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[QUOTE="Shewgenja"][QUOTE="Miketheman83"]Forza is the best racing game in the industry. Killer Instinct is a cult classic. Ryse looks like one of the best new IP's in recent history. Sony's launch lineup is a joke.

That's so cute. I want to scratch your tummy and feed you biscuits.

You might be stretching the truth with Ryse. lol

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[QUOTE="CanYouDiglt"][QUOTE="Shewgenja"][QUOTE="Miketheman83"] Why can't PS4 games achieve 60fps then?

http://spong.com/nibble/29852/Evolution-Studios-Targeting-60fps-1080p-for-DriveClub Here's another for you, since you've tucked tail and ran from your own thread now.

I could be proven wrong but I seriously doubt Drive Club is hitting the 60 fps mark. Hell at E3 which is just a few months before the launch it was dropping to 20 fps so it was not even close. Sure they would like 60 fps for their game and I would like to be a billionaire but what we wish would happen does not make it happen.

The demo build for the game was also a few months old. I'll try to find an article about that.

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#53 Truth_Hurts_U

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Alot of XBO morons on here QQ'ing about PS4 frame rate... Must have already forgot...

While all XBO games were running on high end PC... Most PS4 games were running on PS4 dev kits.

I can't wait till XBO launches and we get to see people graphing frame rate and do comparison shots of E3.

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#54 CanYouDiglt

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[QUOTE="Shewgenja"][QUOTE="CanYouDiglt"][QUOTE="Shewgenja"] http://spong.com/nibble/29852/Evolution-Studios-Targeting-60fps-1080p-for-DriveClub Here's another for you, since you've tucked tail and ran from your own thread now.

I could be proven wrong but I seriously doubt Drive Club is hitting the 60 fps mark. Hell at E3 which is just a few months before the launch it was dropping to 20 fps so it was not even close. Sure they would like 60 fps for their game and I would like to be a billionaire but what we wish would happen does not make it happen.

The demo build for the game was also a few months old. I'll try to find an article about that.

I heard that BS also with them saying it was only 35% done and I call bullcrap on that also. I just do not see a game and a console launching so soon they are only going to use a 35% done demo. Sony and Evolution know they are going against Forza and Xbox One so they will put their best foot forward. Like I said I could be proven wrong but I doubt it.

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[QUOTE="Miketheman83"]Forza is the best racing game in the industry. Killer Instinct is a cult classic. Ryse looks like one of the best new IP's in recent history. Sony's launch lineup is a joke.

Forza is not and the fact you flip-flop on whether it's a sim or just a racer really says a lot about it. Believe the best it can hope to match is being a jack of all trades, master of none. Killer Instinct looks like Street Fighter now and made by crappy devs Ryse.... ppfffft on-rails QTE fest. At least TRY. Loco Cycle might be good, it's at least unique. Dead Rising is also valid assuming they don't suck all the fun out of it and it doesn't somehow go multiplat like titanfall inevitably will. Your taste in games just sucks. Seriously though, the exclusive launch titles on both systems are kinda weak unless Killzone or Dead Rising are somehow like 10x better than their respective predecessors. Multiplats on the other hand...

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DriveClub was announced as a racing game with cars that the studio has gone borderline insane recreating accurately, and even in Sonys E3 build (which it told us is only 35% complete), the results are impressive.

http://www.ign.com/articles/2013/06/12/e3-2013-challenging-friends-in-driveclub

If this is indeed the case, then the demo at E3 could only have come from the Alpha phase. That means any art assets could be placeholders as well. Likely ported in using Collada or such.

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#57 CanYouDiglt

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Alot of XBO morons on here QQ'ing about PS4 frame rate... Must have already forgot...

While all XBO games were running on high end PC... Most PS4 games were running on PS4 dev kits.
I can't wait till XBO launches and we get to see people graphing frame rate and do comparison shots of E3.
Truth_Hurts_U

Killer Instinct, Forza and Fifa are all 60 fps and running on Xbox hardware. You can go read digital foundry. Nice try though.

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[QUOTE="Truth_Hurts_U"]
Alot of XBO morons on here QQ'ing about PS4 frame rate... Must have already forgot...

