PS4 is leading the pre-order number EVERYWHERE including US

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#102 Flubbbs
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people argue over this stuff?

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#103 StormyJoe
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That is the cumulative best selling list for 2013. As I have said before, the PS4 was beating the XB1 in pre-orders (by a good margin) before the "no DRM" announcement was made. That trend has, at least somewhat, shifted. I am not even going out on a limb and saying the XB1 is out selling the PS4. All I am saying is the gap is less.

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The PS4 still beating it dude 5 sku on thtop 20 teh xbox just has 1,you don't get it,the xbox one is the best single item sold,but the PS4 is not been accounted in groups,which mean that every single sku is count as a single item, so is 5 vs 1..:lol:

If Amazon merge the all PS4 sku to count as one,th PS4 >>>>> the xbox one.

OK, Bessie. Whatever. Why do I call you "Bessie"? Because you are such a cow that I now I dentify you as one of the species.

My point is 100% on the mark. The XB1's sales have risen... a lot. I even made a disclaimer - in the thread that you are replying to - that read "I am not even going out on a limb and saying the XB1 is out selling the PS4. All I am saying is the gap is less." However, you are so bovine that you cannot even concede that point.

You are truly the biggest, blindest cow I have ever seen in SW.

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#104 deactivated-5d7fb49ded561
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The fact that the PS4 is beating the Xbox One in the US is huge, now every continent on planet earth wants a PS4 more than they want a Xbox One

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#105 clr84651
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PS3 only struggled so much because Sony waited a year too long, overpriced it, and was also affected by difficulty to develop for. 

Of course a PS given a level playing field or more advantages will always win. 

There are many reasons to buy a PS4 over Wii U & XDumb One. 

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#106 clyde46
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Since when did Amazon equal everything?
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PS3 only struggled so much because Sony waited a year too long, overpriced it, and was also affected by difficulty to develop for. 

Of course a PS given a level playing field or more advantages will always win. 

There are many reasons to buy a PS4 over Wii U & XDumb One. 

clr84651
PS3 was not overpriced.
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#108 Chutebox  Online
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Since when did Amazon equal everything?clyde46
Don't you dare say otherwise.
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#109 clyde46
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[QUOTE="clr84651"]

PS3 only struggled so much because Sony waited a year too long, overpriced it, and was also affected by difficulty to develop for. 

Of course a PS given a level playing field or more advantages will always win. 

There are many reasons to buy a PS4 over Wii U & XDumb One. 

Chutebox
PS3 was not overpriced.

It is was.
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[QUOTE="clyde46"]Since when did Amazon equal everything?Chutebox
Don't you dare say otherwise.

Oh, I dare.
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#111 LordOfPoms
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Since when did Amazon equal everything?clyde46
Since people who have too much time on their hands decided Amazon is the world?
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[QUOTE="Chutebox"][QUOTE="clr84651"]

PS3 only struggled so much because Sony waited a year too long, overpriced it, and was also affected by difficulty to develop for. 

Of course a PS given a level playing field or more advantages will always win. 

There are many reasons to buy a PS4 over Wii U & XDumb One. 

clyde46
PS3 was not overpriced.

It is was.

Was not
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#113 clyde46
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[QUOTE="Chutebox"][QUOTE="clyde46"][QUOTE="Chutebox"] PS3 was not overpriced.

It is was.

Was not

Was.
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#114 djshowstopper87
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People need to stop posting the pre order list for Amazon. There are other places all over the world taking pre orders from consoles in the US Best Buy, Wal Mart, Target, Game Stop all have pre orders for Xbox One and PS4.  I currently have a ps4 pre orderd but I might switch to Xbox One because I know my gaming friends and family will most likely be on Xbox still. 

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[QUOTE="clyde46"][QUOTE="Chutebox"][QUOTE="clyde46"] It is was.

Was not

Was.

I'm amazed there is a debate about if the PS3 was overpriced. It was.
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[QUOTE="-Damien-"]US http://www.amazon.com/gp/bestsellers/2013/videogames/ref=zg_bs_tab_t_bsar UK http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/bestsellers/2013/videogames/ref=zg_bs_tab_t_bsar Germany http://www.amazon.de/gp/bestsellers/2013/videogames/ref=zg_bs_tab_t_bsar

I might believe this if Sony wasn't paying amazon to hype them up.
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Xbone could probably beat the PS4 if it dropped Kinect and came out for 19.99 cheaper than the PS4.

