PS4 doesn't support suspend/resume at launch, XB1 does

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#1 waltefmoney
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https://twitter.com/albertpenello/status/393944655932297217

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http://blog.us.playstation.com/2013/10/25/ps4-system-software-update-1-50-details/

"Some features will not be available at launch, such as “suspend/resume mode” which is a feature that keeps the PS4 system in a low power state and promptly takes users back to their game."

Rushed console confirmed?

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#2 LJS9502_basic  Online
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Day one patch.....

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#3 waltefmoney
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@LJS9502_basic said:

Day one patch.....

Can you read? It specifically says that it won't be in the day one patch and will be added at a later time.

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#4  Edited By edwardecl
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If you look at past releases of Sony consoles (ps3,psp) there are also features missing at launch that were patched in later. If you did not expect this then...

But it is a little odd that what seems more like a hardware feature is not being supported. Perhaps the suspend/resume is being tweaked to be more secure or something. Maybe it still has to go through some kind of bootloader before it resumes to verify the ram has not been messed with and perhaps they are trying to make that process go more smoothly. I would think Sony are much more on the ball security wise ever since their console and network service was hacked.

Just a thought, rushed would be to put the feature in incomplete and get problems later.

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@waltefmoney said:

https://twitter.com/albertpenello/status/393944655932297217

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http://blog.us.playstation.com/2013/10/25/ps4-system-software-update-1-50-details/

"Some features will not be available at launch, such as “suspend/resume mode” which is a feature that keeps the PS4 system in a low power state and promptly takes users back to their game."

Rushed console confirmed?

Just like the xbox one doesn't have have facebook integration for video uploading while the PS4 has..hahaha

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#6  Edited By Serial_Killa
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Wow that's pretty much a deal breaker. Pretty sure many people will be cancelling their pre-order now. How dare Sony. o_0

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#7 XxR3m1xInHDn3D
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Everyday the XBox One keeps looking better and better. I may have to break my no launch console rule and pre-order it :).

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#8  Edited By waltefmoney
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@tormentos said:

@waltefmoney said:

https://twitter.com/albertpenello/status/393944655932297217

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http://blog.us.playstation.com/2013/10/25/ps4-system-software-update-1-50-details/

"Some features will not be available at launch, such as “suspend/resume mode” which is a feature that keeps the PS4 system in a low power state and promptly takes users back to their game."

Rushed console confirmed?

Just like the xbox one doesn't have have facebook integration for video uploading while the PS4 has..hahaha

Who uploads gameplay videos to facebook? Nobody, thats who.

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#9  Edited By LJS9502_basic  Online
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@waltefmoney said:

@LJS9502_basic said:

Day one patch.....

Can you read? It specifically says that it won't be in the day one patch and will be added at a later time.

Yeah I can read. And you didn't post that. Can you read?

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#10 NameIess_One
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It's incredible how similar PS4 and X1 are, when minor details like this have to be used as material to keep the conflict alive.

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#11  Edited By waltefmoney
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@LJS9502_basic said:

@waltefmoney said:

@LJS9502_basic said:

Day one patch.....

Can you read? It specifically says that it won't be in the day one patch and will be added at a later time.

Yeah I can read. And you didn't post that. Can you read?

That is exactly the part of the article that I posted in the OP, check it again.

"Some features will not be available at launch, such as “suspend/resume mode” which is a feature that keeps the PS4 system in a low power state and promptly takes users back to their game."

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#12 XxR3m1xInHDn3D
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@waltefmoney said:

@LJS9502_basic said:

@waltefmoney said:

@LJS9502_basic said:

Day one patch.....

Can you read? It specifically says that it won't be in the day one patch and will be added at a later time.

Yeah I can read. And you didn't post that. Can you read?

That is exactly the part of the article that I posted in the OP, check it again.

"Some features will not be available at launch, such as “suspend/resume mode” which is a feature that keeps the PS4 system in a low power state and promptly takes users back to their game."

Just ignore him he's too busy listening to emo music and will probably take his anger out on you

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@waltefmoney said:

Who uploads gameplay videos to facebook? Nobody, thats who.

lol...

So since you don't have it at launch no one some how use it..hahaha

I see your desperate to find something to flame the PS4,now that you bring that did you know the second CPU of the PS4 is the one that handle those things,on xbox one is done by GPU and CPU reservation..

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#14  Edited By megaspiderweb09
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Yaay, 10 points to Slytherin

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#15 waltefmoney
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@tormentos said:

@waltefmoney said:

Who uploads gameplay videos to facebook? Nobody, thats who.

lol...

So since you don't have it at launch no one some how use it..hahaha

I see your desperate to find something to flame the PS4,now that you bring that did you know the second CPU of the PS4 is the one that handle those things,on xbox one is done by GPU and CPU reservation..