While all XBO games were running on high end PC... Most PS4 games were running on PS4 dev kits.
I can't wait till XBO launches and we get to see people graphing frame rate and do comparison shots of E3.
CanYouDiglt

Killer Instinct, Forza and Fifa are all 60 fps and running on Xbox hardware. You can go read digital foundry. Nice try though.

A fighting game, a racing game with prebaked effects (and no weather) and a soccer game are stable on X1?! /shocked

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#59 Truth_Hurts_U

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Killer Instinct, Forza and Fifa are all 60 fps and running on Xbox hardware. You can go read digital foundry. Nice try though.
CanYouDiglt

:lol:

Digital foundry...

:lol:

Same people that don't even know how MS came up with 88% yet tried to explain it.

:lol:

Nice try though.

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#60 ConanTheStoner Online

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I see no reason to buy a PS4 or Xbox One @ launch.
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[QUOTE="CanYouDiglt"]
Killer Instinct, Forza and Fifa are all 60 fps and running on Xbox hardware. You can go read digital foundry. Nice try though.
Truth_Hurts_U

:lol:

Digital foundry...

:lol:

Same people that don't even know how MS came up with 88% yet tried to explain it.

:lol:

Nice try though.

You never know, with the power of the cloud and the ESRam blast processing, maybe Forza will have rain.

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#62 CanYouDiglt

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[QUOTE="CanYouDiglt"]
[QUOTE="Truth_Hurts_U"]
Alot of XBO morons on here QQ'ing about PS4 frame rate... Must have already forgot...

While all XBO games were running on high end PC... Most PS4 games were running on PS4 dev kits.
I can't wait till XBO launches and we get to see people graphing frame rate and do comparison shots of E3.
Shewgenja

Killer Instinct, Forza and Fifa are all 60 fps and running on Xbox hardware. You can go read digital foundry. Nice try though.

A fighting game, a racing game with prebaked effects (and no weather) and a soccer game are stable on X1?! /shocked

Do you really want to go there? The person that created the PS4 made a game and it is called Knack and it can not even get a steady 30 fps let alone 60 fps. Killzone and Drive Club also are falling short.

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#63 Truth_Hurts_U

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You never know, with the power of the cloud and the ESRam blast processing, maybe Forza will have rain.Shewgenja

Trolls eat that stuff up.

Your giving them ideas and they will get fat from them.

:)

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[QUOTE="handssss"][QUOTE="ElectricEchoes"]
It's a racing game. Who buys a racing game for the weather or crowds. Poor attempt.
ElectricEchoes

You're judging games half a year before the system is even released and don't even know if they are current builds or not. and I thought Forza was supposed to be a simulator. Shouldn't it try its best not to skimp out on factors like weather that could seriously affect driving in a race?

Judging? I merely stated that nobody buys a racing game because it has dynamic weather/crowds. To elaborate, I will purchase a racing game based on how it plays, that's priority. Other contributing factors like weather are good, but if the gameplay is poor I don't care. If you want to moan about people judging games or even systems half a year before release, then please, go search through the threads on SW's and have fun replying. If there is anything to go by, then Forza is an established and proven franchise, arguably the best racing sim of all time.

If you give any sort of damn about racing simulation, you'll probably want the cars to behave differently than normal, even by only a little when the goddamn road is wet. Newsflash. It rains. In some places, it rains a lot. Rain is part of racing. So are other different weather patterns. Pretty big deal. I'll give the the crowd comment though. That actually doesn't matter whatsoever.

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[QUOTE="Truth_Hurts_U"]
[QUOTE="CanYouDiglt"]
Killer Instinct, Forza and Fifa are all 60 fps and running on Xbox hardware. You can go read digital foundry. Nice try though.
Shewgenja

:lol:

Digital foundry...

:lol:

Same people that don't even know how MS came up with 88% yet tried to explain it.

:lol:

Nice try though.

You never know, with the power of the cloud and the ESRam blast processing, maybe Forza will have rain.

Teh cloud is so useless.It cannot even cause rain:lol:

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Because our lord and savior of gaming has instructed us to.

Thank you Sony!