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#118 rrjim1
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http://www.amazon.com/best-sellers-video-games/zgbs/videogames/ref=pd_dp_ts_vg_1

This is the correct US page. It clearly shows the Xbox one is #1.

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Xbone could probably beat the PS4 if it dropped Kinect and came out for 19.99 cheaper than the PS4.

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It will beat ps4 regardless. They will do amazing things with connect and it will grow on people.
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PS3 only struggled so much because Sony waited a year too long, overpriced it, and was also affected by difficulty to develop for. 

Of course a PS given a level playing field or more advantages will always win. 

There are many reasons to buy a PS4 over Wii U & XDumb One. 

clr84651
XDumb One. My sides. Are you proud of being a fanboy?
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Ok, now what?navyguy21
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[QUOTE="LordOfPoms"][QUOTE="clyde46"][QUOTE="Chutebox"] Was not

Was.

I'm amazed there is a debate about if the PS3 was overpriced. It was.

Overpriced yet they lost a shit load of money per unit sold? Doesn't make much sense. It was very expensive, but not overpriced.
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#123 FiveSecondFury
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people argue over this stuff?

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Is this your first time on system wars?
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[QUOTE="Chutebox"][QUOTE="LordOfPoms"][QUOTE="clyde46"] Was.

I'm amazed there is a debate about if the PS3 was overpriced. It was.

Overpriced yet they lost a shit load of money per unit sold? Doesn't make much sense. It was very expensive, but not overpriced.

It was priced higher than most people were willing to pay for it=overpriced.
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[QUOTE="-Damien-"]US http://www.amazon.com/gp/bestsellers/2013/videogames/ref=zg_bs_tab_t_bsar UK http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/bestsellers/2013/videogames/ref=zg_bs_tab_t_bsar Germany http://www.amazon.de/gp/bestsellers/2013/videogames/ref=zg_bs_tab_t_bsar

The main reason why MS changed thei whole plan and their policies. MS fanboys should thank Sony !!!!!
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#126 clyde46
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[QUOTE="Flubbbs"]

people argue over this stuff?

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Is this your first time on system wars?

Obvious alt is obvious.
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[QUOTE="AzatiS"][QUOTE="-Damien-"]US http://www.amazon.com/gp/bestsellers/2013/videogames/ref=zg_bs_tab_t_bsar UK http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/bestsellers/2013/videogames/ref=zg_bs_tab_t_bsar Germany http://www.amazon.de/gp/bestsellers/2013/videogames/ref=zg_bs_tab_t_bsar

The main reason why MS changed thei whole plan and their policies. MS fanboys should thank Sony !!!!!

We should thank them for giving up your credit card info and shutting down the network for a few months?
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http://www.amazon.com/best-sellers-video-games/zgbs/videogames/ref=pd_dp_ts_vg_1

This is the correct US page. It clearly shows the Xbox one is #1.

rrjim1
Nope, that's best sellers right now, and Xbox is #1 because there are numerous PS4 SKU's on sale, where as only one Xbox. The link in OP was for best selling in 2013 total, not just right now, and PS4 is significantly ahead.
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[QUOTE="rrjim1"]

http://www.amazon.com/best-sellers-video-games/zgbs/videogames/ref=pd_dp_ts_vg_1

This is the correct US page. It clearly shows the Xbox one is #1.

gamebreakerz__
Nope, that's best sellers right now, and Xbox is #1 because there are numerous PS4 SKU's on sale, where as only one Xbox. The link in OP was for best selling in 2013 total, not just right now, and PS4 is significantly ahead.

Are we living in the past or present? I think what is happening currently is more important. Xbox is ahead now and it's only a matter of time before it takes overall right now.
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[QUOTE="gamebreakerz__"][QUOTE="rrjim1"]

http://www.amazon.com/best-sellers-video-games/zgbs/videogames/ref=pd_dp_ts_vg_1

This is the correct US page. It clearly shows the Xbox one is #1.

