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#151 deactivated-5ba16896d1cc2
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Rofl delusional lemrats praying to god hoping that somehow someway the PS4 gets downgraded/downclocked
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#152 deactivated-5ba16896d1cc2
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[QUOTE="XBOunity"]

[QUOTE="Tessellation"]

i don't understand why sony needs to make an announcement regarding this shit if is not a big issue? this should matter to the developer environment and not costumers.

Tessellation

the article is still going to be interesting.   its about how the ram works,      i dont know what that guys deal was, but he is reputable right?

Cerny already explained that :S (Onion,Garlic buses), to me the only statement Sony can make is how the RAM is allocated for system resources.

Probably to go more in depth about Onion and Garlic pathways...
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#153 heeweesRus
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ROFL looks like the lemrats hopes just got squashed :lol: poor tesselation :(
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#154 RedentSC
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Rofl delusional lemrats praying to god hoping that somehow someway the PS4 gets downgraded/downclockedxboxiphoneps3
I don't blame them mate... i mean look at what they have to look forward to.... that would make anyone angry. Its just a shame they can't see the light of the PS4 or feel the butt stuffing they are currently receiving from M$... ignorance is bliss and all
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#155 silversix_
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They better not lower to 4gb or i will--------
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#156 LordOfPoms
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Small issue that isn't a story, but Sony taking steps to make sure the messaging is clear and transparent. MS should be taking notes on how to do crisis PR.
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#157 RedentSC
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They better not lower to 4gb or i will--------silversix_
put up with it because purchasing an X1 is equal to signing away your life to the US government? and your private fap time.... let not forget that.
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#158 deactivated-5ba16896d1cc2
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They better not lower to 4gb or i will--------silversix_
Extremely small chance that happens.. Official spec list says 8 gb of ram and PS4 already went through FCC with ram speed clocked at 2.75 ghz x 2=5.5 ghz per sec ram speed
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#159 deactivated-5ba16896d1cc2
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[QUOTE="deeliman"][QUOTE="RedentSC"] Any post you make is automatically invalid .. just sayingCallOfDutyRulez

He is the defenition of a fakeboy.

- Insiders confirm 5 billion transistor is for GPU ONLY.

2x AMD 7970 = 5 billion transistor.

>768 ALU for the GPU

Nvidia GTX 680 = 1536 ALU
AMD 7970 = 2048 ALU
Nvidia's architecture is more efficient, so its 1536 ALU can beat 7970's 2048 ALU

So to beat titan with 2880 ALU, AMD must provide a GCN 1.0 performance of 3840 ALU or 1.3 times of ALU number for titan.

Since Nvidia Titan has 2880 ALU, the ONE's AMD GPU must be at least 3840 ALU on GCN 1.0.

AMD recently created GCN 2.0 GPU with 2880 ALU and claimed it would work more efficiently than NVIDIA's titan.

More specifically, GCN 2.0 will have 30-40% better efficient design, meaning that with GCN 2.0, the ONE's GPU would only need 2880 ALU.

Makes no sense, the eSRAM takes up about 2 billion transistors... If the GPU alone was 5 billion transistors it would have much more then 12 CU'S LOL... fail lemrat
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#160 silversix_
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Would be great if they lowered to 4gb but gave us a much stronger gpu like the 7950 tho. Find a way so OS uses no more than 500mb and i think 3.5gb of gddr5 with a much strong gpu would be nice
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#161 deactivated-5ba16896d1cc2
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Would be great if they lowered to 4gb but gave us a much stronger gpu like the 7950 tho. Find a way so OS uses no more than 500mb and i think 3.5gb of gddr5 with a much strong gpu would be nicesilversix_
There not going to lower the RAM and there not going to completly change their APU design and design and cooling of PS4 and add a  stronger, bigger, GPU 2-3 momths away from launch. I do hope they upclock the ps4 gpu though that would be very nice. Even 800 mhz to 850 mhz would be sick

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#162 campzor
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Its probably nothing. Would suck if there was a downgrade in any way
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#163 XBOunity
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Its probably nothing. Would suck if there was a downgrade in any way campzor

It is nothing maybe just some obvious stuff

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#164 Farsendor1
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This turned out to be nothing. Sure had a lot of fun in GAF 

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#165 Heil68
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I'm sure what ever Sony decides to do it for the best, so no need to worry.
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#166 XBOunity
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This turned out to be nothing. Sure had a lot of fun in GAF 

Farsendor1

Wish he said nothing and let the suspense build.

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#167 campzor
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Oh thank god, its nothing. $&%#+& translator.....
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#168 Heil68
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[QUOTE="timbers_WSU"]

Tomorrow is gonna be good.

