PSN should start charging

Says who? In this day and age, online play sure is becoming a right. You paid for your internet service, you paid for the console, you paid for the game. Now you must pay for the service that uses your internet connection to connect to your console so that you can play your game online. Ridiculous.

MasteRich

[QUOTE="Wardemon50"][QUOTE="kate_jones"] [QUOTE="MasteRich"]

[QUOTE="Wardemon50"][QUOTE="kate_jones"]

who charges to play online games?!? oh right microsoft

you should never have to pay to play a game you already paid for.

MasteRich

sony makes money on there hardware unlike microsoft, and thats not even taking into account MS having to fix RROD, I have a 360 and I would have prefered to pay more upfront for the console than having to pay for xbl, xbl should be free there's no question about it and it's MS who should conform, not sony,nintendo or pc gamers.

[QUOTE="idontbeliveit"][QUOTE="sexy_robot_man"]

If Sony begun to charge for PSN that would be the final nail in the coffin that is PS3.

Gxgear

I'm surprised there's still room on that coffin for another nail.

Well I guess since PS3 got some great games and improved on PSN they had to take out some of the nails:P

Does anyone else agree with me here? I mean, if Sony were smart, they'd start charging for PSN. It would give Sony a new source of revenue and I'm sure people wouldn't mind doing it once it's implemented (They can either pay or complain and chances are, most people will pay). I guess I see it like this: If Xbox Live has so many paying customers, why hasn't it dawned on Sony to start charging?

Wardemon50

hell no I wouldn't pay for online if that were to happen i'd be a PC online gamer

im sick of these greedy corporations i'm already paying for my internet service online should be free.

[QUOTE="idontbeliveit"][QUOTE="sexy_robot_man"]

If Sony begun to charge for PSN that would be the final nail in the coffin that is PS3.

Gxgear

I'm surprised there's still room on that coffin for another nail.

a coffin worth 24 million ;) ooookkk

wasn't 2006 the year PS3 was doomed oh waiit 2007 ohh yeah that was the year no 2008 that was the year of the DOOM LOL

It won't happen on PS3 but Sony fans are living in a dream world if they think Sony is going to keep free internet on future consoles.

And?? it doesn't make it a right otherwise net neutraility wouldn't be on the cards and internet taxes wouldn't be on the cards of major governments such as the USA and EU.

Paying for online is a ripoff, there's no good reason to charge for something that should be free.

Lems will never understand this

Paying for online is a ripoff, there's no good reason to charge for something that should be free.

Lems will never understand this

p2250

lems don't mind getting ripped off

Does anyone else agree with me here? I mean, if Sony were smart, they'd start charging for PSN. It would give Sony a new source of revenue and I'm sure people wouldn't mind doing it once it's implemented (They can either pay or complain and chances are, most people will pay). I guess I see it like this: If Xbox Live has so many paying customers, why hasn't it dawned on Sony to start charging?

Wardemon50

How about Microsoft stops charging people to use their own connections to play their own games online? Neither company should make their console owners have to pay to unlock the online compeonent of a game, simple as that.

ski11buzz

[QUOTE="p2250"]

Paying for online is a ripoff, there's no good reason to charge for something that should be free.

Lems will never understand this

simslifer

lems don't mind getting ripped off

Why would they want to do that when XBL is clearly better? That would just result in people not buying a PS3 because there's no longer free online.

treedoor

No you's won't lol the faux postering is silly.

Do you stop driving your car everytime gas goes up??

Do you stop eating everytime food goes up in price??

We're all meant to believe some of you guys who sit and diss the Wii and Xbox 360 day in and day out are going to suddenly jack in Sony and buy Nintendo or Microsoft or give up console gaming all of a sudden??

So really; you's all bought your PS3 just cause it had free internet and not cause it had all these great games we're constantly told about??

Yeah righto.

Sony need's to make money and the legislation on internet access and funding is being tightened up around the world already as we speak so all i can say is welcome to the future of paying yet another tax, enjoy the ride.

No you's won't lol the faux postering is silly.

Do you stop driving your car everytime gas goes up??

Do you stop eating everytime food goes up in price??

We're all meant to believe some of you guys who sit and diss the Wii and Xbox 360 day in and day out are going to suddenly jack in Sony and buy Nintendo or Microsoft or give up console gaming all of a sudden??

