PS4 more powerfull than your PC?

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#101 BakedDank420
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It all depends on how much Sony's gunna wanna charge for the PS4.

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#102 Firebird-5
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probably not

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#103 Jag85
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You mean price/performance right? Because if not....:lol:

Plus its not nine cores.

sandbox3d

I'm sure you must be in disbelief about the fact that home PC CPUs still haven't been able to match the Cell's nine 128-bit 3.2 GHz cores even after five years. It's too soon to be comparing current PCs to the PS4.

Eh? Proof please.lordreaven
You would have found it easily if you did a Google search. Nevertheless, here are two sources:

http://www.tomshardware.com/news/PS3-Roadrunner-supercomputer,5688.html

http://www.unthinkable.biz/home/article/687/

But can it run Crysis?

DreamCryotank

If it can run Crysis 2, which looks better than the original, then it can also run Crysis. The only limitation is the RAM, but that issue can be resolved with better texture compression and more efficient use of memory, much like Crysis 2.

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#104 SaltyMeatballs
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Depends when it comes out.
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#105 lundy86_4
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Well, yeah... My overclocked 4870 and e8400 will likely get stomped on. It's likely though, that my upgrade will stomp all over the PS4 though :P

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#106 James161324
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In 2015 sure, in 2012-2013 na i don't think so.

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#107 haberman13
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It is quite literally impossible that a console will ever be more powerful than a PC.

Consoles by nature are "just enough" to run games, PCs can be anything.

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#108 Pug-Nasty
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More powerful spec wise? Probably not.

More powerful in the application of running games? Probably.

It's just a matter of specialization, consoles by design allow for the most efficient use of the hardware by not having all manner of background stuff eating up processor power and ram, and also by having fixed hardware.

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#109 ronvalencia
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X850pro, Athlon 64 3000+, K8V-X, 1go of DDR1, an garbage no name PSU, SyncMaster 205bw, Razer Deathadder. Even a Wii is more powerful than my garbage (which i once bought for over 1200$ OMFG...) so DUH, the ps4 will power crush my garbage rig. DDR4 will be released next year, i expect a huge graphical jump in 2012.

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Wii's GPU is weaker than ATI Radeon 9600 Pro. K8 Athlon 64 3000+ can easily match Wii's PowerPC 750(G3) type CPU with 64bit SIMD at +700Mhz. Should we restart Mac PPC G3 vs AMD K8 AthlonPC debate again?

K8 Athlon 64 3000+ already has 128bit wide FADD SIMD(SSE) unit.

Intel Core 2 Duo introduced 128bit wide FADD SIMD (SSE) and 128bit wide FMUL SIMD (SSE).

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#110 dakan45
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Dude x360 was more powerfull than my pc on realease. Consoles get old, they dont get released weak.
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#111 ronvalencia
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Dude x360 was more powerfull than my pc on realease. Consoles get old, they dont get released weak.dakan45
Depends on the console e.g. PS3 vs NVIDIA Geforce 8800GTX based PC.
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#112 ronvalencia
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[QUOTE="sandbox3d"]

I'm sure you must be in disbelief about the fact that home PC CPUs still haven't been able to match the Cell's nine 128-bit 3.2 GHz cores even after five years. It's too soon to be comparing current PCs to the PS4.

[QUOTE="lordreaven"]Eh? Proof please.Jag85

You would have found it easily if you did a Google search. Nevertheless, here are two sources:

http://www.tomshardware.com/news/PS3-Roadrunner-supercomputer,5688.html

http://www.unthinkable.biz/home/article/687/

But can it run Crysis?

DreamCryotank

If it can run Crysis 2, which looks better than the original, then it can also run Crysis. The only limitation is the RAM, but that issue can be resolved with better texture compression and more efficient use of memory, much like Crysis 2.

Fold @ Home PS3 vs Fold @Home GPU 2(AMD Stream processor/NV CUDA processor) says Hi.

G8x = Geforce 8 GPU family.

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Like the Xbox 360's workload model, the PC side has AMD Radeon HD 2900/38X0/46X0/5165 (320 SPU/AMD Stream processor)or NV Geforce 8800/9800/250(CUDA processor) GpGPU. On both PC and Xbox 360, most of the math workloads are handled by the GpGPU.

On the workloads (i.e. games) that matter in GS SW, my DELL Studio XPS 1645 laptop's Radeon HD 5730M(400 SPU) GpGPU will kill PS3.

Note that, Xbox 360 Slim has it's own "CELL" i.e. fused IBM PPE X3 CPU+AMD Xenos GpGPU (SIMD array) = XCGPU (aka Xbox 360CGPU). AMD's Fusion APU would a type of CGPU.

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#113 04dcarraher
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[QUOTE="sandbox3d"]

I'm sure you must be in disbelief about the fact that home PC CPUs still haven't been able to match the Cell's nine 128-bit 3.2 GHz cores even after five years. It's too soon to be comparing current PCs to the PS4.

