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#101 Shewgenja
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[QUOTE="Heil68"][QUOTE="CanYouDiglt"]Why would that always be the target for the X1 when games are already hitting 60 fps unlike PS4 games. Also like I asked before how do you know it is linear when you only saw such a small sample of the game? Also at least that racing game can hit 60 fps unlike PS4's 20 fps racer.CanYouDiglt

Well to be fair you keep bringing up games onn the PS4 that aren't done yet either and act like the PS$ CANT achieve that when its known that the PS4 has more powerful hardware. Do you really think the PS$ is not going to be able to hit 60FPS > That doesn't even make sense. But whatever, I know games on both systems at launch are nowhere near what we'll see in a couple years.

If it is so much more powerful then why are the games performing less?  Maybe it is more powerful and maybe it is not as much more powerful then the X1 as you thought. Also lets not act like we are years away. The games still have to have the finish touches, put on blu-rays, and shipped around the entire world so it is not even like they can work on the games till November.

I'll simplify it for you. Let's say that you are training to be a ninja. You have a natural gift for throwing stars.. Like, you can chuck them behind your head and hit the bull's eye. However, with a sword, you have accidentally cut yourself twice and even accidentally let go of the sword and killed one of your class-mates (Honorable death, master is not displeased). Which are you going to take more time in doing better? Developers wrestle with this all the time, believe it or not. There are probably all kinds of animation sub-systems going on as well as the particle physics and god only knows what else. On top of that, if anyone is going to take advantage of the SPURS in PS4 first, it is Mark feaking Cerny. He is probably off-loading code to the CPU or GPU that should be interchangably addressed rather than sending it to Ram to be fetched by either component. So, while this early build chews through frames as a result, it is not in any way shape or form indicative of what the final product will be like. If a subsystem isn't working, he might toss it out and put something else in its place as time to go gold nears. YOU assume it's the PS4, but it could be a ton of things, not up to and including a subsystem running off of the CPU's cache being sent to the GPU and thus freeing the engine to go 30-60fps. On the other hand, you have Forza, which struggled so hard in pre-production to do something that PS2-era videogames do, that they scrapped it altogether as a feature. How does that feel?
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#102 CanYouDiglt
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[QUOTE="Heil68"] Well to be fair you keep bringing up games onn the PS4 that aren't done yet either and act like the PS$ CANT achieve that when its known that the PS4 has more powerful hardware. Do you really think the PS$ is not going to be able to hit 60FPS > That doesn't even make sense. But whatever, I know games on both systems at launch are nowhere near what we'll see in a couple years. Sonysexual1

If it is so much more powerful then why are the games performing less?  Maybe it is more powerful and maybe it is not as much more powerful then the X1 as you thought. Also lets not act like we are years away. The games still have to have the finish touches, put on blu-rays, and shipped around the entire world so it is not even like they can work on the games till November.

So why was a linear game with worse graphics and no environmental destructability running WORSE than an open-world game with superior graphics (DF called it CGI-like) and destructibility?

Also, you know jackshit about developing games. The hardest part is setting up the base of the game. For the monopoly game project that I had, we spent 90% of our dev time trying to figure out how to set up the graphics and correctly writing the algorithm for the player's movement. All that made our project approximately 20% complete. The other 80% just came from copy & pasting the different scenarios that might occur with minimal editing. The optimization also didn't take up much time.

Ok I am done since you keep acting as if Ryse is super linear with bad graphics. I have asked you a few times how do you know the game is very linear and you have never been able to answer yet. I do not even know why I bothered with a bandodger anyways.
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#103 Jack-Burton
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I think I'll get Bad Company and Watchdogs. Kz4 is the only Exclusive I have a slight interest. Hope more is announced for release in the launch window as that list is balls.
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#104 Heil68
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[QUOTE="Jack-Burton"]I think I'll get Bad Company and Watchdogs. Kz4 is the only Exclusive I have a slight interest. Hope more is announced for release in the launch window as that list is balls.

Bad Company???
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#105 Sonysexual1
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[QUOTE="CanYouDiglt"]If it is so much more powerful then why are the games performing less?  Maybe it is more powerful and maybe it is not as much more powerful then the X1 as you thought. Also lets not act like we are years away. The games still have to have the finish touches, put on blu-rays, and shipped around the entire world so it is not even like they can work on the games till November.

CanYouDiglt

So why was a linear game with worse graphics and no environmental destructability running WORSE than an open-world game with superior graphics (DF called it CGI-like) and destructibility?