GONtheSKYLORD

Nope, that's best sellers right now, and Xbox is #1 because there are numerous PS4 SKU's on sale, where as only one Xbox. The link in OP was for best selling in 2013 total, not just right now, and PS4 is significantly ahead.

Are we living in the past or present? I think what is happening currently is more important. Xbox is ahead now and it's only a matter of time before it takes overall right now.

these are pre-orders. you're looking at neither the past nor the present.

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OK, Bessie. Whatever. Why do I call you "Bessie"? Because you are such a cow that I now I dentify you as one of the species.

My point is 100% on the mark. The XB1's sales have risen... a lot. I even made a disclaimer - in the thread that you are replying to - that read "I am not even going out on a limb and saying the XB1 is out selling the PS4. All I am saying is the gap is less." However, you are so bovine that you cannot even concede that point.

You are truly the biggest, blindest cow I have ever seen in SW.

StormyJoe

 

And your an Idiot that doesn't know matth...

 

In math 5 is bigger than 1,the xbox one has only 1 item so it is number one now,while PS4 sales divide into 5 different ones.

But on Gamestop the beating is so bad that the PS4 has 4 different sku on the top 12 including the first spot and the xbox one just has 1,and that is the one that should worry you the most lemming since gamestop i the biggest seller of console and games in US.

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[QUOTE="Chutebox"][QUOTE="clr84651"]

PS3 only struggled so much because Sony waited a year too long, overpriced it, and was also affected by difficulty to develop for. 

Of course a PS given a level playing field or more advantages will always win. 

There are many reasons to buy a PS4 over Wii U & XDumb One. 

clyde46

PS3 was not overpriced.

It is was.

 

No it wasn't there is a difference between expensive and over priced..

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[QUOTE="StormyJoe"]

 

OK, Bessie. Whatever. Why do I call you "Bessie"? Because you are such a cow that I now I dentify you as one of the species.

My point is 100% on the mark. The XB1's sales have risen... a lot. I even made a disclaimer - in the thread that you are replying to - that read "I am not even going out on a limb and saying the XB1 is out selling the PS4. All I am saying is the gap is less." However, you are so bovine that you cannot even concede that point.

You are truly the biggest, blindest cow I have ever seen in SW.

tormentos

 

And your an Idiot that doesn't know matth...

 

In math 5 is bigger than 1,the xbox one has only 1 item so it is number one now,while PS4 sales divide into 5 different ones.

But on Gamestop the beating is so bad that the PS4 has 4 different sku on the top 12 including the first spot and the xbox one just has 1,and that is the one that should worry you the most lemming since gamestop i the biggest seller of console and games in US.

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#134 tormentos
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http://www.amazon.com/best-sellers-video-games/zgbs/videogames/ref=pd_dp_ts_vg_1

This is the correct US page. It clearly shows the Xbox one is #1.

rrjim1

 

Yeah it also shows 5 PS4 bundles and just 1 for the xbox one,so yeah 5 combined >>> 1.

Look at the 2013 amazon best sold until now for best reference.

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We should thank them for giving up your credit card info and shutting down the network for a few months?GONtheSKYLORD

 

Credit card what credit card my PS3 never had one..:lol: PSN cards..:lol:

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[QUOTE="gamebreakerz__"][QUOTE="rrjim1"]

http://www.amazon.com/best-sellers-video-games/zgbs/videogames/ref=pd_dp_ts_vg_1

This is the correct US page. It clearly shows the Xbox one is #1.

GONtheSKYLORD
Nope, that's best sellers right now, and Xbox is #1 because there are numerous PS4 SKU's on sale, where as only one Xbox. The link in OP was for best selling in 2013 total, not just right now, and PS4 is significantly ahead.

Are we living in the past or present? I think what is happening currently is more important. Xbox is ahead now and it's only a matter of time before it takes overall right now.

Not a chance my friend. There are numerous PS4 SKU's in the top 20 best selling, they combined would most likely be above the Xbone in present sales. Irrelevant of that though, even if the Xbone sells more in the US, pretty much every other market has a pre determined bias towards Sony, especially Japan. PS4 will win the sales war this gen, saving some megaton announcements by MS. If the price of Xbone was the same as Sony then it would probably be leading the US market, but it's not, and it's not.
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[QUOTE="StormyJoe"]

OK, Bessie. Whatever. Why do I call you "Bessie"? Because you are such a cow that I now I dentify you as one of the species.

