PS4 lost another AAAe

I'm trying to purchase it, and wanted to change my password, but every time I try to change it I get: An error has occurred.

Now I'm trying to sign in after doing their support page thing, and I get this.

Now I remember why I don't purchase any Sony stuff. Their network is just awful.

EDIT: Well, I'm logged back in magically, so I'm trying to set up 2 factor authentication, and after entering in my phone number, I get this:

I guess Sony just doesn't want my money.

@recloud: You need a PS4 and your Vita to stream it, still exclusive.

Using PS Now, you don't need a PS4.

And please stop derailing my thread talking about emulation, this is a butthurt free zone.

I've played PS Now off my laptop and I always found it just fine for nearly every game on there. I had no problem beating several games during my year subscription, I find it pretty silly if people think you can't play Bloodborne on PC cause of the lag. I beat the 3 God of War games and the input lag really doesn't change much. The real complaint is the low resolution, which is why I enjoyed it most on my laptop.

While I wouldn’t go as far as claiming that Zelda isn’t exclusive to switch because you can emulate on pc, this definitely count as BB not being exclusive any more, it’s not even up for debate imo.

Jesus H Christ. I finally got it purchased and downloaded. This is probably the worst and most convoluted service I've ever used. I can't download PSnow from the playstation store after ordering it there. I have to go to PSnow.com, which they don't direct you to automatically. Then, you have to go to devices up top, and scroll down and select "get started on PC".

If you use the front page button here:

It takes you back to the playstation store, which doesn't even contain a link to get to PSNow.com.

This is honestly worse than the Microsoft Store. Lol

So, which one of the two categories it falls into, 'just as good' or 'better quality making it an exclusive'?

Loving all the deflection from the cows, they are sandwiched between two threads, in one they are saying quality matters and in the other arguing it doesn't and the games are 'just as good' on consoles as on PC. It's hilarious seeing the same cow now desperately trying to shift the blame to hermits for his own hypocrisy.

@scatteh316: Why are you screaming beggar everywhere? This thread is about a game that is out on PS Now, I don't see anyone begging for more.

I was able to get the free trial, but I can't even change my password. Every time I try to change it through email, I get: An error has occurred. Their fucking support is only open from 6 am to 10 pm. How the hell does a 24/7 service only provide support for a limited number of hours? Especially one that people tend to fucking pay for? This is one of the worst experiences with an online account I've ever encountered. I'm probably never going to buy another Playstation product again due to this garbage.

@pc_rocks:

1st and foremost, never tailor a generalized opinion on an individual based on assumption, for it kinda makes you look desperate and foolish. Going by SW definition of "exclusive" bloodborne is no longer an exclusive seeing that you don't need a ps4 to play it anymore. However this isn't the same case as the x1 exclusive debacle simply due to the fact that going by DF themselves, most if not all of the x1 exclusives that is also on the pc are better on the pc, while this isn't the case with the ps4 exclusives because of the somewhat shoddy quality of the streaming service of psnow.

And someone flooded their support forum with paypal spam.

Lol. Wow, such a disgraceful company. A multi billion dollar company that can't even hire people to support their own product.

Making a fuss over a console scrap and on top it all off, suddenly low resolution and 30fps doesn't matter to Hermits

#doublestandards

Actually, the same thing happened to me when I purchased the free trial. Auto renew was off when I added the card, and when I went to go look at the payment options again, auto renew was turned on. Completely scummy. I already took my credit card off, just in case, after I saw that.

My dear cow,

You are confusing me with lemmings. I'm a pure hearted and proud hermit. :D So, I don't give two shits about Xbox losing its exclusives. I never called X1 games on PC as Xbox exclusives. Now, that's out of the way. Kudos to you for being level headed and realizing that Bloodborne is no longer exclusive. Many of your fellow cow seems to have a problem with that.

Now, coming back to your first point, the opinion was shared by just one person but a plethora of cows in many threads, from the top of my head the thread about 'PC gaming being irrelevant' and a 'RTX worth it'. The opinions of your fellow cows are in sharp contrast to what they are saying in this thread, hence my original question which let me post again for your fellow cows:

1. PS4 lost its AAAE because of your 'just as good' argument between PS4 and PC games

2. It's still an exclusive because the quality is not the same between PS4 and PS Now, That make all multiplats on PC exclusives

Which rule should we follow today?

Somebody call a whambulaaaance. Poor scatteh has been hit hard by the news. The pic he keeps on posting is him having a heart attack because of the news. :D

You can more then have this....... I'm just getting massive smugness for 4k!! 60fps!! PC gamers doing a complete 360 and throwing out their 'high' standards of what's an acceptable resolution and frame for scrappy PS4 game.

So please continue ;)

Congrats on your second AAA entry under the 2018 PC section on Metacritic, I thought PC was going to finish with only AAA this year.

So, are you saying quality matters?

Try and twist it all you want Mr Hypocrite........

