PS4: Fastest selling console ever

Spoken like a true Nintendo fanboy. Guess what bro? Sony does have games. I enjoy Sony's games. Sony's first party games are amazing AND they have all the 3rd party games. Since I don't like Nintendo's kiddy cartoon games, Nintendo has NOTHING for me. No 1st or 3rd party games worth buying. Quit living the myth that Nintendo is the best. They aren't. They have been making the same garbage games since the N64.

Let me know when Nintendo grows up and actually evolves. Quite frankly I don't understand how anyone can like nintendo anymore. I have higher standards. Zelda is the same old fetch quests with terrible motion controls. Mario Kart 8. Same old thing I played 20 years ago. Smash Bros....same old stuff. Pikmin....was never good. It has been overrated since day one simply because Nintendo made it.

F-zero is garbage. Always has been. Starfox is overrated. Those games are literally an hour long! What a joke! NSMB has been ported what.....5 times now? They are the exact same game between the wii/wiiu/ds.

Nintendo is a cheap company who makes cheap games. All of their games scream "low budget". Sorry, but I am not settling for less with Nintendo's cheap and poorly made games. I would rather have Sony's big budget games with actual effort put into them.

As already said earlier in this thread Ps4 has not outsold Wii in the 1st year

They certainly do. Hopefully they release some soon.

Sorry, but showing off games we already know about, and announcing a few ports and indies is hardly burying the competition. Call it what it was...a Sony festival of Cow love and togetherness...that's really it.

#where are the megatons?

Makes sense, it is successfully converting Wii and 360 owners to make the jump to their system.

We'll have to wait for the year end totals but I could believe it. It's gonna fall behind the Wii soon though and stay there for a good period of time.

When the Shitbox Done has no games from January to September except a Fable spinoff and then a Halo game handled by 343i, a new IP and a cross-gen Tomb Raider game, you sure as shit should be showing stuff off to reassure people they should stick with your console. Especially when the only new game announced since E3 is a State of Decay port.

#wherearethegames?

Don't worry Lems. I'm sure your new XBox will break records, too. Like... Most returned console in January.

Hopefully they'll do what they did with the PS3 and actually have a consistent stream of games soon. I don't know why Sony always have lacking first years.

Cows playing the sales game still.

I don't really care about the XBone, I don't own one, and I don't really plan on owning one anytime soon. Why is it whenever someone disagrees with you PS fanboys, they have to automatically be an Xbox fanboy? I've owned all of the Sony systems, all of the Nintendo Systems, and an Xbox and Xbox 360's. I have no loyalty to any company. So when they do good stuff I plraise them. When they do dumb shit I call them out.

You were the one saying that the PSE buried the Xbone. I'm saying....not even close. A few new videos of previously announced games, and a few announcements of indie ports and old PS1 games being ported to the PS4 is hardly the burying megatons you and other fanboys were talking about.

It really has nothing to do with what the Xbone has coming out. Although I'm sure if we counted ports, multi-plats, indies, and stuff just going to Live there will be plenty of games for the Xbone. You can't count these on one system, then not count them on the other. You wouldn't want to be a hypocrite would you?

'Sony should sue Microsoft's asshole inside out for dumping. Your precious XBox exists by the grace of #BasedSony and Nintendo right now.'

Would not change a damn thing, Europe ordered MS to pay 1.4 million a day for Breach of anti-trust and MS just kept paying the fine with one executive describing it as 'small change from the back of the SOFA'

SONY doesn't have the funds to take on MS legally and even if they did win MS would just laugh, pay the fine and carry on as usual.

when it comes to finances Microsoft wipes the floor with both nintendo and SONY.

Damn impressive if you ask me. No end in console games or consoles confirmed.

Then it's a good thing the market is deciding against such unbalanced competition.

how so? yes the Ps4 is outselling the Xbone but it's the fastest selling console in history, you have to get things in perspective, yes more people are choosing the Ps4 but the xbones first year is turning out to be on Par with the 360's first year of release (Xbox 360 sold 5,656,039 consoles in it's first year) which isn't bad by any means.

You have to get things in perspective, the Xbone is selling as well as the 360 did so it is selling really well ,the only reason it looks like it isn't is because the Ps4 is selling EXCEPTIONALLY well, it's already doubled first year Ps3 sales (Ps3 first year sales where 5,552,039).

The Xbone is doing as well as the 360 did last gen, the PS4 is doing far better than the Ps3 did last gen.

And you keep blaming microsoft for 'money hatting games' saying it's there fault because they did it first and they started all this crap but they didn't, remember HAZE?

'Haze was originally set to be released simultaneously on the PlayStation 3, Xbox 360, and PC in Summer 2007. However, the release date was pushed back to Winter, and it was announced at Sony's E3 2007 press conference that Haze would be exclusive to the PlayStation 3. This was a decision that had been made by Ubisoft. The game was then delayed further and eventually given a May 2008 release. Free Radical stated that the delays have allowed them to include several new features into the game.'

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haze_%28video_game%29

So you all ripped into Microsoft over tombraider conveniently forgetting that your precious SONY where pulling the same stunts already.

this is why i keep telling you guys, both companys are as guilty as each other when it comes to dodgy practices within the gaming industry and neither company is worth your loyalty.

If you like there Hardware and games then buy them but leave it at that dude, thes people don't give a flying **** about you and yours so you shouldn't give a flying **** about them and theres.

I was GUTTED when they announced HAZE was going to be a Ps3 exclusive but i wasn't shocked or surprised, thats what company's do there sole purpose is to make MONEY that is all.