My point is 100% on the mark. The XB1's sales have risen... a lot. I even made a disclaimer - in the thread that you are replying to - that read "I am not even going out on a limb and saying the XB1 is out selling the PS4. All I am saying is the gap is less." However, you are so bovine that you cannot even concede that point.

You are truly the biggest, blindest cow I have ever seen in SW.

tormentos

And your an Idiot that doesn't know matth...

In math 5 is bigger than 1,the xbox one has only 1 item so it is number one now,while PS4 sales divide into 5 different ones.

But on Gamestop the beating is so bad that the PS4 has 4 different sku on the top 12 including the first spot and the xbox one just has 1,and that is the one that should worry you the most lemming since gamestop i the biggest seller of console and games in US.

*sigh* It's like arguing with someone that the moon is not made of swiss cheese.

Did I say that the XB1 has outsold the PS4? No. Did I say that the XB1 is currently outselling the PS4? No. What I did say is that the XB1 is selling better now since the "No DRM" annoucement. That is a fact, regardless of how much you don't want it to be, Bessie.

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#138 clone01
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*sigh* It's like arguing with someone that the moon is not made of swiss cheese.

Did I say that the XB1 has outsold the PS4? No. Did I say that the XB1 is currently outselling the PS4? No. What I did say is that the XB1 is selling better now since the "No DRM" annoucement. That is a fact, regardless of how much you don't want it to be, Bessie.

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Dude. He's the SW village idiot. And its hard to argue whilst fellating Sony.
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[QUOTE="GONtheSKYLORD"] We should thank them for giving up your credit card info and shutting down the network for a few months?tormentos

 

Credit card what credit card my PS3 never had one..:lol: PSN cards..:lol:

Well you are smarter than the average ps3 user. Hats off. You should consider coming over to xbox where you can interact with people on your level.
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[QUOTE="gamebreakerz__"][QUOTE="GONtheSKYLORD"][QUOTE="gamebreakerz__"] Nope, that's best sellers right now, and Xbox is #1 because there are numerous PS4 SKU's on sale, where as only one Xbox. The link in OP was for best selling in 2013 total, not just right now, and PS4 is significantly ahead.

Are we living in the past or present? I think what is happening currently is more important. Xbox is ahead now and it's only a matter of time before it takes overall right now.

Not a chance my friend. There are numerous PS4 SKU's in the top 20 best selling, they combined would most likely be above the Xbone in present sales. Irrelevant of that though, even if the Xbone sells more in the US, pretty much every other market has a pre determined bias towards Sony, especially Japan. PS4 will win the sales war this gen, saving some megaton announcements by MS. If the price of Xbone was the same as Sony then it would probably be leading the US market, but it's not, and it's not.

If that helps you deal with PS4 slipping, so be it. I only believe in the evidence I see, not assumptions and the One is clearly ahead no contest.
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[QUOTE="GONtheSKYLORD"][QUOTE="Chutebox"][QUOTE="LordOfPoms"] I'm amazed there is a debate about if the PS3 was overpriced. It was.

Overpriced yet they lost a shit load of money per unit sold? Doesn't make much sense. It was very expensive, but not overpriced.

It was priced higher than most people were willing to pay for it=overpriced.

No bud, that isn't how it works
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#143 GONtheSKYLORD
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[QUOTE="Chutebox"][QUOTE="GONtheSKYLORD"][QUOTE="Chutebox"] Overpriced yet they lost a shit load of money per unit sold? Doesn't make much sense. It was very expensive, but not overpriced.

It was priced higher than most people were willing to pay for it=overpriced.

No bud, that isn't how it works

That's actually exactly how it works. Sorry to break the news to you.
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[QUOTE="StormyJoe"]*sigh* It's like arguing with someone that the moon is not made of swiss cheese.

Did I say that the XB1 has outsold the PS4? No. Did I say that the XB1 is currently outselling the PS4? No. What I did say is that the XB1 is selling better now since the "No DRM" annoucement. That is a fact, regardless of how much you don't want it to be, Bessie.

clone01

Dude. He's the SW village idiot. And its hard to argue whilst fellating Sony.