[QUOTE="lordreaven"]Eh? Proof please.Jag85

You would have found it easily if you did a Google search. Nevertheless, here are two sources:

Um No The PS3 doesnot have 9 usable processors nor is it a true 128 bit cpu. It has a PPE(main cpu) which is slower then a Pentuim 4, then has only 7 usable SPE's. The PS3 Cell is more of a gpu then a cpu because the SPE's act more like shader processors then normal cpu cores. Which means that in a out of order environment (using a computer OS)the cell's processoring power means nothing. Each SPE has to told what to all the time or its useless, and With apps like Folding @ home An intel Q6600 cpu or Geforce 8600GT gpu out processes the PS3 Cell. Which means The PS3 Cell has been smoked in that area. Now with the Cell processing.rendering 3d graphics by itself (no RSX) it does out do modern cpu's and that only because the SPE's are more like shader processors from a gpu then a normal cpu cores.

But can it run Crysis?

DreamCryotank

If it can run Crysis 2, which looks better than the original, then it can also run Crysis. The only limitation is the RAM, but that issue can be resolved with better texture compression and more efficient use of memory, much like Crysis 2.

No this is wrong in so many ways. Crysis 2 on consoles is not where near like Crysis 1 on Pc with Scale & Graphics. The PS3's abilities is determined byits GPU the RSX (gimped Geforce 7)and its memory. Crysis 1 uses more then double the amount of memory then the whole console has on a level let alone uses 512mb or more just with video memory. Crysis 2 has been been scaled down so much for consoles its not even "Crysis" anymore.

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#114 sandbox3d
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[QUOTE="sandbox3d"]

I'm sure you must be in disbelief about the fact that home PC CPUs still haven't been able to match the Cell's nine 128-bit 3.2 GHz cores even after five years. It's too soon to be comparing current PCs to the PS4.

[QUOTE="lordreaven"]Eh? Proof please.Jag85

You would have found it easily if you did a Google search. Nevertheless, here are two sources:

http://www.tomshardware.com/news/PS3-Roadrunner-supercomputer,5688.html

http://www.unthinkable.biz/home/article/687/

But can it run Crysis?

DreamCryotank

If it can run Crysis 2, which looks better than the original, then it can also run Crysis. The only limitation is the RAM, but that issue can be resolved with better texture compression and more efficient use of memory, much like Crysis 2.

This is really hilarious. Reminds me of 06 :lol:

Edit: Damn it, it made it look like I posted this nonsense lol.

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#115 Rckstrchik
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Considering the ps4 won't be released for about 6 years, probably. Who knows what we may accomplish technology wise by then? Probably not much but....

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#116 sandbox3d
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Considering the ps4 won't be released for about 6 years, probably. Who knows what we may accomplish technology wise by then? Probably not much but....

Rckstrchik

I don't get why everyone is hung up on the idea of this gen lasting forever. 6 more years really? You honestly believe Sonys next console wont be out till some time in 2017? I'd be surprised if Sony is still selling PS3s by then. The next Sony console will be revealed by E3 2012 at the very latest.

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#117 broken_bass_bin
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Well I would hope so. Considering my PC was bought at the end of 2008, I would be shocked and dismayed if they release a console in 2012-2015 that uses 4-7 year old technology.

Will it be more powerful than a PC of the time it's released? I seriously doubt it.

EDIT: basic mental arithmetic fail

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#118 Inconsistancy
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[QUOTE="Rckstrchik"]

Considering the ps4 won't be released for about 6 years, probably. Who knows what we may accomplish technology wise by then? Probably not much but....

sandbox3d

I don't get why everyone is hung up on the idea of this gen lasting forever. 6 more years really? You honestly believe Sonys next console wont be out till some time in 2017? I'd be surprised if Sony is still selling PS3s by then. The next Sony console will be revealed by E3 2012 at the very latest.

MS said the next xbox is probably going to be in 2015... 6 years is too much, but I'd not be surprised if they were both shooting for ~4 years.. = /
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#119 sandbox3d
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[QUOTE="sandbox3d"]

[QUOTE="Rckstrchik"]

Considering the ps4 won't be released for about 6 years, probably. Who knows what we may accomplish technology wise by then? Probably not much but....

Inconsistancy

I don't get why everyone is hung up on the idea of this gen lasting forever. 6 more years really? You honestly believe Sonys next console wont be out till some time in 2017? I'd be surprised if Sony is still selling PS3s by then. The next Sony console will be revealed by E3 2012 at the very latest.

MS said the next xbox is probably going to be in 2015... 6 years is too much, but I'd not be surprised if they were both shooting for ~4 years.. = /

If Kinect takes off for them in a major way then maybe. I really have my doubts though. As for the Ninty and Sony I strongly believe they will have new consoles out some time in 2013.

Wii hardware is badly showing its age at this point and slowing in sales (still dominating of course). I'm sure Sony would like to have a new platform on the market before MS this time around, plus they already have tech they can simply improve upon and still launch at a reasonable price. No need to worry about high Blu Ray and Cell costs this time around.

