PS4's "Biggest Challenge" Is It's CPU

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#1 Far_RockNYC
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http://www.playstationlifestyle.net/2013/08/05/the-ps4s-big-challenge-is-its-amd-chip-that-heavily-relies-on-multi-threading-says-planetside-2-dev/

no cross platform for planet side 2

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#2 deactivated-5d7fb49ded561
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And?

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#3 MonsieurX
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And?

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Inferior port on inferior console :cool:
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http://www.playstationlifestyle.net/2013/08/05/the-ps4s-big-challenge-is-its-amd-chip-that-heavily-relies-on-multi-threading-says-planetside-2-dev/

no cross platform for planet side 2

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Update: After publication of this article, the developers reached out to us to clarify that the Forgelight Engine in particular struggles with AMD chips, and that it is not something that is inherent in the PS4 hardware, and not something all developers will have as a hurdle, but that the SOE team will have to overcome the issue. In light of the new information, we have changed the title.

The Article

Yeah. I can see that. 

Planetside 2 ran much better when I moved from a AMD Phenom II X4 840 (quad core AMD) to a Pentium G860 (Dual core intel). 

So it's not really PS4, but any AMD CPU, and it's a specific issue with this game engine. 

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http://www.playstationlifestyle.net/2013/08/05/the-ps4s-big-challenge-is-its-amd-chip-that-heavily-relies-on-multi-threading-says-planetside-2-dev/

no cross platform for planet side 2

Far_RockNYC

 

Yes because the xbox one has a i7 4ghz...:lol:

 

It has the same Jaguar..:lol:

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console players would get murdered by pc players anyway

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#11 deactivated-5d7fb49ded561
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console players would get murdered by pc players anyway

Flubbbs


Doubt it

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#12 Wasdie  Moderator
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Going from having 1-2 strong cores to 8 weak cores. Devs for both the PS4 and Xbox One are going to struggle at first to get their engines threaded up properly.

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#13 psymon100
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console players would get murdered by pc players anyway

Davekeeh


Doubt it

Man. How could this discussion get fun?

Yes they will. 

No they won't. 

Yes, they will!

No, they won't!

THEY WILL!

THEY WON'T!

RAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGE!

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[QUOTE="Flubbbs"]

console players would get murdered by pc players anyway

Davekeeh


Doubt it

no, its confirmed

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[QUOTE="Flubbbs"]

console players would get murdered by pc players anyway

Davekeeh


Doubt it

Don´t doubt it,early this gen there were various attempts to make cross platfrom play but it ended up being ditched because even average PC players were completely destryoing good console players.

Here´s one of many reports of such,there was even a couple with detailed stats and how embarassing the difference was,if I find it I´ll post it as well.

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#16 deactivated-5d7fb49ded561
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[QUOTE="Davekeeh"]

[QUOTE="Flubbbs"]

console players would get murdered by pc players anyway

Flubbbs


Doubt it

no, its confirmed


The best console gamer would dance circles around the best pc gamer

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[QUOTE="Davekeeh"]

[QUOTE="Flubbbs"]

console players would get murdered by pc players anyway

MrYaotubo


Doubt it

Don´t doubt it,early this gen there were various attempts to make cross platfrom play but it ended up being ditched because even average PC players were completely destryoing good console players.

Here´s one of many reports of such,there was even a couple with detailed stats and how embarassing the difference was,if I find it I´ll post it as well.


I doubt those console gamers were any good to begin with, if they were they would easily make a fool out of pc gamers

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#18 Nanomage
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[QUOTE="Flubbbs"]

[QUOTE="Davekeeh"]
Doubt it

Davekeeh

no, its confirmed


The best console gamer would dance circles around the best pc gamer

Yeah,must be why pretty much all high level competitive players are PC gamers :lol:
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[QUOTE="MrYaotubo"]

[QUOTE="Davekeeh"]
Doubt it

Davekeeh

Don´t doubt it,early this gen there were various attempts to make cross platfrom play but it ended up being ditched because even average PC players were completely destryoing good console players.

Here´s one of many reports of such,there was even a couple with detailed stats and how embarassing the difference was,if I find it I´ll post it as well.


I doubt those console gamers were any good to begin with, if they were they would easily make a fool out of pc gamers

You can doubt whatever you want but the reality is that in every siongle test cobnsole gamers were always destroyed by PC gamers,not even remotely close,no matter how good the console players were,even average PC players were dominating,let alone top level PC players lol. It´s a completely different ballpark lol.
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#21 DrTrafalgarLaw
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[QUOTE="Davekeeh"]

[QUOTE="Flubbbs"]

no, its confirmed

Nanomage


The best console gamer would dance circles around the best pc gamer

Yeah,must be why pretty much all high level competitive players are PC gamers :lol:

Yeah, that's why EVO is held annualy on PC hardware. :roll:
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[QUOTE="Davekeeh"]

[QUOTE="MrYaotubo"]

Don´t doubt it,early this gen there were various attempts to make cross platfrom play but it ended up being ditched because even average PC players were completely destryoing good console players.