Hermits - Happy to use 4k and 60fps as means to claim ownage over PS4 saying 30fps 'unplayable' and no good.

Then happy to dismiss those 'standards' and goes along with a 720p streaming quality, with 30fps as ownage.

Hermits, once again showing how desperate they are to beat PS4 and that they will do anything to do it.

#doublestandards

PC gamers claim best performance.

PC gamers now claiming shit performance is also great.

You wasting your time with this clown?

I have time to waste as stuck in the office.

@scatteh316: TIL Bloodborne and AAAe are console scraps

@Random_Matt: Nobody here claimed the performance is great. It's about getting a highly acclaimed game

Well yes it is a console scrap as it peaked on PS4 years ago and it's served out it's purpose.

So enjoy 720p, 30fps with high input lag......that's if you can actually get through Sony's immensely difficult and buggy sign up process ;)

@GioVela2010 said:

@zaryia said:

@GioVela2010 said:

Lol when Hermits call this “winning”

• Metacritic 90+
• PS4 =24 (Winner)
• PC =14

• Metacritic 85+
• PS4 = 121
• PC = 121

Those numbers are wrong.

PC has 20 90+

Why you always lying

its 14 just like I said

You forgot 2013 you gerrymandering lying piece of trash. Fake Giovela rule #3421

P.S. Why are you even lying? I know you're trying to trick people into thinking PC is bad (hence the extreme gerrymandering), but why? After a decade don't you see nothing you've done has had any impact?PC software/hardware revenue has been rising since 2001 - being by far the biggest system. PC's player base exploded since 2001 - being by FAR the most played system (mind you, it was the least played when you started your crusade...good job!). PC's ports got better and more numerous since 2001 (everyone wants their game on PC). PC's lead at GS (the site we always used here) got better since 2001. PC creates and leads all the biggest and most played genres, essentially leading the industry.

It's nice to see that game it's still mentionned often as the best of PS4 is scrap

1. PS4 has a shit ton of indies on it's list too.

2. PC has the most big/mid budget games too. Console exclusives and exclusive genres (non indy) ensure this.

3. PS4 has a shit ton of re-scored backwards compatibility on it's list (aka pure padding). By these standards PC is even more ahead.

4. PS4 has dedicated padding, a majority of multiplats score higher on it due to having more dedicated review sources. Half of it's AAAs are from this method.

And yet PC still wins with a huge 100 point lead.

I have a mid-end PC and a ps4. I spend 80% of my time on ps4 because of the exclusives. PC is better for most multiplatforms, but thats it. There are almost no exclusives on it and destiny 2 is free on psn now.

Even if I had a 1080 ti, I would still prefer the ps4 because of the games.

1. Why would you play the far worse version of Destiny 2?

2. Most games released are multiplats though. You only play a handful of short single-player exclusives a year? If you actually play games, there's no reason your PC shouldn't have several times the hours of your PS4.

3. PC has several exclusives this gen, they just don't have review padding. Getting an 88 instead of a 92 doesn't make a game unplayable. I guess this is were genre preference comes in. If you like mmo, moba, crpg, arpg, rts, fps and tbs PC is the place to go for exclusives. IF you like short cinematic titles, PS4 is the place to go. To say PC has almost no exclusives because it doesn't have (or want) movie games is laughable.

In theory, we could play Star Citizen on a Nes via streaming, but it wouldn't be the same.

GioVela already destroyed you.

Let's talke about games that really matter hermit. Where are those AAA PC exclusives then? Since PC has more than indies you say.

What are you talking about, he sneakily took out an entire year to give PS4 a 94 game loss instead of a 114 game loss.....

PC has indie shovelware that gets high scores because they are indies. Games that matter, AA and AAA exclusives are best on PS4 this is common knowledge.

This is translated into sales, PS4 dominates. Butthurt PC beggar race members won't change that fact.

1. PS4 has indie shovelware that gets high scores because they are indies too though. PS4 also has rescored backwards compatibility. It still loses by 100 games some how.

2. PC has more 80%+ exclusives.

3. PC has more big/mid budget games. Console exclusives and exclusive genres (non indy) ensure this. You have to remember we have almost all of XBs library and get several Sony games that don't go to other systems. On top of several rts,tbs,mmo,moba,fps which are not indy. Are you confusing F2P for Indy?

4.

What. PC has the highest gaming revenue in the planet. Same goes for gamers. By a lot. Kind of matches how it has so many more high scoring games as well.

It's as if the system with the most gamers and games makes the most money. Rocket Science.

LOL of course PC has the highest revenue, it's a dynamic system VS a static system. And full of shovelware and other garbage to manipulate you like "free to play" shit, it's not much better than garabage on your smarthpone.

Also lol, PC's aren't only used for gaming, so it's impossible to know what sold best. Fact is we know PS4 is at 80+mil, Ms is too ashamed to give recent sales numbers for the xbone and switch is at 20mil. Like I said PS4 is dominating gaming.

