PSN should start charging

halo 3 and cod 4 have online play 16 vs 16 up to 32 players

resistance 2 can do 30 vs 30 up to 60 players

sometimes i had problems playing big team matches on halo 3

had no prob with cod 4

i have not been in a 60 man match with resistance 2 but thats because those matches are mostly unranked

but i have been on 40+ at least 20 vs 20 matches

halo 3 and cod 4 have online play 16 vs 16 up to 32 players

resistance 2 can do 30 vs 30 up to 60 players

sometimes i had problems playing big team matches on halo 3

had no prob with cod 4

i have not been in a 60 man match with resistance 2 but thats because those matches are mostly unranked

but i have been on 40+ at least 20 vs 20 matches

fedor19820

halo 3 and cod 4 have online play 16 vs 16 up to 32 players

resistance 2 can do 30 vs 30 up to 60 players

sometimes i had problems playing big team matches on halo 3

had no prob with cod 4

i have not been in a 60 man match with resistance 2 but thats because those matches are mostly unranked

but i have been on 40+ at least 20 vs 20 matches

fedor19820

I'm sorry, HOW exactly do you play a 32 player match on Halo 3 and COD4? Certainly not via Xbox Live because....

http://image.gamespotcdn.com/gamespot/images/bigboxshots/2/926632_63166_back.jpg

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The box says outright that the Halo 3 supports a maximum of 16 players online...the system link cap is even 16 players online. I'm afraid you're going to have to prove to me that it supports 32 players.

And the console versions of COD4 say they have a max of 18 players online and 24 players via system link, and I've never been in a game with more than 16 players online on PSN, so I don't know wha tthe hell you're talking about.

No they shouldnt.

XBL crushes PSN in about every concievable way, if they were to start charging, they should atleast make it lower than XBL

XBL crushes PSN in about every concievable way, if they were to start charging, they should atleast make it lower than XBL

WINDWAKER1

it will only atract more customers if...

-its still cheaper than XBL

-they add a TON of content

- and if they would lower the price of the ps3

if not then sony just made there biggest mistake if there lives

wow i guess i forgot and just thought that it was up to 32 players online

sorry about giving wrong info its been a while since i had xbox live and i sold those games i just thought that 32 player matches was normal this gen but i was wrong i did not mean to do that and thanks for correcting me

so that means the lags issues that i sometimes had with halo 3 big team matches was just 16 players

so how many games are up to 32 or more players for consoles?

i only know killzone 2 up to 32 players and resistance 2 up to 60 players (i know PC with free online play blows 60 players out the water)

I disagree. Online should be free, I mean we already paid for the game, and we pay monthly fees to internet provider already.

[QUOTE="WINDWAKER1"]

XBL crushes PSN in about every concievable way, if they were to start charging, they should atleast make it lower than XBL

Brownesque

[QUOTE="kate_jones"]

who charges to play online games?!? oh right microsoft

you should never have to pay to play a game you already paid for.

sonicare

[QUOTE="sonicare"][QUOTE="kate_jones"]

who charges to play online games?!? oh right microsoft

you should never have to pay to play a game you already paid for.

heretrix

wow i guess i forgot and just thought that it was up to 32 players online

sorry about giving wrong info its been a while since i had xbox live and i sold those games i just thought that 32 player matches was normal this gen but i was wrong i did not mean to do that and thanks for correcting me

so that means the lags issues that i sometimes had with halo 3 big team matches was just 16 players

so how many games are up to 32 or more players for consoles?

i only know killzone 2 up to 32 players and resistance 2 up to 60 players (i know PC with free online play blows 60 players out the water)

fedor19820

I disagree. Online should be free, I mean we already paid for the game, and we pay monthly fees to internet provider already.

mgkennedy5

Nothing SHOULD be free, it's nice when it is, but people want to make money off of you. That's life. An adult life anyway.

I've always wondered why MMO's are always excluded from this. You pay a monthly fee to play one game. That's ok, but MS charging a yearly fee for their online service is a criminal act. That's so weird.heretrix

No. Its actually weird that you can play for free on the Ps3, PC, Wii, Ds and PsP but on Microsoft's console you have to pay a yearly fee to use your own Internet connection to play online :|. Thats the weird exception not the other way around. The same principle applies to MMO games.