I agree. Good choice of words, btw.

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#145 AzatiS
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[QUOTE="AzatiS"][QUOTE="-Damien-"]US http://www.amazon.com/gp/bestsellers/2013/videogames/ref=zg_bs_tab_t_bsar UK http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/bestsellers/2013/videogames/ref=zg_bs_tab_t_bsar Germany http://www.amazon.de/gp/bestsellers/2013/videogames/ref=zg_bs_tab_t_bsarGONtheSKYLORD
The main reason why MS changed thei whole plan and their policies. MS fanboys should thank Sony !!!!!

We should thank them for giving up your credit card info and shutting down the network for a few months?

You should thank them because they didnt follow MSs aggressive anti-consumer policies and thats why MS forced to change theirs. As for your irony let me tell you i dont even own a Sony console therefore no credit card info or network shutdown affected me ... In manner of speaking though , how was your RROD problems ? Did you RROD once , twice or more ? How is that any better than shutting down network for example ?

Typical butthurt fanboys :)

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#146 ManatuBeard
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[QUOTE="ManatuBeard"]

whats with the "cows" and "lemmings"? Im not getting it... (arrived late to the party)

Trail_Mix

http://www.gamespot.com/forums/topic/29096536/system-wars-rules-and-survival-guide

der ya go.

Thanks. However i think the "Cow" term needs updating, i dont see a bunch of accessories needed for the PS4 (or even the PS3), and i think "sheep" are rare now... lol

"Lemmings" seems apropriate, since they still believe in MS sincerity after all the mess, lies and policy changes.

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#147 GONtheSKYLORD
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[QUOTE="AzatiS"][QUOTE="GONtheSKYLORD"][QUOTE="AzatiS"] The main reason why MS changed thei whole plan and their policies. MS fanboys should thank Sony !!!!!

We should thank them for giving up your credit card info and shutting down the network for a few months?

You should thank them because they didnt follow MSs aggressive anti-consumer policies and thats why MS forced to change theirs. As for your irony let me tell you i dont even own a Sony console therefore no credit card info or network shutdown affected me ... In manner of speaking though , how was your RROD problems ? Did you RROD once , twice or more ? How is that any better than shutting down network for example ? Typical butthurt fanboys We should thank them for giving up your credit card info and shutting down the network for a few months?

Non of that is worse than PS3 hacked. People talk about 360 having a high 13% failure rate. With the entire network down, thats like a 100% failure rate for sony and to add insult, strangers are buying sextoys and who knows what with your credit cards.
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#148 White_Dreams
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[QUOTE="Chutebox"][QUOTE="LordOfPoms"] I'm amazed there is a debate about if the PS3 was overpriced. It was.GONtheSKYLORD
Overpriced yet they lost a shit load of money per unit sold? Doesn't make much sense. It was very expensive, but not overpriced.

It was priced higher than most people were willing to pay for it=overpriced.

expensive, not overpriced

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#149 I_can_haz
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People are arguing about this? Amazon Best sellers so far in 2013 lists PS4 launch edition at #2 (SOLD OUT) and lists Xbox Day One edition at #6.

 

 

Xbox Day One edition is at #1 in the current best selling list which is updated hourly because the PS4 launch edition is sold out and had to be taken off the hourly updated list.

 

 

 

 

:lol: This isn't rocket science stuff people (or maybe it is according to M$) the PS4 is leading.

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#150 Mozelleple112
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3 places = everywhere

Armoured_Mage
Please take time to think before you post... USA = #1 gaming market in the world which has typically been a stronghold for the Xbox franchise. The USA represents around 30% of the WORLDS gaming market. UK is the third largest gaming market in the world, the largest in Europe, which as a region covers 30-40% of the global market. Like the US, the UK has always favored Xbox consoles. Germany, is the fourth largest gaming market, so a decent size here. Japan is the second largest market, and the xbox has NEVER succeeded here, not even remotely close. So we all know PS4 will dominate here. This means that the PS4 is favoured in atleast 2/3s, maybe even 3/4s of the global gaming market, and possibly even higher.