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#101 deactivated-5fc147aeeb0aa
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[QUOTE="sherman-tank1"]

[QUOTE="xhawk27"]

Ok I thought pay to play online is a rip-off! :lol:

Shielder7

It is. People are bringing up the value because of the deals but some of us just want to play online. So frustrating.

That's pretty much my boat I don't care about the deals and prefer physical copies even without my data cap, lucky not everything will be behind a PSN+ pay wall and will be left up to the publishers which means just EA and probably Activision. It will be interesting to see what publishers do especially those in direct competition with other similar games coming out as most people will pick the one without the PSN pay wall.

I sure hope so. Activision and EA will def use PSN+ along with Sony's companies.

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#102 lhughey
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The only people who are voting that they wont get PSN+ are the people who made a ridiculous fuss about XBL. But they'll be getting it anyway.
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#103 Bigboi500
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The only people who are voting that they wont get PSN+ are the people who made a ridiculous fuss about XBL. But they'll be getting it anyway.lhughey
Some people don't care about online play. I don't know why this is so hard to understand.

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#104 Shielder7
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The only people who are voting that they wont get PSN+ are the people who made a ridiculous fuss about XBL. But they'll be getting it anyway.lhughey
I don't use online that much to justify paying for it and if there is a game I'll definitely know I'll want to play online like Dark Souls and they decide to put it behind a PSN pay wall I'll just get the PC version.
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#105 Netherscourge
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Where are all the people who claimed "You already pay for internet, Microsoft is ripping you off!"  They seem to be pretty quiet about online play being restricted to paying members.

mynamesdenvrmax
Well, what choice does anyone have? The greedy creeps at Microsoft have made online console gaming a subscription model so now we have no choice but to pay for the garbage Internet tollbooth fee. Doesn't mean we have to LIE and say we like it like the BS Xbox Live freaks do.
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#106 Shielder7
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[QUOTE="mynamesdenvrmax"]

Where are all the people who claimed "You already pay for internet, Microsoft is ripping you off!"  They seem to be pretty quiet about online play being restricted to paying members.

Netherscourge
Well, what choice does anyone have? The greedy creeps at Microsoft have made online console gaming a subscription model so now we have no choice but to pay for the garbage Internet tollbooth fee. Doesn't mean we have to LIE and say we like it like the BS Xbox Live freaks do.

Yeah I'm not happy about it at all and I hope most games won't be behind a PSN pay wall.
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#107 moistsandwich
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I'm getting PSN+ for sure, Ive paid for Live for the past 6 years, time to show Sony some love. Heil68

This for me as well.... only its been 8 years for me.

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#108 PAL360
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I'm getting PSN+

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#109 Deadman_est1982
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Whenever I decide to get a PS4, I'll pick up PSN+. I don't care about multiplayer. I just like the benefits from the service.

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#110 josephl64
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[QUOTE="15strong"]

[QUOTE="sherman-tank1"]It is. People are bringing up the value because of the deals but some of us just want to play online. So frusterating.

sherman-tank1

Is it worth it to you if the online infastructure is better?

Not even close. I never had any complaints with PSN because I never have asked much of it.

same, I was perfectly fine with the PSN that we had to be honest
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#111 xhawk27
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[QUOTE="sherman-tank1"]

[QUOTE="15strong"]

Is it worth it to you if the online infastructure is better?

josephl64

Not even close. I never had any complaints with PSN because I never have asked much of it.

same, I was perfectly fine with the PSN that we had to be honest

No cross-game chat, no servers closing down because they are not popular after a couple of years. 

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#112 josephl64
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[QUOTE="josephl64"][QUOTE="sherman-tank1"]Not even close. I never had any complaints with PSN because I never have asked much of it.

xhawk27

same, I was perfectly fine with the PSN that we had to be honest

No cross-game chat, no servers closing down because they are not popular after a couple of years. 

I couldn't' care less about cross-game chat, and did they really say that about servers being up indefinitely? Either way it's not worth the cost to me
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#113 starwolf474
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Right now, I'm leaning towards "no" because I will be buying all multi-platform games on Xbox to play on the superior Xbox Live online service. It would take at least two PS4 exclusive multi-player games for me to subscribe to PSN+, and as of right now, the future PS4 exclusive games that I will be interested in are single player experiences.
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#114 blackace
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I'll be getting PS+ before the PS4 launches. Probably in Aug. I already have XBL, so it's not a big deal to me.
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#115 shinko28
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I've been paying paying MS for XBL. This new gen I am jumping ship and paying for psn+
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#116 josephl64
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Right now, I'm leaning towards "no" because I will be buying all multi-platform games on Xbox to play on the superior Xbox Live online service. It would take at least two PS4 exclusive multi-player games for me to subscribe to PSN+, and as of right now, the future PS4 exclusive games that I will be interested in are single player experiences.starwolf474
in all fairness how do you know it's superior until you've tried the new psn+?
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#117 PinkiePirate
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Already have it.

