PSP vs 3DS: Metal Gear (56k!)

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#101 ThePlothole
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Also, it looks like even in 2D mode it can only display 400x240 resolution. The reason why I say this is because, of course, the 3D effect can be turned on and off - but if a game is designed around the 3D effect, for 400x240 resolution, it would like horrendously ugly at 800x240 due to stretching. Also, the proportions of the 3DS aren't correct for 800x240 resolution. The width of the screen looks like it is about 1.6-1.7 times the size of the height; which matches up exactly with 400x240 resolution. So I'd guess the 3DS is permanently locked in to 400x240.

SakusEnvoy

That assumes the developers limit themselves to "square" pixels. In theory a pixel can be any number of shapes. (Well, depending also on how the screen is designed)

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#102 currentlemon
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I agree with Ragnarok. We can compare both handhelds graphic wise when one was released 6 years ago.

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#103 PtothaWHAT
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I think they both look good, but is it fair to compare graphics from a handheld what 6 years ago? To a brand new next gen one?

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#104 Ringx55
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Hmmm, PSP released 2004. 3DS released 2011.... Who would of thought.
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#105 blaznwiipspman1
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I think nintendo got scared of handheld competition. They aren't afraid of the psp but they ARE afraid of the apple IPAD. I think they need to make a DS with some type of OS, maybe linux or a stripped down version of windows. They aren't waiting for apple to put up a fight, they're gonna take a fight to them.

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#106 p4s2p0
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I'm an adult gamer I've never considered Nintendo any competition for sony. I still liked the psp's screen shots more, the 3ds looked really saturated(or sharp as others call it). That said there are tons of kids in Nintendo's pockets so they should do fine.
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#107 bowser3
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Heres a better comparison.

PSP

3DS

Even thoug the 3ds game is barely in its infant stage it already look very impressive and the 3d effects are going to make it look even better.

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#108 wasted_wisdom
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[QUOTE="Ragnarok1051"]

Why are people comparing the PSP to the 3DS? Don't they realize how old the PSP is?

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took the words right out of my mouth...3DS hasnt even been released yet..it BETTER have better grfx than the 5 yr old psp

Right if something that came out years ago is comparable to something that just came out plus with a debatable outcome then there's seriously something wrong somewhere.
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#109 Banjo_Kongfooie
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Hmmm, PSP released 2004. 3DS released 2011.... Who would of thought.Ringx55

And remember graphics do not matter at all! ( when it is your console that is lacking:P )

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#110 AndyAlfredo
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[QUOTE="Ringx55"]Hmmm, PSP released 2004. 3DS released 2011.... Who would of thought.Banjo_Kongfooie

And remember graphics do not matter at all! ( when it is your console that is lacking:P )

No, graphics don't matter when comparing handhelds from different generations.

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#111 TalesofRaGnArOk
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Sure the graphics can look better

But I'd rather have a new game than a remake/port

This is coming from a psp/ds owner

I don't care about which looks better

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#112 Homesrfan
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I'm an adult gamer I've never considered Nintendo any competition for sony. p4s2p0
I'm sure Sony feels 100% opposite.
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#113 King_Dodongo
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I would love to see most of the 3ds games in action!
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#114 aaronmullan
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Other than the obvious choice of horrible PSP screens... 3DS looks better.
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#115 Waffle_Fish
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The 3DS is better, but its also a next gen handheld. Im going to guess that the PSP2 or whatever sony releases to compete with the 3DS will be better graphically
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#116 Dibdibdobdobo
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The 3DS is better, but its also a next gen handheld. Im going to guess that the PSP2 or whatever sony releases to compete with the 3DS will be better graphicallyWaffle_Fish
This is why Nintendo are hitting the market with 3DS now rather than waiting for the PSP2. Kill the market competiton before its even out.
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#117 deactivated-66e3137ab3ad5
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Wow, it looks a hundred times better than the Metal Gear on the PSP!
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#118 tomarlyn
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[QUOTE="Waffle_Fish"]The 3DS is better, but its also a next gen handheld. Im going to guess that the PSP2 or whatever sony releases to compete with the 3DS will be better graphicallyDibdibdobdobo
This is why Nintendo are hitting the market with 3DS now rather than waiting for the PSP2. Kill the market competiton before its even out.

