PS4 lost another AAAe

• This Generation

• GAmerankings 90+ Exclusive
• PS4 = 8 (Winner)
• PC = 0

• Gamerankings 90+
• PS4 = 20 (Winner)
• PC = 8

• Gamerankings 85+
• PS4 = 88 (Winner)
• PC = 44

• Gamerankings 80+
• PS4 = 120 (Winner)
• PC =90

• Metacritic 90+ Exclusive
• PS4 = 9 (Winner)
• PC = 4

• Metacritic 90+
• PS4 =24 (Winner)
• PC =14

• Metacritic 85+
• PS4 = 121
• PC = 121

GerryMandering2010

You're excluding half of PC's library due to unexplainable arbitrary rules (Rules that can not be sourced/cited from MC). Why are randomly you leaving out so many games from 2013-2018?

You lied btw. PC has 20 90+. PC has 148 85+. Oh and it also has the most 80-100 Exclusives.

MetaCritic:

PC: 411 [This number doesn't remotely match up with yours. But I quadruple checked it. Are you leaving out certain genres? I invite anyone to check the 2013-2018 AAA/AA PC count.]

PS4: 298

Gamespot:

PC: 380

PS4: 315

Also you're completely leaving out GS, the site we've used and continue to use the most here. How convenient.

Nice DC. Loving it. Someone call the whambulance. :D

So, let's decipher the myth of me or any hermit being the hypocrite and serve you another ownage.

1. Aren't you the one that just few weeks back said no AAA PS4 game is on PS Now and won't ever be? Seems like Sony hurt you real bad.

2. How me or any hermit is a hypocrite instead of you. Aren't you the one that claimed games on PS4 looks and perform 'just as good' while ignoring the 60 FPS+, 2X resolution advantage, better AA, better AF, better effects etc. So, how's suddenly 'just as good' argument is not valid? Pretty sure 720p vs 1080p and still 30FPS is far closer than the gap between PC and PS4 games.

3. So, suddenly in this thread Bloodborne is still an exclusive because it runs at better quality on PS4. Funny how that wasn't the metric in PS4 vs PC debate in another thread. :D

#cowshypocrisy #cowsdesperation

Lastly, PC gamers didn't sacrifice their higher standards at all, we are all laughing at your hypocrisy because if anything your 'just as good' argument suits more to this situation than PS4 vs PC. How many worthwhile exclusives PS4 gets in an year and by extension in its entire lifetime? 10? So 10 one and done games vs the vast majority of superior games on PC. That 'just as good' argument JUST got flipped over. So we can save $400 for 10 'just as good' games. :D

LMAO, cows are getting desperate day after day. In a single day they are sandwiched between two threads with their conflicting arguments. So, which is it today?

1. PS4 lost its AAAE because of your 'just as good' argument between PS4 and PC games

2. It's still an exclusive because the quality is not the same between PS4 and PS Now, That make all multiplats on PC exclusives

Which rule should we follow today? Still didn't get an answer from any cow.

Hilarious, no what what cheery picked criteria cows choose PC still come out on top. *ROFLMAO.gif*

careful now, that doesn't fit his agenda.

Games that run like crap don't count according to him. I guess this means a large number of multiplats that aren't on PC just became exclusive.

Gamespot is far more likely to review an Indie game for PC only despite the game being available for PS4.

For example:

In the past 1.5 months alone, Gamespot has given the following games scores on PC only, despite the games being available for PS4 too

Golf Club 2019: 8

Phantom Doctrin: 9

Chasm: 8

Banner Saga 3: 8

That’s 4 games in 6 weeks.

At that pace that would be 35 games a year, or 175 games since PS4’s life

Nice try

Look who came to defend cows hypocrisy, the so called (not) hermit, LMAO. Why am I not surprised you're getting butthurt because cows have been called out on their double standards.

If its playable on PC in any shape or form, rather if its playable on anything other than PS4 in any shape or form, it is no longer exclusive.

@pc_rocks: ps4 didn't lose anything, you're playing on a PS4 server via streaming. It's still a PS4 exclusive, you're playing $99 a year to play a game we cows can play for less than $20, 3 years after its release.

Lol PC laster beggar race, have to stream, can't play games natively on their overpriced toy.

your starting to sound just like xbots now, lol, talk about butthurt.

That's not exclusive. You have to pay Sony in order to play it. Sony still laughs at you.