Here´s one of many reports of such,there was even a couple with detailed stats and how embarassing the difference was,if I find it I´ll post it as well.

MrYaotubo


I doubt those console gamers were any good to begin with, if they were they would easily make a fool out of pc gamers

You can doubt whatever you want but the reality is that in every siongle test cobnsole gamers were always destroyed by PC gamers,not even remotely close,no matter how good the console players were,even average PC players were dominating,let alone top level PC players lol. It´s a completely different ballpark lol.


The only way for PC gamers to win is by using hacks, which is a common occurrence with PC gaming

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#23 MrYaotubo
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[QUOTE="Nanomage"][QUOTE="Davekeeh"]
The best console gamer would dance circles around the best pc gamerDrTrafalgarLaw
Yeah,must be why pretty much all high level competitive players are PC gamers :lol:

Yeah, that's why EVO is held annualy on PC hardware. :roll:

Yeah,now compare the relevance of EVO to the other main competitive games on the market lol,that´s smalltime when compared to the big boys.
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Just hilarious. 

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#25 deactivated-5d7fb49ded561
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[QUOTE="Davekeeh"]

[QUOTE="Flubbbs"]

no, its confirmed

Nanomage


The best console gamer would dance circles around the best pc gamer

Yeah,must be why pretty much all high level competitive players are PC gamers :lol:


Don't be ridiculous LOL, all competitive PC players are world of warcraft players

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[QUOTE="MrYaotubo"][QUOTE="Davekeeh"]
I doubt those console gamers were any good to begin with, if they were they would easily make a fool out of pc gamers

Davekeeh

You can doubt whatever you want but the reality is that in every siongle test cobnsole gamers were always destroyed by PC gamers,not even remotely close,no matter how good the console players were,even average PC players were dominating,let alone top level PC players lol. It´s a completely different ballpark lol.


The only way for PC gamers to win is by using hacks, which is a common occurrence with PC gaming

Don´t be mad that all official and unofficial tests in developer controled environments were always dominated by PC players and console players were always destroyed,like I said it´s a completely different ballpark of skill,don´t be mad lol,facts are facts.
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#27 Chris_Williams
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pc gamers would destroy console gamers or more specifically mouse and keyboard would destroy controller. You just have more control over your actions with k/m thus more accuracy so it wouldn't be fair. I thought all you guys knew this.

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#28 Nanomage
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[QUOTE="Nanomage"][QUOTE="Davekeeh"]
The best console gamer would dance circles around the best pc gamer

Davekeeh

Yeah,must be why pretty much all high level competitive players are PC gamers :lol:


Don't be ridiculous LOL, all competitive PC players are world of warcraft players

Yeah sure lol,and Dota,LoL,CS,Starcraft,etc,all the relevant competitive sports in the world,watched by millions lol.
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#29 Wasdie  Moderator
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System Wars needs to get better at not taking blatently obvious bait. 

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#30 MightyMuna
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This forum can be really dumb sometimes
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[QUOTE="MrYaotubo"][QUOTE="DrTrafalgarLaw"][QUOTE="Nanomage"] Yeah,must be why pretty much all high level competitive players are PC gamers :lol:

Yeah, that's why EVO is held annualy on PC hardware. :roll:

Yeah,now compare the relevance of EVO to the other main competitive games on the market lol,that´s smalltime when compared to the big boys.

EVO is not a game you...:|
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#32 Chris_Williams
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[QUOTE="Davekeeh"]

[QUOTE="Nanomage"] Yeah,must be why pretty much all high level competitive players are PC gamers :lol:Nanomage


Don't be ridiculous LOL, all competitive PC players are world of warcraft players

Yeah sure lol,and Dota,LoL,CS,Starcraft,etc,all the relevant competitive sports in the world,watched by millions lol.

I wonder when you guys are going to realize DaveKeeh has been trolling system wars since his first post? Meh keep it up davey
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[QUOTE="DrTrafalgarLaw"][QUOTE="MrYaotubo"][QUOTE="DrTrafalgarLaw"] Yeah, that's why EVO is held annualy on PC hardware. :roll:

Yeah,now compare the relevance of EVO to the other main competitive games on the market lol,that´s smalltime when compared to the big boys.

EVO is not a game you...:|

No shit,I know evo is the fighting game event,and it used to be relevant back in the day but now it´s smalltime compared to the big tournaments/games.
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[QUOTE="Nanomage"][QUOTE="Davekeeh"]
The best console gamer would dance circles around the best pc gamer

DrTrafalgarLaw

Yeah,must be why pretty much all high level competitive players are PC gamers :lol:

Yeah, that's why EVO is held annualy on PC hardware. :roll:

well they use monitors if that counts :P

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[QUOTE="Nanomage"][QUOTE="Davekeeh"]

[QUOTE="Nanomage"] Yeah,now compare the relevance of EVO to the other main competitive games on the market lol,that´s smalltime when compared to the big boys.

EVO is not a game you...:|

No shit,I know evo is the fighting game event,and it used to be relevant back in the day but now it´s smalltime compared to the big tournaments/games.