Also, you know jackshit about developing games. The hardest part is setting up the base of the game. For the monopoly game project that I had, we spent 90% of our dev time trying to figure out how to set up the graphics and correctly writing the algorithm for the player's movement. All that made our project approximately 20% complete. The other 80% just came from copy & pasting the different scenarios that might occur with minimal editing. The optimization also didn't take up much time.

Ok I am done since you keep acting as if Ryse is super linear with bad graphics. I have asked you a few times how do you know the game is very linear and you have never been able to answer yet. I do not even know why I bothered with a bandodger anyways.

How low is your IQ? It doesn't matter if the other parts of the game are open-world or not. That segment they showed at E3 is what matters and it looked more linear and had more QTE prompts than GoW 3.

Your bullshit reasoning is that, assuming Ryse does have open-world portions in the game, both the lienar segments and the open-world segments are loaded together and running in real time together. Anyone with a brain in his/her head would tell you that is a stupid management of resources. The ONE is putting ALL of its resources to rendering that linear portion of the game. THAT is the point.

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#106 Jack-Burton
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[QUOTE="Heil68"][QUOTE="Jack-Burton"]I think I'll get Bad Company and Watchdogs. Kz4 is the only Exclusive I have a slight interest. Hope more is announced for release in the launch window as that list is balls.

Bad Company???

Battlefield 4, Day dreaming of BFBC3 again it seems.
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#107 CanYouDiglt
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[QUOTE="CanYouDiglt"][QUOTE="Sonysexual1"]

So why was a linear game with worse graphics and no environmental destructability running WORSE than an open-world game with superior graphics (DF called it CGI-like) and destructibility?

Also, you know jackshit about developing games. The hardest part is setting up the base of the game. For the monopoly game project that I had, we spent 90% of our dev time trying to figure out how to set up the graphics and correctly writing the algorithm for the player's movement. All that made our project approximately 20% complete. The other 80% just came from copy & pasting the different scenarios that might occur with minimal editing. The optimization also didn't take up much time.

Sonysexual1

Ok I am done since you keep acting as if Ryse is super linear with bad graphics. I have asked you a few times how do you know the game is very linear and you have never been able to answer yet. I do not even know why I bothered with a bandodger anyways.

How low is your IQ? It doesn't matter if the other parts of the game are open-world or not. That segment they showed at E3 is what matters and it looked more linear and had more QTE prompts than GoW 3.

Your bullshit reasoning is that, assuming Ryse does have open-world portions in the game, both the lienar segments and the open-world segments are loaded together and running in real time together. Anyone with a brain in his/her head would tell you that is a stupid management of resources. The ONE is putting ALL of its resources to rendering that linear portion of the game. THAT is the point.

I never said anything of the sort you weirdo. Dang not only are you making up crap about Ryse but now you are just making up what I was thinking also. No wonder you are a bandodger.
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#108 Sonysexual1
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[QUOTE="Sonysexual1"]

[QUOTE="CanYouDiglt"]Ok I am done since you keep acting as if Ryse is super linear with bad graphics. I have asked you a few times how do you know the game is very linear and you have never been able to answer yet. I do not even know why I bothered with a bandodger anyways.CanYouDiglt

How low is your IQ? It doesn't matter if the other parts of the game are open-world or not. That segment they showed at E3 is what matters and it looked more linear and had more QTE prompts than GoW 3.

Your bullshit reasoning is that, assuming Ryse does have open-world portions in the game, both the lienar segments and the open-world segments are loaded together and running in real time together. Anyone with a brain in his/her head would tell you that is a stupid management of resources. The ONE is putting ALL of its resources to rendering that linear portion of the game. THAT is the point.

I never said anything of the sort you weirdo. Dang not only are you making up crap about Ryse but now you are just making up what I was thinking also. No wonder you are a bandodger.

No, but that is what anyone with a brain would assume you're trying to imply by being so defensive. The ONE is using its all its resources to render that linear portion of the game. Do you have any disagreements with that previous statement?

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#109 CanYouDiglt
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[QUOTE="CanYouDiglt"][QUOTE="Sonysexual1"]

How low is your IQ? It doesn't matter if the other parts of the game are open-world or not. That segment they showed at E3 is what matters and it looked more linear and had more QTE prompts than GoW 3.

Your bullshit reasoning is that, assuming Ryse does have open-world portions in the game, both the lienar segments and the open-world segments are loaded together and running in real time together. Anyone with a brain in his/her head would tell you that is a stupid management of resources. The ONE is putting ALL of its resources to rendering that linear portion of the game. THAT is the point.

