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Which games did those 360k pick up me wonders.
Go to metacritic to see , there are plenty games from 80 ++ range to choose from. Its in par with every single other console out there as we speak.
Saweeetness, I had no idea metacritic now tracks which games were bought with a new console purchase. Can you give me a link to that part of metecritic? I'll wait impatiently for your reply. :P
Ah you didnt ? Now you know ! You can check which PS4 games selling alot. Except if multiplatform games are not games. I always forget you never ever play multiplatforms. They are NOT games.Period. Oh wait, someone havent those multiplatforms at all yet it has games. But ... oh damn ! Im so confused now i dont know what is going on !
Cows started that 'multiplats don't count as games' thing last gen. It's just strange they suddenly do care about them now.
And I guarantee, as soon as the good exclusives start coming, multiplats and indies will cease to count as games to them again.
Who said that ? I was here all along , noone said multis dont count. It was lems laughing to cows over multis. I think you shouldnt talk out of your butt to me , im here like 10 years or something and i remember exactly what happened.
So dont play the victims here. All im saying you butthurt lem is that multis counts as games , understand now? More people played games like COD / GTA5 etc than any exclusive. And guess what ? Someone missing all of them !! But but ... exclusives matters only !! Guess what ? PS3 kicked your ass and PS4 will soon. Just be ready and the things you talking now youll regret them soon or later. But then youll the game you playing just right now , this very moment . Youll say something like " Cows , a year or 2 ago were talking how multiplatforms are the best " ... Youll do that i bet my life on it. Ill be here like i was a decade now. Fornow , cry me a river you and everyone else that denying the obvious. Gamers playing multiplatforms as much or even more than exclusives. Period. I can prove that all day long by which game sold what. You want to deny that , dont give a crap , im talking facts.
have a nice day sir ..lol
1) first the spanjard are europeans poorest people (after the greek) so it's obvious they buy a playstation.
2) The ps3 didn't have party chat, didn't have a nice controller, didn't have a real community, the ps3 was overpriced
3) the ps4 may be better, but it's still sony, they make tv's
1) So what ? What kind of racism is this ? lol
2) PS3 was an utter failure with so many bad decisions over its hardware overall which led to a disaster. There were way more things than what you mentioning. In a bad way that is. If you want i can make you a list why PS3 was a fail as hardware and why didnt massively sold worldwide.
3) Its Sony , the same company that destroyed competition with PS1/PS2 , the company that is in a serious multibillion loss for every year, the last 6-7 years and still supporting PS brand like no other company ever did or ever will under these circumstances. Look Wii for example... In life support for so long ...then dead while Nintendo was on tremendous profits letting 100+ million users with no games at all while PS3 was going as strong despite all those epic difficulties. So yeah , its Sony. The one and only.
1) these are facts not racism
2) it didn't sold as massively as the ps1 and ps2 because microsoft made a way better system, the ps1 and ps2 were only succesfull because there were so many people that couldn't configure a pc to game with
3) they didn't destroy any competition, sega destroyed themselves, sega released too many bad systems in a row. Nintendo is a select public , just like playstation but it will never be the engine behind gaming development like microsoft is. Microsoft makes windows too remember, which you need to run a pc, they invented directx.
Sony the one and only? haha, fanboys, they're so funny. Sony has never done anything innovative besides making portable storage media, like the cd and the blue ray. Everything that sony does with a console has already been done before on the pc.
1) Spain nor Greece are that poor as you sounded let alone the poorest ... They having a big economical issue which getting help to overcome. The poorest countries in the world coming from Africa. Educate yourself before talk to me about facts.
2) Lol ... really you think it was X360 that held PS3 back and not the vice versa ? That PS3 did so bad that let X360 get a momentum ? Thats the pinnacle of fanboyism if you think PS3 didnt sale because of X360. Period
3) They utterly destroyed , not just destroyed. One of the big 3 , SEGA , stopped being a console manufacturer with Saturn being a letdown and Dreamcast even more. Why this happened ? Because of PS1/PS2 epic success. Nintendo after SNES , with N64 and GC lost every single momentum they had sales wise while lost major exclusives and 3rd party support ... guess to whom !! Sony and Playstation that is.
Get your facts straight because i was part of what was happening since NES/SNES era and i know exactly what happened and why. Its different to read about it and way different to be part of history yourself.
Sony innovations are well known to all of us , all you have to do is go to wikipedia and see for yourself. This statement like everything that Sony does with a console has already been done before on the PC made me laugh. Whats your point with that statement a god knows !