What a silly thread. When you can play it without any involvement from SONY, then that means it is no longer exclusive and you're playing a true multi-plat game. Multi-play games are when the developers take the time to develop for multiple platforms.

@ahmedkhan1994: I'm just destroying his silly logic.

Emulation doesn't make a game exclusivity go away.

Keep begging.

@ahmedkhan1994: so no ps4 game is exclusive since you can play them on ps Vita Via streaming lol.

Please point out someone who actually said that and you may have valid argument otherwise your just spewing BS. I can see them settling but saying its great? hell no.

@pc_rocks: ths only people with double standards here are hermits.

- claims that anything below 60fps and 4k is garbage

- claims that input lag on sub 60fps games is garbage

- Spins saying that it's fine.to play a game with 720p, 30fps plus input lag

So which is hermits? Are you saying that console gaming, 1080p/30fps is fine now? Is that what I'm hearing?

Hermits are starving so much for any good game and some ownage that they celebrate being able.to play a 3 year old game via streaming, a streaming that is made on a PS4 server by the way.

So, we can conclude that hermits are happy to play games on a ps4 via the Internet.

No wonder they're called the laster beggar race.

1. Liar. They are in the PS4 2013-2018 search list (which is were I got the numbers from). Here is screenshot evidence:

Like wise, Golf Club 2019 and Chasm are not on the PC list I'm using. Use their search feature, 2018-2013 for each platform. These games are either on both systems or on neither. Even if there were discrepancies, you would have to literally list every single one of them (that are real) and it would have to close the 70 game gap.

@zaryia: lol giovela made you butthurt

it doesnt matter what method, the game is "Playable"

Same is true for the xbox games being released on PC, you will use the "Xbox"/Microsoft Store/Windows platform/program on PC to play their games. So why does Sony get to keep calling their game exclusive???

Compressed 720p

Additional 66ms Input lag.

hahaha I’m still laughing

I caught him in another lie via proof.

It's okay though. PC won GS and MC. The two sites that we use here.

Lmao multiplats (most video games) on consoles.

@zaryia said:

@GioVela2010 said:

@zaryia said:

@GioVela2010 said:

• Metacritic 90+ Exclusive
• PS4 = 9 (Winner)
• PC = 4

• Metacritic 90+
• PS4 =24 (Winner)
• PC =14

• Metacritic 85+
• PS4 = 121
• PC = 121

Gamespot:

PC: 380

PS4: 315

Also you're completely leaving out GS, the site we've used and continue to use the most here. I've never seen anyone except you use GR, and like once every few years.

Gamespot is far more likely to review an Indie game for PC only despite the game being available for PS4.

For example:

In the past 1.5 months alone, Gamespot has given the following games scores on PC only, despite the games being available for PS4 too

Golf Club 2019: 8

Phantom Doctrin: 9

Chasm: 8

Banner Saga 3: 8

That’s 4 games in 6 weeks.

1. Liar. They are in the PS4 2013-2018 search list (which is were I got the numbers from). Here is screenshot evidence:

Like wise, Golf Club 2019 and Chasm are not on the PC list I'm using. Use their search feature, 2018-2013 for each platform. These games are either on both systems or on neither. Even if there were discrepancies, you would have to literally list every single one of them (that are real) and it would have to close the 70 game gap.

your screen shots just show they’re available for other systems, that doesn’t mean the score counted for those other systems

Oh yeah, I'm so butthurt from playing games on PC and PS4. More so than someone who has an out of date PC, and tries the PC bragging race, lol.

Some of the Xbox One games are trickier, because Gear of War 4 is on PC, but only through their store. You can't play it on Steam or other services.

If you want to call something like Gears 4 an exclusive (since it stays within the Microsoft ecosystem), go ahead. If you want to call it multiplat, go ahead.

Sony doesn't have an easy equivalent to go by since they don't have an Operating System or Windows-like store on PC. The definition me and most others would go by, however, is a multiplat game is when Bethesda, CD Projeckt or Ubisoft actually have people work on different versions of a game. Upcoming games like Fallout 76, Shadow of the Tomb Raider and Assassin's Creed Odyssey are multiplat no question.

Going by that, this Bloodborne on PC example doesn't work. From Software did nothing to develop or optimize Bloodborne for PC. You're playing it through a workaround, using Sony's PS NOW service on PC.