So reallyyou's all bought your PS3 just cause it had free internet and not cause it had all these great games we're constantly told about.

Yeah righto.

Sony need's to make money and the legislation on internet access and funding is being tightened up around the world already as we speak so all i can say is welcome to the future of paying yet another tax, enjoy the ride.

HGAT

No you's won't lol the faux postering is silly.

Do you stop driving your car everytime gas goes up??

Do you stop eating everytime food goes up in price??

We're all meant to believe some of you guys who sit and diss the Wii and Xbox 360 day in and day out are going to suddenly jack in Sony and buy Nintendo or Microsoft or give up console gaming all of a sudden??

So really; you's all bought your PS3 just cause it had free internet and not cause it had all these great games we're constantly told about??

Yeah righto.

Sony need's to make money and the legislation on internet access and funding is being tightened up around the world already as we speak so all i can say is welcome to the future of paying yet another tax, enjoy the ride.

HGAT

sony don't need to go that route to make money they don't have to deceive anyone they get money through downloadable content like LBP and Home which I hear is making them quite a profit.

they don't need to do dirty business to get money.

I agree it's a joke especially from a fanbase that has members who paid 600 dollars+ forthe console anyway,I mean wtf lol talk about screwed up priorities.

[QUOTE="kate_jones"]

who charges to play online games?!? oh right microsoft

you should never have to pay to play a game you already paid for.

Wardemon50

Wow. You must be psychic :roll:

[QUOTE="Wardemon50"][QUOTE="kate_jones"]

who charges to play online games?!? oh right microsoft

you should never have to pay to play a game you already paid for.

MasteRich

After paying for a lamp, light buld and you electricity, why don't we get a company set up that charges people to use the light swich?

[QUOTE="HGAT"]

No you's won't lol the faux postering is silly.

Do you stop driving your car everytime gas goes up??

Do you stop eating everytime food goes up in price??

We're all meant to believe some of you guys who sit and diss the Wii and Xbox 360 day in and day out are going to suddenly jack in Sony and buy Nintendo or Microsoft or give up console gaming all of a sudden??

So really; you's all bought your PS3 just cause it had free internet and not cause it had all these great games we're constantly told about??

Yeah righto.

Sony need's to make money and the legislation on internet access and funding is being tightened up around the world already as we speak so all i can say is welcome to the future of paying yet another tax, enjoy the ride.

simslifer

sony don't need to go that route to make money they don't have to deceive anyone they get money through downloadable content like LBP and Home which I hear is making them quite a profit.

they don't need to do dirty business to get money.

Their's no such thing as a free lunch, A big company won't turn down free money especially Sony after the beating they've taken this gen. When it happens you will all happily pay it to keep Sony in the game and i don't blame you's.

I aint trying to decieve you or anything here, I honestlythink it's going to happen as it'll get to the stage where subsidising servers and bandwith and other factorswill become too costly for them in the long run especially if they can't keep up with future versions of XBL.The amount of consoles they'll need to sell to justify it will also be a factor.

They may be making money from PSNbut anythingnear like XBL makes forMicrosoft?? unlikely.

[QUOTE="simslifer"]

[QUOTE="HGAT"]

No you's won't lol the faux postering is silly.

Do you stop driving your car everytime gas goes up??

Do you stop eating everytime food goes up in price??

We're all meant to believe some of you guys who sit and diss the Wii and Xbox 360 day in and day out are going to suddenly jack in Sony and buy Nintendo or Microsoft or give up console gaming all of a sudden??

So really; you's all bought your PS3 just cause it had free internet and not cause it had all these great games we're constantly told about??

Yeah righto.

Sony need's to make money and the legislation on internet access and funding is being tightened up around the world already as we speak so all i can say is welcome to the future of paying yet another tax, enjoy the ride.

HGAT

sony don't need to go that route to make money they don't have to deceive anyone they get money through downloadable content like LBP and Home which I hear is making them quite a profit.

they don't need to do dirty business to get money.

Their's no such thing as a free lunch, A big company won't turn down free money especially Sony after the beating they've taken this gen. When it happens you will all happily pay it to keep Sony in the game and i don't blame you's.