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#118 Shielder7
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[QUOTE="josephl64"][QUOTE="sherman-tank1"]Not even close. I never had any complaints with PSN because I never have asked much of it.

xhawk27

same, I was perfectly fine with the PSN that we had to be honest

No cross-game chat, no servers closing down because they are not popular after a couple of years. 

Never had a need for cross game chat and never had a problem with servers closing down because I don't buy EA games anymore.
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#119 AzatiS
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Most likely this gen ill go with PS4 but i refuse to pay for PSN+ ... The good thing is i want PS4 for mostly single player games so that wont affect me really bad
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#120 AzatiS
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Right now, I'm leaning towards "no" because I will be buying all multi-platform games on Xbox to play on the superior Xbox Live online service. It would take at least two PS4 exclusive multi-player games for me to subscribe to PSN+, and as of right now, the future PS4 exclusive games that I will be interested in are single player experiences.starwolf474
The only really superior online service i know called PC GAMING!So my multis goin PC all the way. There is nothing better than PC when it comes to Online gaming. Not even close and its free.

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#121 Shielder7
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[QUOTE="AzatiS"]Most likely this gen ill go with PS4 but i refuse to pay for PSN+ ... The good thing is i want PS4 for mostly single player games so that wont affect me really bad

It will be interesting to see what and what they don't put behind a PSN+ pay wall since it will be left up to the publishers.
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#122 Supes_24
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I subscribed last thursday, one of the better decisions ive made.. all these games to play. My subscription will still be there at ps4 launch :)campzor
Same here. I tried the three month version just to sample it, well it's the best decision I've made. I've already downloaded close to $150 worth of games and am plying the crap out of BF3 online at the moment. Awesome service and will definitely renew for a year when it's time. I used to be like the OP. Never wanted digital and only hard copies but PS+ changed my mine. I still get day one hard copies but others you just want to eventually want to play come to PS+ eventually and possibly for free!
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#123 Shielder7
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[QUOTE="campzor"]I subscribed last thursday, one of the better decisions ive made.. all these games to play. My subscription will still be there at ps4 launch :)Supes_24
Same here. I tried the three month version just to sample it, well it's the best decision I've made. I've already downloaded close to $150 worth of games and am plying the crap out of BF3 online at the moment. Awesome service and will definitely renew for a year when it's time. I used to be like the OP. Never wanted digital and only hard copies but PS+ changed my mine. I still get day one hard copies but others you just want to eventually want to play come to PS+ eventually and possibly for free!

I guess it never occurred to anyone Sony might be doing the old bait and switch, regardless not a fan of downloading games.
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#124 LustForSoul
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You get some games with it to play. Not to mention they're adding social stuff and whatnot, it costs money. These kind of things MS has been doing for years now, that's what you had to pay for. They need to stay profitable.
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#125 archvile_78
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Pleased with the 2 months i had PSN+ so far so will continue paying for it.

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#126 aroxx_ab
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PSN+ with Drive Club 4free yes plz, thank you Sony :cool:

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#127 Shielder7
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You get some games with it to play. Not to mention they're adding social stuff and whatnot, it costs money. These kind of things MS has been doing for years now, that's what you had to pay for. They need to stay profitable. LustForSoul
Yeah paying for social stuff....... Takes me 6 seconds to turn over to my computer.
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#128 TrooperManaic
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PSN+ Attracted me before the PS4 was announced and after all these months I have to say that I think I have already gotten my moneys worth BUT... I still dont like it being forced upon you.

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#129 aroxx_ab
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PSN+ Attracted me before the PS4 was announced and after all these months I have to say that I think I have already gotten my moneys worth BUT... I still dont like it being forced upon you.

TrooperManaic

No1 force you to get it...

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#130 TrooperManaic
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[QUOTE="TrooperManaic"]

PSN+ Attracted me before the PS4 was announced and after all these months I have to say that I think I have already gotten my moneys worth BUT... I still dont like it being forced upon you.

aroxx_ab

No1 force you to get it...

Not forced par say, BUT I want a PS4 for its online multiplayer purposes and the ONLY way to do it is through PS+ which is basically forced. Some  games wont require it but they will be too few.

