A better overview from the source. http://pc.watch.impress.co.jp/docs/column/kaigai/20130329_593760.html
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A better overview from the source. http://pc.watch.impress.co.jp/docs/column/kaigai/20130329_593760.html
PS2 was pretty weak.[QUOTE="PSP107"]The PS2 was a beast machine.painguy1
It had good gfx. Though, I can't ever recal someone I knew having both Xbox and PS2. So I can't say I ever compared the gfx of the two.
PS2 was pretty weak.[QUOTE="painguy1"]
[QUOTE="PSP107"]The PS2 was a beast machine.wakefulness
It had good gfx. Though, I can't ever recal someone I knew having both Xbox and PS2. So I can't say I ever compared the gfx of the two.
The Xbox had better visuals than the PS2
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[QUOTE="painguy1"] PS2 was pretty weak.
seanmcloughlin
It had good gfx. Though, I can't ever recal someone I knew having both Xbox and PS2. So I can't say I ever compared the gfx of the two.
The Xbox had better visuals than the PS2
And gamecube had better hardwareDam look at all them numbers and letters I don't know jack shit about:P
Could someone without a Fanboy brain tell what all that means:lol:
PS2 was pretty weak.[QUOTE="painguy1"]
[QUOTE="PSP107"]The PS2 was a beast machine.wakefulness
It had good gfx. Though, I can't ever recal someone I knew having both Xbox and PS2. So I can't say I ever compared the gfx of the two.
Never said the games looked bad, but on a technical level it was below that of the gamecube and xbox (which were pretty close) and more on par with the dreamcast than anything else.
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[QUOTE="painguy1"] PS2 was pretty weak.
seanmcloughlin
It had good gfx. Though, I can't ever recal someone I knew having both Xbox and PS2. So I can't say I ever compared the gfx of the two.
The Xbox had better visuals than the PS2
Yeah an it was 20 months newer to so is not like they release head to head and MS beat them.The real question is do you understand any of this.? Specially the parts about special hardware,that allow both graphics and compute jobs to run in parallel without having to stop one to run the other like on PC and basically an other console.And how many of the cows hyping the PS4 and 8GB GDDR5 actually understand what they're seeing here?
seanmcloughlin
[QUOTE="wakefulness"]
[QUOTE="painguy1"] PS2 was pretty weak.
painguy1
It had good gfx. Though, I can't ever recal someone I knew having both Xbox and PS2. So I can't say I ever compared the gfx of the two.
Never said the games looked bad, but on a technical level it was below that of the gamecube and xbox (which were pretty close) and more on par with the dreamcast than anything else.
Hmm. You meant the components in the tech specs. My mistake!
Never said the games looked bad, but on a technical level it was below that of the gamecube and xbox (which were pretty close) and more on par with the dreamcast than anything else.Any one who say the PS2 was close to the DC doesn't know sh** about graphics or hardware,basically the PS2 is further away from the DC than the xbox was from the PS2.
painguy1
That last picture is misleading and wrong
PS2 main memory bandwidth was 3.2 GB/s while its 4mb dram for video was rated for 48GB/s but it could never reach it.
PS3 max memory bandwidth is 25 GB/s with main memory and video memory is 22GB/s
You cant just add the bandwidth together...
How many computer engineering classes do I have to take to understand this? My 2 consecutive comp sci classes apparently were slacking.bbkkristian3rd year at my university goes into stuff like this. Before that it's all code and gates and circuits.
Already corrected at beyond 3D since this is not an official diagram the clock speed of the jaguar cores is 1.6 Tessellationright. it seems to be put together by them with GDC info added.
[QUOTE="Tessellation"]Already corrected at beyond 3D since this is not an official diagram the clock speed of the jaguar cores is 1.6 killzowned24right. it seems to be put together by them with GDC info added. It's ok to be upset :cool:
[QUOTE="killzowned24"][QUOTE="Tessellation"]Already corrected at beyond 3D since this is not an official diagram the clock speed of the jaguar cores is 1.6 Tessellationright. it seems to be put together by them with GDC info added. It's ok to be upset :cool: Have nothing to be upset with.Its a overview of all the recent info that is better than vgleaks :)
Hmm...the fact that it says the CPU has low power consumption and low thermals doesn't bode well, although I guess it depends on what your definition of low power consumption/thermals is. You can reduce temperatures to a certain degree, but any powerful system is gonna generate a decent bit of heat. There's a reason Nintendo consoles don't heat up much...
[QUOTE="nintendoboy16"][QUOTE="PSP107"]The PS2 was a beast machine.PSP107Until GameCube and XBOX came along. This goes for painguy too. Xbox and GC didnt blow away PS2 graphics.
Says you. I always noticed my gamecube games (especially the ones designed specifically for the console) looked better. For example:
Gamecube top
PS3 bottom
[QUOTE="nintendoboy16"][QUOTE="PSP107"]The PS2 was a beast machine.PSP107Until GameCube and XBOX came along. This goes for painguy too.
Xbox and GC didnt blow away PS2 graphics.
:lol:XBOX had superior looking (and feeling) multiplats, as did GameCube in some instances (though for me, what version of said multiplat being superior has never been a deciding factor in buying a game, save for a few instances).
There's nothing on the PS2 that matches that of the Metroid Prime (GameCube) games, Rogue Squadron (GameCube, though to be fair, parts of RS II looked kind of lifeless), Star Fox Adventures (GameCube) Splinter Cell: Chaos Theory (XBOX version), and Doom 3 (XBOX).
Hell, PS2 ports of GameCube GAMES (RE4, Viewtiful Joe 1 and 2) look even worse.
Already corrected at beyond 3D since this is not an official diagram the clock speed of the jaguar cores is 1.6 Tessellation
Desktop AMD Jaguars would be replacing AMD Bobcats and low cost/low power Bulldozer/Piledriver (e.g. Jaguar was included within the A series APU line) and would be faster than laptop/netbook/tablet versions.
To increase the clock speed, AMD added an extra stage to the Jaguar's design.
On cost basis(relates to chip size), AMD Jaguar was designed to go against ARM Cortex A15 (e.g some prototypes goes beyond 2Ghz).
[QUOTE="seanmcloughlin"]The real question is do you understand any of this.? Specially the parts about special hardware,that allow both graphics and compute jobs to run in parallel without having to stop one to run the other like on PC and basically an other console. Current GCN hardware can handle multiple compute context.And how many of the cows hyping the PS4 and 8GB GDDR5 actually understand what they're seeing here?
tormentos
Interesting but expected like usual. The Playstation 4 is a PURE Heterogeneous System Architecture machine.ShadowDeathXPS4's software ecosystem proves that you can have DirectX like APIs with low latency. The problem is with Microsoft i.e. it's up to Microsoft to fix their driver model and DirectX.
AMD Jaguar jumps to A series APU and it didn't remain in Z or C or E series product segments.I don't get why Sony keeps pointing out that the CPU is designed for low power consumption/heat, all it does is remind people the PS4 is running a glorified netbook CPU.
Slow_Show
Think of AMD Radeon HD "7860" GPU and "copy-and-paste" 8 core AMD Jaguar CPUs (PS; the CPU design is part of A series APUs not just Z or C or E series APU lines) .We need Ronvalencia at once.
Clock-w0rk
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