XBOunity
I don't think it will be much

Some Xbox fans premature ejaculated over potential bad PS4 news
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#169 XBOunity
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[QUOTE="XBOunity"][QUOTE="timbers_WSU"]

Tomorrow is gonna be good.

Heil68

I don't think it will be much

Some Xbox fans premature ejaculated over potential bad PS4 news

I knew it was bullshit but was fun stirring the pot.    I do wonder what his article says when it comes out

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#170 stereointegrity
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[QUOTE="Heil68"][QUOTE="XBOunity"] I don't think it will be muchXBOunity

Some Xbox fans premature ejaculated over potential bad PS4 news

I knew it was bullshit but was fun stirring the pot.    I do wonder what his article says when it comes out

u did call BS on page 1 so i give u credit..
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#171 KarateeeChop
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so it's confirmed. wow, only sony is dispicable enough to downgrade the ram prior to launch. so glad i stopped supporting this company.

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#172 super600  Moderator
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It's good to hear that this isn't anything major, but the memory article will be interesting.

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#173 Bazooka_4ME
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:lol: lems' dreams squashed again.
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#174 XBOunity
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It's good to hear that this isn't anything major, but the memory article will be interesting.

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Dat onion and garlic sauce

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#175 navyguy21
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Its official PS4s RAM will be used to power Skynet.
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#176 campzor
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so it's confirmed. wow, only sony is dispicable enough to downgrade the ram prior to launch. so glad i stopped supporting this company.

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well it wasnt confirmed, so its dispicable of you for being such a bad troll.
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#177 silversix_
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So it was nothing? I wanted some spicy stuff to happen and nothing did :(
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#178 XBOunity
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So it was nothing? I wanted some spicy stuff to happen and nothing did :(silversix_

Or at least gives us a night to talk Bout this and see meltdowns,  was a great party till we got thrown out 

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#179 stereointegrity
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so it's confirmed. wow, only sony is dispicable enough to downgrade the ram prior to launch. so glad i stopped supporting this company.

KarateeeChop
already passed through the FCC but i like ur trolling
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#180 stereointegrity
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[QUOTE="super600"]

It's good to hear that this isn't anything major, but the memory article will be interesting.

XBOunity

Dat onion and garlic sauce

:lol:
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#181 Gxgear
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Posting in an epic, self-owning thread.

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#182 gago-gago
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PS4 doing a 180 for the worst as expected.
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#183 Tighaman
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[QUOTE="deeliman"][QUOTE="RedentSC"] Any post you make is automatically invalid .. just sayingCallOfDutyRulez

He is the defenition of a fakeboy.

- Insiders confirm 5 billion transistor is for GPU ONLY.

2x AMD 7970 = 5 billion transistor.

>768 ALU for the GPU

Nvidia GTX 680 = 1536 ALU
AMD 7970 = 2048 ALU
Nvidia's architecture is more efficient, so its 1536 ALU can beat 7970's 2048 ALU

So to beat titan with 2880 ALU, AMD must provide a GCN 1.0 performance of 3840 ALU or 1.3 times of ALU number for titan.

Since Nvidia Titan has 2880 ALU, the ONE's AMD GPU must be at least 3840 ALU on GCN 1.0.

AMD recently created GCN 2.0 GPU with 2880 ALU and claimed it would work more efficiently than NVIDIA's titan.

More specifically, GCN 2.0 will have 30-40% better efficient design, meaning that with GCN 2.0, the ONE's GPU would only need 2880 ALU.

wasnt you the same guy arguing with me about what they had in the PS4 dev kits? Didnt i say it wasnt gonna work because the dev kits had ddr3 for the cpu?

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#184 XxR3m1xInHDn3D
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Can't wait to see all the tears because of how cows see rumours as facts all the time.
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#185 loosingENDS
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From Eurogamer Spain's sub director twitter:
>PS4 Memory drama. More info soon
>The article will be publish tomorrow, it's better like this, will be more info.
>A very interesting tech article, 24 hours delay because Sony want to make statements.
>http://i.imgur.com/5cM6MZS.png
>http://i.imgur.com/ocsuUR1.png

Some sort of drama is underway with the Playstation 4, the article would have been out today but it's delayed until tommorow because Sony is "preparing statements".

RAM Downgrade incoming?


GDDR5 has reported to be a problem with some devs, it fails at doing small tasks & has insanely high latency 
But so did N64 & somewhat PS2, devs worked around it, I seriously doubt this is a heat issue, so im not sure what it is.

Perhaps they are doing DDR3 for main system ram & GDDR5 for the VRAM, which would be much better, devs would love Sony long time for that.

PS4's memory bus can only do around 2gb's of VRAM efficiently, anymore & performance starts to go down the drain, 3gb's of VRAM at best can be used, so having the whole system use 8gb's of GDDR5 ram when the APU can't really use more than 3gb's as VRAM, was kind of stupid.