Sonysexual1

I never said anything of the sort you weirdo. Dang not only are you making up crap about Ryse but now you are just making up what I was thinking also. No wonder you are a bandodger.

No, but that is what anyone with a brain would assume you're trying to imply by being so defensive. The ONE is using its all its resources to render that linear portion of the game. Do you have any disagreements with that previous statement?

I said I have no idea about the game you weirdo. It could have large maps or linear for all I know. You are the one trying to act like you know exactly how the game is bandodger.
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#110 Sonysexual1
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[QUOTE="Sonysexual1"]

[QUOTE="CanYouDiglt"]I never said anything of the sort you weirdo. Dang not only are you making up crap about Ryse but now you are just making up what I was thinking also. No wonder you are a bandodger.CanYouDiglt

No, but that is what anyone with a brain would assume you're trying to imply by being so defensive. The ONE is using its all its resources to render that linear portion of the game. Do you have any disagreements with that previous statement?

I said I have no idea about the game you weirdo. It could have large maps or linear for all I know. You are the one trying to act like you know exactly how the game is bandodger.

Don't get your hopes up. I expect the game will run sub-10 FPS if it's open-world considering how badly it runs when it's linear.

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Great thread, would read again.

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No console is worth buying on launch, take it from someone who's done it before.
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#113 Sonysexual1
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No console is worth buying on launch, take it from someone who's done it before.TripleDownNow

I'm a little hesitant to buy any next-gen console ATM, but I don't know why anyone would buy the ONE... It's inferior across the board.

Inferior specs, inferior exclusives, inferior multiplats, and inferior controller.

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#114 Truth_Hurts_U
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No console is worth buying on launch, take it from someone who's done it before.TripleDownNow

I bought the original Xbox on launch week, 360 in launch year and PS3 6-7 months after launch.

Only time I got screwed was 360 RROD BS. *edit* Forgot that my Orginal Xbox had the crappy thomson drive and newer games failed to work right.

Nothing beats getting a new console with in the first year. Feels like X-mas.

Though this time I don't plan to buy a new version of the PS4. So I might actually get the extended warranty on mine, instead of tossing the papers to the side to get to the console.

:P

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#115 Shewgenja
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[QUOTE="TripleDownNow"]No console is worth buying on launch, take it from someone who's done it before.Truth_Hurts_U

I bought the original Xbox on launch week, 360 in launch year and PS3 6-7 months after launch.

Only time I got screwed was 360 RROD BS.

Nothing beats getting a new console with in the first year. Feels like X-mas.

Though this time I don't plan to buy a new version of the PS4. So I might actually get the extended warranty on mine, instead of tossing the papers to the side to get to the console.

:P

LOL, I still have my original Launch-Day PS3. Been considering getting a Super Slim, though. I really am glad the PS4 is not a giant behemoth.
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#116 Truth_Hurts_U
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LOL, I still have my original Launch-Day PS3. Been considering getting a Super Slim, though. I really am glad the PS4 is not a giant behemoth.Shewgenja

Oh yeah... Nice flat top... Less hard to dust spots and no power brick FTW!

Friend's can't stop talking about it lol. Gonna be one hell of a launch day. Gonna be rocking our PS4's.

I just hope all launch PS4 have fully charged controllers lol.

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DOWNCLOCKED.

 

This is the source of your butthurt ^.

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#118 Shewgenja
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[QUOTE="Shewgenja"] LOL, I still have my original Launch-Day PS3. Been considering getting a Super Slim, though. I really am glad the PS4 is not a giant behemoth.Truth_Hurts_U

Oh yeah... Nice flat top... Less hard to dust spots and no power brick FTW!

Friend's can't stop talking about it lol. Gonna be one hell of a launch day. Gonna be rocking our PS4's.

I just hope all launch PS4 have fully charged controllers lol.

And that, my good man, is why you ALWAYS buy a second controller. Charge one while using the other.
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#119 WilliamRLBaker
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[QUOTE="Sonysexual1"]

[QUOTE="CanYouDiglt"]I never said anything of the sort you weirdo. Dang not only are you making up crap about Ryse but now you are just making up what I was thinking also. No wonder you are a bandodger.CanYouDiglt

No, but that is what anyone with a brain would assume you're trying to imply by being so defensive. The ONE is using its all its resources to render that linear portion of the game. Do you have any disagreements with that previous statement?

I said I have no idea about the game you weirdo. It could have large maps or linear for all I know. You are the one trying to act like you know exactly how the game is bandodger.

just add him to abp.
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#120 Truth_Hurts_U
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And that, my good man, is why you ALWAYS buy a second controller. Charge one while using the other.Shewgenja

Yeah I used to always get a 2nd controller... But I figure since I'm not going to get one this time... I'll spend that $60 on the camera for PS4. I have a really long USB charge cable so I should be good to go if all else fails.

