PSN+ so much ownage... xbox live where u at ?

Steam has better sales. And it's free.

SexyJazzCat

were those supposed to be impressive prices? i just got dishonored for 7.50

lostrib

PC sales FTW!

[QUOTE="SexyJazzCat"]

Steam has better sales. And it's free.

Rage010101

[QUOTE="SexyJazzCat"]

Steam has better sales. And it's free.

LordOfPoms

Cant agree with you here buddy.  Well not entirely at least.  Steam has daily sales, midweek sales, weekend sales, devloper special event sales, indie event sales, gaming conference events seasonal sales!  I don't think anyone has as many sales as Steam all year long.

guy is hurting that his service will suck yet again and pale in comparision to the X1.

Mr720fan

Trying to defend Live against what PSN + offers makes look like a dumb sh_t. Oh wait... you're a pathetic fanboy, you don't mind being a dumb sh_t.

I paid on avg. $50 a year for Live... have done so for 8 years now... I guess I'm a dumb sh_t too... the difference is I mind it, which is why I'm going PS4 w/ PSN+ this time around. SCREW M$

[QUOTE="Mr720fan"]

guy is hurting that his service will suck yet again and pale in comparision to the X1.

moistsandwich

Trying to defend Live against what PSN + offers makes look like a dumb sh_t. Oh wait... you're a pathetic fanboy, you don't mind being a dumb sh_t.

I paid on avg. $50 a year for Live... have done so for 8 years now... I guess I'm a dumb sh_t too... the difference is I mind it, which is why I'm going PS4 w/ PSN+ this time around. SCREW M$

Damn those near Steam sale prices.

Steam has better sales. And it's free.

SexyJazzCat

It's free that is true but overall better sales on a week by week basis no. STEAM does have amazing sales on 100's of games when they have the seasonal mega events but that's only a few weeks out of the year. The midweek and weekend deals aren't any good IMO. You do pay for PSN subscription true but you get most if not all of Sony's biggest exclusives for "free" along with a bunch of games/DLC/Themes or whatever they throw in every single week. For consoles it's no contest. But yea, STEAM's Summer/Winter/Black Friday events can't be touched because it's a free service and the deals are sick.

too good

nice timing op

[QUOTE="lazerface216"]

PS+ is one of the best deals out there, i could see it being being even more beneficial if you happen to be on a budget.

FoxbatAlpha

[QUOTE="LordOfPoms"][QUOTE="SexyJazzCat"]

Steam has better sales. And it's free.

Rage010101

Cant agree with you here buddy.  Well not entirely at least.  Steam has daily sales, midweek sales, weekend sales, devloper special event sales, indie event sales, gaming conference events seasonal sales!  I don't think anyone has as many sales as Steam all year long.

True STEAM does have all of those sales (daily, midweek/indie etc) but personally they aren't nearly as good as the PSN+ weekly deals pound for pound. But again, STEAM is actually free for me and PSN isn't. 

were those supposed to be impressive prices? i just got dishonored for 7.50

lostrib

The console kids gotta take what they can get.

[QUOTE="FoxbatAlpha"][QUOTE="lazerface216"]

PS+ is one of the best deals out there, i could see it being being even more beneficial if you happen to be on a budget.

k2theswiss

[QUOTE="SexyJazzCat"]

Steam has better sales. And it's free.

xOMGITSJASONx

It's free that is true but overall better sales on a week by week basis no. STEAM does have amazing sales on 100's of games when they have the seasonal mega events but that's only a few weeks out of the year. The midweek and weekend deals aren't any good IMO. You do pay for PSN subscription true but you get most if not all of Sony's biggest exclusives for "free" along with a bunch of games/DLC/Themes or whatever they throw in every single week. For consoles it's no contest. But yea, STEAM's Summer/Winter/Black Friday events can't be touched because it's a free service and the deals are sick.

here are some games I bought during midweek and weekend sales recently:

Alan Wake

The Witcher 2

Civ 5

Hitman Absolution

Just Cause 2

Batman Arkhum City

Chivelray Midevil Warfare

All for less than 8 bucks some less than 5.  

Most notable game on sale right now is the F.E.A.R. series going for 5 bucks or less for each and $13.74 for the collection.   And it is not even mid week.  Who knows what gets announced on wednesday.

Point is even if you only factor in mid week and weekend sales and forget about summer sales that basically give you games for free steams sales>anything on console.

[QUOTE="lostrib"]

were those supposed to be impressive prices? i just got dishonored for 7.50

the_bi99man

The console kids gotta take what they can get.

Steam has better sales. And it's free.