PS4 has quality control unlike steam, another reason why PC has more shit.

Again PC has quantity (indie garbage) but lacks in quality, where are those AAA PC exclusives hermit? It's funny you're avoiding this question...but we all know why.

When did this gen start? PS4 came out in 2013 right? Look at the top metacritic games for PC...almost all of them are old as fck. PC gaming has been a joke.

From 2013-2018 PC has 411 high scoring titles at MC. PS4 has 298. For GS it is 380 vs 315.

@zaryia said:

@GioVela2010 said:

@zaryia said:

@GioVela2010 said:

Lol when Hermits call this “winning”

• Metacritic 90+
• PS4 =24 (Winner)
• PC =14

• Metacritic 85+
• PS4 = 121
• PC = 121

Those numbers are wrong.

PC has 20 90+

Why you always lying

its 14 just like I said

You forgot 2013 you gerrymandering lying piece of trash.

No 85+ PC games released in 2013 were after PS4’s release date

Stop trying to move goal posts

Without distorting the rules, the facts still stand.

• This Generation

• GAmerankings 90+ Exclusive
• PS4 = 8 (Winner)
• PC = 0

• Gamerankings 90+
• PS4 = 20 (Winner)
• PC = 8

• Gamerankings 85+
• PS4 = 88 (Winner)
• PC = 44

• Gamerankings 80+
• PS4 = 120 (Winner)
• PC =90

• Metacritic 90+ Exclusive
• PS4 = 9 (Winner)
• PC = 4

• Metacritic 90+
• PS4 =24 (Winner)
• PC =14

• Metacritic 85+
• PS4 = 121
• PC = 121

HAHAHAHA, GioVela owned you again with facts.

PC has no quality exclusives an only indie shovelware confirmed!

Now get out in shame hermit.

@GioVela2010

Fake Facts. He's taking out over 70 high scoring PC games for no reason what so ever.

1. He's using GR. We don't use GR.

2. He's excluding GS with no explanation. The site we are posting on and have used since this forum opened.

3. He's excluding 2013 and 80-84 games with zero explanation. As well as 80-89 Exclusives with no explanation.

If PC is dominating so hard, how come a big site like gamerankings shows a different picture than you're trying to paint hermit?

Come on, be honest, we all know PC has no AAA exclusives anymore.

Without distorting the rules? What rules, Giovela Fake Rules?

GerryMandering2010

1. If rules matter, you would use GS, the site we are posting at, the site we officially use most here from 2001-2013 and even current gen hype threads? You made this restriction up.

2. Why are you only using half of MCs high scoring games, randomly cutting off 80-84s? You made this restriction up.

3. Why are you only using one tenth of high scoring games for Exclusives, randomly cutting off 80-89s? You made this restriction up.

4. Why are you using GR? A site we never allowed here, or at the other 2 SW sites. You made this restriction up.

Raw tally 2013-2018. No rules. No restrictions. Just high scoring games:

MetaCritic:

PC: 411

PS4: 298

Gamespot:

PC: 380

PS4: 315

Pure data. No X/Y/Z doesn't "count". No arbitrary and separate cut offs for each thing I'm looking at. No special dates. There is a reason you had to run to GR.

@scatteh316: hermits claiming that emulation makes the game not exclusive is the bottom of the barrel.

Huh? GR isn't as big as MC. Actually I'm not even sure it's as big as Gamespot.

1. GR doesn't include a majority of PC reviews. Meanwhile GR includes most of console dedicated padding, which PC doesn't even have.

2. MC has those two issues, but it isn't nearly as harsh.

3. We have never used GR here. Such threads have been locked for over a decade. It was never included in any list. It was even banned from the other 2 SW sites.

Furthermore, of PS4s 24 AAAs, 9 of AA on PC. PC really is the better place for a gamer. 100 more high scoring games, the better version of most ps4 games. Good stuff.

@MonsieurX: Sweet Stalker, call jereb about this, he was the one that brought emulation to the thread.

With PS Now, you need a PlayStation 4 server to stream to the PC, so it goes both ways, the game is still exclusive.

Yup, braggin about emulation and having the most games because PC is getting the most shovelware is a new low for the beggar race.

RDR2 being exclusive for consoles sure is hard for hermits to handle.

@knight-k: hermits keep begging for them console games, need emulation, modding and a streaming service to make their money's worth... Poor hermits, truly the eternal beggar race, last at everything, a dying breed.

@zaryia: yet, you don't have a pc, you don't play any games and you need to damage control PC beggar last place irrelevant race everytime you feel threatened by consoles.

Jankarop's alt, you're so insecure.

1. First place in gaming software and hardware revenue, by 2-3x any other system.

2. Over 100 more high scoring games than the second next system at MC. 70 at GS.

3. Far more players than the second next system.

4. The biggest, most profitable, and most played genres and games on the planet are created on PC, and most played on PC. As you know, Consoles then follow afterwards (fps, battle royal, whatever is next).

Irrelevant? Sure.