I hope Sony lets my PS3 media and wireless head set work with PS4.

I'll be using the camera mostly to chat because I hate wearing head sets... It's got 4 mic's to so it should cancel out the noise when I got my 5.1 surround sound going. :D

If anyone wants to play some couch co-op games (when ever they make them) I'll just tell them to bring their controller along. ;)

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#121 Infinite_Access
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You forgot Planetside 2. Which is what I'm most excited about... and ITS FREE!!
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#122 Sonysexual1
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[QUOTE="CanYouDiglt"][QUOTE="Sonysexual1"]

No, but that is what anyone with a brain would assume you're trying to imply by being so defensive. The ONE is using its all its resources to render that linear portion of the game. Do you have any disagreements with that previous statement?

WilliamRLBaker

I said I have no idea about the game you weirdo. It could have large maps or linear for all I know. You are the one trying to act like you know exactly how the game is bandodger.

just add him to abp.

2nd class gamers don't want to admit inferiority even when it's so blatant.

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[QUOTE="Miketheman83"]Forza is the best racing game in the industry. Killer Instinct is a cult classic. Ryse looks like one of the best new IP's in recent history. Sony's launch lineup is a joke.

Ryse... ar you serious... that game looked like garbage.. Kinect trash quickly turned into OPTIONAL qtes confirmed.
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#124 Sonysexual1
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[QUOTE="Miketheman83"]Forza is the best racing game in the industry. Killer Instinct is a cult classic. Ryse looks like one of the best new IP's in recent history. Sony's launch lineup is a joke.Infinite_Access
Ryse... ar you serious... that game looked like garbage.. Kinect trash quickly turned into OPTIONAL qtes confirmed.

It's funny how desperate lembots are getting. If those exclusives are so great, why are preorder sales so low?

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[QUOTE="Miketheman83"]Forza is the best racing game in the industry. Killer Instinct is a cult classic. Ryse looks like one of the best new IP's in recent history. Sony's launch lineup is a joke.Infinite_Access
Ryse... ar you serious... that game looked like garbage.. Kinect trash quickly turned into OPTIONAL qtes confirmed.

 

The game looked amazing, take off your fanboy goggles. People that have played it have referred to it as the "rich mans Gears of War".

The co-op gladiator challenges sound amazing.

 

 

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[QUOTE="Infinite_Access"][QUOTE="Miketheman83"]Forza is the best racing game in the industry. Killer Instinct is a cult classic. Ryse looks like one of the best new IP's in recent history. Sony's launch lineup is a joke.

Ryse... ar you serious... that game looked like garbage.. Kinect trash quickly turned into OPTIONAL qtes confirmed.

And Forza is mediocre at best. The only thing that was ever unique about the game was the creativity used in the custom paint jobs. Bizarre Creations made a much better Xbox racing game which is PGR. Forza is racing for n00bs. Lems will worship though.
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buying consoles at launch lol
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#128 Murderstyle75
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[QUOTE="Infinite_Access"][QUOTE="Miketheman83"]Forza is the best racing game in the industry. Killer Instinct is a cult classic. Ryse looks like one of the best new IP's in recent history. Sony's launch lineup is a joke.Miketheman83

Ryse... ar you serious... that game looked like garbage.. Kinect trash quickly turned into OPTIONAL qtes confirmed.

 

The game looked amazing, take off your fanboy goggles. People that have played it have referred to it as the "rich mans Gears of War".

The co-op gladiator challenges sound amazing.

 

 

So you are saying Ryse is going to require a rich mans budget? That doesn't even make sense. Anyways. Its a launch game. Its going to be shit just like pretty much all launch games.
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#129 Miketheman83
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[QUOTE="Murderstyle75"][QUOTE="Infinite_Access"][QUOTE="Miketheman83"]Forza is the best racing game in the industry. Killer Instinct is a cult classic. Ryse looks like one of the best new IP's in recent history. Sony's launch lineup is a joke.

Ryse... ar you serious... that game looked like garbage.. Kinect trash quickly turned into OPTIONAL qtes confirmed.

And Forza is mediocre at best. The only thing that was ever unique about the game was the creativity used in the custom paint jobs. Bizarre Creations made a much better Xbox racing game which is PGR. Forza is racing for n00bs. Lems will worship though.

