PS4 or Xbox 720 which one will be more for hardcore gamers?

I've been on the MS ban wagon since day one, over 10 years now. I have some concerns that Xbox 720 is not going to have hardcore gamers undivided attention. If Sony learns their mistakes from this gen, and maximizes upon their potential they will at the least convice me to buy a PS4. Anyway, who will cater more to hardcore gamers? We already know that MS maybe catering more for casuals but that doesn't mean they will spend less effort for the hardcore or does it?

You could've just edit:P

Anyways...

Like I said. The PS4.

PC by a large margin, then PS4/xbox720 tied, then another huge gap for WiiU.

I thought hardcore gamers don't play on teh kiddy consoles?

(Except for fighting games which are l33t and shun every scrub from a mile away)

We know nothing about the consoles.Why ask this stupid question?dumbass trolls.

PS4 undoubtedly, especially if you look at the last few years after Kinect(lol) was launched and what MS has given us.Heil68

We know nothing about the consoles.Why ask this stupid question?dumbass trolls.

MaskedPlayer

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We know nothing about the consoles.Why ask this stupid question?dumbass trolls.

Trinitarian

ohhh okk lets play speculation shall we

PS4 will be like **** it wooont even relese trorlrolrorltol.

XBOX720 will be casual crap.Filled with just Kinect,halo and cod.

Oh yh next gen consoles will be £100000000000000000000000

Happy now?Dumbass.

based off rumors ---- none of them actually , sony wants to go with move w a detachable controller , and they obviously dont have the resources for power

2ndly ms is already rumored to be working on a set top box version and an expensive version god knows next gen wont be cheap if they go for power

i say nintendo is the only one smart enough not to leave any bases uncovered!

PC by a large margin, then PS4/xbox720 tied, then another huge gap for WiiU.

Jankarcop

strange...didnt see where pc was mentioned..:roll:

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PC by a large margin, then PS4/xbox720 tied, then another huge gap for WiiU.

VanDammFan

strange...didnt see where pc was mentioned..:roll:

[QUOTE="Jankarcop"]

PC by a large margin, then PS4/xbox720 tied, then another huge gap for WiiU.

VanDammFan

strange...didnt see where pc was mentioned..:roll:

Well, he has a point.

Consoles are mainly ment for kids and families and for people who rather watch games than play them, hence "causal gaming".

When I hear the word "hardcore gaming" I usually think of competitive gaming and competitive gaming is the strongest on the PC these days with games like DOTA, LoL, StarCraft, ect.

Only games on consoles that compare would be fighting games (not all, as for example the Mortal Kombat series are viewed upon as "broken trash" by the fighting game communities) and shooters like Halo and CoD, but those are played with tumbsticks which offer much less precision than a mouse and are generally seen as "noob friendly" among the shooter experts.

PC also has much more complex games like flight sims (DCS, FSX), mil sims/tactical shooters (Arma, RO), racing simulators ("proper" racing sims, not "arcadey" ones like on the consoles), space sims (the upcomming Star Citizen), deep strategy games (Total War series), ect.

So of course, for any serious hardcore gamer, the PC should be priority.

The one without kinect.

If you are going to get one of them two PS4 is the best option. Sony will probably try some kind of new control input and then cast it aisde should it fail. Kinect is here to stay and Microsoft will throw a lot of mini game collections instead of designing actual games. And force the control in as much as possible.

Basically every mistake Nintendo made with Wii.

"Its hard to say right now. I do not think well have a console with a lot better graphics than the PS3 currently offered. I believe the future will be to offer consumers better and more accessible experience. The aim will be to make more people enter the world of video games and try to design titles for women."

- SCEE vice president James Armstrong

http://www.psxextreme.com/ps3-news/9316.html

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PC by a large margin, then PS4/xbox720 tied, then another huge gap for WiiU.

VanDammFan

strange...didnt see where pc was mentioned..:roll:

PS4, of course. It's pretty obvious after seeing the fate of the Xbox 360.

Both and the PC but not the Wii:U

[quote=""]"Its hard to say right now. I do not think well have a console with a lot better graphics than the PS3 currently offered. I believe the future will be to offer consumers better and more accessible experience. The aim will be to make more people enter the world of video games and try to design titles for women."

- SCEE vice president James Armstrong

StrongDeadlift

http://www.psxextreme.com/ps3-news/9316.html

Yeah, that sounds awkward. Guess Nintendo Wii U will be the console to go for the core gamer in the end :)

PS4.

Nextbox is just KinectBox v2.0

PS4.

Nextbox is just KinectBox v2.0

KillzoneSnake

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PS4.

Nextbox is just KinectBox v2.0

MaskedPlayer

Nice try, mr. Braindead. :roll:

Neither

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PS4.

