PSP vs 3DS: Metal Gear (56k!)

I keep hearing people say the 3DS has Gamecube graphics, but none of those screens even line up with the PS2.Marka1700

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[QUOTE="bytgames"]its a rehashed port of a 6 year old game....snake eater....its not peace walker...and metal gear has been on nintendo systems for a long time....starting with the NES.

bigblunt537

Fixed

Fixed again :P

http://www.konami.jp/kojima_pro/e3_2010/mgs3d/en/

Here are some more screenshots for Metal Gear Solid 3D: Snake Eater.

More screenshots for comparison

The screenshot of Snake with the Boss looks really good

Once again how is it fair to compare a handheld that will realease in 2011 to one that released in 2004?

gameplay vs cutscene, i love biased comparisons.

gameplay vs cutscene, i love biased comparisons.

blitzcloud

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gameplay vs cutscene, i love biased comparisons.

enterawesome

[QUOTE="blitzcloud"]

gameplay vs cutscene, i love biased comparisons.

enterawesome

Sorry to break it to you but the models used for cutscenes and ingame parts for not very powerful consoles (even for the powerful ones) are radically different. Check sora talking on a cutscene vs talking ingame. The face is completely modelled, even the mouth inside is and has face animation. The ingame version is 2 different jpgs interpolating. So i'd say that rendering only what they want they can obviously pull different results. But calculating the fact that in the psp you need to have something beyond what the camera shows you as you are playing, the level of detail of the main character is lowered.

Got me now?

Lol who cares? Why would anyone ever choose to play the 3DS version when we all already played it 6 years ago? Give me Peace Walker thank you.

[QUOTE="enterawesome"][QUOTE="blitzcloud"]

gameplay vs cutscene, i love biased comparisons.

blitzcloud

Sorry to break it to you but the models used for cutscenes and ingame parts for not very powerful consoles (even for the powerful ones) are radically different. Check sora talking on a cutscene vs talking ingame. The face is completely modelled, even the mouth inside is and has face animation. The ingame version is 2 different jpgs interpolating. So i'd say that rendering only what they want they can obviously pull different results. But calculating the fact that in the psp you need to have something beyond what the camera shows you as you are playing, the level of detail of the main character is lowered.

Got me now?

[QUOTE="blitzcloud"]

gameplay vs cutscene, i love biased comparisons.

enterawesome

[QUOTE="enterawesome"][QUOTE="blitzcloud"]

gameplay vs cutscene, i love biased comparisons.

SakusEnvoy

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[QUOTE="enterawesome"]Sorry to break it to you, but all the cutscenes in MGS3 are in-engine, and if the pics for Peace Walker were cutscenes, they'd look like a comic book.windsquid9000

[QUOTE="windsquid9000"][QUOTE="SakusEnvoy"] Speaking of cutscenes, how much data can these 3DS cartridges hold? MGS3 was a full-blown DVD title, definitely larger than a UMD could store.

SaltyMeatballs

UMD is 1.8 and after formatting, the 3DS' card would probably be the same.

windsquid9000

I don't recall Sony ever saying that was after formatting.

FWIW also it's 2GB at launch. As with the DS they will probably release bigger cards later on.

[QUOTE="SakusEnvoy"]

[QUOTE="enterawesome"]Sorry to break it to you, but all the cutscenes in MGS3 are in-engine, and if the pics for Peace Walker were cutscenes, they'd look like a comic book.windsquid9000

I feel like it's easier to play a shooter like this with an analog nub than with a touch screen. 3DS looks great - and the 3-D display will probably be awesome, but the PSP is gonna have better controls IMO.

BTW, psp fps/shooter controls actually work well if you use the right control scheme and get used to it (Move/strafe with face buttons, aim with analog).

[QUOTE="windsquid9000"][QUOTE="SakusEnvoy"] Speaking of cutscenes, how much data can these 3DS cartridges hold? MGS3 was a full-blown DVD title, definitely larger than a UMD could store.

osan0

It's unlikely that the new 3DS will use 256MB for its games.

Edit: Nintendo site says 2GB with a capital B.
Nintendo 3DS Game Card:
2 GB Max. at launch.