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#67 Pikminmaniac

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Reason #1 releases in early 2014

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#68 Sonysexual1

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[QUOTE="Shewgenja"][QUOTE="CanYouDiglt"]Killer Instinct, Forza and Fifa are all 60 fps and running on Xbox hardware. You can go read digital foundry. Nice try though.
CanYouDiglt

A fighting game, a racing game with prebaked effects (and no weather) and a soccer game are stable on X1?! /shocked

Do you really want to go there? The person that created the PS4 made a game and it is called Knack and it can not even get a steady 30 fps let alone 60 fps. Killzone and Drive Club also are falling short.

Same with that linear, QTE-fest game RYSE. Why can't a linear, inferior graphics game run at a stable 30 FPS like that open-world game with superior graphics called InFamous: SS?

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[QUOTE="Shewgenja"][QUOTE="CanYouDiglt"]Killer Instinct, Forza and Fifa are all 60 fps and running on Xbox hardware. You can go read digital foundry. Nice try though.CanYouDiglt

A fighting game, a racing game with prebaked effects (and no weather) and a soccer game are stable on X1?! /shocked

Do you really want to go there? The person that created the PS4 made a game and it is called Knack and it can not even get a steady 30 fps let alone 60 fps. Killzone and Drive Club also are falling short.

I guess the difference between you and I is that I understand game design and you don't. Optimization typically happens in the last two to three months of a videogame's development. I don't mind "going there" at all. As, by doing so, you are the one putting yourself in the untenable position of betting against world class developers achieving their targets based off of E3 demos for a console that hasn't released yet. I, on the other hand, am judging the product based on those goals instead. If developers wind up short of it, so be it. I don't see the Forza team raising the bar. It's really just as simple as that. It's easy to come first place when you are running against five year olds. In this case, Forza sacrifices things that are generally taken for granted as being in racing games (after all, real races take place in the rain DUH) while trying to sell you on Ghost driver laps and other such "cloud" nonsense. If ever there was a truer Microsoft product, it is Forza 5 from head to toe.

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#70 WilliamRLBaker

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[QUOTE="CanYouDiglt"]
Killer Instinct, Forza and Fifa are all 60 fps and running on Xbox hardware. You can go read digital foundry. Nice try though.
Truth_Hurts_U

:lol:

Digital foundry...

:lol:

Same people that don't even know how MS came up with 88% yet tried to explain it.

:lol:

Nice try though.

*in a few months when digital foundry reports nice things about a game he likes* OH yeah digital foundry!!

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#71 CanYouDiglt

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[QUOTE="CanYouDiglt"][QUOTE="Shewgenja"] A fighting game, a racing game with prebaked effects (and no weather) and a soccer game are stable on X1?! /shockedSonysexual1

Do you really want to go there? The person that created the PS4 made a game and it is called Knack and it can not even get a steady 30 fps let alone 60 fps. Killzone and Drive Club also are falling short.

Same with that linear, QTE-fest game RYSE. Why can't a linear, inferior graphics game run at a stable 30 FPS like that open-world game with superior graphics called InFamous: SS?

How do you know how linear Ryse is considering you only saw a short amount of the game? Also according to DF only one area of the game went below 30 and the rest was steady. So they only have to work on just a certain area of one stage.

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#72 Truth_Hurts_U

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*in a few months when digital foundry reports nice things about a game he likes* OH yeah digital foundry!!WilliamRLBaker

I never heard of them till E3... So that is how much I care. I'll just have it in the back of my head... ***Talks out ass*** for reference.

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#73 Sonysexual1

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[QUOTE="Sonysexual1"]
[QUOTE="CanYouDiglt"]Do you really want to go there? The person that created the PS4 made a game and it is called Knack and it can not even get a steady 30 fps let alone 60 fps. Killzone and Drive Club also are falling short.CanYouDiglt

Same with that linear, QTE-fest game RYSE. Why can't a linear, inferior graphics game run at a stable 30 FPS like that open-world game with superior graphics called InFamous: SS?

How do you know how linear Ryse is considering you only saw a short amount of the game? Also according to DF only one area of the game went below 30 and the rest was steady. So they only have to work on just a certain area of one stage.

So 30 FPS will be the target for linear, non-racing/fighting games on the xbox ONE, correct?