ClassicRockFTW

Well, Sony engineers would have to go through highschool again then, because even a small kid would see that design flaw, if that flaw is like what you describe of course

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#186 Shensolidus
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There actually is no drama - the poster on twitter has gone to say the article he has written is nothing on the scale of up or downclock or downscaling on any hardware feature change (which, with the PS4 JUST passing the FCC's approval, would be a massive shift that people would've known about for months if Sony had intended to release the PS4 this holiday season).

What he is going to be discussing is the viability of the garlic and onion busses when passing data between the gpu and cpu. He'll be pointing out a flaw that most of the engineers I know are aware of, and isn't a issue at all. 

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#187 kipsta77
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No, no and no. This is about an upcoming article on how the ram in the PS4 works. No specification change.

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#188 Tighaman
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sony is about to sweet talk them fanboy panties right off and not going to call after

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#189 Kaz_Son
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Another failed lemming wet dream. Downscaling rumors have been debunked by the poster of the tweet. LOL at the lemmings that were hoping for some ownage material. Where is your god now lemmings?
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#190 Sollet
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TLDR thread. Can someone sum up what is true and what is false?

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#191 Douevenlift_bro
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Once I saw thread title I knew somebody put their foot in their mouth, self-owned, or lemmings had been owned. Turns out all 3 happened :lol:

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#192 Kaz_Son
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TLDR thread. Can someone sum up what is true and what is false?

Sollet

OP and the lemrats jumped the gun and took a Eurogamer Spain subdirector's tweets out of context. He said there were gonna print an article about PS4's memory bus tomorrow unfortunately he said:

 

"PS4 Memory drama. More info soon."

 

Lemmings took that to mean that Sony was having RAM issues with GDDR5. He then proceeded to say:

 

"-The article will be publish tomorrow, it's better like this, will be more info. A very interesting tech article, 24 hours delay because Sony want to make statements."

 

 

and lemmings creamed their pants lol. Only for him to finally tweet several hours later after he saw he had caused a shit storm:

 

"Calm down! It's just some info about how memory works and nothing more. Nothing serious! "

 

 

TLDR Version: Eurogamer trolled lemrats. Lemmings jumped the gun too early and assumed random tweets meant Eurogamer was about to reveal Sony manufacturing problems with GDDR5 when they were just hyping a article that explains how PS4 memory works, nothing more.

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#193 bodde1972
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Pathetic Lems makng shit up again. Hoping that Sony makes a misstep to make the Failbox look slightly better. 

pUVEo85.png

Translation:

"Calm down! It's just some info about how memory works and nothing more. Nothing serious! "

Welp, time to close the thread.

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#194 Kaz_Son
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Pathetic Lems makng shit up again. Hoping that Sony makes a misstep to make the Failbox look slightly better. 

pUVEo85.png

Translation:

"Calm down! It's just some info about how memory works and nothing more. Nothing serious! "

Welp, time to close the thread.

bodde1972
Indeed, Lems are pathetic. /thread
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#195 TorqueHappens08
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From GAF.

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#196 Sollet
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[QUOTE="Sollet"]

TLDR thread. Can someone sum up what is true and what is false?

Kaz_Son

OP and the lemrats jumped the gun and took a Eurogamer Spain subdirector's tweets out of context. He said there were gonna print an article about PS4's memory bus tomorrow unfortunately he said:

 

"PS4 Memory drama. More info soon."

 

Lemmings took that to mean that Sony was having RAM issues with GDDR5. He then proceeded to say:

 

"-The article will be publish tomorrow, it's better like this, will be more info. A very interesting tech article, 24 hours delay because Sony want to make statements."

 

 

and lemmings creamed their pants lol. Only for him to finally tweet several hours later after he saw he had caused a shit storm:

 

"Calm down! It's just some info about how memory works and nothing more. Nothing serious! "

 

 

TLDR Version: Eurogamer trolled lemrats. Lemmings jumped the gun too early and assumed random tweets meant Eurogamer was about to reveal Sony manufacturing problems with GDDR5 when they were just hyping a article that explains how PS4 memory works, nothing more.

Ah thanks. Lemmings they never learn do they?
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#197 TorqueHappens08
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lol incoming meltdow,denial and total butthurt if true.:cool:Tessellation

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#198 AM-Gamer
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The system is done. There is no time for a downgrade. 

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#199 Kaz_Son
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The system is done. There is no time for a downgrade. 

AM-Gamer
There is no downgrade happening. The lemming wet dream has been debunked. Lems got excited for nothing.
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#200 Kaz_Son
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[QUOTE="Tessellation"]lol incoming meltdow,denial and total butthurt if true.:cool:TorqueHappens08

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:cool: Win.