I feel like it's easier to play a shooter like this with an analog nub than with a touch screen. 3DS looks great - and the 3-D display will probably be awesome, but the PSP is gonna have better controls IMO.

BTW, psp fps/shooter controls actually work well if you use the right control scheme and get used to it (Move/strafe with face buttons, aim with analog).

The 3DS has an analog nub very similar to the PSP. As well as a touch screen.

PS. For some reason GameSpot won't let me quote you with your username. :?

[sigh] It's a bit frustrating that the widescreen on the 3DS still only has half the vertical resolution of standard-definition console games. Even with enhanced lighting and effects, I find it hard to imagine the 3DS version ever had the potential to be graphically superior to the 2D-PS2 one. 400x240 is also an awfully strange resolution to watch Hollywood movies at.

(Point being, if you could play the original on a 3.5" screen, the PS2 version would like nicer. The 3DS one may look nicer than playing your PS2 on a huge HDTV, though.)

I really doubt the 3ds version would be the same MGS3 game 1:1 as the ps2 version.

So now it's not only more games but better graphics. Could this be the last steps of the PSP? it hasn't been doing so well lately even before 3DS was announced. themyth01

I really doubt the 3ds version would be the same MGS3 game 1:1 as the ps2 version.

PSdual_wielder

Does the 3ds have significantly better graphics than the other DS models or something? THis new Metal Geat game and Kingdom Hearts 3DS look near PSP quality.vashkey

Does the 3ds have significantly better graphics than the other DS models or something? THis new Metal Geat game and Kingdom Hearts 3DS look near PSP quality.vashkey

The graphics on the 3DS could easily pass off as a current gen console graphics game on the Wii, whereas the PSP looks like something you'd get on the PS2.

[QUOTE="vashkey"]Does the 3ds have significantly better graphics than the other DS models or something? THis new Metal Geat game and Kingdom Hearts 3DS look near PSP quality.ithilgore2006

[QUOTE="ithilgore2006"][QUOTE="vashkey"]Does the 3ds have significantly better graphics than the other DS models or something? THis new Metal Geat game and Kingdom Hearts 3DS look near PSP quality.vashkey

To be fair the 3DS screen is 3,53 inches (only 2.5 inches less than PSP GO) and it is 800x240 while PSP is 480x272 also, the 3DS screen will look even better in 2d mode since the image won't be doubleddarth-pyschosis

The 3DS does look dam nice.

Wow, did not know it was a remake to my favorite MGS!

[QUOTE="enterawesome"][QUOTE="blitzcloud"]

gameplay vs cutscene, i love biased comparisons.

Ragnarok1051

They do not care, they are just happy to get 3D games! I mean the majority of DS games were 2D after all

[QUOTE="Ragnarok1051"][QUOTE="enterawesome"]Sorry to break it to you, but all the cutscenes in MGS3 are in-engine, and if the pics for Peace Walker were cutscenes, they'd look like a comic book.Banjo_Kongfooie

They do not care, they are just happy to get 3D games! I mean the majority of DS games were 2D after all

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[QUOTE="Ragnarok1051"] You do realize how old the PSP is right?ithilgore2006

They do not care, they are just happy to get 3D games! I mean the majority of DS games were 2D after all

Um it is true and the 3D for the Ds was bad

They do not care, they are just happy to get 3D games! I mean the majority of DS games were 2D after all

Banjo_Kongfooie

Are you trying to imply that there's something wrong with 2D games?

[QUOTE="darth-pyschosis"]To be fair the 3DS screen is 3,53 inches (only 2.5 inches less than PSP GO) and it is 800x240 while PSP is 480x272 also, the 3DS screen will look even better in 2d mode since the image won't be doubledSakusEnvoy

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They do not care, they are just happy to get 3D games! I mean the majority of DS games were 2D after all

ThePlothole

Are you trying to imply that there's something wrong with 2D games?

Yes I was they lack the 3rd dimmension

[QUOTE="ThePlothole"][QUOTE="Banjo_Kongfooie"]

They do not care, they are just happy to get 3D games! I mean the majority of DS games were 2D after all

Banjo_Kongfooie

Are you trying to imply that there's something wrong with 2D games?

Yes I was they lack the 3rd dimmension

You should read his thread on the 3DS. It's really quite fascinating.