Didn't work for the 360 (sales wise).
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#119 Iantheone
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Im guessing that the wider screen ones are the PSP. There is a bit of a difference between the two. The bottom ones being clearer and less blocky for one. It will be interesting to see what the 3DS will be able of handling later on
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#120 deactivated-66e3137ab3ad5
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[QUOTE="Dibdibdobdobo"][QUOTE="Waffle_Fish"]The 3DS is better, but its also a next gen handheld. Im going to guess that the PSP2 or whatever sony releases to compete with the 3DS will be better graphicallytomarlyn
This is why Nintendo are hitting the market with 3DS now rather than waiting for the PSP2. Kill the market competiton before its even out.

Didn't work for the 360 (sales wise).

It did, the Xbox 360 is 5 million ahead in sales. :)
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#121 tomarlyn
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[QUOTE="tomarlyn"][QUOTE="Dibdibdobdobo"] This is why Nintendo are hitting the market with 3DS now rather than waiting for the PSP2. Kill the market competiton before its even out.khoofia_pika
Didn't work for the 360 (sales wise).

It did, the Xbox 360 is 5 million ahead in sales. :)

OMGZORZ hold the front page!! :P
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#122 deactivated-66e3137ab3ad5
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[QUOTE="khoofia_pika"][QUOTE="tomarlyn"] Didn't work for the 360 (sales wise).tomarlyn
It did, the Xbox 360 is 5 million ahead in sales. :)

OMGZORZ hold the front page!! :P

..... eh? :? :P
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#123 sergemyster8
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[QUOTE="tomarlyn"][QUOTE="khoofia_pika"] It did, the Xbox 360 is 5 million ahead in sales. :)khoofia_pika
OMGZORZ hold the front page!! :P

..... eh? :? :P

I'm pretty sure he meant that the wii came out after the 360 and is ahead.

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#124 tomarlyn
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[QUOTE="khoofia_pika"][QUOTE="tomarlyn"] OMGZORZ hold the front page!! :Psergemyster8

..... eh? :? :P

I'm pretty sure he meant that the wii came out after the 360 and is ahead.

And that 5 million units ahead of PS3 is negligible.
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#125 ThePlothole
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[QUOTE="Dibdibdobdobo"][QUOTE="Waffle_Fish"]The 3DS is better, but its also a next gen handheld. Im going to guess that the PSP2 or whatever sony releases to compete with the 3DS will be better graphicallytomarlyn
This is why Nintendo are hitting the market with 3DS now rather than waiting for the PSP2. Kill the market competiton before its even out.

Didn't work for the 360 (sales wise).

While it didn't put 360 on top, I think launching first did help Microsoft capture a considerable amount of its market share and recognition. It might have sold even better if not for RROD and all the negative publicity it generated.

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#126 lbjkurono23
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Looking really good. I just wish it would have a bigger screen.
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#127 tomarlyn
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[QUOTE="tomarlyn"][QUOTE="Dibdibdobdobo"] This is why Nintendo are hitting the market with 3DS now rather than waiting for the PSP2. Kill the market competiton before its even out.ThePlothole
Didn't work for the 360 (sales wise).

While it didn't put 360 on top, I think launching first did help Microsoft capture a considerable amount of its market share and recognition. It might have sold even better if not for RROD and all the negative publicity it generated.

If the 360 had launched alongside the PS3 it would still have been a much cheaper option, given the extra time some of its creases could have been ironed out too.
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#128 FILIPINOMAZTER
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mgs on 3ds look amazing but theres no doubt tha peace walker looks amazing as well since its the best looking psp game right now coz i think it actually pushed the system to its limits but whatever i dont care i wana see some actual gameplay of the games announce for the 3ds
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#129 Epak_
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LINK

"The high level models are about the same quality as the stuff we made on the PlayStation 3," Kojima said, "although it's tough to see this. If we'd had a bit more time, we could have made something better."

:shock:

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#130 ThePlothole
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If the 360 had launched alongside the PS3 it would still have been a much cheaper option, given the extra time some of its creases could have been ironed out too.tomarlyn

Even being cheaper than the PS3, Microsoft would have still risked having their system overshadowed by Sony and Nintendo. It's not like the 360 was a successor to the best selling console of all time or had the hype off a new control method.

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#131 jasonharris48
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Why are people comparing the PSP to the 3DS? Don't they realize how old the PSP is?

Ragnarok1051

Just leave it alone man lol.

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#132 gangstaa9
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The 3DS screens are way better and they shiuld be considering the 5 year difference.

(off topic) does anyone know weather kingdom hearts is remake or a new game?

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#133 jasonharris48
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The 3DS screens are way better and they shiuld be considering the 5 year difference.

(off topic) does anyone know weather kingdom hearts is remake or a new game?

gangstaa9

Nomura said it was a new title in an interview released last week. I'll find the interview for you.