I aint trying to decieve you or anything here, I honestlythink it's going to happen as it'll get to the stage where subsidising servers and bandwith and other factorswill become too costly for them in the long run especially if they can't keep up with future versions of XBL.The amount of consoles they'll need to sell to justify it will also be a factor.

They may be making money from PSNbut anythingnear like XBL makes forMicrosoft?? unlikely.

if they were to charge for online they would have done it already especially now that they need it financially but they wont, because it's dirty business especially when PC charges free online.

it's not about the money it's about the moral of a greedy corporation.

let me give you an example paying for online is like you paying for a box of candy and when you open the box theowner says"wait now you have to pay to eat the candy"

who charges to play online games?!? oh right microsoft

you should never have to pay to play a game you already paid for.

[QUOTE="kate_jones"]

who charges to play online games?!? oh right microsoft

you should never have to pay to play a game you already paid for.

sonicare

that's why I never supported WoW but microsoft is worse, because they know people will get duped they don't care.

[QUOTE="sonicare"][QUOTE="kate_jones"]

who charges to play online games?!? oh right microsoft

you should never have to pay to play a game you already paid for.

simslifer

that's why I never supported WoW but microsoft is worse, because they know people will get duped they don't care.

Proof that Sony is a little bit less retarded than the general public.

Suddenly charging money on a free service is pretty much suicide.

Gxgear

If they start charging I might start playing my PS3.

How about Microsoft stops charging people to use their own connections to play their own games online? Neither company should make their console owners have to pay to unlock the online compeonent of a game, simple as that.

ski11buzz

[QUOTE="HGAT"]

No you's won't lol the faux postering is silly.

Do you stop driving your car everytime gas goes up??

Do you stop eating everytime food goes up in price??

We're all meant to believe some of you guys who sit and diss the Wii and Xbox 360 day in and day out are going to suddenly jack in Sony and buy Nintendo or Microsoft or give up console gaming all of a sudden??

So reallyyou's all bought your PS3 just cause it had free internet and not cause it had all these great games we're constantly told about.

Yeah righto.

Sony need's to make money and the legislation on internet access and funding is being tightened up around the world already as we speak so all i can say is welcome to the future of paying yet another tax, enjoy the ride.

Wardemon50

[QUOTE="Gxgear"]

[QUOTE="idontbeliveit"] :lol: the amount of times i've heard that being said.simslifer

I'm surprised there's still room on that coffin for another nail.

a coffin worth 24 million ;) ooookkk

wasn't 2006 the year PS3 was doomed oh waiit 2007 ohh yeah that was the year no 2008 that was the year of the DOOM LOL

[QUOTE="p2250"]

Paying for online is a ripoff, there's no good reason to charge for something that should be free.

Lems will never understand this

simslifer

lems don't mind getting ripped off

It won't happen on PS3 but Sony fans are living in a dream world if they think Sony is going to keep free internet on future consoles.

HGAT

Why is that? No one charges for using you own internet connection except MS on the 360... even their Live on PC is now free because PC users ignored it completely. Online gaming is now on PC, every console, and every handheld... for free. The standard has been set, and now it's up to 360 users to demand that MS provide them the same. I said it on another thread today, if Live left all the Gold servcices as they are right now and moved online multiplayer to silver accounts there would be no issue. I'm assuming MS doesn't think all those nifty extras would keep gold subscibers if the online multiplayer was eliminated from consideration.

Live as a pay service isn't the wave of the future. It's the America Online of the online gaming world. And it will go down the same path as well.

[QUOTE="Gxgear"]

Proof that Sony is a little bit less retarded than the general public.

Suddenly charging money on a free service is pretty much suicide.

Communistsheep

I have a right to dictate I do it with my pocket by not giving in to paying for something that should be free that's how I stand my ground.

[QUOTE="simslifer"]

[QUOTE="p2250"]

Paying for online is a ripoff, there's no good reason to charge for something that should be free.

Lems will never understand this

Communistsheep

lems don't mind getting ripped off

"mcfly, mcfly" we are already paying microsoft for that service it's called our monthly internet bill.

they are just chaging twice for what should be free.

and why do they do it, because people like you happily pay for it.

when they started talk about charging for online for PC the PC users would not take it and microsoft backed off.

