PS4 has not won yet, launch exclusives will play a very MINOR role in choice.

[QUOTE="senses_fail_06"]MS needed to launch first again. That is the only advantage they had last gen. If Sony had launched at the same time you could have said goodbye to the xbox brand. Badosh

[QUOTE="aroxx_ab"]

[QUOTE="MBirdy88"] Then why have you bought a launch Wii u? =/ seems hypocritical, will go down in price and actually have games.timbers_WSU

Because of the games and i have owned every Nintendo console released except handhelds/Virtual boy. You know i love Nintendo 1st party games, other games is just a bonus. WiiU have exclusives like ZombiU which i thought was very good/fun.

This month i getting Monster Hunter Ultimate which will give me over 2000hrs gaming like Monster Hunter Tri for Wii;)

That not always work out, look at Ps1-Ps2 domination. Xbox would not had chance if that logic was true.

If Sony still thinks that movies are games, then they are fvcked.

I don't really care much for the "exclusive" moniker, but I think launch lineup is extremely important.  Bottom line is, the Sony conference showed games, and that's very encouraging.

If Sony still thinks that movies are games, then they are fvcked.

sonic1564

That didn't stop Heavy Rain/MGS

mario and sonic proves exclusives have been important for a long time.

These companys need to learn one thing from nintendo exclusives are important and thats it.

nextgenjoke

[QUOTE="sonic1564"]

If Sony still thinks that movies are games, then they are fvcked.

aroxx_ab

That didn't stop Heavy Rain/MGS

Those are the prime reasons that PS3 flopped. Where's the challenge Sony?

If Sony still thinks that movies are games, then they are fvcked.

sonic1564

[QUOTE="aroxx_ab"]

[QUOTE="sonic1564"]

If Sony still thinks that movies are games, then they are fvcked.

sonic1564

That didn't stop Heavy Rain/MGS

Those are the prime reasons that PS3 flopped. Where's the challenge Sony?

Yeah give a big variety of games is reason of flop and just weaken your brand:|

mario and sonic proves exclusives have been important for a long time.

These companys need to learn one thing from nintendo exclusives are important and thats it.

Meh.

Launch exclusives (and exclusives in general) have never amounted to a pile of dog crap in my eyes. When either console gets a must own exclusive someone let me know.

Console launch titles are almost always exclusively weak IMO.

mario and sonic proves exclusives have been important for a long time.

These companys need to learn one thing from nintendo exclusives are important and thats it.

people didnt buy wiiu to play black ops 2 reason it sold crappy lol.

[QUOTE="sonic1564"]

If Sony still thinks that movies are games, then they are fvcked.

nextgenjoke

Nah its everyone

The exception is Sucker Punch.

reason call of duty 2 sold well at 360s launch the only other platform it was on was the pc.

When black ops 2 launched on wiiu it was also avalible for pc,360,ps3 and wiiu's more expensive than ps3/360.

If someone bought a console to play black ops 2 it wouldnt be wiiu.

mario and zombiu was the real reason to purchase a wiiu.

mario and sonic proves exclusives have been important for a long time.

These companys need to learn one thing from nintendo exclusives are important and thats it.

Sony didn't win with PS3 for the 1st time ever. It was because they released 1yr after the 360 released and it was priced too high. They have taken that seriously and aren't making that mistake again. They also have taken very seriously making the PS4 developer friendly, making the system more user friendly/appealing by including a mic with every system, adding social features to the network, making so games no longer have installs and games bought from the online Playstation Store are immediately playable. They will price the PS4 right this time & will continue to show it's appeal to the public at E3. Also when PS3 came out the Wii was a huge success and the Wii U isn't a success at all. This all adds up to the PS4 likely selling a lot better than PS3 did. 

PS4 already won. And Sony is not being generous and giving M$ a head start this gen. All things considered, PS3 beat the 360 even when it started the race early and not to mention all dem sales from the RROD...domination baby.

It's going to be the 6th gen all over again: PS4 = PS2 Nextbox = Xbox Wii U = GC

[QUOTE="aroxx_ab"]

[QUOTE="sonic1564"]

If Sony still thinks that movies are games, then they are fvcked.

sonic1564

That didn't stop Heavy Rain/MGS

Those are the prime reasons that PS3 flopped. Where's the challenge Sony?

10/10, AAAAExperience. Thank you Sony and Kojima.

PS4 already won. And Sony is not being generous and giving M$ a head start this gen. All things considered, PS3 beat the 360 even when it started the race early and not to mention all dem sales from the RROD...domination baby.