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#134 ZIVX
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The 3DS screens are way better and they shiuld be considering the 5 year difference.

(off topic) does anyone know weather kingdom hearts is remake or a new game?

gangstaa9

It's a new game Info

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#135 jasonharris48
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[QUOTE="gangstaa9"]

The 3DS screens are way better and they shiuld be considering the 5 year difference.

(off topic) does anyone know weather kingdom hearts is remake or a new game?

ZIVX

It's a new game Info

You beat me to it but thanks you just saved me some time.

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#136 Mario1331
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3ds image is sharper

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#137 aroxx_ab
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Only negative i have about 3DS is touch screen, i dont like that. Thats why i like PSP more.

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#138 shabab12
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  hey guys, the PS3 BLOWS the PS2 out of the water. hahaha ps2 suxorz
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#139 AnaleFaust
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Omg look at the tank in the first screen. :lol:
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#140 Rahnyc4
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Only negative i have about 3DS is touch screen, i dont like that. Thats why i like PSP more.

aroxx_ab

you game on the pc, and your complaining about touch screen? thats like complaining about mouse aiming vs analog stick aiming.


seriously, though. with some work this game will exceed the looks of the ps2 version. it already looks better. imagine what the final product would look like. theres no question that the 3ds will be as or more powerful than the ps2. im guessing in its mid life span we may see games beyond both gamecube and xbox graphics.

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#141 fabz_95
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The shots are similar. The character models are better in the 3DS version whereas the PSP versions have better looking environments. Since the 3DS version is early in development I'm guessing the 3DS version will look better in the end.
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#142 aroxx_ab
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[QUOTE="aroxx_ab"]

Only negative i have about 3DS is touch screen, i dont like that. Thats why i like PSP more.

Rahnyc4

you game on the pc, and your complaining about touch screen? thats like complaining about mouse aiming vs analog stick aiming.


serously, though. with some work this game will exceed the looks of the ps2 version. it already looks better. imagine what the final product would look like. theres no question that the 3ds will be as or more powerful than the ps2. im guessing in its mid life span we may see games beyond both gamecube and xbox graphics.

I dont really get what you trying to say but i had DS and Metroid and after that i realised i dont like touch screen gaming.

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#143 OmegaAK47
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3DS + Metal Gear = :D for alot of peolpe! If that is waht it looks like then count me in for sure.

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#144 firefluff3
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Shouldnt we really compare 3ds lauch titles to psp ones?

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#145 kontejner44
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omfg!!.. Metal Gear Solid 3 port for the 3DS YESSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!! :D

It looks even better than the ps2 version!

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woot? I've played 2 and 4, missed out on 3. This is fantastic if true

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#146 Bread_or_Decide
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Peacewalker...brand new game in Solid Snake mythos. Snake Eater in 3D....same old game in 3D. Shrug.
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#147 Bread_or_Decide
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Remember when graphics didn't matter to Nintendo fans? Oh yes, those were the days. Now that they have a comparable hand held suddenly we hear things like, "Oh it'll loook better than PS2." Graphics didn't impress them on the PSP. In fact, it was just all ports of PS2 games, with zero innovative gameplay. Where's the innovative gameplay in this port?
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#148 BrunoBRS
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the one with the huge "3DS" attached to it is the 3DS game. and of course it looks better. what were you expecting, that it would look worse than past gen?
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#149 King_Dodongo
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Peacewalker...brand new game in Solid Snake mythos. Snake Eater in 3D....same old game in 3D. Shrug. Bread_or_Decide
Dude, I'm sure the 3DS will get more than just one game. The Psp had 4. So I can live with a good remake and like 2 original ones.
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#150 kontejner44
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Remember when graphics didn't matter to Nintendo fans? Oh yes, those were the days. Now that they have a comparable hand held suddenly we hear things like, "Oh it'll loook better than PS2." Graphics didn't impress them on the PSP. In fact, it was just all ports of PS2 games, with zero innovative gameplay. Where's the innovative gameplay in this port? Bread_or_Decide

3DS is the main hub for all PSWii60 gamers, handheld is the only space we share atm, it's nost just Nintendo fans.

And btw "graphics don't matter" argument originates from "Gameplay is more important than graphics". It's not that graphics "don't matter", it's just that gameplay matters more.

They are adding motion sensors and a gyroscope too on 3DS, there is a small update in the handheld gameplay department too. Then you have the dual analogue setup (analogue stick + touch screen). So yeah there are upgrades gameplay wise, but the whole 3D thing is overshadowing everything.