SexyJazzCat

[QUOTE="the_bi99man"]

[QUOTE="lostrib"]

were those supposed to be impressive prices? i just got dishonored for 7.50

Murderstyle75

The console kids gotta take what they can get.

Funny, I can still play my steam games on multiple PCs, simultaneously, by having the extra PCs in offline mode. Also, I've got several games from GOG, with no DRM whatsoever. 

But you're right. Getting games for rental prices is not as good as being able to pay extra for the privilege of paying slightly less than full retail.

[QUOTE="Murderstyle75"][QUOTE="the_bi99man"]

The console kids gotta take what they can get.

the_bi99man

Funny, I can still play my steam games on multiple PCs, simultaneously, by having the extra PCs in offline mode. Also, I've got several games from GOG, with no DRM whatsoever. 

But you're right. Getting games for rental prices is not as good as being able to pay extra for the privilege of paying slightly less than full retail.

[QUOTE="Murderstyle75"][QUOTE="the_bi99man"]

The console kids gotta take what they can get.

the_bi99man

Funny, I can still play my steam games on multiple PCs, simultaneously, by having the extra PCs in offline mode. Also, I've got several games from GOG, with no DRM whatsoever. 

But you're right. Getting games for rental prices is not as good as being able to pay extra for the privilege of paying slightly less than full retail.

[QUOTE="the_bi99man"]

[QUOTE="Murderstyle75"] You got a "Single User License" for 7.50. But I guess when you are a hermit without a wife or family, that single user license is all you need in life.TheWalkingGhost

Funny, I can still play my steam games on multiple PCs, simultaneously, by having the extra PCs in offline mode. Also, I've got several games from GOG, with no DRM whatsoever. 

But you're right. Getting games for rental prices is not as good as being able to pay extra for the privilege of paying slightly less than full retail.

As long as we're talking about single player games, just sign into steam, with your own account, on one computer, go to offline mode, sign into the same steam account on another computer. Both can play at the same time. Steam doesn't communicate with it's own servers while in offline mode (obviously), so it doesn't know it's signed in on multiple systems. 

[QUOTE="the_bi99man"]

[QUOTE="Murderstyle75"] You got a "Single User License" for 7.50. But I guess when you are a hermit without a wife or family, that single user license is all you need in life.Murderstyle75

Funny, I can still play my steam games on multiple PCs, simultaneously, by having the extra PCs in offline mode. Also, I've got several games from GOG, with no DRM whatsoever. 

But you're right. Getting games for rental prices is not as good as being able to pay extra for the privilege of paying slightly less than full retail.

So, because crappy games also exist, amazing prices on good games don't count anymore? Got it.

Also, so what if you get a licence for every person on your console? It's still one console. If I want to let my friend/girlfriend/brother/sister/whoever play  my  steam games, using  my  computer... They can just turn on my computer and open my steam account. Not sure what kind of benefit you're talking about.

[QUOTE="SexyJazzCat"]

Steam has better sales. And it's free.

xOMGITSJASONx

It's free that is true but overall better sales on a week by week basis no. STEAM does have amazing sales on 100's of games when they have the seasonal mega events but that's only a few weeks out of the year. The midweek and weekend deals aren't any good IMO. You do pay for PSN subscription true but you get most if not all of Sony's biggest exclusives for "free" along with a bunch of games/DLC/Themes or whatever they throw in every single week. For consoles it's no contest. But yea, STEAM's Summer/Winter/Black Friday events can't be touched because it's a free service and the deals are sick.

whether the sales are good or not are completely subjective to those interested in the games on sale.  I don't expect consolites to like pc games so... with that said there is another hole in your argument.  That being that pc gaming isnt limited to just steam.  Steam, Gog, amazon, gamersgate, desura, gamefly, direct2play, getgamesgo, impulsedriven, cdkeyhouse, etc are all competing all year round, which is why pc gaming sees sales every day across many games.  I'm sorry but pc gaming sales just cannot be touched, not even close!

And there you go. Jumping through hoops using the "SAME" Steam Account.Murderstyle75

What hoops? Clicking a button?

And I'm still not sure what you're even arguing about, with the "same account" nonsense. You buy a digital game from XBL/PSN and you get a licence for all of the users "on that device" (your own words). What exactly is the benefit of multiple accounts on the same device?

too good

nice timing op

raging_user

LMFAO, this is what the cows are hypocritically hyping?  GARBAGE!

[QUOTE="Murderstyle75"]And there you go. Jumping through hoops using the "SAME" Steam Account.the_bi99man

What hoops? Clicking a button?

And I'm still not sure what you're even arguing about, with the "same account" nonsense. You buy a digital game from XBL/PSN and you get a licence for all of the users "on that device" (your own words). What exactly is the benefit of multiple accounts on the same device?