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#120 04dcarraher
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I doubt ethier Console will hold out pass 2013. Dev's have already hit the hardware limits and some will want to be able to do more and wont. Which is partly why your starting to see more and more devs's doing projects on Pc.
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#121 iamrob7
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This thread is pure comedy. If rumours are to be believed the next gen consoles won't even be up to par with a low end PC in 2013, nevermind a decent gaming PC.

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#122 tjricardo089
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Most likely.

i7-320 2.40 GhZ CPU

Nvidia GT320 Video Card

6GB RAM

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#123 SPYDER0416
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Well I don't know about being purely more powerful in raw power, but it will probably have better graphics for around a year or so then PC's that have come out. That's how it worked the last two times.

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#124 kris9031998
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My new rig im getting shall have 2x GTX 570's and i5 sandybridge at 3.8 ghz IIRC
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#125 deactivated-59f03d6ce656b
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Old thread is old. Probably not though, Sony learned their lesson with expensive consoles.
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^Blackbond unbanned.

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[QUOTE="Storm_Marine"]

^Blackbond unbanned.

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You're over a week late.=p

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#131 blackace
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Post your pc specs, do you believe the ps4 will be more powerfull than your pc?

caribo2222
The fact that there was be PC's out there that are more powerful then the PS4 pretty much says it all. Of course there are some PC's in people homes that won't be as powerful as the PS4. Sheesh, I have PC's at my job that aren't as powerful as the PS2. lol!! For playing games however, the hardcore PC gamer will definitely have systems that are move powerful then the PS4.
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[QUOTE="mitu123"][QUOTE="Storm_Marine"]

^Blackbond unbanned.

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You're over a week late.=p

Yesterday is the first time I was in SW since my last Nintendo thread.

You didn't see his returning to SW thread.D=
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Yo Blackbond. I've higher level than you now. Mad?

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#134 zarshack
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Probably will be better then my PC atm but once i have a job i will upgrade my PC and it will sh!t all over the PS4.

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#135 -Renegade
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This thread is pure comedy. If rumours are to be believed the next gen consoles won't even be up to par with a low end PC in 2013, nevermind a decent gaming PC.

iamrob7

We know ABSOLUTELY nothing about the PS4. For all we know it could be the most powerful machine on the planet when it is released. Xbox 360 on the other hand... don't need rumors to see where Microsoft is going with that.

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#136 mitu123
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[QUOTE="iamrob7"]

This thread is pure comedy. If rumours are to be believed the next gen consoles won't even be up to par with a low end PC in 2013, nevermind a decent gaming PC.

-Renegade

We know ABSOLUTELY nothing about the PS4. For all we know it could be the most powerful machince on the planet when it is released. Xbox 360 on the other hand... don't need rumors to see where Microsoft is going with that.

And IF so, like the PS3, expensive at launch!

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#138 campzor
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pc gaming cant even match up to the cell.... yet alone perfect cell
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#139 04dcarraher
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pc gaming cant even match up to the cell.... yet alone perfect cellcampzor
not sure if serious :?:
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^Blackbond unbanned.

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#141 goto0
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I'm not sure I'm allowed to fully disclose my PC's specs, but needless to say, I am currently running 64GB of RAM. I don't think any of the next-gen consoles will come close. Maybe the generation after next we will see consoles with tons of memory as memory continues to get larger and cheaper.

(To be fair, this isn't my computer. It belongs to the company I work for.)

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#142 BPoole96
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I don't think so

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#143 AmazonTreeBoa
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Will it be more powerful than the PC I have now that I build in 2006? Yes. Will it be more powerful than the PC I will be building in the near future? No.
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#144 dream431ca
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Post your pc specs, do you believe the ps4 will be more powerfull than your pc?

caribo2222

The way my PC is...no way.

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#145 YoshiYogurt
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probably I'm only packing 3.6 ghz cpu and no ti 560. Wouldn't be surprised.
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#146 NamelessPlayer
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Given that my PC's still using the same core components I built it with at the very end of 2007 (Q6600 3.2 GHz 8x400, 8800 GT, GA-P35-DS3P), I'm going to be very disappointed if any of the next-gen consoles are less powerful than that. Of course, by the time they release, I can easily put together a new PC that'll curbstomp them without breaking a sweat, provided that I have enough cash. My current PC may still be capable enough if all I do is replace the graphics card with a new one.
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#147 soulitane
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I'd hope that it is, my computer isn't exactly the most cutting edge thing around :P
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#148 glez13
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I was like :shock:

Annoyed Dragon the first one to reply!!!111

Then I saw the date. :x

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#149 NaveedLife
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4 GB Ram

GTX570

i5750 OC'd 4 GHz

NO WAY will it be better than my PC.

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#150 -Renegade
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4 GB Ram

GTX570

i5750 OC'd 4 GHz

NO WAY will it be better than my PC.

NaveedLife

PS3 at the time of release had a 3.2 ghz cpu and the best GPU available. What makes you think the PS4 won't follow the same path?