It's going to be the 6th gen all over again: PS4 = PS2 Nextbox = Xbox Wii U = GC

[QUOTE="sonic1564"]

[QUOTE="aroxx_ab"]

That didn't stop Heavy Rain/MGS

Speedzilla

Those are the prime reasons that PS3 flopped. Where's the challenge Sony?

10/10, AAAAExperience. Thank you Sony and Kojima.

try harder

[QUOTE="Speedzilla"]

PS4 already won. And Sony is not being generous and giving M$ a head start this gen. All things considered, PS3 beat the 360 even when it started the race early and not to mention all dem sales from the RROD...domination baby.

It's going to be the 6th gen all over again: PS4 = PS2 Nextbox = Xbox Wii U = GC

[QUOTE="sonic1564"]

Those are the prime reasons that PS3 flopped. Where's the challenge Sony?

Mr720fan

10/10, AAAAExperience. Thank you Sony and Kojima.

try harder

'MR720FAN' :lol:

after all the vast majority of games are multiplatform now

MBirdy88

Yes, that tends to happen at the very end of a hardware generation, when exclusives have naturally become less important.

It amazes me how you people forget that things go in cycles.

If Sony still thinks that movies are games, then they are fvcked.

sonic1564

This is the worst argument anyone can use for Sony's games.  It baffles me how people even say this anymore.  It clearly shows when either people havent't played the game or  they are clearly biased against Sony.

As an example.  Uncharted series is one of the most fun this gen, the cinematic PRESENTATION just make it that much better.

So you expect everyone that bought Kinect this gen to buy 720 for Kinect 2.0, yeah that worked out well for Nintendo didn't it. I'm not seeing what MS has over Sony. I think it's also pathetic that you'd want those bullet points to make up for MS giving as little effort as possible on exclusives,  you know,  the games that define a platform or brand. Seems you Lems will be happy with a Genericbox720. 

I don't buy consoles for non-gaming features. I want games on my gaming console, thank you. I give zero **** about "Skype integration" or the "Windows 8 ecosystem". The whole movie for games argument against Sony is hilarious. I guess it's bad that Sony actually cares about story in their games. Since when was having story a bad thing in video games? I guess it is to people who only judge the quality of a game based on how many Michael Baysplosions are in it.

The Quad really rustled some folks.

Xbox has lost Fable (it now has robots and factories, plus is on PC), Rareware (making sports games for christ), Remedy (Alan Wake on PC), JRPGs (Mistwalker) and indies (killed XNA) and is dead to me

They can still turn it around, but chances are so slim with all the crappy Kinect focus and zero important releases in years

I don't really care much for the "exclusive" moniker, but I think launch lineup is extremely important.  Bottom line is, the Sony conference showed games, and that's very encouraging.

clone01

people didnt buy wiiu to play black ops 2 reason it sold crappy lol.

nextgenjoke

I don't buy consoles for non-gaming features. I want games on my gaming console, thank you. I give zero **** about "Skype integration" or the "Windows 8 ecosystem". The whole movie for games argument against Sony is hilarious. I guess it's bad that Sony actually cares about story in their games. Since when was having story a bad thing in video games? I guess it is to people who only judge the quality of a game based on how many Michael Baysplosions are in it.

Merex760

[QUOTE="Mr720fan"]

[QUOTE="Speedzilla"]

10/10, AAAAExperience. Thank you Sony and Kojima.

Speedzilla

try harder

'MR720FAN' :lol:

People buy Microsoft consoles to play Microsoft games such as Halo. People buy Nintendo consoles to play Nintendo games such as Mario, Zelda, and Donkey Kong. What franchises does Sony have that are valuable to them as a company? Someone's going to go: "but they have Uncharted, Infamous, Killzone" those aren't it and they were franchises that were just created.

People buy Microsoft consoles to play Microsoft games such as Halo. People buy Nintendo consoles to play Nintendo games such as Mario, Zelda, and Donkey Kong. What franchises does Sony have that are valuable to them as a company? Someone's going to go: "but they have Uncharted, Infamous, Killzone" those aren't it and they were franchises that were just created.

Samus3D

Gran Turismo.

[QUOTE="Samus3D"]

People buy Microsoft consoles to play Microsoft games such as Halo. People buy Nintendo consoles to play Nintendo games such as Mario, Zelda, and Donkey Kong. What franchises does Sony have that are valuable to them as a company? Someone's going to go: "but they have Uncharted, Infamous, Killzone" those aren't it and they were franchises that were just created.

