those titles in the 1st place? because it is not selling. if it was those titles would be exclusives. I don't know about japan and europe, but here in the states if MGS4 were to be released the same day on the 360, the PS3 would be finished

THE THING IS... PC IS MORE THAN A GAMING PLATAFORM. SO ITS NOT REALLT A PROBLEM IF ITS EXPENSIVE. CONSOLES ARE NOT REALLY ANECESSITY. + THE GAMES YOU LISTED DSNT APPEAL TO ME AT ALL. APART FROM CRYSIS ( NOT CRAZY ABOUT IT) IM WAITING FOR BIOSHOCK, HELLGATE, OVERLORD, FALLAOUT3, HL2 ORANGE, LOKI, a bunch of Unreal Engine 3.0 shooters, etcmachitocaliente

Honestly both the PS3 and the X360 are selling poorly. One title would not make that much of a difference. It would also be released on the PS3 first then come to the X360 possibly a year later. So like I said it wouldn't make much of a difference.

You lost all credibility by the time you got to #3. :P

[QUOTE="machitocaliente"]THE THING IS... PC IS MORE THAN A GAMING PLATAFORM. SO ITS NOT REALLT A PROBLEM IF ITS EXPENSIVE. CONSOLES ARE NOT REALLY ANECESSITY. + THE GAMES YOU LISTED DSNT APPEAL TO ME AT ALL. APART FROM CRYSIS ( NOT CRAZY ABOUT IT) IM WAITING FOR BIOSHOCK, HELLGATE, OVERLORD, FALLAOUT3, HL2 ORANGE, LOKI, a bunch of Unreal Engine 3.0 shooters, etcDualshockin

[QUOTE="tango90101"]

[QUOTE="Dualshockin"][QUOTE="tango90101"]the ps2 had a year's head start, many years of branding and an established ps customer base..Dualshockin

it did last gen..

and the way the 360 is beating the junk out of the ps3, it looks like it it this gen too...;)

good point..

proven by sony's massive #1 position last gen to faaaaaaaaaaaaar last place this gen.... ;)

didn't the atari get beaten by the NES? jack_russel

[QUOTE="Dualshockin"][QUOTE="machitocaliente"]

[QUOTE="Dualshockin"][QUOTE="machitocaliente"] 3) NO BLURAY DRIVEjack_russel

no. I honestly believe bluray is a huge anchor around Sony's neck

rigth ow ps3 consumer base is the smallest of any generation.it dsnt matter if they feel alienated. ( + they wont, they still have their elite ps3) what it matters is the rest of the word that rigth now seems to ignore sony.

[QUOTE="tango90101"]

[QUOTE="Dualshockin"][QUOTE="tango90101"][QUOTE="Dualshockin"]Tell me,what console has won a console war without succeeding in Europe and Japan?You seem to ignore the other territories of gaming,the one's that bought over 25 million Ps2's each last gen.Dualshockin

what does it matter....

fact is; you don't need Japan...

EU? yes... definately.. but japan..not really.

want proof? the 360 is #1 w/o significant japanes consumer interest... ;)

why did you ignore the $199 price point fact?

I was asking.. hence the question mark... :roll:

how isit flawed EXACTLY...

now about that $199 point...

[QUOTE="Dualshockin"] You should know,the gaming business is very elastic.tango90101

good point..

proven by sony's massive #1 position last gen to faaaaaaaaaaaaar last place this gen.... ;)

[QUOTE="jack_russel"]didn't the atari get beaten by the NES? Dualshockin

BUT they were kings...if only for a day...

w/o a ton of japanese and EU support....

face it; your idea that japan is paramount is flawed..

the 360 widens their gap over the ps3 everyday....WITHOUT japan..;)

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[QUOTE="ALCATRAZZ3"]Metal Gear Solid 4 is the PS3's only salvation. If that game were to lose exclusive rights, the PS3 would face extintionDualshockin

only the hardcore console gamer cares about Metal Gear Solid 4. that game dsnt change nothing. sony is in big, big, big trouble. wake up.

sony is in trouble means ps3 is in trouble. of course they will survice.

[QUOTE="Dualshockin"][QUOTE="machitocaliente"]THE THING IS... PC IS MORE THAN A GAMING PLATAFORM. SO ITS NOT REALLT A PROBLEM IF ITS EXPENSIVE. CONSOLES ARE NOT REALLY ANECESSITY. + THE GAMES YOU LISTED DSNT APPEAL TO ME AT ALL. APART FROM CRYSIS ( NOT CRAZY ABOUT IT) IM WAITING FOR BIOSHOCK, HELLGATE, OVERLORD, FALLAOUT3, HL2 ORANGE, LOKI, a bunch of Unreal Engine 3.0 shooters, etcjack_russel

800 x 600 does not look good on a HDTV. No way in hell.