1) africa is not a part of europe, maybe you should have paid attention in geography classes
2) Sure, the xbox original was already way better than the ps2, the x360 also released a year before the ps3, at a lower price, better service and more features, all this while providing the same quality in multiplats.
3) Sega already released numerous addons and consoles that failed and this was because of bad management, not sony. The failure of the sega cd and sega 32 x had nothing to do with sony , the playstation didn't exist yet. Sony's success was because of the combination of 3d and the cd. However this was obvious, the pc showed that 3d was the future (with games like doom, wolfenstein, alone in the dark, duke nukem) and that a lot of space was needed for data, portable harddrives were too expensive so the cd was the only option.
Nintendo didn't want to use the cd because sony was going to supply them the cd in the first place but sony started to make his own consoles because they felt that nintendo's business proposal was not fair. Nintendo was also scared of piracy and for that they didn't use a cd. Sega did it for the same reason but made it even worse by not making a 3d system (the saturn was mainly built for 2d) . Both were bad business decisions. Sony's success was plain luck that nintendo and sega were such failures, the amiga cd 32 was even worse and for that sony had hardly any competition.
Sony made a lot of fans with the playstation 1 and that's the biggest reason why the playstation 2 was a success. The console itself was below mediocre, the gamecube and the xbox original were vastly better systems but because of the semi flopped n64 and the fact that xbox was new the market a lot of people chose sony. Once people realized how much better the xbox original was , a lot of people choose the x360 especially for the lower price and because it released sooner.
As for sonys innovations, you can't even give an example and that's because it's hard to find one. PEople were playing fps games years before it ever released on the consoles. Since microsoft came to the IT market, it dominated everything, simply because it could made used of the newest hardware through directx and windows. Since windows 95 the consoles were always behind the pc (and before that it was behind the arcade systems) and that will simply never change because consoles have fixed hardware.
1) My mistake. Even though Spain and Greece are not the poorest European countries even. Dont get brainwashed by TV. Learn the facts , Europe is a big continent and way poorer countries than Spain and Greece exists.Period. Also isnt X1 bundles or Wii U cheaper than Playstation ? How comes you saying they going for cheaper when PS4 atm is the most expensive one ? Lol .... I mean... pathetic bro.
Learn before you speak racism.
2) Just lol ... Thats all i have to say if you think PS3 wasnt the one that made X360 go strong last gen. Youll see this gen what will happen that PS4 price is viable for everyone. You already do actually.
3) Guess who killed Saturn and Dreamcast and made Nintendo look like a kitty cat while those 2 were the 2 big names in home video gaming for years. Sony did. Why all those exclusives Sony won from Nintendo ( like Final Fantasy series ) didnt end up to Saturn ( asumming both had CD rom ) ? You have brains , you can understand why.
--- I dont know why Nintendo didnt use a CD rom but they had more problems than lack of CD-rom. Architecture was a pain in the ass for developers alongside with super expensive cartridges drove 3rd party developers away. Go learn about all these , Wikipedia if i remember has a decent post about N64 , everything is there.
--- Sony made alot of fans because of games exclusivity and PS2 just delivered as much. With your logic why N64 wasnt a success assuming SNES made alot of fans? Something is wrong with that logic of yours right ? Why PS3 wasnt as big as PS2 assuming PS2 had alot of fans? Why Wii U struggles when Wii had alot of fans ? GC was better system than PS2 ... how many games it had to compete with PS2 ? Same for Xbox.
You see its not about hardware all the time. Its about games then hardware. If it was about hardware , PS1/PS2/Wii shouldnt have won their gens war. So think again please. You talking as what you saying are facts but facts themselfs are against you.
Besides , X360 never won a gen , despite being the "best" , despite PS3 being a problematic super expensive system , lose major exclusives , Sony being in multibillion losses ... It made it to be on par with X360 at the end. Wii won if you remember , not X360. So , if X360 couldnt win vs so many problems Sony had with PS3 ... Oh boy , just wait to see what will happen this gen. Just wait a year or 2. Youll understand then if you havent already.
As of innovations , i told you go to wiki and see for yourself. What innovations have to do with what we are talking is beyond any logic. But i assure you Sony has some of the biggest and industry new standard innovations vs both MS / Nintendo combined just not on video gaming. So dont speak generally about innovations , it wont end up fair for you because you sound like Sony has done nothing ! Just leave innovations aside , its not something that im looking for on a console in the end of the day. Games and hardware quality / price ratio is what im looking for .
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