So you would rather be able to upload videos to facebook than have your system be able to suspend and resume instantaneously, saving you money on electricity?

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#16 danabo
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I never realised the PS3 didn't have multiple log-ins until reading about internet being required to play DVDs and Blu-rays on the PS4 - I've only ever used the PS3 for single player games.

Still, not having suspend/resume won't bother me - I unplug my electronic devices and have no issue waiting for them to boot up.

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#17  Edited By Sweenix
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@NameIess_One said:

It's incredible how similar PS4 and X1 are, when minor details like this have to be used as material to keep the conflict alive.

The only thing that won't be similar is the difference between multiplats

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#18  Edited By k2theswiss
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@tormentos: facebook was removed from the 360 because no one used it. Why in hell would you put man power to work on it when there ia better things to do

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@tormentos: facebook was removed feom the 360 because no one usednit. Why in hell would you put man power to work on it when there ia better things to do

Facebook on 360 did not allow for video upload dude.

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#20 2mrw
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Isn't that a hardware thing? why will it take some time to be added?

Btw, where did you hear it won't be ready at launch?

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#21  Edited By tormentos
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@waltefmoney said:

@tormentos said:

@waltefmoney said:

Who uploads gameplay videos to facebook? Nobody, thats who.

lol...

So since you don't have it at launch no one some how use it..hahaha

I see your desperate to find something to flame the PS4,now that you bring that did you know the second CPU of the PS4 is the one that handle those things,on xbox one is done by GPU and CPU reservation..

So you would rather be able to upload videos to facebook than have your system be able to suspend and resume instantaneously, saving you money on electricity?

So you rather pay $100 more for a weak console that doesn't allow you to do anything if you don't pay extra.?

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Everyday the XBox One keeps looking better and better.

Pffffffffffftttttttttttttaahahahahahhahahaha

The Vita has spoiled me but I don't think anyone's going to be bothered having to save and quit for a couple of months. At least, it better be patched in by February.

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#23 k2theswiss
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@tormentos: duuude facebook is facebook. If the number of users was so low on 360 where it was removed. Clearly people on xbox could give a rats ass about putting theor videos on it.

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@XxR3m1xInHDn3D said:

Everyday the XBox One keeps looking better and better. I may have to break my no launch console rule and pre-order it :).

Riiiiight.

You probably fooled everyone in here with that one.

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#25 danabo
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@XxR3m1xInHDn3D said:

Everyday the XBox One keeps looking better and better. I may have to break my no launch console rule and pre-order it :).

I've gone from hate to disdain to indifference to anticipation.

DR3 is so very very tempting.

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@danabo said:

@XxR3m1xInHDn3D said:

Everyday the XBox One keeps looking better and better. I may have to break my no launch console rule and pre-order it :).

I've gone from hate to disdain to indifference to anticipation.

DR3 is so very very tempting.

It's a cheeky little number isn't it? If I do get the One then I will be getting Crimson Dragon and DR3. You are spoiled for choice really which is a shame because console games are very expensive nowadays.

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#27  Edited By Caseytappy
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@tormentos said:

@k2theswiss said:

@tormentos: facebook was removed feom the 360 because no one usednit. Why in hell would you put man power to work on it when there ia better things to do

Facebook on 360 did not allow for video upload dude.

You forgot Hahahaha

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#28  Edited By Netret0120
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Poor attempt at ownage. This will be patched soon and then what?

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Poor attempt at ownage. This will be patched soon and then what?

Back to "Bu bu but Titanfall!!!"

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And the X1 doesn't have the TV features in my region at launch and is missing half the Kinect features in most regions. Given the way they based their entire first presentation on those two points mainly, i think that's quite a bit worse...

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And the X1 doesn't have the TV features in my region at launch and is missing half the Kinect features in most regions. Given the way they based their entire first presentation on those two points mainly, i think that's quite a bit worse...

Not available in certain regions =/= not available in all regions.

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#32  Edited By lamprey263
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So it'll be added at a later time? I remember when i heard that about party chat.

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Whoop-tee-doo

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#34  Edited By k2theswiss
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@hoosier7: second world issues.

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@waltefmoney said:

@hoosier7 said:

And the X1 doesn't have the TV features in my region at launch and is missing half the Kinect features in most regions. Given the way they based their entire first presentation on those two points mainly, i think that's quite a bit worse...

Not available in certain regions =/= not available in all regions.

When the TV stuff is only available in NA, it might as well be. Kinect is only available in 4 regions. When these are two of MS' biggest selling points i think it's far greater in significance.

There's stuff missing at launch that's available on 360, use of real names isn't available, some of the game DVR stuff is limited to only sharing on Xbox Live apparently too with youtube and Facebook uploading to be patched in.