@zaryia said:

@GioVela2010 said:

@zaryia said:

@GioVela2010 said:

• Metacritic 90+ Exclusive
• PS4 = 9 (Winner)
• PC = 4

• Metacritic 90+
• PS4 =24 (Winner)
• PC =14

• Metacritic 85+
• PS4 = 121
• PC = 121

Gamespot:

PC: 380

PS4: 315

Also you're completely leaving out GS, the site we've used and continue to use the most here. I've never seen anyone except you use GR, and like once every few years.

Gamespot is far more likely to review an Indie game for PC only despite the game being available for PS4.

For example:

In the past 1.5 months alone, Gamespot has given the following games scores on PC only, despite the games being available for PS4 too

Golf Club 2019: 8

Phantom Doctrin: 9

Chasm: 8

Banner Saga 3: 8

That’s 4 games in 6 weeks.

1. Liar. They are in the PS4 2013-2018 search list (which is were I got the numbers from). Here is screenshot evidence:

Video proof that you’re the liar

227 to 256 since PS4 release date

4 PS4/PC games not counted for PS4 in past 6 weeks.

You said it better yourself, remove everything in your last sentence except for the underlined part and read what you yourself wrote.

Wrong.

I'm sure pirates and modders can figure out ways to play Nintendo and PS4 games on PC in some way. I still wouldn't call that "multiplatform"

No, PS Now isn't the same as illegal modding/pirating. But I don't consider Bloodborne a multiplatform release from From Software. You have technical problems with Bloodborne on PC? Tough luck. They aren't going to help you. They didn't make it for PC.

You want to know if there are more DLC updates, optimization features or PC extras coming up? Tough luck again. From Software is not going to add anything for the PC crowd. This isn't a multiplatform game.

PS Now is garbage, any cloud-based streaming service for games is garbage. The input lag is every gamer's worst nightmare and everyone here says PS4 lost something? Sorry but this isn't like MS Xbox Play Anywhere which by the way you'll get the full PC hardware benefits and using PS Now stream is consider PS4 lost an exclusive? Some of you are trying way too hard.

I already own Bloodborne on my PS4 and I rather play it on the console's hardware then dealing with the shitty streaming.

While i agree emu/modding/piracy shouldn't count, PS now is different. Now the goal post is being changed again. It doesn't matter if a game is legally playable on PC anymore, the game has to have support now as well to be considered multiplat.?

@GioVela2010 said:

@zaryia said:

@GioVela2010 said:

@zaryia said:

Gamespot:

PC: 380

PS4: 315

Also you're completely leaving out GS, the site we've used and continue to use the most here. I've never seen anyone except you use GR, and like once every few years.

Gamespot is far more likely to review an Indie game for PC only despite the game being available for PS4.

For example:

In the past 1.5 months alone, Gamespot has given the following games scores on PC only, despite the games being available for PS4 too

Golf Club 2019: 8

Phantom Doctrin: 9

Chasm: 8

Banner Saga 3: 8

That’s 4 games in 6 weeks.

1. Liar. They are in the PS4 2013-2018 search list (which is were I got the numbers from). Here is screenshot evidence:

Like wise, Golf Club 2019 and Chasm are not on the PC list I'm using. Use their search feature, 2018-2013 for each platform. These games are either on both systems or on neither. Even if there were discrepancies, you would have to literally list every single one of them (that are real) and it would have to close the 70 game gap.

your screen shots just show they’re available for other systems, that doesn’t mean the score counted for those other systems

WRONG, They are on the PS4 Search LIST I am using to count 2018-2013 titles.

I don't need to make a video when I can just post the link: https://www.gamespot.com/new-games/?sort=score&game_filter_type%5Bplatform%5D=120&game_filter_type%5BminRating%5D=&game_filter_type%5BtimeFrame%5D=P12M&game_filter_type%5BstartDate%5D=&game_filter_type%5BendDate%5D=&game_filter_type%5Btheme%5D=&game_filter_type%5Bregion%5D=&___game_filter_type%5Bdevelopers%5D=&___game_filter_type%5Bpublishers%5D=&game_filter_type%5Bletter%5D=

Phantom Doctrine is on the first page for PS4 games within the last 12 months.

Banner Saga 3 is on the second page for PS4 games within the last 12 months.

Look at that link yourself.

GR has even more discrepancies, mind you. GS is what we use here. It's what we always used here. MC is the second site we use here. PC wins at both.