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[QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"]
*in a few months when digital foundry reports nice things about a game he likes* OH yeah digital foundry!!Truth_Hurts_U

I never heard of them till E3... So that is how much I care. I'll just have it in the back of my head... ***Talks out ass*** for reference.

They are fairly reputable. Them and Lens of Truth have a pretty good track record of keeping their story straight. This story about the ESRam is more of an oddity than anything.

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#75 WilliamRLBaker

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[QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"]
*in a few months when digital foundry reports nice things about a game he likes* OH yeah digital foundry!!Truth_Hurts_U

I never heard of them till E3... So that is how much I care. I'll just have it in the back of my head... ***Talks out ass*** for reference.

*laughs* bullshit, your level 63 on gamespot a good 50 of those levels from system wars posting, DF has been posted here multiple times.

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#76 CanYouDiglt

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[QUOTE="Shewgenja"][QUOTE="CanYouDiglt"][QUOTE="Shewgenja"] A fighting game, a racing game with prebaked effects (and no weather) and a soccer game are stable on X1?! /shocked

Do you really want to go there? The person that created the PS4 made a game and it is called Knack and it can not even get a steady 30 fps let alone 60 fps. Killzone and Drive Club also are falling short.

I guess the difference between you and I is that I understand game design and you don't. Optimization typically happens in the last two to three months of a videogame's development. I don't mind "going there" at all. As, by doing so, you are the one putting yourself in the untenable position of betting against world class developers achieving their targets based off of E3 demos for a console that hasn't released yet. I, on the other hand, am judging the product based on those goals instead. If developers wind up short of it, so be it. I don't see the Forza team raising the bar. It's really just as simple as that. It's easy to come first place when you are running against five year olds. In this case, Forza sacrifices things that are generally taken for granted as being in racing games (after all, real races take place in the rain DUH) while trying to sell you on Ghost driver laps and other such "cloud" nonsense. If ever there was a truer Microsoft product, it is Forza 5 from head to toe.

Oh stop acting like you are level headed considering you have always been a clown. The fact is the X1 has several games already running 60 fps on X1 hardware and PS4 has several games that can not even hit the 30 fps mark. The funny part is at best Sony fans are hoping for 30 fps while X1 is already hitting the 60 fps mark. Well the games release in just a few months so we will see who is right.

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#77 CanYouDiglt

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[QUOTE="CanYouDiglt"][QUOTE="Sonysexual1"]
Same with that linear, QTE-fest game RYSE. Why can't a linear, inferior graphics game run at a stable 30 FPS like that open-world game with superior graphics called InFamous: SS?
Sonysexual1

How do you know how linear Ryse is considering you only saw a short amount of the game? Also according to DF only one area of the game went below 30 and the rest was steady. So they only have to work on just a certain area of one stage.

So 30 FPS will be the target for linear, non-racing/fighting games on the xbox ONE, correct?

Why would that always be the target for the X1 when games are already hitting 60 fps unlike PS4 games. Also like I asked before how do you know it is linear when you only saw such a small sample of the game? Also at least that racing game can hit 60 fps unlike PS4's 20 fps racer.

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#78 Truth_Hurts_U

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*laughs* bullshit, your level 63 on gamespot a good 50 of those levels from system wars posting, DF has been posted here multiple times.WilliamRLBaker

I'm a high level with low post count... Because I don't sit on here all day long trolling or making BS posts.

If you don't believe me fine. I could care less. Hell I don't even know half the people on this damn forum or care to make any friends. I'm just here to look at opinions, make them and read some news that other sites are slow to report on.

I don't look at every Thread or post either. I skim read.

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[QUOTE="Shewgenja"][QUOTE="CanYouDiglt"]Do you really want to go there? The person that created the PS4 made a game and it is called Knack and it can not even get a steady 30 fps let alone 60 fps. Killzone and Drive Club also are falling short.CanYouDiglt

I guess the difference between you and I is that I understand game design and you don't. Optimization typically happens in the last two to three months of a videogame's development. I don't mind "going there" at all. As, by doing so, you are the one putting yourself in the untenable position of betting against world class developers achieving their targets based off of E3 demos for a console that hasn't released yet. I, on the other hand, am judging the product based on those goals instead. If developers wind up short of it, so be it. I don't see the Forza team raising the bar. It's really just as simple as that. It's easy to come first place when you are running against five year olds. In this case, Forza sacrifices things that are generally taken for granted as being in racing games (after all, real races take place in the rain DUH) while trying to sell you on Ghost driver laps and other such "cloud" nonsense. If ever there was a truer Microsoft product, it is Forza 5 from head to toe.