[QUOTE="Brownesque"][QUOTE="WINDWAKER1"]

XBL crushes PSN in about every concievable way, if they were to start charging, they should atleast make it lower than XBL

SpinoRaptor24

[QUOTE="Brownesque"][QUOTE="WINDWAKER1"]

XBL crushes PSN in about every concievable way, if they were to start charging, they should atleast make it lower than XBL

SpinoRaptor24

Yea thats the only reason I say xbl is a bit better then psn. cross game/party chat and instint invite. Thats the only thing I really want for psn.

[QUOTE="sonicare"][QUOTE="kate_jones"]

who charges to play online games?!? oh right microsoft

you should never have to pay to play a game you already paid for.

heretrix

[QUOTE="SpinoRaptor24"][QUOTE="Brownesque"] Really? Name one thing XBL is superior at.finalfantasy94

Yea thats the only reason I saw xbl is a bit better then psn. cross game/party chat and instint invite. Thats the only thing I really want for psn.

[QUOTE="SpinoRaptor24"][QUOTE="Brownesque"] Really? Name one thing XBL is superior at.heretrix

http://www.thesixthaxis.com/2009/03/23/cross-game-chat-confirmed/

Sony is already working on cross game chat, things are bound to get intersting when a firmware update comes with cross game chat for PSN, there are less and less reasons to pay for Xbox Live I think

[QUOTE="finalfantasy94"]

[QUOTE="SpinoRaptor24"] Cross game chat invite.Brownesque

Yea thats the only reason I saw xbl is a bit better then psn. cross game/party chat and instint invite. Thats the only thing I really want for psn.

Thats why I say a bit better. Still not good enough to get my money.i dont agree when people say leaps and bounds better.

wow i guess i forgot and just thought that it was up to 32 players online

sorry about giving wrong info its been a while since i had xbox live and i sold those games i just thought that 32 player matches was normal this gen but i was wrong i did not mean to do that and thanks for correcting me

so that means the lags issues that i sometimes had with halo 3 big team matches was just 16 players

so how many games are up to 32 or more players for consoles?

i only know killzone 2 up to 32 players and resistance 2 up to 60 players (i know PC with free online play blows 60 players out the water)

fedor19820

lol wait till you find out about MAG for PS3

256 PLAYERS and it's free on psn :)

[QUOTE="SpinoRaptor24"][QUOTE="Brownesque"] Really? Name one thing XBL is superior at.heretrix

No. Its actually weird that you can play for free on the Ps3, PC, Wii, Ds and PsP but on Microsoft's console you have to pay a yearly fee to use your own Internet connection to play online :|. Thats the weird exception not the other way around. The same principle applies to MMO games.

AgentA-Mi6

[QUOTE="Brownesque"][QUOTE="finalfantasy94"]

Yea thats the only reason I saw xbl is a bit better then psn. cross game/party chat and instint invite. Thats the only thing I really want for psn.

finalfantasy94

Thats why I say a bit better. Still not good enough to get my money.i dont agree when people say leaps and bounds better.

[QUOTE="heretrix"]

[QUOTE="SpinoRaptor24"] Cross game chat invite.Brownesque

[QUOTE="finalfantasy94"]

[QUOTE="Brownesque"] DAMN. Quite a list. I see what you mean when you say it crushes PSN in every conceivable way.Brownesque

Thats why I say a bit better. Still not good enough to get my money.i dont agree when people say leaps and bounds better.

yea ps3 is crushed by the power of the xbox live bills lol

[QUOTE="Brownesque"][QUOTE="heretrix"]That and 100 percent total intergration of all it's games with the service.

heretrix

Well here's my question: What would you do if they started charging for PSN? Would you boycott PSN (causing absolutely no disturbance for Sony) Would you switch to 360? Would you switch to PC gaming since it's free? Would you swithc to the Wii since it's free? What I'm trying to say is that there is no real repercussion to Sony charging because most people would accept it and pay. Those who wouldn't wouldn't. Those who are dead set against it would punch sand.Wardemon50

Proboly not. The PC people sure didint lie down and take it when MS tried to make them pay for something that was free for so long. Thus it went back to free in a sec. MS has been charging for live since it came out so people who paid are just use to it.