@zaryia said:

@GioVela2010 said:

@zaryia said:

@GioVela2010 said:

@zaryia said:

Gamespot:

PC: 380

PS4: 315

Also you're completely leaving out GS, the site we've used and continue to use the most here. I've never seen anyone except you use GR, and like once every few years.

Gamespot is far more likely to review an Indie game for PC only despite the game being available for PS4.

For example:

In the past 1.5 months alone, Gamespot has given the following games scores on PC only, despite the games being available for PS4 too

Golf Club 2019: 8

Phantom Doctrin: 9

Chasm: 8

Banner Saga 3: 8

That’s 4 games in 6 weeks.

1. Liar. They are in the PS4 2013-2018 search list (which is were I got the numbers from). Here is screenshot evidence:

Like wise, Golf Club 2019 and Chasm are not on the PC list I'm using. Use their search feature, 2018-2013 for each platform. These games are either on both systems or on neither. Even if there were discrepancies, you would have to literally list every single one of them (that are real) and it would have to close the 70 game gap.

your screen shots just show they’re available for other systems, that doesn’t mean the score counted for those other systems

WRONG, They are on the PS4 Search LIST I am using to count 2018-2013 titles.

I don't need to make a video when I can just post the link: https://www.gamespot.com/new-games/?sort=score&game_filter_type%5Bplatform%5D=120&game_filter_type%5BminRating%5D=&game_filter_type%5BtimeFrame%5D=P12M&game_filter_type%5BstartDate%5D=&game_filter_type%5BendDate%5D=&game_filter_type%5Btheme%5D=&game_filter_type%5Bregion%5D=&___game_filter_type%5Bdevelopers%5D=&___game_filter_type%5Bpublishers%5D=&game_filter_type%5Bletter%5D=

Phantom Doctrine is on the first page for PS4 games within the last 12 months.

Banner Saga 3 is on the second page for PS4 games within the last 12 months.

Look at that link yourself.

Gamespot:

PC: 380

PS4: 315 (Including Phantom Doctrine and Banner Saga 3, as my above link shows)

GR has even more discrepancies, mind you. GS is what we use here. It's what we always used here. MC is the second site we use here. PC wins at both.

https://vimeo.com/288769620

You are so dumb, your list shows game availability for each platform. Not that the review scores counted for each platform. video above

So we are in agreement that Bloodborne is no longer and exclusive yes?

@Pedro said:

@jereb31 said:

@recloud said:

@jereb31: emulators don't count on SW.

Streaming is not running natively, so it doesn't count, the game is not running on PC, that silly, it's like saying PS3/4 games are not exclusive because they can be streamed to PS Vita, that makes no sense.

So, streaming or not, BB remains a ps4 exclusive.

You can go back to your begging now.

Beggars gonna beg, God, you're desperate lol.

You can put all of the restrictions you like on the argument, but fact is, I can play Bloodborne on PC and Breath of the Wild in 4k.

Can the PS4 play BoW in 4k?

Hahahahahaha!

@GioVela2010 said:

@zaryia said:

@GioVela2010 said:

@zaryia said:

1. Liar. They are in the PS4 2013-2018 search list (which is were I got the numbers from). Here is screenshot evidence:

Like wise, Golf Club 2019 and Chasm are not on the PC list I'm using. Use their search feature, 2018-2013 for each platform. These games are either on both systems or on neither. Even if there were discrepancies, you would have to literally list every single one of them (that are real) and it would have to close the 70 game gap.

your screen shots just show they’re available for other systems, that doesn’t mean the score counted for those other systems

WRONG, They are on the PS4 Search LIST I am using to count 2018-2013 titles.

I don't need to make a video when I can just post the link: https://www.gamespot.com/new-games/?sort=score&game_filter_type%5Bplatform%5D=120&game_filter_type%5BminRating%5D=&game_filter_type%5BtimeFrame%5D=P12M&game_filter_type%5BstartDate%5D=&game_filter_type%5BendDate%5D=&game_filter_type%5Btheme%5D=&game_filter_type%5Bregion%5D=&___game_filter_type%5Bdevelopers%5D=&___game_filter_type%5Bpublishers%5D=&game_filter_type%5Bletter%5D=

Phantom Doctrine is on the first page for PS4 games within the last 12 months.

Banner Saga 3 is on the second page for PS4 games within the last 12 months.

Look at that link yourself.