[QUOTE="Rage010101"]

[QUOTE="LordOfPoms"] The difference is that PS+ runs these sales all year long, but obviously the games change. Steam does theirs twice a year for a week, but of course there's no buy-in for Steam. Regardless, it's nice to see a console doing sales like this, even if it is gated for PS+, because it shows they're understanding how and why this model works. Steam isn't competing with PS+, so there's no reason to be defensive -- if anything it's going to make Steam sales that much better as more and more developers/publishers realize what a boon it is not just for their game, but for them too.xOMGITSJASONx

Cant agree with you here buddy.  Well not entirely at least.  Steam has daily sales, midweek sales, weekend sales, devloper special event sales, indie event sales, gaming conference events seasonal sales!  I don't think anyone has as many sales as Steam all year long.

True STEAM does have all of those sales (daily, midweek/indie etc) but personally they aren't nearly as good as the PSN+ weekly deals pound for pound. But again, STEAM is actually free for me and PSN isn't. 

ya, except pc gaming isnt just limited to steam sales.  amazon, steam gog, gamersgate, desura, getgamesgo, greenman, gamely, direct2play, impulsedriven, origin, etc are constantly doing pc game sales everyday...pc gaming sales cant be beat.  ps+ is laughable in comparison.

Those deals aren't even worth bragging over.

[QUOTE="Rage010101"]

[QUOTE="LordOfPoms"] The difference is that PS+ runs these sales all year long, but obviously the games change. Steam does theirs twice a year for a week, but of course there's no buy-in for Steam. Regardless, it's nice to see a console doing sales like this, even if it is gated for PS+, because it shows they're understanding how and why this model works. Steam isn't competing with PS+, so there's no reason to be defensive -- if anything it's going to make Steam sales that much better as more and more developers/publishers realize what a boon it is not just for their game, but for them too.xOMGITSJASONx

Cant agree with you here buddy.  Well not entirely at least.  Steam has daily sales, midweek sales, weekend sales, devloper special event sales, indie event sales, gaming conference events seasonal sales!  I don't think anyone has as many sales as Steam all year long.

True STEAM does have all of those sales (daily, midweek/indie etc) but personally they aren't nearly as good as the PSN+ weekly deals pound for pound. But again, STEAM is actually free for me and PSN isn't. 

[QUOTE="xOMGITSJASONx"]

[QUOTE="Rage010101"]

Cant agree with you here buddy.  Well not entirely at least.  Steam has daily sales, midweek sales, weekend sales, devloper special event sales, indie event sales, gaming conference events seasonal sales!  I don't think anyone has as many sales as Steam all year long.

shadowchronicle

True STEAM does have all of those sales (daily, midweek/indie etc) but personally they aren't nearly as good as the PSN+ weekly deals pound for pound. But again, STEAM is actually free for me and PSN isn't. 

It's crazy how there's still people will defend MS after what they just tried to pull on the Xbox One. 

clr84651

[QUOTE="shadowchronicle"][QUOTE="xOMGITSJASONx"]

True STEAM does have all of those sales (daily, midweek/indie etc) but personally they aren't nearly as good as the PSN+ weekly deals pound for pound. But again, STEAM is actually free for me and PSN isn't. 

Murderstyle75

And many got alan wake alan wake collection on pc not long ago for just $1, even less for those who didnt want it on steam...just stop man, pc gaming prices just cant be beat.  It is a fact at this point.

[QUOTE="Murderstyle75"][QUOTE="shadowchronicle"] I'm just going to stop you there when you said they aren't nearly as good as PSN+ weekly deals. What kind of deals are you talking about, ones where you save $2? Deals are pretty much constant on steam and you get two big sales each year along with some decent ones in the middle. Not only that but some games are already cheap without the sales. Rage010101

And many got alan wake alan wake collection on pc not long ago for just $1, even less for those who didnt want it on steam...just stop man, pc gaming prices just cant be beat.  It is a fact at this point.

Playstaton fans = the most insecure gamers alive.  PC gamers arent even that bad.

If you guys all think the Xbox One is going to flop why are you posting about it so much?  You compare your beloved PS4 to it like they're that different.  You should hate the Xbox for proving an online service can be paid for.  You should hate Sony for thinking PSN is that kind of service.  

I'm certain if the Xbox never existed Sony would just now be introducing an online gaming "service".  Sony's Japanese management is big on sticking with "what works" and without the Xbox taking chunks of their market share they would still be in 2003.

As far as sales go, Microsoft doesnt need to discount titles, they actually sell on the 360.  PS3 has not been known for moving large amounts of games compared to the 360.