[QUOTE="MasteRich"] Says who? In this day and age, online play sure is becoming a right. You paid for your internet service, you paid for the console, you paid for the game. Now you must pay for the service that uses your internet connection to connect to your console so that you can play your game online. Ridiculous.

heretrix

loading a game and loggin online is same on both systems how u search for matches is based on the actual game setup

actual online gameplay xbox live = psn

added features and content xbox live > psn

demos and dlc xbox live > psn

if you wan to know which one has the better online community just read the back of a game "online experience not rated"

i have no problem playing 40+ man matches on psn just like i had no problem playg 32 man matches with cod 4 on xbox live

did have lag playing halo 3 32 man matches but thats not xbox live issue

xbox live can offer more content because of its fees and if people are more than willing to pay then there is nothing wrong with them charging

my choice was to stop paying but that does not mean xbox live is not worth its price (30$ if u know were to look)

so if u dont pay for xbox live dont complain

and if you are paying for xbox live remember that its not making ur actual online gameplay better (unless u have super fast internet connection and ur playing one of many games where u host the matches and take advantage of it)

but with xbox live you are getting great features tons of dlc and special events

so there is nothing wrong with paying to get extra

[QUOTE="Communistsheep"][QUOTE="Gxgear"]

Proof that Sony is a little bit less retarded than the general public.

Suddenly charging money on a free service is pretty much suicide.

simslifer

I have a right to dictate I do it with my pocket by not giving in to paying for something that should be free that's how I stand my ground.

[QUOTE="heretrix"]

[QUOTE="MasteRich"] Says who? In this day and age, online play sure is becoming a right. You paid for your internet service, you paid for the console, you paid for the game. Now you must pay for the service that uses your internet connection to connect to your console so that you can play your game online. Ridiculous.

fedor19820

loading a game and loggin online is same on both systems how u search for matches is based on the actual game setup

actual online gameplay xbox live = psn

added features and content xbox live > psn

demos and dlc xbox live > psn

if you wan to know which one has the better online community just read the back of a game "online experience not rated"

i have no problem playing 40+ man matches on psn just like i had no problem playg 32 man matches with cod 4 on xbox live

did have lag playing halo 3 32 man matches but thats not xbox live issue

xbox live can offer more content because of its fees and if people are more than willing to pay then there is nothing wrong with them charging

my choice was to stop paying but that does not mean xbox live is not worth its price (30$ if u know were to look)

so if u dont pay for xbox live dont complain

and if you are paying for xbox live remember that its not making ur actual online gameplay better (unless u have super fast internet connection and ur playing one of many games where u host the matches and take advantage of it)

but with xbox live you are getting great features tons of dlc and special events

so there is nothing wrong with paying to get extra

*sigh*

Let's take this point by point. First of all, how did you play Halo 3 and COD4 with 32 man matches on Xbox Live?

If PSN had more services and offered more features, then yes, Sony should start charging. But, I do believe that playing online should be free, only people that want premium service would have to pay.

[QUOTE="Communistsheep"][QUOTE="simslifer"]

lems don't mind getting ripped off

simslifer

"mcfly, mcfly" we are already paying microsoft for that service it's called our monthly internet bill.

they are just chaging twice for what should be free.

and why do they do it, because people like you happily pay for it.

when they started talk about charging for online for PC the PC users would not take it and microsoft backed off.

[QUOTE="simslifer"]

[QUOTE="p2250"]

Paying for online is a ripoff, there's no good reason to charge for something that should be free.

Lems will never understand this

Communistsheep

lems don't mind getting ripped off

What sevice do you speak of? They don't provide me the internet connection, my internet service provider does that, and I pay them monthly for that service. They don't provide the game, I bought that. They don't provide the hardware to play the game, I bought that. They don't provide the servers to run the game in most cases because they use my system to play host! And in the few instances where dedicated servers have been used, they've been used more often on PSN... for free.

So what service are they providing you? Social networking apps? Sure. And if they want to charge for any extra content on Live I agree that's their call. But paying to unlock the online portion of your game isn't a service. It's extortion. Put online multiplayer on silver, keep the rest of it on gold and let the consumer decide how good a value those Gold Services are. Every other gaming device has shown online multplayer functionality won't break the bank.