I'd rather watch skullgirls at EVO than any big-name dota2 stream.

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Every console this gen went with weak CPUs.

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[QUOTE="MrYaotubo"][QUOTE="DrTrafalgarLaw"] Yeah, that's why EVO is held annualy on PC hardware. :roll:DrTrafalgarLaw
Yeah,now compare the relevance of EVO to the other main competitive games on the market lol,that´s smalltime when compared to the big boys.

EVO is not a game you...:|

LOL

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[QUOTE="DrTrafalgarLaw"][QUOTE="Nanomage"][QUOTE="Davekeeh"] EVO is not a game you...:|

No shit,I know evo is the fighting game event,and it used to be relevant back in the day but now it´s smalltime compared to the big tournaments/games.

I'd rather watch skullgirls at EVO than any big-name dota2 stream.

I´m sure you do but that´s pretty irrelevant for the argument,as you´ll find out by looking at the numbers of DOTA/League/Starcraft,the vast majority rather watch those.
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[QUOTE="DrTrafalgarLaw"][QUOTE="Nanomage"] No shit,I know evo is the fighting game event,and it used to be relevant back in the day but now it´s smalltime compared to the big tournaments/games.Nanomage
I'd rather watch skullgirls at EVO than any big-name dota2 stream.

I´m sure you do but that´s pretty irrelevant for the argument,as you´ll find out by looking at the numbers of DOTA/League/Starcraft,the vast majority rather watch those.

well starcraft is like a national sport/past time in south korea

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System Wars needs to get better at not taking blatently obvious bait. 

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I'm over here laughing at the threads... shh... don't say anything.
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console players would get murdered by pc players anyway

Flubbbs
I herd PC players are really good shooters and don't afraid of anything
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[QUOTE="MrYaotubo"][QUOTE="Davekeeh"]
I doubt those console gamers were any good to begin with, if they were they would easily make a fool out of pc gamers

Davekeeh

You can doubt whatever you want but the reality is that in every siongle test cobnsole gamers were always destroyed by PC gamers,not even remotely close,no matter how good the console players were,even average PC players were dominating,let alone top level PC players lol. It´s a completely different ballpark lol.


The only way for PC gamers to win is by using hacks, which is a common occurrence with PC gaming

Just like console players like auto aim,right?
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[QUOTE="Davekeeh"]

[QUOTE="MrYaotubo"] You can doubt whatever you want but the reality is that in every siongle test cobnsole gamers were always destroyed by PC gamers,not even remotely close,no matter how good the console players were,even average PC players were dominating,let alone top level PC players lol. It´s a completely different ballpark lol.MonsieurX


The only way for PC gamers to win is by using hacks, which is a common occurrence with PC gaming

Just like console players like auto aim,right?

auto aim, aka aimbot lite

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This explains why I hear people complaining about PS2 performance on their rigs yet I have no performance issues at all on mine. Must be because they are AMD chips and I have an i5.
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This explains why I hear people complaining about PS2 performance on their rigs yet I have no performance issues at all on mine. Must be because they are AMD chips and I have an i5. NFJSupreme

kind of funny that SOE made a game that has issues with AMD

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[QUOTE="Davekeeh"]

[QUOTE="MrYaotubo"] You can doubt whatever you want but the reality is that in every siongle test cobnsole gamers were always destroyed by PC gamers,not even remotely close,no matter how good the console players were,even average PC players were dominating,let alone top level PC players lol. It´s a completely different ballpark lol.MonsieurX


The only way for PC gamers to win is by using hacks, which is a common occurrence with PC gaming

Just like console players like auto aim,right?

shooters are ass on console but I'd destroy 99% of this board in Unreal Tournament 2004...and I'm only a consolite, right? :cool:
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[QUOTE="MonsieurX"][QUOTE="Davekeeh"]
The only way for PC gamers to win is by using hacks, which is a common occurrence with PC gaming

DrTrafalgarLaw

Just like console players like auto aim,right?

shooters are ass on console but I'd destroy 99% of this board in Unreal Tournament 2004...and I'm only a consolite, right? :cool:

using controller on UT vs keyboard and mouse?

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[QUOTE="DrTrafalgarLaw"][QUOTE="MonsieurX"] Just like console players like auto aim,right?lostrib

shooters are ass on console but I'd destroy 99% of this board in Unreal Tournament 2004...and I'm only a consolite, right? :cool:

using controller on UT vs keyboard and mouse?

No no, none of that funny stuff. Keyboard & mouse. The notion in this thread that console gamers can't be competitive gamers.
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System Wars needs to get better at not taking blatently obvious bait. 

Wasdie

 

It's too late for that

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#50 lostrib
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[QUOTE="lostrib"]

[QUOTE="DrTrafalgarLaw"] shooters are ass on console but I'd destroy 99% of this board in Unreal Tournament 2004...and I'm only a consolite, right? :cool:DrTrafalgarLaw

using controller on UT vs keyboard and mouse?

No no, none of that funny stuff. Keyboard & mouse. The notion in this thread that console gamers can't be competitive gamers.

It's that they can't compete with a controller vs kb/m