Sony is stuck with Blu-ray.

SpecialForcesOp

+ 2XQ AA ;)

[QUOTE="Dualshockin"][QUOTE="machitocaliente"]

[QUOTE="ALCATRAZZ3"]Metal Gear Solid 4 is the PS3's only salvation. If that game were to lose exclusive rights, the PS3 would face extintionmachitocaliente

only the hardcore console gamer cares about Metal Gear Solid 4. that game dsnt change nothing. sony is in big, big, big trouble. wake up.

sony is in trouble means ps3 is in trouble. of course they will survice.

:roll: thank you president of sony.

[QUOTE="Dualshockin"][QUOTE="jack_russel"]didn't the atari get beaten by the NES? tango90101

BUT they were kings...if only for a day...

w/o a ton of japanese and EU support....

face it; your idea that japan is paramount is flawed..

the 360 widens their gap over the ps3 everyday....WITHOUT japan..;)

[QUOTE="machitocaliente"]THE THING IS... PC IS MORE THAN A GAMING PLATAFORM. SO ITS NOT REALLT A PROBLEM IF ITS EXPENSIVE. CONSOLES ARE NOT REALLY ANECESSITY. + THE GAMES YOU LISTED DSNT APPEAL TO ME AT ALL. APART FROM CRYSIS ( NOT CRAZY ABOUT IT) IM WAITING FOR BIOSHOCK, HELLGATE, OVERLORD, FALLAOUT3, HL2 ORANGE, LOKI, a bunch of Unreal Engine 3.0 shooters, etcDualshockin

pc gaming is dead? what are you using to post that -BEEP- ? pc will always be there. consoles come and go. PC stays. thats why pc gaming is atemporal and knows no limit.

That is the worst idea ever. You suggest taking everything that makes the system worthwhile out and lowering the price. People would just buy the other two systems then anyway which negates the changes. You even made the system require lower than 720p which is a joke. Coldplay07

i dont explect you to understand.i believe your priorities are wrong. they dont reflect what most people want. 2 play games.

as simple as that. you shoudent have to buy a special cable for that. you shudent have to buy a new format, a brand new

and ultra $$$$ monitor. im taking all the good parts of the ps3 and removing the filler. this is not the core . ( the core 360 dsnt even have storage, not 2 mention flash based storage) and what makes a ps3 a ps3? the games.

[QUOTE="jack_russel"][QUOTE="Dualshockin"][QUOTE="machitocaliente"]THE THING IS... PC IS MORE THAN A GAMING PLATAFORM. SO ITS NOT REALLT A PROBLEM IF ITS EXPENSIVE. CONSOLES ARE NOT REALLY ANECESSITY. + THE GAMES YOU LISTED DSNT APPEAL TO ME AT ALL. APART FROM CRYSIS ( NOT CRAZY ABOUT IT) IM WAITING FOR BIOSHOCK, HELLGATE, OVERLORD, FALLAOUT3, HL2 ORANGE, LOKI, a bunch of Unreal Engine 3.0 shooters, etcDualshockin

Let's see how well the Wii will be selling this time next year,I believe all Mario games will be out,Metroid,as well as Zelda. GT5,is what will reconfirm the fact that Sony are without a doubt the most powerful and competitive videogame company to date.Dualshockin

Gran Turismo 5 :roll:

yeh right....a litte more faith than a racing game i think.

If that was the original PS3 I wouldnt have bought it.SeanDiff

If that was the original PS3 I wouldnt have bought it.SeanDiff

good sign

Let's see how well the Wii will be selling this time next year,I believe all Mario games will be out,Metroid,as well as Zelda. GT5,is what will reconfirm the fact that Sony are without a doubt the most powerful and competitive videogame company to date.Dualshockin

lol

i don't know who in the Sony marketing dept thought the casual consumer would know anything about blu-ray or how it's different from standard dvd, ask most people out there they dont know wtf 1080p and 50gb dual layer disc even means, that being said, im totally satisfied with my ps3 it has all the multimedia features, hd disc format and a gaming console(i can wait for the games) all in one. People shouldnt be so quick to bash it without doing some research as to what you're getting into for $600.mmirza23

ist a good value. if you want a bluray player that can also play some games. the thing is . most people dont want a $600 gaming console.

If that was the original PS3 I wouldnt have bought it.SeanDiff

lol. I feel the same about the Wii. If it were $600 I definitely wouldn't have bought it. No way in hell am I that crazy or nerdish. The world is not ready for HD gaming. How can it be ready if HDTVs are not in the majority of households yet??? How about you wait until they are and then you come out with your HD + "HD/blueray"DVD console.