It was the most critically acclaimed racing franchise of last generation, for good reasons. You should try it, they are really fun games.
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#130 Jakandsigz
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kILLZONE is not a system seller. But DriveClub might if they have some kind of special content for those that have GT6.
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#131 Jakandsigz
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[QUOTE="Infinite_Access"][QUOTE="Miketheman83"]Forza is the best racing game in the industry. Killer Instinct is a cult classic. Ryse looks like one of the best new IP's in recent history. Sony's launch lineup is a joke.Sonysexual1

Ryse... ar you serious... that game looked like garbage.. Kinect trash quickly turned into OPTIONAL qtes confirmed.

It's funny how desperate lembots are getting. If those exclusives are so great, why are preorder sales so low?

Let;s ignore that DRM issue for a sec.
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#132 Murderstyle75
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[QUOTE="Miketheman83"][QUOTE="Murderstyle75"][QUOTE="Infinite_Access"] Ryse... ar you serious... that game looked like garbage.. Kinect trash quickly turned into OPTIONAL qtes confirmed.

And Forza is mediocre at best. The only thing that was ever unique about the game was the creativity used in the custom paint jobs. Bizarre Creations made a much better Xbox racing game which is PGR. Forza is racing for n00bs. Lems will worship though.

It was the most critically acclaimed racing franchise of last generation, for good reasons. You should try it, they are really fun games.

I have both Forza 3 and Forza 4. Got Forza 3 with that ODST combo and bought Forza 4 for next to nothing when they were closing my blockbuster stores. Forza 4 is pretty much Forza 3.5 with a novelty Kinect feature I found pointless and Porche stripped away without a $20 license. I found PGR 3 and 4 to be much better games.
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#133 robbie80
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Killzone-  Mediocre franchise. Running below 30fps

Knack- Children's game Running at 30fps

Drive Club- Poor man's Forza. Also running at 30fps

What  reason  is  there to buy a PS4 at  launch? 

 

Miketheman83
It cheaper than Xbox one psn+ is better value and please no Xbox live better than ps4 psn+ network because console not out so you can t compare it to Xbox live yet.killzone running at 30 Fps who cares as along as it fun same goes for the rest plus rechargeable Ds4 the Xbox 1 controller needs batteries that doesn't even come with the console.The ps4 best value for money the Xbox 1 not so much only hardcore fanboy will pay high price for plus watch out for GameStop they won't take 360 with few marks on it dam GameStop i know I try.
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#134 Indicud
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canyoudigit is very stupid. Mike on the other hand is just trolling.
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#135 Indicud
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[QUOTE="Sonysexual1"]

[QUOTE="Infinite_Access"] Ryse... ar you serious... that game looked like garbage.. Kinect trash quickly turned into OPTIONAL qtes confirmed. Jakandsigz

It's funny how desperate lembots are getting. If those exclusives are so great, why are preorder sales so low?

Let;s ignore that DRM issue for a sec.

There isn't any.
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#136 Jakandsigz
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[QUOTE="Jakandsigz"][QUOTE="Sonysexual1"]

It's funny how desperate lembots are getting. If those exclusives are so great, why are preorder sales so low?

Indicud
Let;s ignore that DRM issue for a sec.

There isn't any.

Before they said there wasn't it hurt XBOX rep pretty bad really fast.
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#137 handssss
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[QUOTE="Infinite_Access"][QUOTE="Miketheman83"]Forza is the best racing game in the industry. Killer Instinct is a cult classic. Ryse looks like one of the best new IP's in recent history. Sony's launch lineup is a joke.Miketheman83

Ryse... ar you serious... that game looked like garbage.. Kinect trash quickly turned into OPTIONAL qtes confirmed.

 

The game looked amazing, take off your fanboy goggles. People that have played it have referred to it as the "rich mans Gears of War".

The co-op gladiator challenges sound amazing.

 

 

yes, because an on-rails QTE game with melee combat in a historical setting has a lot in common with a cover-based sci-fi shooter.

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#138 stereointegrity
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Lemming Butthurt Continuation:cool:call_of_duty_10
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#139 aroxx_ab
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Killzone-  Mediocre franchise. Running below 30fps

Knack- Children's game Running at 30fps

Drive Club- Poor man's Forza. Also running at 30fps

What  reason  is  there to buy a PS4 at  launch? 

 

Miketheman83

New CoD, new Assassins Creed, Drive Club, Watch Dogs, The Division and i need a new Blu-ray player:)

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#140 AdobeArtist  Moderator
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I think we've seen enough of this Launch Titles fad topic.

What say we wait for their actual release (for both PS4 and XBO) and see their actual review scores before attacking them?

Sound good to everybody?