I never made the assertion that Sony does not buy exclusivity. I make the assertion that MS closes studios, pawns them off or relegates them to making Kinect games when internal so that their back is to a wall to drop gobs of money to buy third party support.

That's kind of the end of it. Unlike the Cows here, I don't pretend that Sony is a non-profit agency put here to donate good gaming to me while saving homeless puppies and battered women. I'm just saying XBox is pathetic, and it is. It went from being a great idea (Xbox1 OG), to a wonderful concept (360 first half of Gen7 when it was a games machine foremost that offered choice in the market and was easier on developers) into losing its way (360 that closed Ensemble, let Bungie go, spent half a billion marketing/rebranding itself to a Kinect machine and made Rare puke shovelware) and into a fucking disaster (XBone).

I mean, fuckit man. Halo is divvied out to the Indian Call Center of MS Hell called 343i and summarily watershits itself. You had a drought of exclusives from early 2012 until XBone comes out. What "exclusives" it has had of any note can and will be found on PC full stop.. And this previous post is how you defend all that? It's selling as well as the 360? I don't have to tell you how this ends. MS announces a permanent $350 pricepoint at E3. Fucking quote me on that. Meanwhile, Sony matches it because they are in a position to stay in the driver's seat for software sales and online fees. Next holiday season rolls around and MS once again goes dumpfest with another populist bundlepack (likely CoD) and Sony holds the ground again.

That's as good as it's going to get for the XBone. You have one more year to be topical, if not relevant. Then the worldwide market will topple over end and become a much bigger bargaining chip than what MS can put on the table. Money is in sales, not contract deals. Every year that passes, AAA franchises that publishers are willing to walk away from the PS4s installed fanbase just get farther and farther out of reach. The 360 lost it's lead over the course of Gen7. Can you honestly tell me that MS has the leverage to do the same with a straight face? Gamer to gamer, here. Would you look any man in the eye and say that 343i will do for the XBone what Naughty Dog did for the PS3? Will Black Tusk be the next Santa Monica? Can the new Rare hold a candle to Japan Studios? Does XBox, as a brand, have anything at all it can leverage to make it stand apart from a glue eater's excuse for a PC?

The answer is no. Don't waste your precious seconds lying to me, this forum or yourself. Will XBone be able to continually repeat the 360s ability to play cross-platform games better? Again, no.

Not sure if it's true. I just looked up Wii sales and from 12-31-2006 to 12-31-2007 Wii sold 20.13 million worldwide. While PS4 is at 16,146,005 in 13 months.

It hasn't been 13 months, yet, and December is the largest sales month of the year. Also, I'm curious where you got the 16M number. Not doubting you, just want to see the source.

tobacco was selling pretty well too when it first hit the market

that doesn't mean it's a good thing

The only thing causing cancer to gaming is the XBone.

i understand what you are saying but you are assuming a lot about the future, we don't really know what MS will do next, you are assuming that they will carry on the way they are now.

there just too much assumption in your post for me to take it seriously, you accuse me of lying based on assumptions about the future which is terrible mate

'Next holiday season rolls around and MS once again goes dumpfest with another populist bundlepack (likely CoD) and Sony holds the ground again.' =assumption

'Then the worldwide market will topple over end and become a much bigger bargaining chip than what MS can put on the table.'=assumption

'Would you look any man in the eye and say that 343i will do for the XBone what Naughty Dog did for the PS3? Will Black Tusk be the next Santa Monica? Can the new Rare hold a candle to Japan Studios?'

I would say i don't know because i cannot see the future and neither can you.

'Money is in sales, not contract deals. Every year that passes, AAA franchises that publishers are willing to walk away from the PS4s installed fanbase just get farther and farther out of reach.'

i don't quite understand this, are you trying to say that devs will walk away from MS because the Ps4 has a larger install base? if that the case then it's juts bollocks, it's a baseless assumption to assume that developers will dump a particular console because it has a lower install base than the others, especially if the Xbone manages to maintain the same kind of sales numbers as the 360, which i am not saying it will but you saying it won't is just another baseless assumption.

Besides, the xbone isn't selling that badly and has roughly the same software attach rate as the Ps4.

The point is that you are accusing me of lying based on your assumptions of what will happen in the future and thats just a load of bollocks mate, you cannot see the future, neither can i the difference is my post contained Facts based on what is Actually happening, your post is full of assumptions that may or may not become a reality.

Nah, I'm not accusing you of being a liar. I'm just being a non-pragmatic realist.

It's a shame that the 'bone only has the U.S. and U.K. (barely) to help keep it afloat.

I think he probably got that 16 million number from VGChartz.

LOL! I still don't know how anyone can quote VGChartz like their numbers are written in stone fact. :) It will be funny if that was actually his source.

You might want to learn how to read a balance sheet someday...or hell, anything about accounting. Sony's net tangible assets (tangible assets - total liabilities...or "book value") are nearly $9 billion USD. Nowhere near as healthy as Microsoft, granted, but also not on the verge of bankruptcy.

Unfortunately, not everyone knows how unreliable VGChartz is.

Sony's total assets are ¥15.333 trillion (~$130 billion).

To keep it afloat? That is all I need to keep getting the best games I guess because Microsofts fat bank account seems like it is fine. Sony on the other hand? No bank account and it needs every sale it can get.

@Shewgenja: It doesnt matter if its faster or not , it does matter how much it will sale each individual year and how much in total at the end of the generation.

That's total assets. I quoted Net Assets. Tangible Assets (which doesn't include intangible assets like Goodwill) minus Total Liabilities = Net Assets.