Oh stop acting like you are level headed considering you have always been a clown. The fact is the X1 has several games already running 60 fps on X1 hardware and PS4 has several games that can not even hit the 30 fps mark. The funny part is at best Sony fans are hoping for 30 fps while X1 is already hitting the 60 fps mark. Well the games release in just a few months so we will see who is right.

All I am saying is, the facts surrounding those games is that the most next-gen thing about them may be the packaging the disc comes in.

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Killzone- Mediocre franchise. Running below 30fps
Knack- Children's game Running at 30fps
Drive Club- Poor man's Forza. Also running at 30fps
What reason is there to buy a PS4 at launch?

Miketheman83

Well KZ is enough for me. And its a playstation. Do you really think there wont be games for it shortly after?

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#81 Sonysexual1

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[QUOTE="Sonysexual1"]
[QUOTE="CanYouDiglt"]How do you know how linear Ryse is considering you only saw a short amount of the game? Also according to DF only one area of the game went below 30 and the rest was steady. So they only have to work on just a certain area of one stage.CanYouDiglt

So 30 FPS will be the target for linear, non-racing/fighting games on the xbox ONE, correct?

Why would that always be the target for the X1 when games are already hitting 60 fps unlike PS4 games. Also like I asked before how do you know it is linear when you only saw such a small sample of the game? Also at least that racing game can hit 60 fps unlike PS4's 20 fps racer.

Because a racing game and a fighting game running at 60 FPS is not impressive... The ONE is a weaksauce machine. Why are you even bothering to defend it? The exclusives suck ass (Halo 4 87 metacritic says hi), the multiplats will run better on the PS4 (Confirmed by SONY exec) and the controller is inferior.

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#82 CanYouDiglt

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[QUOTE="Shewgenja"][QUOTE="CanYouDiglt"][QUOTE="Shewgenja"] I guess the difference between you and I is that I understand game design and you don't. Optimization typically happens in the last two to three months of a videogame's development. I don't mind "going there" at all. As, by doing so, you are the one putting yourself in the untenable position of betting against world class developers achieving their targets based off of E3 demos for a console that hasn't released yet. I, on the other hand, am judging the product based on those goals instead. If developers wind up short of it, so be it. I don't see the Forza team raising the bar. It's really just as simple as that. It's easy to come first place when you are running against five year olds. In this case, Forza sacrifices things that are generally taken for granted as being in racing games (after all, real races take place in the rain DUH) while trying to sell you on Ghost driver laps and other such "cloud" nonsense. If ever there was a truer Microsoft product, it is Forza 5 from head to toe.

Oh stop acting like you are level headed considering you have always been a clown. The fact is the X1 has several games already running 60 fps on X1 hardware and PS4 has several games that can not even hit the 30 fps mark. The funny part is at best Sony fans are hoping for 30 fps while X1 is already hitting the 60 fps mark. Well the games release in just a few months so we will see who is right.

All I am saying is, the facts surrounding those games is that the most next-gen thing about them may be the packaging the disc comes in.

And yet the person that even designed the PS4 is not able to even get a steady 30 fps let alone 60 fps and lets face it Knack is not some huge open world game like Skyrim it is a cartoon linear game. Yet he created how the PS4 would be built.

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#83 Truth_Hurts_U

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They are fairly reputable. Them and Lens of Truth have a pretty good track record of keeping their story straight. This story about the ESRam is more of an oddity than anything.Shewgenja

Lens of Truth now that is a site I know. They do some really good comparison articles. I actually visted their site a few times.

Where as DF I have never been on their site ever. Only recently I've been hearing about them because all the bazzillions of GD troll posts.

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#84 Miketheman83

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[QUOTE="Heil68"]Because our lord and savior of gaming has instructed us to.