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#131 Shielder7
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[QUOTE="TrooperManaic"]

PSN+ Attracted me before the PS4 was announced and after all these months I have to say that I think I have already gotten my moneys worth BUT... I still dont like it being forced upon you.

aroxx_ab

No1 force you to get it...

Depends on what/ how many multiplayer games they put behind the PSN+ pay wall. You want to get your full game you paid for than yes it is forced.
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#132 Shielder7
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[QUOTE="aroxx_ab"]

[QUOTE="TrooperManaic"]

PSN+ Attracted me before the PS4 was announced and after all these months I have to say that I think I have already gotten my moneys worth BUT... I still dont like it being forced upon you.

TrooperManaic

No1 force you to get it...

Not forced par say, BUT I want a PS4 for its online multiplayer purposes and the ONLY way to do it is through PS+ which is basically forced. Some  games wont require it but they will be too few.

Pretty much this they should make a list of what will and will bot be behind a PSN+ paywall.
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#133 aroxx_ab
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[QUOTE="aroxx_ab"]

[QUOTE="TrooperManaic"]

PSN+ Attracted me before the PS4 was announced and after all these months I have to say that I think I have already gotten my moneys worth BUT... I still dont like it being forced upon you.

TrooperManaic

No1 force you to get it...

Not forced par say, BUT I want a PS4 for its online multiplayer purposes and the ONLY way to do it is through PS+ which is basically forced. Some  games wont require it but they will be too few.

You have options, you dont have to buy Ps4, get a PC and play online for free unless it is Wow/MMO if that is better for you

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#134 Shielder7
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[QUOTE="TrooperManaic"]

[QUOTE="aroxx_ab"]

No1 force you to get it...

aroxx_ab

Not forced par say, BUT I want a PS4 for its online multiplayer purposes and the ONLY way to do it is through PS+ which is basically forced. Some  games wont require it but they will be too few.

You have options, you dont have to buy Ps4, get a PC and play online for free unless it is Wow/MMO if that is better for you

That's nether hear nor there, that's not what he was referring to, but I think you new that even with your Fanboy glasses on. being deliberately ignorant does not help your case. 

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#135 jsmoke03
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i get the whole psn plus is good value, but it irks me that i still have to pay for online mp.....unless they guarantee dedicated servers for mp...(activision i am looking at you) but still.

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#136 ActicEdge
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When I get my PS4 if enough of my friends have one, buy games I'm interested in and play online, I'll get it. All 3 will have to be satisfied though because otherwise, its a waste of my money given that the type of games I have on my PS3 are stuff I have no desire to really play online.

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#137 Shielder7
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i get the whole psn plus is good value, but it irks me that i still have to pay for online mp.....unless they guarantee dedicated servers for mp...(activision i am looking at you) but still.

jsmoke03
Pretty much it, doubt there will be dedicated servers even so PC will still get that for free.
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#138 TrooperManaic
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[QUOTE="TrooperManaic"]

[QUOTE="aroxx_ab"]

No1 force you to get it...

aroxx_ab

Not forced par say, BUT I want a PS4 for its online multiplayer purposes and the ONLY way to do it is through PS+ which is basically forced. Some  games wont require it but they will be too few.

You have options, you dont have to buy Ps4, get a PC and play online for free unless it is Wow/MMO if that is better for you

I already have one its in my sig.

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#139 WilliamRLBaker
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[QUOTE="mynamesdenvrmax"]

Where are all the people who claimed "You already pay for internet, Microsoft is ripping you off!"  They seem to be pretty quiet about online play being restricted to paying members.

Netherscourge
Well, what choice does anyone have? The greedy creeps at Microsoft have made online console gaming a subscription model so now we have no choice but to pay for the garbage Internet tollbooth fee. Doesn't mean we have to LIE and say we like it like the BS Xbox Live freaks do.

l*laughs hard* bub bubububub its all microsofts fault, sony has no choice in the matter...
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#140 Shielder7
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[QUOTE="Netherscourge"][QUOTE="mynamesdenvrmax"]

Where are all the people who claimed "You already pay for internet, Microsoft is ripping you off!"  They seem to be pretty quiet about online play being restricted to paying members.

WilliamRLBaker
Well, what choice does anyone have? The greedy creeps at Microsoft have made online console gaming a subscription model so now we have no choice but to pay for the garbage Internet tollbooth fee. Doesn't mean we have to LIE and say we like it like the BS Xbox Live freaks do.

l*laughs hard* bub bubububub its all microsofts fault, sony has no choice in the matter...

No ones saying Sony never had a choice except Lemmings.
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#141 ButDuuude
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You can do whatever you want. I already have PS Plus and will be subscribing again when my year subscription ends.