[QUOTE="Heil68"]Value, only 1 small part of the PSN network, thank you Sony. RR360DD

[QUOTE="the_bi99man"]

[QUOTE="Murderstyle75"]And there you go. Jumping through hoops using the "SAME" Steam Account.Murderstyle75

What hoops? Clicking a button?

And I'm still not sure what you're even arguing about, with the "same account" nonsense. You buy a digital game from XBL/PSN and you get a licence for all of the users "on that device" (your own words). What exactly is the benefit of multiple accounts on the same device?

Oh, okay. Superflous bullshit that doesn't do anything to change or improve the core gaming experience. Got it.

[QUOTE="Murderstyle75"][QUOTE="the_bi99man"]

What hoops? Clicking a button?

And I'm still not sure what you're even arguing about, with the "same account" nonsense. You buy a digital game from XBL/PSN and you get a licence for all of the users "on that device" (your own words). What exactly is the benefit of multiple accounts on the same device?

the_bi99man

Oh, okay. Superflous bullshit that doesn't do anything to change or improve the core gaming experience. Got it.

[QUOTE="the_bi99man"]

[QUOTE="Murderstyle75"] Me and my sons have our own friends lists, stats, achievements, screen names, etc?Murderstyle75

Oh, okay. Superflous bullshit that doesn't do anything to change or improve the core gaming experience. Got it.

And there  you  go, resorting to baseless assumptions about my life, generalizations, and personal insults. That's universally recognized as an admission of defeat in a debate. Good day.

[QUOTE="lazerface216"]

PS+ is one of the best deals out there, i could see it being being even more beneficial if you happen to be on a budget.

cainetao11

anyways, when did i say anything about free? ever in my post? i know exactly what ps+ is, and my point still stands that it is one of the best deals out there.

[QUOTE="lazerface216"]

PS+ is one of the best deals out there, i could see it being being even more beneficial if you happen to be on a budget.

FoxbatAlpha

Psn + best deal on console period.

LOL cow bragging over seasonal few dollar off digital sales

[QUOTE="Murderstyle75"][QUOTE="the_bi99man"]

Oh, okay. Superflous bullshit that doesn't do anything to change or improve the core gaming experience. Got it.

the_bi99man

And there  you  go, resorting to baseless assumptions about my life, generalizations, and personal insults. That's universally recognized as an admission of defeat in a debate. Good day.

Yes, he lost a long time ago, even before he tried.  Guy is trying so hard to say ps+ sales are better than pc's when at this point it is pretty much widely known as a fact that pc game sales cannot be beat, I mean not even close!

[QUOTE="the_bi99man"]

[QUOTE="Murderstyle75"] Its part of the experience. Something lonely hermits could never understand because they don't have family competition or somebody to even mate with to have kids. Its just you, your computer screen and your hand sanitizer. Worship your $3 DRM saturated games that nobody buys all you want to. Just don't act like it does anything extra for the core experience.Rage010101

And there  you  go, resorting to baseless assumptions about my life, generalizations, and personal insults. That's universally recognized as an admission of defeat in a debate. Good day.

Yes, he lost a long time ago, even before he tried.  Guy is trying so hard to say ps+ sales are better than pc's when at this point it is pretty much widely known as a fact that pc game sales cannot be beat, I mean not even close!

[QUOTE="Rage010101"]

[QUOTE="the_bi99man"]

And there  you  go, resorting to baseless assumptions about my life, generalizations, and personal insults. That's universally recognized as an admission of defeat in a debate. Good day.

Murderstyle75

Yes, he lost a long time ago, even before he tried.  Guy is trying so hard to say ps+ sales are better than pc's when at this point it is pretty much widely known as a fact that pc game sales cannot be beat, I mean not even close!

:lol:

[QUOTE="Mr720fan"]

guy is hurting that his servers will suck yet again and pale in comparision to the X1.

MonsieurX

[QUOTE="wasted_wiisdom"][QUOTE="mems_1224"]mems_1224

[QUOTE="Rage010101"]

[QUOTE="the_bi99man"]

And there  you  go, resorting to baseless assumptions about my life, generalizations, and personal insults. That's universally recognized as an admission of defeat in a debate. Good day.

Murderstyle75

Yes, he lost a long time ago, even before he tried.  Guy is trying so hard to say ps+ sales are better than pc's when at this point it is pretty much widely known as a fact that pc game sales cannot be beat, I mean not even close!

I didn't realize that Dishonored, Far Cry 3, BF3, Hitman Absolution, Borderlands 2, and Tomb Raider were clearance rack titles

Steam has better sales. And it's free.

SexyJazzCat