Thank you Sony!

One exclusive and one multiplat? Lol you guys are pleased so easily. Killzone is running at 25fps with controller input lag. Have fun with that. I will be playing Forza with buttery controls at 60fps 1080p.

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[QUOTE="Shewgenja"][QUOTE="CanYouDiglt"]Oh stop acting like you are level headed considering you have always been a clown. The fact is the X1 has several games already running 60 fps on X1 hardware and PS4 has several games that can not even hit the 30 fps mark. The funny part is at best Sony fans are hoping for 30 fps while X1 is already hitting the 60 fps mark. Well the games release in just a few months so we will see who is right.CanYouDiglt

All I am saying is, the facts surrounding those games is that the most next-gen thing about them may be the packaging the disc comes in.

And yet the person that even designed the PS4 is not able to even get a steady 30 fps let alone 60 fps and lets face it Knack is not some huge open world game like Skyrim it is a cartoon linear game. Yet he created how the PS4 would be built.

http://youtu.be/657SvP7T4GU

Just sayin.

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[QUOTE="Sonysexual1"]
[QUOTE="CanYouDiglt"]How do you know how linear Ryse is considering you only saw a short amount of the game? Also according to DF only one area of the game went below 30 and the rest was steady. So they only have to work on just a certain area of one stage.CanYouDiglt

So 30 FPS will be the target for linear, non-racing/fighting games on the xbox ONE, correct?

Why would that always be the target for the X1 when games are already hitting 60 fps unlike PS4 games. Also like I asked before how do you know it is linear when you only saw such a small sample of the game? Also at least that racing game can hit 60 fps unlike PS4's 20 fps racer.

Well to be fair you keep bringing up games onn the PS4 that aren't done yet either and act like the PS$ CANT achieve that when its known that the PS4 has more powerful hardware. Do you really think the PS$ is not going to be able to hit 60FPS > That doesn't even make sense. But whatever, I know games on both systems at launch are nowhere near what we'll see in a couple years.

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#87 CanYouDiglt

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[QUOTE="CanYouDiglt"][QUOTE="Sonysexual1"]
So 30 FPS will be the target for linear, non-racing/fighting games on the xbox ONE, correct?
Sonysexual1

Why would that always be the target for the X1 when games are already hitting 60 fps unlike PS4 games. Also like I asked before how do you know it is linear when you only saw such a small sample of the game? Also at least that racing game can hit 60 fps unlike PS4's 20 fps racer.

Because a racing game and a fighting game running at 60 FPS is not impressive... The ONE is a weaksauce machine. Why are you even bothering to defend it.

Still waiting how you know Ryse is some major linear game? And if 60 fps is not impressive then why is Drive Club dropping to 20 fps?

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[QUOTE="Miketheman83"][QUOTE="Heil68"]Because our lord and savior of gaming has instructed us to.

Thank you Sony!

One exclusive and one multiplat? Lol you guys are pleased so easily. Killzone is running at 25fps with controller input lag. Have fun with that. I will be playing Forza with buttery controls at 60fps 1080p.

Dont care..LOCKED and LOADED..That's what I have reserved as of now, I'm buying like another 4 games plus I have game fly, I'm all set BRAH. I said it was coming out while you kept saying it never would. Awwww yeahhhhhh #legendary

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#90 Sonysexual1

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[QUOTE="Sonysexual1"]
[QUOTE="CanYouDiglt"]Why would that always be the target for the X1 when games are already hitting 60 fps unlike PS4 games. Also like I asked before how do you know it is linear when you only saw such a small sample of the game? Also at least that racing game can hit 60 fps unlike PS4's 20 fps racer.CanYouDiglt

Because a racing game and a fighting game running at 60 FPS is not impressive... The ONE is a weaksauce machine. Why are you even bothering to defend it.

Still waiting how you know Ryse is some major linear game? And if 60 fps is not impressive then why is Drive Club dropping to 20 fps?

- Doesn't matter if it's linear or not. The fact is, the ONE was struggling to play RYSE during a linear segment while having WORSE graphics than an open-world game.

- Because the game is not even half-way done? Optimizations come at the end.