Nextbox is just KinectBox v2.0

BlbecekBobecek

Nice try, mr. Braindead. :roll:

I think both of them are going to be catering to Hardcore and Casual. I'm just wondering if the PS4 will support the MOVE or not.blackace

They will both target the same audience as they are with their current gen consoles. They are not going to make drastic changes in their core markets. Sure we'll see more Kinect Casual fluff on the 720, but the 720 will still be primarly aimed at people that play COD and Microsoft 1st party franchises. Basically they will cater more to the people that are Xbox live Gold members.

Sony will make sure their next console is just as easy to develop for as the 720, so multiplats are on equal levels of performance. They will also expand their PSN+ offerings and hopefully create a totally new UI that is more user friendly.


$399.99 for PS4

$349.99 - 499.99 for 720.

Consoles will never be "hardcore".PernicioEnigma

Consoles will never be "hardcore".PernicioEnigma

pc of course

Xbox 720 by a million miles

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1. Fable 4 (100+ hours)

2. Dark SOuls 2 (500+ hours)

3. Elder Scrolls 6 (200+ hours)

4. Mass Effect 4 (50+ hours)

5. Alan Wake 2 (best action/thriller/adventure ever)

6. Witcher 3 (100+ hours)

7. FF 15 Agnes (100+ hours)

8. Halo 5 (best shooter on the planet, play forever and ever, infinite+ hours)

9. Gears 4 (best TPS on the planet)

10. Dust Elysian Tale 2 (top 2D action RPG)

11. Lost Odyssey 2 (100+ hours)

12. Blue Dragon 2 (60+ hours)

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On PS4

1. Uncharted 4 (5 hours) - Totally indifferent to me

2. ?

PC by a large margin, then PS4/xbox720 tied, then another huge gap for WiiU.

Jankarcop

console gamers are always going on about hardcore hardcore? autoaim? pay to play online? limited control options?i hear convinience is key so does that make console gamers casuals?

im not saying pc gamers are hardcore not saying console gamers aren't just frustrating to hear console gamers all saying they are hardcore without having a decent gaming pc.

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PC by a large margin, then PS4/xbox720 tied, then another huge gap for WiiU.

nameless12345

strange...didnt see where pc was mentioned..:roll:

Well, he has a point.

Consoles are mainly ment for kids and families and for people who rather watch games than play them, hence "causal gaming".

When I hear the word "hardcore gaming" I usually think of competitive gaming and competitive gaming is the strongest on the PC these days with games like DOTA, LoL, StarCraft, ect.

Only games on consoles that compare would be fighting games (not all, as for example the Mortal Kombat series are viewed upon as "broken trash" by the fighting game communities) and shooters like Halo and CoD, but those are played with tumbsticks which offer much less precision than a mouse and are generally seen as "noob friendly" among the shooter experts.

PC also has much more complex games like flight sims (DCS, FSX), mil sims/tactical shooters (Arma, RO), racing simulators ("proper" racing sims, not "arcadey" ones like on the consoles), space sims (the upcomming Star Citizen), deep strategy games (Total War series), ect.

So of course, for any serious hardcore gamer, the PC should be priority.

I think some people have a different view of "hard core gamer" then what it really is..Hard core gaming isnt what you play a game on OR even what game you play. Its about how well you know the industry,how long and how well you know a game,how many years youve put into gaming. Keeping up with everything..its not about pc vs console vs handheld..at all...

PS3 for the hardcore.

Wii U for the casual.

Xbox 360 for the casual and hardcore.

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[QUOTE="Jankarcop"]

PC by a large margin, then PS4/xbox720 tied, then another huge gap for WiiU.

nameless12345

strange...didnt see where pc was mentioned..:roll:

Well, he has a point.

Consoles are mainly ment for kids and families and for people who rather watch games than play them, hence "causal gaming".

When I hear the word "hardcore gaming" I usually think of competitive gaming and competitive gaming is the strongest on the PC these days with games like DOTA, LoL, StarCraft, ect.

Only games on consoles that compare would be fighting games (not all, as for example the Mortal Kombat series are viewed upon as "broken trash" by the fighting game communities) and shooters like Halo and CoD, but those are played with tumbsticks which offer much less precision than a mouse and are generally seen as "noob friendly" among the shooter experts.

PC also has much more complex games like flight sims (DCS, FSX), mil sims/tactical shooters (Arma, RO), racing simulators ("proper" racing sims, not "arcadey" ones like on the consoles), space sims (the upcomming Star Citizen), deep strategy games (Total War series), ect.

So of course, for any serious hardcore gamer, the PC should be priority.

Well, assuming whatever they bring out works well and is successful, both about the same. They'll cater for casual gaming and also for gaming which has some depth to it as usual, which is extremely popular. Both systems should also be powerful enough to attract full third party support.

People have different definitions for hardcore and casual, but that's a different topic. To me it's all just relative anyway.

PS4 no doubt.

PS3 for the hardcore.

Wii U for the casual.

Xbox 360 for the casual and hardcore.

crusadernm

translation:

PS3 for the hardcore with crappy casual offerings

Wii U for great casual offerings and some good first party core stuff

Xbox 360 for watered down everything