[QUOTE="Wardemon50"]Well here's my question: What would you do if they started charging for PSN? Would you boycott PSN (causing absolutely no disturbance for Sony) Would you switch to 360? Would you switch to PC gaming since it's free? Would you swithc to the Wii since it's free? What I'm trying to say is that there is no real repercussion to Sony charging because most people would accept it and pay. Those who wouldn't wouldn't. Those who are dead set against it would punch sand.finalfantasy94

Proboly not. The PC people sure didint lie down and take it when MS tried to make them pay for something that was free for so long. Thus it went back to free in a sec. MS has been charging for live since it came out so people who paid are just use to it.

[QUOTE="heretrix"]

[QUOTE="SpinoRaptor24"] Cross game chat invite.AgentA-Mi6

http://www.thesixthaxis.com/2009/03/23/cross-game-chat-confirmed/

Sony is already working on cross game chat, things are bound to get intersting when a firmware update comes with cross game chat for PSN, there are less and less reasons to pay for Xbox Live I think

I think PSN is ok though, I ain't mad it. And I hate that I come off as some one who bashes it. I'm not, I just don't think it is as good or better than XBL. It being free means nothing to me. People often confuse lowering the bar with actual quality when thinking that way.

You guys seem to be missing the point of console gaming. The whole idea is that you have your audience under one unified system. If you start charging them money to play online in that system, that's their only option to play online. Sure, some will say "I won't pay because I'm not a sheep", but if it isn't you it's someone else...Wardemon50

[QUOTE="Wardemon50"]You guys seem to be missing the point of console gaming. The whole idea is that you have your audience under one unified system. If you start charging them money to play online in that system, that's their only option to play online. Sure, some will say "I won't pay because I'm not a sheep", but if it isn't you it's someone else...Brownesque

[QUOTE="heretrix"]

[QUOTE="Brownesque"] Really? Who'd have thought that a proprietary online service on a closed platform would require the games that have to pass a cert process for Microsoft to even allow them to be released to have support for that proprietary online service? That's just insanity, right there. While you're at it, how about you acknowledge the fact that on PC, I can download a mod from moddb to my desktop, run the client, boot up Steam, have it be instantly recognized, boot up the game, then go play on a player-run server. That has nothing to do with my operating system or the hardware manufacturer for any of my PC components. Interesting, huh? Guess it pays off to have an online service that isn't controlled by some maniacal tyrant bent on controlling every detail of their platform and every online interaction that takes place on it. In my opinion Sony should loosen the restrictions even more on developers and allow them to do whatever the hell they want. That way I get to see mod support and player-run dedicated servers with custom content hosting.Brownesque

I'm a reasonable person and I fully understand every argument against XBL. I happen to be aware of all of the issues surrounding all 3 platforms (PC, 360, PS3) because I own all 3. I stand firm on the position that XBL is subscription based because MS can get away with it. That dosen't make them evil, that makes them a successful business. I find it hard to take anyone serious who goes down the road of "businesses are evil because they want to charge me for their product, but I don't want to pay for it." It's simple, don't buy it and walk the hell on.

I would never stand and tell a person stupid because he buys stuff I have no interest in, It's clear to me that person SEES VALUE in that purchase. I wish more people here would understand that simple concept.

because PSN's only advantage over XBL is that it's freefunsohng

Erm what about deticated servers?

[QUOTE="funsohng"]because PSN's only advantage over XBL is that it's freeJesus_on_fire

Erm what about deticated servers?

Sorry, but this is the dumbest suggestion since people elected Hitler .keytheway

This suggestion would only work if they dropped the Ps3's price down to $200 :twisted:

[QUOTE="keytheway"]Sorry, but this is the dumbest suggestion since people elected Hitler .Wardemon50

because PSN's only advantage over XBL is that it's freefunsohng

well if they want to charge for features i really could care less all i need is online play and being abel to download movies/demos etc... X360 owners have no choice they have to pay if they wanna play online thats why they make a big deal and say its better then PSN because they have to pay for it. imagine if online play would be free and MS would only charge for the features how many people do u thing would pay for it?

I would be so pissed if they started doing that