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#91 CanYouDiglt

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[QUOTE="CanYouDiglt"][QUOTE="Sonysexual1"]
So 30 FPS will be the target for linear, non-racing/fighting games on the xbox ONE, correct?
Heil68

Why would that always be the target for the X1 when games are already hitting 60 fps unlike PS4 games. Also like I asked before how do you know it is linear when you only saw such a small sample of the game? Also at least that racing game can hit 60 fps unlike PS4's 20 fps racer.

Well to be fair you keep bringing up games onn the PS4 that aren't done yet either and act like the PS$ CANT achieve that when its known that the PS4 has more powerful hardware. Do you really think the PS$ is not going to be able to hit 60FPS > That doesn't even make sense. But whatever, I know games on both systems at launch are nowhere near what we'll see in a couple years.

If it is so much more powerful then why are the games performing less? Maybe it is more powerful and maybe it is not as powerful then the X1 as you thought. Also lets not act like we are years away. The games still have to have the finish touches, put on blu-rays, and shipped around the entire world so it is not even like they can work on the games till November.

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#92 CanYouDiglt

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[QUOTE="CanYouDiglt"][QUOTE="Sonysexual1"]
Because a racing game and a fighting game running at 60 FPS is not impressive... The ONE is a weaksauce machine. Why are you even bothering to defend it.
Sonysexual1

Still waiting how you know Ryse is some major linear game? And if 60 fps is not impressive then why is Drive Club dropping to 20 fps?

- Doesn't matter if it's linear or not. The fact is, the ONE was struggling to play RYSE during a linear segment while having WORSE graphics than an open-world game.

- Because the game is not even half-way done? Optimizations come at the end.

Now you are just not making sense. You said Ryse was a linear game and you could not back up that statement. Also how does it not matter if it is not linear or not? Do you not think there is a difference between a open world game and a very linear game? I personally have no idea what Ryse will be like but you seem to be jumping all over the place about it.

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[QUOTE="ElectricEchoes"]
Anyone know why Sony can't achieve 60fps of these firsty party titles? With the apparent hardware advantage surely games should run at 1080p/60fps.
Miketheman83

DDR5 has latency issues.

you have no idea what your talking about

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[QUOTE="Heil68"][QUOTE="CanYouDiglt"]Why would that always be the target for the X1 when games are already hitting 60 fps unlike PS4 games. Also like I asked before how do you know it is linear when you only saw such a small sample of the game? Also at least that racing game can hit 60 fps unlike PS4's 20 fps racer.CanYouDiglt

Well to be fair you keep bringing up games onn the PS4 that aren't done yet either and act like the PS$ CANT achieve that when its known that the PS4 has more powerful hardware. Do you really think the PS$ is not going to be able to hit 60FPS > That doesn't even make sense. But whatever, I know games on both systems at launch are nowhere near what we'll see in a couple years.

If it is so much more powerful then why are the games performing less? Maybe it is more powerful and maybe it is not as much more powerful then the X1 as you thought. Also lets not act like we are years away. The games still have to have the finish touches, put on blu-rays, and shipped around the entire world so it is not even like they can work on the games till November.

ok, so you think X1 is magic and can achieve 60fps and the PS4 cant, i feel ya brah. Still getting the PS4 though. :)

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#95 Sonysexual1

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[QUOTE="Heil68"][QUOTE="CanYouDiglt"]Why would that always be the target for the X1 when games are already hitting 60 fps unlike PS4 games. Also like I asked before how do you know it is linear when you only saw such a small sample of the game? Also at least that racing game can hit 60 fps unlike PS4's 20 fps racer.CanYouDiglt

Well to be fair you keep bringing up games onn the PS4 that aren't done yet either and act like the PS$ CANT achieve that when its known that the PS4 has more powerful hardware. Do you really think the PS$ is not going to be able to hit 60FPS > That doesn't even make sense. But whatever, I know games on both systems at launch are nowhere near what we'll see in a couple years.

If it is so much more powerful then why are the games performing less? Maybe it is more powerful and maybe it is not as much more powerful then the X1 as you thought. Also lets not act like we are years away. The games still have to have the finish touches, put on blu-rays, and shipped around the entire world so it is not even like they can work on the games till November.