There's some serious straw grasping here as the X1 has as many if not more stuff delayed and awaiting to be patched in.

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#36  Edited By waltefmoney
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@hoosier7 said:

@waltefmoney said:

@hoosier7 said:

And the X1 doesn't have the TV features in my region at launch and is missing half the Kinect features in most regions. Given the way they based their entire first presentation on those two points mainly, i think that's quite a bit worse...

Not available in certain regions =/= not available in all regions.

When the TV stuff is only available in NA, it might as well be. Kinect is only available in 4 regions. When these are two of MS' biggest selling points i think it's far greater in significance.

There's stuff missing at launch that's available on 360, use of real names isn't available, some of the game DVR stuff is limited to only sharing on Xbox Live apparently too with youtube and Facebook uploading to be patched in.

There's some serious straw grasping here as the X1 has as many if not more stuff delayed and awaiting to be patched in.

You can plug your device via HDMI-in can you not?

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#37  Edited By deactivated-5f19d4c9d7318
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@waltefmoney said:

You can plug your device via HDMI-in can you not?

Yes? That doesn't magically make the stuff mentioned work though.

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Greatness awaits is a perfect slogan for this launch

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@LJS9502_basic said:

Day one patch.....

Theres a surprise. You've stormed an anti-ps4 thread and made a fool of yourself.

'bu bu im not teh biased :cry:'

LOL

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While I don't think this is the end of the world or anything, there is something to be said about Sony saying no internet connection required, having all of these features NOT available for launch (Blu-ray, party chat??) and one of there next gen features of instant resume being scheduled for later release.

And people claim Microsoft is the one not to be trusted and evil and yet here they are defending sony. At least Microsoft tells it how it is and adjusts to the market accordingly.

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@YD_11 said:

While I don't think this is the end of the world or anything, there is something to be said about Sony saying no internet connection required, having all of these features NOT available for launch (Blu-ray, party chat??) and one of there next gen features of instant resume being scheduled for later release.

And people claim Microsoft is the one not to be trusted and evil and yet here they are defending sony. At least Microsoft tells it how it is and adjusts to the market accordingly.

exactly. i was going to get a PS4 at launch but now I'm not. I'm not paying full price for an incomplete device. I'll wait till they get their ish together as far as games an functionality. But to those who want to get a launch console the xbone might just be the best option. PS4 is looking more like a 2014 purchase every day.

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@XxR3m1xInHDn3D said:

Everyday the XBox One keeps looking better and better. I may have to break my no launch console rule and pre-order it :).

Every day cows make it look better and better. It was the opposite during the E3 and the reveals, but now Sony and their fanboys are making gamers see the XB1 in a favorable light. Preorders for XB1 are increasing every week. The rest of this year should be fun, but next holiday is going to be epic for XB1.

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Its a more important feature than letting users use their real names imo, but still not a big deal.

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It's funny that XBoners are trying to use a feature as ownage that's been on PC since the 90's.

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#45 Zero_epyon
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SLk4Ia0otko

This is getting ridiculous...Both sides need to chill out. Sony had features come in (and out) through the generation and so did Microsoft. Why this is a shock to anyone is just plain lunacy. So a console can't fall asleep, big deal just turn it off. You actually save more power when it's off then when it's asleep, since you don't require power to maintain the info in memory. I like suspend mode, but most likely won't use it since suspend mode on most devices end up running into stability issues when resuming, hence why the feature still needs work. If it works on xbox, great! MS has experience with this sort of thing on PC's and they're launching later, giving them more time to address any issues.

Seriously though, if it doesn't effect games, why do any of you care?

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#46 waltefmoney
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@menes777 said:

It's funny that XBoners are trying to use a feature as ownage that's been on PC since the 90's.

Hiding behind PC again? LMAO some things never change.

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#47 tormentos
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@waltefmoney said:

@menes777 said:

It's funny that XBoners are trying to use a feature as ownage that's been on PC since the 90's.

Hiding behind PC again? LMAO some things never change.

Fact is not all features are on xbox one day one either so basically you are been extremely hypocrite about it.

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Yeah that struck me as odd as well when I first read it, that a simple suspend-resume feature, something that the 360 currently has, will not be available at launch even after the day 1 patch? Sounds like November 15 could be one messy day....hopefully no consoles will be bricked.

Also......Weyoun ftw :)

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This literally means nothing to me.

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#50 2mrw
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@Alucard_Prime said:

Yeah that struck me as odd as well when I first read it, that a simple suspend-resume feature, something that the 360 currently has, will not be available at launch even after the day 1 patch? Sounds like November 15 could be one messy day....hopefully no consoles will be bricked.

Also......Weyoun ftw :)

lol, wut? the X360 has a suspend/resume feature like the PSP ?