[QUOTE="Communistsheep"][QUOTE="simslifer"]

lems don't mind getting ripped off

simslifer

"mcfly, mcfly" we are already paying microsoft for that service it's called our monthly internet bill.

they are just chaging twice for what should be free.

and why do they do it, because people like you happily pay for it.

when they started talk about charging for online for PC the PC users would not take it and microsoft backed off.

Its been free for almost 3 years now and you expect gamers to start paying for it? Yeah...

And let's not forget that paying for XBLG gets you absolutely nothing. The online is peer-to-peer, there is no dedicated servers, you get access to all the features except online play with a Silver account and even with Gold there are still ads plastered everywhere. Online, as it has always been on other platforms, should be free. There is no legitimate reason to keep charging for XBLG when it is clearly not needed to run the service.

WoW says hi. The average user pays $150 on that yearly. So long as they make money, they won't stop.Wardemon50

Does anyone else agree with me here? I mean, if Sony were smart, they'd start charging for PSN. It would give Sony a new source of revenue and I'm sure people wouldn't mind doing it once it's implemented (They can either pay or complain and chances are, most people will pay). I guess I see it like this: If Xbox Live has so many paying customers, why hasn't it dawned on Sony to start charging?

Wardemon50

Why in the hell would I want to pay for online?

I'm sure the 360 crowd would like to level the playing field by having Sony charge for the service--which is, quite frankly, superior to XBL. But it's already established itself as the console with free online. i.e. People who bought it expected it to be free in the first place. No givsies backsies.

[QUOTE="Communistsheep"][QUOTE="simslifer"]

lems don't mind getting ripped off

santoron

What sevice do you speak of? They don't provide me the internet connection, my internet service provider does that, and I pay them monthly for that service. They don't provide the game, I bought that. They don't provide the hardware to play the game, I bought that. They don't provide the servers to run the game in most cases because they use my system to play host! And in the few instances where dedicated servers have been used, they've been used more often on PSN... for free.

So what service are they providing you? Social networking apps? Sure. And if they want to charge for any extra content on Live I agree that's their call. But paying to unlock the online portion of your game isn't a service. It's extortion. Put online multiplayer on silver, keep the rest of it on gold and let the consumer decide how good a value those Gold Services are. Every other gaming device has shown online multplayer functionality won't break the bank.

I think that would be another one of Sony's stupid business decisions on this gen. A great free online is one of the PS3's huge advantages against the 360.

I think that would be another one of Sony's stupid business decisions on this gen. A great free online is one of the PS3's huge advantages against the 360.

Pierst179

[QUOTE="santoron"]

[QUOTE="Communistsheep"] Yeah, how dare a service provider like MS charge for a service that they give to us, blasphemy, while we are at it, they should give us games free to!Communistsheep

What sevice do you speak of? They don't provide me the internet connection, my internet service provider does that, and I pay them monthly for that service. They don't provide the game, I bought that. They don't provide the hardware to play the game, I bought that. They don't provide the servers to run the game in most cases because they use my system to play host! And in the few instances where dedicated servers have been used, they've been used more often on PSN... for free.

So what service are they providing you? Social networking apps? Sure. And if they want to charge for any extra content on Live I agree that's their call. But paying to unlock the online portion of your game isn't a service. It's extortion. Put online multiplayer on silver, keep the rest of it on gold and let the consumer decide how good a value those Gold Services are. Every other gaming device has shown online multplayer functionality won't break the bank.

dude consumers and probable buyers do have the right we pay microsofts salaries why did m$ back off charging for pc online because people spoke.

[QUOTE="Communistsheep"][QUOTE="santoron"]

What sevice do you speak of? They don't provide me the internet connection, my internet service provider does that, and I pay them monthly for that service. They don't provide the game, I bought that. They don't provide the hardware to play the game, I bought that. They don't provide the servers to run the game in most cases because they use my system to play host! And in the few instances where dedicated servers have been used, they've been used more often on PSN... for free.

So what service are they providing you? Social networking apps? Sure. And if they want to charge for any extra content on Live I agree that's their call. But paying to unlock the online portion of your game isn't a service. It's extortion. Put online multiplayer on silver, keep the rest of it on gold and let the consumer decide how good a value those Gold Services are. Every other gaming device has shown online multplayer functionality won't break the bank.

simslifer

dude consumers and probable buyers do have the right we pay microsofts salaries why did m$ back off charging for pc online because people spoke.