So why was a linear game with worse graphics and no environmental destructability running WORSE than an open-world game with superior graphics (DF called it CGI-like) and destructibility?

Also, you know jackshit about developing games. The hardest part is setting up the base of the game. For the monopoly game project that I had, we spent 90% of our dev time trying to figure out how to set up the graphics and correctly writing the algorithm for the player's movement. All that made our project approximately 20% complete. The other 80% just came from copy & pasting the different scenarios that might occur with minimal editing. The optimization also didn't take up much time.

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#96 Sonysexual1

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[QUOTE="Miketheman83"]
[QUOTE="ElectricEchoes"]
Anyone know why Sony can't achieve 60fps of these firsty party titles? With the apparent hardware advantage surely games should run at 1080p/60fps.
NEWMAHAY

DDR5 has latency issues.

you have no idea what your talking about

It's common of xbots to not know what they're talking about.

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#97 Sonysexual1

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[QUOTE="Sonysexual1"]
[QUOTE="CanYouDiglt"]Still waiting how you know Ryse is some major linear game? And if 60 fps is not impressive then why is Drive Club dropping to 20 fps?CanYouDiglt

- Doesn't matter if it's linear or not. The fact is, the ONE was struggling to play RYSE during a linear segment while having WORSE graphics than an open-world game.

- Because the game is not even half-way done? Optimizations come at the end.

Now you are just not making sense. You said Ryse was a linear game and you could not back up that statement. Also how does it not matter if it is not linear or not? Do you not think there is a difference between a open world game and a very linear game? I personally have no idea what Ryse will be like but you seem to be jumping all over the place about it.

Your logic sucks. Read it again. Ryse was LAGGING during a LINEAR segment of the game.

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#98 CanYouDiglt

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[QUOTE="CanYouDiglt"]
[QUOTE="Heil68"] Well to be fair you keep bringing up games onn the PS4 that aren't done yet either and act like the PS$ CANT achieve that when its known that the PS4 has more powerful hardware. Do you really think the PS$ is not going to be able to hit 60FPS > That doesn't even make sense. But whatever, I know games on both systems at launch are nowhere near what we'll see in a couple years. Heil68

If it is so much more powerful then why are the games performing less? Maybe it is more powerful and maybe it is not as much more powerful then the X1 as you thought. Also lets not act like we are years away. The games still have to have the finish touches, put on blu-rays, and shipped around the entire world so it is not even like they can work on the games till November.

ok, so you think X1 is magic and can achieve 60fps and the PS4 cant, i feel ya brah. Still getting the PS4 though. :)

And I hope you are happy with your PS4 and I am sure you will be.

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[QUOTE="CanYouDiglt"][QUOTE="Sonysexual1"]
- Doesn't matter if it's linear or not. The fact is, the ONE was struggling to play RYSE during a linear segment while having WORSE graphics than an open-world game.
- Because the game is not even half-way done? Optimizations come at the end.
Sonysexual1

Now you are just not making sense. You said Ryse was a linear game and you could not back up that statement. Also how does it not matter if it is not linear or not? Do you not think there is a difference between a open world game and a very linear game? I personally have no idea what Ryse will be like but you seem to be jumping all over the place about it.

Your logic sucks. Read it again. Ryse was LAGGING during a LINEAR segment of the game.

DR3 has issues too, guess the game is going to suck and everyone would be best to avoid it. http://www.gamespot.com/forums/topic/29409849/dead-rising-3-on-actual-xbox-one-hardware-running-at-sub-30fps

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#100 Sonysexual1

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[QUOTE="Heil68"][QUOTE="CanYouDiglt"]If it is so much more powerful then why are the games performing less? Maybe it is more powerful and maybe it is not as much more powerful then the X1 as you thought. Also lets not act like we are years away. The games still have to have the finish touches, put on blu-rays, and shipped around the entire world so it is not even like they can work on the games till November.
CanYouDiglt

ok, so you think X1 is magic and can achieve 60fps and the PS4 cant, i feel ya brah. Still getting the PS4 though. :)

And I hope you are happy with your PS4 and I am sure you will be.

And I'm sure you'll be disatisfied with that inferior machine with crap exclusives, inferior multiplats and inferior controller.

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