Obviously_Right

Gran Turismo.

[QUOTE="Obviously_Right"]

[QUOTE="Samus3D"]

People buy Microsoft consoles to play Microsoft games such as Halo. People buy Nintendo consoles to play Nintendo games such as Mario, Zelda, and Donkey Kong. What franchises does Sony have that are valuable to them as a company? Someone's going to go: "but they have Uncharted, Infamous, Killzone" those aren't it and they were franchises that were just created.

AncientDozer

Gran Turismo.

Proof?

[QUOTE="Obviously_Right"]

[QUOTE="Samus3D"]

People buy Microsoft consoles to play Microsoft games such as Halo. People buy Nintendo consoles to play Nintendo games such as Mario, Zelda, and Donkey Kong. What franchises does Sony have that are valuable to them as a company? Someone's going to go: "but they have Uncharted, Infamous, Killzone" those aren't it and they were franchises that were just created.

Samus3D

Gran Turismo.

What should that tell me? Enlighten me.

Link?

[QUOTE="ImBatman-"]

Here's how thing will go down: Casuals will be split between Wii, Wii U, PS4, nextbox. Core gamers will go either PS4 or PC. PS4 wins, Sony gets 1st place like they have in 2/3 generations so far.

AncientDozer

[QUOTE="Samus3D"]

People buy Microsoft consoles to play Microsoft games such as Halo. People buy Nintendo consoles to play Nintendo games such as Mario, Zelda, and Donkey Kong. What franchises does Sony have that are valuable to them as a company? Someone's going to go: "but they have Uncharted, Infamous, Killzone" those aren't it and they were franchises that were just created.

Obviously_Right

Gran Turismo.

God of War. (GOW3 broke all GOW sales records)

and LBP. Uncharted. 

I don't see why people wouldn't count Uncharted and LBP. Both franchises have sold very well this generation. Not to mention a wide variety of exclusives can sell a system. 

[QUOTE="Obviously_Right"]

[QUOTE="Samus3D"]

People buy Microsoft consoles to play Microsoft games such as Halo. People buy Nintendo consoles to play Nintendo games such as Mario, Zelda, and Donkey Kong. What franchises does Sony have that are valuable to them as a company? Someone's going to go: "but they have Uncharted, Infamous, Killzone" those aren't it and they were franchises that were just created.

Nonstop-Madness

Gran Turismo.

God of War. (GOW3 broke all GOW sales records)

and LBP. Uncharted. 

I don't see why people wouldn't count Uncharted and LBP. Both franchises have sold very well this generation. Not to mention a wide variety of exclusives can sell a system. 

[QUOTE="Obviously_Right"]

[QUOTE="Samus3D"]

People buy Microsoft consoles to play Microsoft games such as Halo. People buy Nintendo consoles to play Nintendo games such as Mario, Zelda, and Donkey Kong. What franchises does Sony have that are valuable to them as a company? Someone's going to go: "but they have Uncharted, Infamous, Killzone" those aren't it and they were franchises that were just created.

Nonstop-Madness

Gran Turismo.

God of War. (GOW3 broke all GOW sales records)

and LBP. Uncharted. 

I don't see why people wouldn't count Uncharted and LBP. Both franchises have sold very well this generation. Not to mention a wide variety of exclusives can sell a system. 

the ps3 was a pretty big embarrassment to the playstation name. :(

hopefully ps4 will redeem the brand.

[QUOTE="Nonstop-Madness"]

[QUOTE="Obviously_Right"]

Gran Turismo.

Samus3D

God of War. (GOW3 broke all GOW sales records)

and LBP. Uncharted. 

I don't see why people wouldn't count Uncharted and LBP. Both franchises have sold very well this generation. Not to mention a wide variety of exclusives can sell a system. 

[QUOTE="Nonstop-Madness"]

[QUOTE="Obviously_Right"]

Gran Turismo.

Samus3D

God of War. (GOW3 broke all GOW sales records)

and LBP. Uncharted. 

I don't see why people wouldn't count Uncharted and LBP. Both franchises have sold very well this generation. Not to mention a wide variety of exclusives can sell a system. 

What does this even mean?

plus they were just created this or last generation.

Why does this matter?

[QUOTE="Nonstop-Madness"]

[QUOTE="Obviously_Right"]

Gran Turismo.

ImBatman-

God of War. (GOW3 broke all GOW sales records)

and LBP. Uncharted. 

I don't see why people wouldn't count Uncharted and LBP. Both franchises have sold very well this generation. Not to mention a wide variety of exclusives can sell a system.