Gamespot:

PC: 380

PS4: 315 (Including Phantom Doctrine and Banner Saga 3, as my above link shows)

GR has even more discrepancies, mind you. GS is what we use here. It's what we always used here. MC is the second site we use here. PC wins at both.

https://vimeo.com/288769620

You are so dumb, your list shows game availability for each platform. Not that the review scores counted for each platform. video above

Phantom Doctrine and banner Saga 3 are included in the list of PS4 games that scored above 8.0. that I used for PC vs PS4.

https://www.gamespot.com/new-games/?sort=score&game_filter_type%5Bplatform%5D=120&game_filter_type%5BminRating%5D=&game_filter_type%5BtimeFrame%5D=P12M&game_filter_type%5BstartDate%5D=&game_filter_type%5BendDate%5D=&game_filter_type%5Btheme%5D=&game_filter_type%5Bregion%5D=&___game_filter_type%5Bdevelopers%5D=&___game_filter_type%5Bpublishers%5D=&game_filter_type%5Bletter%5D=

Your vimeo link isn't as good as a direct link from GS that posters here can just click on and see that both games are in the PS4 tally.

Page 1 and Page 2. Both games are in the PS4 tally from 2013-2018 8.0+ games.

Furthermore: GR is missing 100's of PC games. That's even worse. I'm so glad that we use GS and MC here!

It has to be created by the developer and have support. Or at the very least, be created by the developer (or a separate company porting it). Even Fortnite passes this test easily. No one hesitates to call that a multiplat game made by Epic.

Bloodborne doesn't pass the test. You're streaming the exact same PS4 code from 2015 with a workaround using a Sony service.The game will never change or have any additions or even attention from From Software.

Let's pretend MS made an "MS Now" service that can play on Apple computers. Would you like it if people said "Haha now Xbox One has no more exclusives. It's all multiplatform games from here on out. RIP Microsoft."

Streaming service is nice, but it's not multiplatform gaming. It lacks tech support, DLC, features, microtransactions, optimization - the things people use, expect and require out of a modern multiplat game these days.

Let me put it another way. If the PC version of Bloodborne (PS Now version) runs like absolute SHIT, do I laugh and go "Haha another shitty PC version. Hermits keep losing." Would you then own your words and say the Bloodborne PS NOW version is a true PC version? Doubt it.

Hahaha double standards? man, you guys are bitter about losing one of your HANDFUL of AAAE games overnight.

"buh buh an inferior version shouldn't count" .... by that logic PS4/XBOX have no f*cking games!

@whatafailure: if it's the only way to play then yes it is the true pc version. Also Xbox already lost all of its exclusives, that's a fact.

Find Games.

Not Find Reviews. Find Reviews doesn't adjust for your little problem. Find Games does. Gamespot is smarter than you, they already solved this problem.

You moron.

Gamespot:

PC: 380 Games

PS4: 315 Games (Including Phantom Doctrine and Banner Saga 3, as my above link shows)

Adjust for "missing" reviews, by GS themselves. Because they aren't privy of fanboy bullshit gerrymandering like you are.

@ahmedkhan1994: so no games are exclusive since emulators exist. Lol

If this forum wasn't castrated by legal grey areas, that would absolutely be the case in most non - politically correct places... in other words, life.

@kali-b1rd: lol, sorry, that's not how it works.

If you guys can change the rules , anyone can.

@kali-b1rd: nope.

In order to be non exclusive the game needs to be officially supported on that platform and it needs to be running with the code natively on said platform.

Streamed PS4 games are running a ps4 code on a ps4 server.

Emulators are not officially supported by the developers and publishers.

You're all so desperate for some ownage that you're grasping at straws and reaching new lows.

Pathetic.

Then no one has exclusives since you can just play the ROMs.

People claiming a game being played from a server as mulitplat, lol, your other platform isn't actually playing it.

@recloud: How/why am I a stalker replying to posts in my thread?

Thing is I don't need to buy a PS4 to play this game, making it obsolete

@whatafailure: Does that make P5 exclusive? Or any games on X1/PC only?

lol 10/10 logic

Source?

Is that part of the survival guide? when was this agreed?

Because common sense dicates if its playable without owning a specific system, its not exclusive.

That simple, but keep making up goal posts, it just shows how much better the PC is again.

"Oh hey remember those amazing PS2 games PS4 can't play... PC can in 4k!" only thing that is pathetic is your ever changing rule book that makes no sense and has no reflection on anything realistic.

Persona 5 is absolutely on PC, wether you scope-shrinking cucks want to cry about it or not.